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John H[_2_] October 27th 11 12:27 AM

Real Liberalism
 
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:34:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message ...

On 10/26/11 7:12 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Like "hope and change" or "yes we can" Don't knock stupid slogans. They
worked for one clown.


Yeah, they did. "Mission Accomplished".

--------------------------------------------------

This myth keeps being perpetuated by the media and those who like to
bash Bush as if he was declaring the end of the war in Iraq.

The "Mission Accomplished" banner displayed on the USS Abraham Lincoln
had nothing to do with Iraq, despite what the media
and Bush haters would like to believe.

US Naval ships often deploy on long term "cruises" that typically last
for 4-6 months or more away from their home port.
Each of these cruises have a specific "mission". The mission is unique
to the ship or the task force that it is part of.

Navy tradition includes a celebration of sorts by the ship (or task
force) to acknowledge that their specific, unique "Mission" has come to
an end and the ship(s) are returning to their home ports and families.
On smaller ships tradition often includes mounting a broom
upside down somewhere on the mast to indicate a "clean sweep" in the
performance of the unique cruise or mission.

When Bush visited the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier had just
been relieved by another carrier and was on it's way
back to it's home port. The "Mission Accomplished" banner on the ship
was in celebration of the end of it's specific cruise
and not the end of the Iraq war.

Eisboch (10 year Navy veteran)



Some years ago, I read somewhere that it was the Navy's idea to put the
sign up because Bush was coming aboard and that the White House got the
sign made. The entire event was a Bush media circus, including the part
when he landed on the carrier in a jet with a Navy pilot.

------------------------------------------------

It's a big deal ... even on a nuke aircraft carrier .... to have the
Commander in Chief come aboard.
I was on a couple of small ships and we were once visited by the Secretary
of the Navy.
I thought the Captain was going to **** a brick getting the ship prepared
for his visit.
I am sure the CO of the Lincoln did everything he could to make Bush's visit
memorable.

But again, I repeat ... flying the broom or celebrating the successful
completion of a ship's
long term cruise and mission is traditional. In this case it was not
intended to celebrate a
victory in Iraq. The media reports and interpretations over the years have
made it what
many now view it as.

Eisboch
Anyway, twist and turn


'Liberal' history and the truth often have little in common.

jps October 27th 11 12:29 AM

Real Liberalism
 
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:34:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message ...

On 10/26/11 7:12 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Like "hope and change" or "yes we can" Don't knock stupid slogans. They
worked for one clown.


Yeah, they did. "Mission Accomplished".

--------------------------------------------------

This myth keeps being perpetuated by the media and those who like to
bash Bush as if he was declaring the end of the war in Iraq.

The "Mission Accomplished" banner displayed on the USS Abraham Lincoln
had nothing to do with Iraq, despite what the media
and Bush haters would like to believe.

US Naval ships often deploy on long term "cruises" that typically last
for 4-6 months or more away from their home port.
Each of these cruises have a specific "mission". The mission is unique
to the ship or the task force that it is part of.

Navy tradition includes a celebration of sorts by the ship (or task
force) to acknowledge that their specific, unique "Mission" has come to
an end and the ship(s) are returning to their home ports and families.
On smaller ships tradition often includes mounting a broom
upside down somewhere on the mast to indicate a "clean sweep" in the
performance of the unique cruise or mission.

When Bush visited the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier had just
been relieved by another carrier and was on it's way
back to it's home port. The "Mission Accomplished" banner on the ship
was in celebration of the end of it's specific cruise
and not the end of the Iraq war.

Eisboch (10 year Navy veteran)



Some years ago, I read somewhere that it was the Navy's idea to put the
sign up because Bush was coming aboard and that the White House got the
sign made. The entire event was a Bush media circus, including the part
when he landed on the carrier in a jet with a Navy pilot.

------------------------------------------------

It's a big deal ... even on a nuke aircraft carrier .... to have the
Commander in Chief come aboard.
I was on a couple of small ships and we were once visited by the Secretary
of the Navy.
I thought the Captain was going to **** a brick getting the ship prepared
for his visit.
I am sure the CO of the Lincoln did everything he could to make Bush's visit
memorable.

But again, I repeat ... flying the broom or celebrating the successful
completion of a ship's
long term cruise and mission is traditional. In this case it was not
intended to celebrate a
victory in Iraq. The media reports and interpretations over the years have
made it what
many now view it as.

Eisboch
Anyway, twist and turn


Let's let the man speak for himself...

"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq,
the United States and our allies have prevailed." —speaking underneath
a "Mission Accomplished" banner aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1,
2003

Were the rest of combat operations in Iraq non-major? That's not my
impression nor do I believe that most soldiers that did 3 or 4 tours
over there would subscribe to that notion.

Was the "surge" a minor operation? Why did we need the surge since
the US and allies had prevailed?

We're arguing over a small point. What comes to light is how stupid
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Pearl and the rest of the neocons
were about the eventual depth of their misadventure.

No one arguing against Bush needs to twist, he's done it all for us.

Canuck57[_9_] October 27th 11 12:39 AM

Real Liberalism
 
On 26/10/2011 5:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:34:45 -0400, wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message ...

On 10/26/11 7:12 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Like "hope and change" or "yes we can" Don't knock stupid slogans. They
worked for one clown.

Yeah, they did. "Mission Accomplished".

--------------------------------------------------

This myth keeps being perpetuated by the media and those who like to
bash Bush as if he was declaring the end of the war in Iraq.

The "Mission Accomplished" banner displayed on the USS Abraham Lincoln
had nothing to do with Iraq, despite what the media
and Bush haters would like to believe.

US Naval ships often deploy on long term "cruises" that typically last
for 4-6 months or more away from their home port.
Each of these cruises have a specific "mission". The mission is unique
to the ship or the task force that it is part of.

Navy tradition includes a celebration of sorts by the ship (or task
force) to acknowledge that their specific, unique "Mission" has come to
an end and the ship(s) are returning to their home ports and families.
On smaller ships tradition often includes mounting a broom
upside down somewhere on the mast to indicate a "clean sweep" in the
performance of the unique cruise or mission.

When Bush visited the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier had just
been relieved by another carrier and was on it's way
back to it's home port. The "Mission Accomplished" banner on the ship
was in celebration of the end of it's specific cruise
and not the end of the Iraq war.

Eisboch (10 year Navy veteran)



Some years ago, I read somewhere that it was the Navy's idea to put the
sign up because Bush was coming aboard and that the White House got the
sign made. The entire event was a Bush media circus, including the part
when he landed on the carrier in a jet with a Navy pilot.

------------------------------------------------

It's a big deal ... even on a nuke aircraft carrier .... to have the
Commander in Chief come aboard.
I was on a couple of small ships and we were once visited by the Secretary
of the Navy.
I thought the Captain was going to **** a brick getting the ship prepared
for his visit.
I am sure the CO of the Lincoln did everything he could to make Bush's visit
memorable.

But again, I repeat ... flying the broom or celebrating the successful
completion of a ship's
long term cruise and mission is traditional. In this case it was not
intended to celebrate a
victory in Iraq. The media reports and interpretations over the years have
made it what
many now view it as.

Eisboch
Anyway, twist and turn


'Liberal' history and the truth often have little in common.


They consider short memories an asset, not a liability.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

X ` Man October 27th 11 01:13 AM

Real Liberalism
 
On 10/26/11 7:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:34:45 -0400, wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message ...

On 10/26/11 7:12 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Like "hope and change" or "yes we can" Don't knock stupid slogans. They
worked for one clown.

Yeah, they did. "Mission Accomplished".

--------------------------------------------------

This myth keeps being perpetuated by the media and those who like to
bash Bush as if he was declaring the end of the war in Iraq.

The "Mission Accomplished" banner displayed on the USS Abraham Lincoln
had nothing to do with Iraq, despite what the media
and Bush haters would like to believe.

US Naval ships often deploy on long term "cruises" that typically last
for 4-6 months or more away from their home port.
Each of these cruises have a specific "mission". The mission is unique
to the ship or the task force that it is part of.

Navy tradition includes a celebration of sorts by the ship (or task
force) to acknowledge that their specific, unique "Mission" has come to
an end and the ship(s) are returning to their home ports and families.
On smaller ships tradition often includes mounting a broom
upside down somewhere on the mast to indicate a "clean sweep" in the
performance of the unique cruise or mission.

When Bush visited the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier had just
been relieved by another carrier and was on it's way
back to it's home port. The "Mission Accomplished" banner on the ship
was in celebration of the end of it's specific cruise
and not the end of the Iraq war.

Eisboch (10 year Navy veteran)



Some years ago, I read somewhere that it was the Navy's idea to put the
sign up because Bush was coming aboard and that the White House got the
sign made. The entire event was a Bush media circus, including the part
when he landed on the carrier in a jet with a Navy pilot.

------------------------------------------------

It's a big deal ... even on a nuke aircraft carrier .... to have the
Commander in Chief come aboard.
I was on a couple of small ships and we were once visited by the Secretary
of the Navy.
I thought the Captain was going to **** a brick getting the ship prepared
for his visit.
I am sure the CO of the Lincoln did everything he could to make Bush's visit
memorable.

But again, I repeat ... flying the broom or celebrating the successful
completion of a ship's
long term cruise and mission is traditional. In this case it was not
intended to celebrate a
victory in Iraq. The media reports and interpretations over the years have
made it what
many now view it as.

Eisboch
Anyway, twist and turn


'Liberal' history and the truth often have little in common.



Herring channels Canuckles and Ingertool.

jps October 27th 11 01:45 AM

Real Liberalism
 
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:13:57 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 10/26/11 7:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:34:45 -0400, wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message ...

On 10/26/11 7:12 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Like "hope and change" or "yes we can" Don't knock stupid slogans. They
worked for one clown.

Yeah, they did. "Mission Accomplished".

--------------------------------------------------

This myth keeps being perpetuated by the media and those who like to
bash Bush as if he was declaring the end of the war in Iraq.

The "Mission Accomplished" banner displayed on the USS Abraham Lincoln
had nothing to do with Iraq, despite what the media
and Bush haters would like to believe.

US Naval ships often deploy on long term "cruises" that typically last
for 4-6 months or more away from their home port.
Each of these cruises have a specific "mission". The mission is unique
to the ship or the task force that it is part of.

Navy tradition includes a celebration of sorts by the ship (or task
force) to acknowledge that their specific, unique "Mission" has come to
an end and the ship(s) are returning to their home ports and families.
On smaller ships tradition often includes mounting a broom
upside down somewhere on the mast to indicate a "clean sweep" in the
performance of the unique cruise or mission.

When Bush visited the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier had just
been relieved by another carrier and was on it's way
back to it's home port. The "Mission Accomplished" banner on the ship
was in celebration of the end of it's specific cruise
and not the end of the Iraq war.

Eisboch (10 year Navy veteran)


Some years ago, I read somewhere that it was the Navy's idea to put the
sign up because Bush was coming aboard and that the White House got the
sign made. The entire event was a Bush media circus, including the part
when he landed on the carrier in a jet with a Navy pilot.

------------------------------------------------

It's a big deal ... even on a nuke aircraft carrier .... to have the
Commander in Chief come aboard.
I was on a couple of small ships and we were once visited by the Secretary
of the Navy.
I thought the Captain was going to **** a brick getting the ship prepared
for his visit.
I am sure the CO of the Lincoln did everything he could to make Bush's visit
memorable.

But again, I repeat ... flying the broom or celebrating the successful
completion of a ship's
long term cruise and mission is traditional. In this case it was not
intended to celebrate a
victory in Iraq. The media reports and interpretations over the years have
made it what
many now view it as.

Eisboch
Anyway, twist and turn


'Liberal' history and the truth often have little in common.



Herring channels Canuckles and Ingertool.


I have proof that Herring and Canook are sockpuppets of Snotty.

X ` Man[_3_] October 27th 11 01:51 AM

Real Liberalism
 
On 10/26/11 8:45 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:13:57 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/26/11 7:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:34:45 -0400, wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message ...

On 10/26/11 7:12 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Like "hope and change" or "yes we can" Don't knock stupid slogans. They
worked for one clown.

Yeah, they did. "Mission Accomplished".

--------------------------------------------------

This myth keeps being perpetuated by the media and those who like to
bash Bush as if he was declaring the end of the war in Iraq.

The "Mission Accomplished" banner displayed on the USS Abraham Lincoln
had nothing to do with Iraq, despite what the media
and Bush haters would like to believe.

US Naval ships often deploy on long term "cruises" that typically last
for 4-6 months or more away from their home port.
Each of these cruises have a specific "mission". The mission is unique
to the ship or the task force that it is part of.

Navy tradition includes a celebration of sorts by the ship (or task
force) to acknowledge that their specific, unique "Mission" has come to
an end and the ship(s) are returning to their home ports and families.
On smaller ships tradition often includes mounting a broom
upside down somewhere on the mast to indicate a "clean sweep" in the
performance of the unique cruise or mission.

When Bush visited the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier had just
been relieved by another carrier and was on it's way
back to it's home port. The "Mission Accomplished" banner on the ship
was in celebration of the end of it's specific cruise
and not the end of the Iraq war.

Eisboch (10 year Navy veteran)


Some years ago, I read somewhere that it was the Navy's idea to put the
sign up because Bush was coming aboard and that the White House got the
sign made. The entire event was a Bush media circus, including the part
when he landed on the carrier in a jet with a Navy pilot.

------------------------------------------------

It's a big deal ... even on a nuke aircraft carrier .... to have the
Commander in Chief come aboard.
I was on a couple of small ships and we were once visited by the Secretary
of the Navy.
I thought the Captain was going to **** a brick getting the ship prepared
for his visit.
I am sure the CO of the Lincoln did everything he could to make Bush's visit
memorable.

But again, I repeat ... flying the broom or celebrating the successful
completion of a ship's
long term cruise and mission is traditional. In this case it was not
intended to celebrate a
victory in Iraq. The media reports and interpretations over the years have
made it what
many now view it as.

Eisboch
Anyway, twist and turn

'Liberal' history and the truth often have little in common.



Herring channels Canuckles and Ingertool.


I have proof that Herring and Canook are sockpuppets of Snotty.



:)

Canuck57[_9_] October 27th 11 02:28 AM

Real Liberalism
 
On 26/10/2011 6:45 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:13:57 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/26/11 7:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:34:45 -0400, wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message ...

On 10/26/11 7:12 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Like "hope and change" or "yes we can" Don't knock stupid slogans. They
worked for one clown.

Yeah, they did. "Mission Accomplished".

--------------------------------------------------

This myth keeps being perpetuated by the media and those who like to
bash Bush as if he was declaring the end of the war in Iraq.

The "Mission Accomplished" banner displayed on the USS Abraham Lincoln
had nothing to do with Iraq, despite what the media
and Bush haters would like to believe.

US Naval ships often deploy on long term "cruises" that typically last
for 4-6 months or more away from their home port.
Each of these cruises have a specific "mission". The mission is unique
to the ship or the task force that it is part of.

Navy tradition includes a celebration of sorts by the ship (or task
force) to acknowledge that their specific, unique "Mission" has come to
an end and the ship(s) are returning to their home ports and families.
On smaller ships tradition often includes mounting a broom
upside down somewhere on the mast to indicate a "clean sweep" in the
performance of the unique cruise or mission.

When Bush visited the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier had just
been relieved by another carrier and was on it's way
back to it's home port. The "Mission Accomplished" banner on the ship
was in celebration of the end of it's specific cruise
and not the end of the Iraq war.

Eisboch (10 year Navy veteran)


Some years ago, I read somewhere that it was the Navy's idea to put the
sign up because Bush was coming aboard and that the White House got the
sign made. The entire event was a Bush media circus, including the part
when he landed on the carrier in a jet with a Navy pilot.

------------------------------------------------

It's a big deal ... even on a nuke aircraft carrier .... to have the
Commander in Chief come aboard.
I was on a couple of small ships and we were once visited by the Secretary
of the Navy.
I thought the Captain was going to **** a brick getting the ship prepared
for his visit.
I am sure the CO of the Lincoln did everything he could to make Bush's visit
memorable.

But again, I repeat ... flying the broom or celebrating the successful
completion of a ship's
long term cruise and mission is traditional. In this case it was not
intended to celebrate a
victory in Iraq. The media reports and interpretations over the years have
made it what
many now view it as.

Eisboch
Anyway, twist and turn

'Liberal' history and the truth often have little in common.



Herring channels Canuckles and Ingertool.


I have proof that Herring and Canook are sockpuppets of Snotty.


You should ask harryk for a date, then you can fleabags can pamper each
other with your bull****.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] October 27th 11 02:29 AM

Real Liberalism
 
On 26/10/2011 6:51 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/26/11 8:45 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:13:57 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/26/11 7:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:34:45 -0400, wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message ...

On 10/26/11 7:12 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Like "hope and change" or "yes we can" Don't knock stupid
slogans. They
worked for one clown.

Yeah, they did. "Mission Accomplished".

--------------------------------------------------

This myth keeps being perpetuated by the media and those who like to
bash Bush as if he was declaring the end of the war in Iraq.

The "Mission Accomplished" banner displayed on the USS Abraham
Lincoln
had nothing to do with Iraq, despite what the media
and Bush haters would like to believe.

US Naval ships often deploy on long term "cruises" that typically
last
for 4-6 months or more away from their home port.
Each of these cruises have a specific "mission". The mission is
unique
to the ship or the task force that it is part of.

Navy tradition includes a celebration of sorts by the ship (or task
force) to acknowledge that their specific, unique "Mission" has
come to
an end and the ship(s) are returning to their home ports and
families.
On smaller ships tradition often includes mounting a broom
upside down somewhere on the mast to indicate a "clean sweep" in the
performance of the unique cruise or mission.

When Bush visited the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier had just
been relieved by another carrier and was on it's way
back to it's home port. The "Mission Accomplished" banner on the ship
was in celebration of the end of it's specific cruise
and not the end of the Iraq war.

Eisboch (10 year Navy veteran)


Some years ago, I read somewhere that it was the Navy's idea to put
the
sign up because Bush was coming aboard and that the White House got
the
sign made. The entire event was a Bush media circus, including the
part
when he landed on the carrier in a jet with a Navy pilot.

------------------------------------------------

It's a big deal ... even on a nuke aircraft carrier .... to have the
Commander in Chief come aboard.
I was on a couple of small ships and we were once visited by the
Secretary
of the Navy.
I thought the Captain was going to **** a brick getting the ship
prepared
for his visit.
I am sure the CO of the Lincoln did everything he could to make
Bush's visit
memorable.

But again, I repeat ... flying the broom or celebrating the successful
completion of a ship's
long term cruise and mission is traditional. In this case it was not
intended to celebrate a
victory in Iraq. The media reports and interpretations over the
years have
made it what
many now view it as.

Eisboch
Anyway, twist and turn

'Liberal' history and the truth often have little in common.


Herring channels Canuckles and Ingertool.


I have proof that Herring and Canook are sockpuppets of Snotty.



:)


So is that a kiss on the balls for jps?
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

iBoaterer[_2_] October 27th 11 01:56 PM

Real Liberalism
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/26/2011 2:38 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..


But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

Never said he knew nothing, why must you always lie. I said it was
requested by the Navy, and it was.. Period...


Okay, I guess you are too narrow minded to read. You do realize that
Bush could have told them that was inappropriate and had it taken down,
don't you. The trouble with this conversation is that because Navy
personnel put it up, you try, because you can't bring yourself to say
anything bad about Bush, to present that the banner wasn't for Bush.
I've proven several times yesterday that what Eisboch said about the
banner being for the ship's mission is just not true.

iBoaterer[_2_] October 27th 11 02:02 PM

Real Liberalism
 
In article ,
says...

"X ` Man" wrote in message ...

On 10/26/11 7:12 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Like "hope and change" or "yes we can" Don't knock stupid slogans. They
worked for one clown.


Yeah, they did. "Mission Accomplished".

--------------------------------------------------

This myth keeps being perpetuated by the media and those who like to
bash Bush as if he was declaring the end of the war in Iraq.

The "Mission Accomplished" banner displayed on the USS Abraham Lincoln
had nothing to do with Iraq, despite what the media
and Bush haters would like to believe.

US Naval ships often deploy on long term "cruises" that typically last
for 4-6 months or more away from their home port.
Each of these cruises have a specific "mission". The mission is unique
to the ship or the task force that it is part of.

Navy tradition includes a celebration of sorts by the ship (or task
force) to acknowledge that their specific, unique "Mission" has come to
an end and the ship(s) are returning to their home ports and families.
On smaller ships tradition often includes mounting a broom
upside down somewhere on the mast to indicate a "clean sweep" in the
performance of the unique cruise or mission.

When Bush visited the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier had just
been relieved by another carrier and was on it's way
back to it's home port. The "Mission Accomplished" banner on the ship
was in celebration of the end of it's specific cruise
and not the end of the Iraq war.

Eisboch (10 year Navy veteran)



Some years ago, I read somewhere that it was the Navy's idea to put the
sign up because Bush was coming aboard and that the White House got the
sign made. The entire event was a Bush media circus, including the part
when he landed on the carrier in a jet with a Navy pilot.

------------------------------------------------

It's a big deal ... even on a nuke aircraft carrier .... to have the
Commander in Chief come aboard.
I was on a couple of small ships and we were once visited by the Secretary
of the Navy.
I thought the Captain was going to **** a brick getting the ship prepared
for his visit.
I am sure the CO of the Lincoln did everything he could to make Bush's visit
memorable.

But again, I repeat ... flying the broom or celebrating the successful
completion of a ship's
long term cruise and mission is traditional. In this case it was not
intended to celebrate a
victory in Iraq. The media reports and interpretations over the years have
made it what
many now view it as.

Eisboch
Anyway, twist and turn


If that were so, how come Bush, in his own words, made excuses, saying
it was because it was an end to major fighting, but the fight must go
on? And why did Bush aide Dan Bartlett take blame as well as Press
Secretary Scott McClellan?


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