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iBoaterer[_2_] October 27th 11 02:04 PM

Real Liberalism
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....


And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."


So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...


Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.

North Star October 27th 11 02:28 PM

Real Liberalism
 
On Oct 27, 10:04*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...


In ,
says...


On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.


Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..


But this means nothing to you?


Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.


If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?


Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.


Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....


And here's more!!!!


At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake."


It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.


"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."


So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...


Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hey... you go, girlfriend!
Bitch slap that little weasel until he cries uncle. ;-)

JustWait October 27th 11 02:58 PM

Real Liberalism
 
On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."


So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...


Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.


Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...

JustWait October 27th 11 02:59 PM

Real Liberalism
 
On 10/27/2011 8:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/26/2011 2:38 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

Never said he knew nothing, why must you always lie. I said it was
requested by the Navy, and it was.. Period...


Okay, I guess you are too narrow minded to read. You do realize that
Bush could have told them that was inappropriate and had it taken down,
don't you. The trouble with this conversation is that because Navy
personnel put it up, you try, because you can't bring yourself to say
anything bad about Bush, to present that the banner wasn't for Bush.
I've proven several times yesterday that what Eisboch said about the
banner being for the ship's mission is just not true.


Nothing you quoted suggested that at all....

JustWait October 27th 11 03:00 PM

Real Liberalism
 
On 10/27/2011 9:02 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlegYadnfn7I79n4TXTnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

"X ` Man" wrote in message ...

On 10/26/11 7:12 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Like "hope and change" or "yes we can" Don't knock stupid slogans. They
worked for one clown.

Yeah, they did. "Mission Accomplished".

--------------------------------------------------

This myth keeps being perpetuated by the media and those who like to
bash Bush as if he was declaring the end of the war in Iraq.

The "Mission Accomplished" banner displayed on the USS Abraham Lincoln
had nothing to do with Iraq, despite what the media
and Bush haters would like to believe.

US Naval ships often deploy on long term "cruises" that typically last
for 4-6 months or more away from their home port.
Each of these cruises have a specific "mission". The mission is unique
to the ship or the task force that it is part of.

Navy tradition includes a celebration of sorts by the ship (or task
force) to acknowledge that their specific, unique "Mission" has come to
an end and the ship(s) are returning to their home ports and families.
On smaller ships tradition often includes mounting a broom
upside down somewhere on the mast to indicate a "clean sweep" in the
performance of the unique cruise or mission.

When Bush visited the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier had just
been relieved by another carrier and was on it's way
back to it's home port. The "Mission Accomplished" banner on the ship
was in celebration of the end of it's specific cruise
and not the end of the Iraq war.

Eisboch (10 year Navy veteran)



Some years ago, I read somewhere that it was the Navy's idea to put the
sign up because Bush was coming aboard and that the White House got the
sign made. The entire event was a Bush media circus, including the part
when he landed on the carrier in a jet with a Navy pilot.

------------------------------------------------

It's a big deal ... even on a nuke aircraft carrier .... to have the
Commander in Chief come aboard.
I was on a couple of small ships and we were once visited by the Secretary
of the Navy.
I thought the Captain was going to **** a brick getting the ship prepared
for his visit.
I am sure the CO of the Lincoln did everything he could to make Bush's visit
memorable.

But again, I repeat ... flying the broom or celebrating the successful
completion of a ship's
long term cruise and mission is traditional. In this case it was not
intended to celebrate a
victory in Iraq. The media reports and interpretations over the years have
made it what
many now view it as.

Eisboch
Anyway, twist and turn


If that were so, how come Bush, in his own words, made excuses, saying
it was because it was an end to major fighting, but the fight must go
on? And why did Bush aide Dan Bartlett take blame as well as Press
Secretary Scott McClellan?


Because you progressives need to be coddled...

iBoaterer[_2_] October 27th 11 03:06 PM

Real Liberalism
 
In article 76d4efdf-f2a6-43f4-b8a8-
,
says...

On Oct 27, 10:04*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...


In ,
says...


On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.


Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..


But this means nothing to you?


Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.


If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?


Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.


Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....


And here's more!!!!


At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake."


It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.


"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."


So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...


Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hey... you go, girlfriend!
Bitch slap that little weasel until he cries uncle. ;-)


Gee Suckling Don the Coward, now you are talking like a 13 year old
girl, and that's an improvement.

iBoaterer[_2_] October 27th 11 03:07 PM

Real Liberalism
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 8:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 2:38 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....
Never said he knew nothing, why must you always lie. I said it was
requested by the Navy, and it was.. Period...


Okay, I guess you are too narrow minded to read. You do realize that
Bush could have told them that was inappropriate and had it taken down,
don't you. The trouble with this conversation is that because Navy
personnel put it up, you try, because you can't bring yourself to say
anything bad about Bush, to present that the banner wasn't for Bush.
I've proven several times yesterday that what Eisboch said about the
banner being for the ship's mission is just not true.


Nothing you quoted suggested that at all....


Suggested WHAT????

iBoaterer[_2_] October 27th 11 03:10 PM

Real Liberalism
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 9:02 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlegYadnfn7I79n4TXTnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

"X ` Man" wrote in message ...

On 10/26/11 7:12 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Like "hope and change" or "yes we can" Don't knock stupid slogans. They
worked for one clown.

Yeah, they did. "Mission Accomplished".

--------------------------------------------------

This myth keeps being perpetuated by the media and those who like to
bash Bush as if he was declaring the end of the war in Iraq.

The "Mission Accomplished" banner displayed on the USS Abraham Lincoln
had nothing to do with Iraq, despite what the media
and Bush haters would like to believe.

US Naval ships often deploy on long term "cruises" that typically last
for 4-6 months or more away from their home port.
Each of these cruises have a specific "mission". The mission is unique
to the ship or the task force that it is part of.

Navy tradition includes a celebration of sorts by the ship (or task
force) to acknowledge that their specific, unique "Mission" has come to
an end and the ship(s) are returning to their home ports and families.
On smaller ships tradition often includes mounting a broom
upside down somewhere on the mast to indicate a "clean sweep" in the
performance of the unique cruise or mission.

When Bush visited the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier had just
been relieved by another carrier and was on it's way
back to it's home port. The "Mission Accomplished" banner on the ship
was in celebration of the end of it's specific cruise
and not the end of the Iraq war.

Eisboch (10 year Navy veteran)


Some years ago, I read somewhere that it was the Navy's idea to put the
sign up because Bush was coming aboard and that the White House got the
sign made. The entire event was a Bush media circus, including the part
when he landed on the carrier in a jet with a Navy pilot.

------------------------------------------------

It's a big deal ... even on a nuke aircraft carrier .... to have the
Commander in Chief come aboard.
I was on a couple of small ships and we were once visited by the Secretary
of the Navy.
I thought the Captain was going to **** a brick getting the ship prepared
for his visit.
I am sure the CO of the Lincoln did everything he could to make Bush's visit
memorable.

But again, I repeat ... flying the broom or celebrating the successful
completion of a ship's
long term cruise and mission is traditional. In this case it was not
intended to celebrate a
victory in Iraq. The media reports and interpretations over the years have
made it what
many now view it as.

Eisboch
Anyway, twist and turn


If that were so, how come Bush, in his own words, made excuses, saying
it was because it was an end to major fighting, but the fight must go
on? And why did Bush aide Dan Bartlett take blame as well as Press
Secretary Scott McClellan?


Because you progressives need to be coddled...


What the **** is THAT supposed to mean? And what the **** makes you
think I'm a "progressive"?? Oh, I know why, it's because you extreme
right wingers are so narrow minded that you think anybody who is even
slightly left of center on some issues is just insanely liberal. You
should look in the mirror! You've become so far to the right that you
don't even make sense anymore. You post here about things that are in
your head that just isn't true. Your insane rant about no people of
color in the protester's ranks for one.

iBoaterer[_2_] October 27th 11 03:12 PM

Real Liberalism
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."

So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...


Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.


Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...


You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it, Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????

JustWait October 27th 11 03:19 PM

Real Liberalism
 
On 10/27/2011 10:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."

So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...

Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.


Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...


You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it, Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????


Who requested it, the Navy and so what if Bush didn't think it was a bad
idea or have someone pull it down as he walked to the podium? Bull,
let's talk about "Fast and Furious" if you want to talk about things
folks knew about and lied about too...

North Star October 27th 11 03:31 PM

Real Liberalism
 
On Oct 27, 11:12*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...


On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...


In ,
says...


On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.


Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..


But this means nothing to you?


Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.


If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?


Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.


Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....


And here's more!!!!


At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake.."


It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.


"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."


So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...


Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.


Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...


You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it, Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Thank you for confirming my diagnosis of Snotty. I knew anyone with
a lick of sense must recognize that.

iBoaterer[_2_] October 27th 11 04:05 PM

Real Liberalism
 
In article bc35177d-f64d-4261-b38d-5fb0ee690763
@r21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 27, 11:12*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...


On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...


In ,
says...


On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.


Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..


But this means nothing to you?


Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.


If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?


Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.


Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....


And here's more!!!!


At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake."


It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.


"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."


So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...


Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.


Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...


You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it, Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Thank you for confirming my diagnosis of Snotty. I knew anyone with
a lick of sense must recognize that.


ESAD, Suckling Don the Coward.

iBoaterer[_2_] October 27th 11 05:43 PM

Real Liberalism
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 10:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."

So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...

Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.

Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...


You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it, Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????


Who requested it, the Navy and so what if Bush didn't think it was a bad
idea or have someone pull it down as he walked to the podium? Bull,
let's talk about "Fast and Furious" if you want to talk about things
folks knew about and lied about too...


Changing the subject, ala Harry again, I see. And the only thing the
Navy requested was that the White House have it made.

JustWait October 27th 11 05:55 PM

Real Liberalism
 
On 10/27/2011 12:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 10:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."

So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...

Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.

Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...

You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it, Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????


Who requested it, the Navy and so what if Bush didn't think it was a bad
idea or have someone pull it down as he walked to the podium? Bull,
let's talk about "Fast and Furious" if you want to talk about things
folks knew about and lied about too...


Changing the subject, ala Harry again, I see. And the only thing the
Navy requested was that the White House have it made.


not at all changing the subject. You say President Bush had it made, I
say the Navy requested he do that...

X ` Man[_3_] October 27th 11 05:58 PM

Real Liberalism
 
On 10/27/11 12:55 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/27/2011 12:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 10:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in
preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they
wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to
create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties
in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse?
Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship
was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO
fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who
had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush
Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the
decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier
where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a
"mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political
analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this
morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was
responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former
White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft
carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."

So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...

Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got
your
head in the sand so far you can see China.

Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...

You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it,
Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????

Who requested it, the Navy and so what if Bush didn't think it was a bad
idea or have someone pull it down as he walked to the podium? Bull,
let's talk about "Fast and Furious" if you want to talk about things
folks knew about and lied about too...


Changing the subject, ala Harry again, I see. And the only thing the
Navy requested was that the White House have it made.


not at all changing the subject. You say President Bush had it made, I
say the Navy requested he do that...



I have a pair of matched pistols, revolver 45's, actually...if you and
iLoogy would like to settle your disputes with each like men,
arrangements could be made. All I ask is the video rights.



iBoaterer[_2_] October 27th 11 06:21 PM

Real Liberalism
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 12:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 10:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."

So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...

Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.

Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...

You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it, Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????

Who requested it, the Navy and so what if Bush didn't think it was a bad
idea or have someone pull it down as he walked to the podium? Bull,
let's talk about "Fast and Furious" if you want to talk about things
folks knew about and lied about too...


Changing the subject, ala Harry again, I see. And the only thing the
Navy requested was that the White House have it made.


not at all changing the subject. You say President Bush had it made, I
say the Navy requested he do that...


Let me try to get this through your head ONE more time. Eisboch said,
and YOU agreed, that the banner was put up for the SHIP'S "Mission
Accomplished". As I've demonstrated several times in this thread, that
is just not the case.

iBoaterer[_2_] October 27th 11 06:23 PM

Real Liberalism
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 10/27/11 12:55 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/27/2011 12:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 10:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in
preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they
wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to
create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties
in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse?
Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship
was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO
fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who
had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush
Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the
decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier
where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a
"mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political
analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this
morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was
responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former
White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft
carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."

So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...

Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got
your
head in the sand so far you can see China.

Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...

You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it,
Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????

Who requested it, the Navy and so what if Bush didn't think it was a bad
idea or have someone pull it down as he walked to the podium? Bull,
let's talk about "Fast and Furious" if you want to talk about things
folks knew about and lied about too...

Changing the subject, ala Harry again, I see. And the only thing the
Navy requested was that the White House have it made.


not at all changing the subject. You say President Bush had it made, I
say the Navy requested he do that...



I have a pair of matched pistols, revolver 45's, actually...if you and
iLoogy would like to settle your disputes with each like men,
arrangements could be made. All I ask is the video rights.


You talking about solving something like "men"? YOU, who comes here and
runs your mouth, then if someone offers to do something about it, turn
coward and say things like "why would I want to meet you?", "I'll answer
my door with a weapon at the ready." You are a first class coward. Worse
than Suckling Don.

JustWait October 27th 11 06:38 PM

Real Liberalism
 
On 10/27/2011 12:58 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/27/11 12:55 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/27/2011 12:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 10:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in
preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they
wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to
create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties
in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse?
Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship
was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO
fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who
had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush
Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the
decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier
where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a
"mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political
analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this
morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was
responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former
White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed
off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft
carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this
day,
because it did send the wrong message."

So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it
was
Bush..Riiiight...

Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got
your
head in the sand so far you can see China.

Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...

You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it,
Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the
banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????

Who requested it, the Navy and so what if Bush didn't think it was a
bad
idea or have someone pull it down as he walked to the podium? Bull,
let's talk about "Fast and Furious" if you want to talk about things
folks knew about and lied about too...

Changing the subject, ala Harry again, I see. And the only thing the
Navy requested was that the White House have it made.


not at all changing the subject. You say President Bush had it made, I
say the Navy requested he do that...



I have a pair of matched pistols, revolver 45's, actually...if you and
iLoogy would like to settle your disputes with each like men,
arrangements could be made. All I ask is the video rights.



Wow, you are a real hero Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of
America!

JustWait October 27th 11 06:40 PM

Real Liberalism
 
On 10/27/2011 1:21 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 12:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 10:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."

So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...

Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.

Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...

You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it, Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????

Who requested it, the Navy and so what if Bush didn't think it was a bad
idea or have someone pull it down as he walked to the podium? Bull,
let's talk about "Fast and Furious" if you want to talk about things
folks knew about and lied about too...

Changing the subject, ala Harry again, I see. And the only thing the
Navy requested was that the White House have it made.


not at all changing the subject. You say President Bush had it made, I
say the Navy requested he do that...


Let me try to get this through your head ONE more time. Eisboch said,
and YOU agreed, that the banner was put up for the SHIP'S "Mission
Accomplished". As I've demonstrated several times in this thread, that
is just not the case.


You have demonstrated nothing but a kind man, George Bush trying to
smooth over another issue manufactured by the left snerk

X ` Man[_3_] October 27th 11 07:08 PM

Real Liberalism
 
On 10/27/11 1:38 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/27/2011 12:58 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/27/11 12:55 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/27/2011 12:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 10:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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says...

On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In
,
says...

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says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in
preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they
wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to
create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his
speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties
in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse?
Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship
was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO
fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who
had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush
Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the
decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier
where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a
"mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political
analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this
morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was
responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former
White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the
past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed
off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft
carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this
day,
because it did send the wrong message."

So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it
was
Bush..Riiiight...

Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got
your
head in the sand so far you can see China.

Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...

You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it,
Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the
banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????

Who requested it, the Navy and so what if Bush didn't think it was a
bad
idea or have someone pull it down as he walked to the podium? Bull,
let's talk about "Fast and Furious" if you want to talk about things
folks knew about and lied about too...

Changing the subject, ala Harry again, I see. And the only thing the
Navy requested was that the White House have it made.

not at all changing the subject. You say President Bush had it made, I
say the Navy requested he do that...



I have a pair of matched pistols, revolver 45's, actually...if you and
iLoogy would like to settle your disputes with each like men,
arrangements could be made. All I ask is the video rights.



Wow, you are a real hero Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of
America!


Why, thank you, Mr. Mrs. Terri Teresa or Theresa Ingersoll of South
Windsor, Connecticut.

I'm just a guy trying to do my part of ridding the world of vermin like
you or iLoogy. If you two want to fight, I'll all for it.

D'oh.

iBoaterer[_2_] October 27th 11 07:22 PM

Real Liberalism
 
In article ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 1:21 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 12:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 10:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

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says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day,
because it did send the wrong message."

So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was
Bush..Riiiight...

Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.

Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...

You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it, Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????

Who requested it, the Navy and so what if Bush didn't think it was a bad
idea or have someone pull it down as he walked to the podium? Bull,
let's talk about "Fast and Furious" if you want to talk about things
folks knew about and lied about too...

Changing the subject, ala Harry again, I see. And the only thing the
Navy requested was that the White House have it made.

not at all changing the subject. You say President Bush had it made, I
say the Navy requested he do that...


Let me try to get this through your head ONE more time. Eisboch said,
and YOU agreed, that the banner was put up for the SHIP'S "Mission
Accomplished". As I've demonstrated several times in this thread, that
is just not the case.


You have demonstrated nothing but a kind man, George Bush trying to
smooth over another issue manufactured by the left snerk


Oh, so then Bush LIED about the banner? Got it.

X ` Man October 27th 11 07:27 PM

Real Liberalism
 
On 10/27/11 1:40 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/27/2011 1:21 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/27/2011 12:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 10:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In
,
says...

In ,

says...

On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote:


White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in
preparing for the
speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they
wanted a
"Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed
to create it.




Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying..

But this means nothing to you?

Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his
speech
declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission
Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S.
casualties in Iraq
since then have surpassed those before it.

If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that
excuse? Are you
really so blinded by your party that you can't see?

Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the
ship was VERY
well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing,
TWO fly-by's,
his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House,
(who had the
banner made) knew nothing of it.

Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush
Presidential
Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT.....

And here's more!!!!

At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the
decision to
put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier
where he
gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a
"mistake."

It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News
political analyst
Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this
morning by
Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was
responsible for
the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former
White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the
past ?
Bartlett said that it was actually his call.

"Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed
off" on
posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the
aircraft carrier
approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this
day,
because it did send the wrong message."

So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know
it was
Bush..Riiiight...

Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have
got your
head in the sand so far you can see China.

Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it...

You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it,
Rumsfield
ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the
banner.
Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press
Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even
after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it?????

Who requested it, the Navy and so what if Bush didn't think it was
a bad
idea or have someone pull it down as he walked to the podium? Bull,
let's talk about "Fast and Furious" if you want to talk about things
folks knew about and lied about too...

Changing the subject, ala Harry again, I see. And the only thing the
Navy requested was that the White House have it made.

not at all changing the subject. You say President Bush had it made, I
say the Navy requested he do that...


Let me try to get this through your head ONE more time. Eisboch said,
and YOU agreed, that the banner was put up for the SHIP'S "Mission
Accomplished". As I've demonstrated several times in this thread, that
is just not the case.


You have demonstrated nothing but a kind man, George Bush trying to
smooth over another issue manufactured by the left snerk


You think Dubya is a "kind man"? You really are the dictionary
definition of "**** for brains."

Eisboch[_8_] October 29th 11 01:21 AM

Real Liberalism
 


"jps" wrote in message ...


Let's let the man speak for himself...

"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq,
the United States and our allies have prevailed." —speaking underneath
a "Mission Accomplished" banner aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1,
2003

Were the rest of combat operations in Iraq non-major? That's not my
impression nor do I believe that most soldiers that did 3 or 4 tours
over there would subscribe to that notion.

Was the "surge" a minor operation? Why did we need the surge since
the US and allies had prevailed?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

With due respect (and I have a *lot* of it) to those who fought, died and
were injured in Iraq following the
initial, US led attacks ..... you have a different idea in your mind as to
what "major" combat operations are
when compared to a military definition. What happened after the invasion
and conclusion of the military
major operation was basically a civil war in which we .... having sparked
the fuse .... were obligated to
remain involved in.

What ended was massive, around the clock air sorties and the overwhelming
ground invasion and penetration
into Bagdad and other major Iraqi cities which forced Saddam and most of his
henchmen into hiding.
Over 9,000 air sorties by American warplanes were conducted during this time
frame.

In military circles *that* was the major combat operation.

Your definition may be different, but Bush was referring to the military
definition and not what happened
after ... much of which was not anticipated or even planned for.




jps October 29th 11 05:12 AM

Real Liberalism
 
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:21:48 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"jps" wrote in message ...


Let's let the man speak for himself...

"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq,
the United States and our allies have prevailed." —speaking underneath
a "Mission Accomplished" banner aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1,
2003

Were the rest of combat operations in Iraq non-major? That's not my
impression nor do I believe that most soldiers that did 3 or 4 tours
over there would subscribe to that notion.

Was the "surge" a minor operation? Why did we need the surge since
the US and allies had prevailed?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

With due respect (and I have a *lot* of it) to those who fought, died and
were injured in Iraq following the
initial, US led attacks ..... you have a different idea in your mind as to
what "major" combat operations are
when compared to a military definition. What happened after the invasion
and conclusion of the military
major operation was basically a civil war in which we .... having sparked
the fuse .... were obligated to
remain involved in.

What ended was massive, around the clock air sorties and the overwhelming
ground invasion and penetration
into Bagdad and other major Iraqi cities which forced Saddam and most of his
henchmen into hiding.
Over 9,000 air sorties by American warplanes were conducted during this time
frame.

In military circles *that* was the major combat operation.

Your definition may be different, but Bush was referring to the military
definition and not what happened
after ... much of which was not anticipated or even planned for.



Shock and awe was certainly the big show but the real war didn't start
until our troops went into Bagdhad.

Major combat operations resulted in how many American deaths? Minor
combat operations cost over 5,000 lives, tens of thousans of injured
and over a million Iraqis dead or displaced.

Semantics may be skillfully used to frame an argument but they don't
make the argument either accurate or truthful.

Eisboch[_8_] October 29th 11 10:47 AM

Real Liberalism
 


"jps" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:21:48 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


Semantics may be skillfully used to frame an argument but they don't
make the argument either accurate or truthful.

--------------------------------------------------------

Exactly right.

There's also a lot of broad-brush accounts of very complex and detailed
issues by Monday morning quarterbacks.



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