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On 10/21/2011 3:21 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 10/21/2011 2:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/21/2011 2:20 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:14:39 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:47:27 -0700, wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:16:53 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:33:25 -0400, X ` wrote: This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we damned near had WWIII over Cuba. This time it might be WWIII over Israel. Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars with countries not at war with us. That dummy. JFK was pretty stupid in that affair and was clearly thinking with his dick not his brain. He took this whole thing to the brink of WWIII for exactly the same deal he could have had 10 months before without any drama. The Soviets wanted our missiles out of Turkey, they pushed the issue by putting missiles in Cuba and in the end we pulled the missiles out of Turkey. We just had a dick measuring contest that almost destroyed the world before we did it. I never thought this was a success, on any level. All we proved was that the Soviets were not as crazy as we thought they were. What we didn't understand was that Castro had operational control of some of those missiles and that they were capable of firing them. (a serious CIA failure) And Bush wanted to measure dicks with somebody who didn't have one. We will have spent 5000 American lives, 50,000 wounded, 1 million Iraqis dead or displaced. All for a dick measurement against no one. I agree Iraq was stupid but it wasn't toying with thermonuclear war. Your point being? His point being that Kennedy was "toying with thermonuclear war"... What is so hard about that. Are you such an ideologue, you can't even read a plainly put statement? Really... And quite frankly, the one obvious reason we went into Iraq (if we suggest there was an alternative for the sake of "this" argument), poke holes in the suggestion that we went in to try and get some American troops and supply lines closer to Iran, who is still working furiously to get a nuke to Isreal, Saudi, USA, and Europe... Think about it, if you can get the Bush Derangement Syndrome under control for a minute... That's about the stupidest excuse for going there that I've ever heard! So, you don't think Iran's nukes are a threat? You don't think Pakistan is a threat? Wow, talk about stupid... Good god, man!!! I never said that Iran's nukes aren't a threat. And no, Pakistan is not a threat, but alas, I never said that neither. What I said was "That's about the stupidest excuse for going there that I've ever heard." If Bush spent billions of dollars to go to Iraq and start a war to have access to Iran, that's beyond stupid. Ever play Risk? Your opinion is no different than mine, except yours comes with the obligatory insults... |
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On 10/21/2011 3:22 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/21/11 3:11 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/21/2011 2:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/21/2011 2:20 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:14:39 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:47:27 -0700, wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:16:53 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:33:25 -0400, X ` wrote: This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we damned near had WWIII over Cuba. This time it might be WWIII over Israel. Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars with countries not at war with us. That dummy. JFK was pretty stupid in that affair and was clearly thinking with his dick not his brain. He took this whole thing to the brink of WWIII for exactly the same deal he could have had 10 months before without any drama. The Soviets wanted our missiles out of Turkey, they pushed the issue by putting missiles in Cuba and in the end we pulled the missiles out of Turkey. We just had a dick measuring contest that almost destroyed the world before we did it. I never thought this was a success, on any level. All we proved was that the Soviets were not as crazy as we thought they were. What we didn't understand was that Castro had operational control of some of those missiles and that they were capable of firing them. (a serious CIA failure) And Bush wanted to measure dicks with somebody who didn't have one. We will have spent 5000 American lives, 50,000 wounded, 1 million Iraqis dead or displaced. All for a dick measurement against no one. I agree Iraq was stupid but it wasn't toying with thermonuclear war. Your point being? His point being that Kennedy was "toying with thermonuclear war"... What is so hard about that. Are you such an ideologue, you can't even read a plainly put statement? Really... And quite frankly, the one obvious reason we went into Iraq (if we suggest there was an alternative for the sake of "this" argument), poke holes in the suggestion that we went in to try and get some American troops and supply lines closer to Iran, who is still working furiously to get a nuke to Isreal, Saudi, USA, and Europe... Think about it, if you can get the Bush Derangement Syndrome under control for a minute... That's about the stupidest excuse for going there that I've ever heard! So, you don't think Iran's nukes are a threat? You don't think Pakistan is a threat? Wow, talk about stupid... We're not going to invade Iran absent a powerful and significant act of war on its part so long as someone mentally competent is in the White House. Yet another reason not to vote for Republicans. Yeah, and in the mean time Obama is making sure there is a huge buffer of Iran friendly countries between us, and them... We just got kicked out of Iraq because Obama couldn't negotiate a deal to protect our Soldiers from the Iranian influence in Iraq. |
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On 10/21/11 3:36 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/21/2011 3:22 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 10/21/11 3:11 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/21/2011 2:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/21/2011 2:20 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:14:39 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:47:27 -0700, wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:16:53 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:33:25 -0400, X ` wrote: This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we damned near had WWIII over Cuba. This time it might be WWIII over Israel. Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars with countries not at war with us. That dummy. JFK was pretty stupid in that affair and was clearly thinking with his dick not his brain. He took this whole thing to the brink of WWIII for exactly the same deal he could have had 10 months before without any drama. The Soviets wanted our missiles out of Turkey, they pushed the issue by putting missiles in Cuba and in the end we pulled the missiles out of Turkey. We just had a dick measuring contest that almost destroyed the world before we did it. I never thought this was a success, on any level. All we proved was that the Soviets were not as crazy as we thought they were. What we didn't understand was that Castro had operational control of some of those missiles and that they were capable of firing them. (a serious CIA failure) And Bush wanted to measure dicks with somebody who didn't have one. We will have spent 5000 American lives, 50,000 wounded, 1 million Iraqis dead or displaced. All for a dick measurement against no one. I agree Iraq was stupid but it wasn't toying with thermonuclear war. Your point being? His point being that Kennedy was "toying with thermonuclear war"... What is so hard about that. Are you such an ideologue, you can't even read a plainly put statement? Really... And quite frankly, the one obvious reason we went into Iraq (if we suggest there was an alternative for the sake of "this" argument), poke holes in the suggestion that we went in to try and get some American troops and supply lines closer to Iran, who is still working furiously to get a nuke to Isreal, Saudi, USA, and Europe... Think about it, if you can get the Bush Derangement Syndrome under control for a minute... That's about the stupidest excuse for going there that I've ever heard! So, you don't think Iran's nukes are a threat? You don't think Pakistan is a threat? Wow, talk about stupid... We're not going to invade Iran absent a powerful and significant act of war on its part so long as someone mentally competent is in the White House. Yet another reason not to vote for Republicans. Yeah, and in the mean time Obama is making sure there is a huge buffer of Iran friendly countries between us, and them... We just got kicked out of Iraq because Obama couldn't negotiate a deal to protect our Soldiers from the Iranian influence in Iraq. Iraq isn't and never will be one of those "friendly" post WWII defeated countries like Japan or Germany. If we have a small force in a *belligerent* country and it cannot protect itself, we have no business having troops there. Of all the problems Bush opened in his Pandora's box of invading Iraq, the most significant was the fact that he didn't have an End Game because...there isn't one. |
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On 21/10/2011 1:11 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/21/2011 2:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/21/2011 2:20 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:14:39 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:47:27 -0700, wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:16:53 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:33:25 -0400, X ` wrote: This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we damned near had WWIII over Cuba. This time it might be WWIII over Israel. Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars with countries not at war with us. That dummy. JFK was pretty stupid in that affair and was clearly thinking with his dick not his brain. He took this whole thing to the brink of WWIII for exactly the same deal he could have had 10 months before without any drama. The Soviets wanted our missiles out of Turkey, they pushed the issue by putting missiles in Cuba and in the end we pulled the missiles out of Turkey. We just had a dick measuring contest that almost destroyed the world before we did it. I never thought this was a success, on any level. All we proved was that the Soviets were not as crazy as we thought they were. What we didn't understand was that Castro had operational control of some of those missiles and that they were capable of firing them. (a serious CIA failure) And Bush wanted to measure dicks with somebody who didn't have one. We will have spent 5000 American lives, 50,000 wounded, 1 million Iraqis dead or displaced. All for a dick measurement against no one. I agree Iraq was stupid but it wasn't toying with thermonuclear war. Your point being? His point being that Kennedy was "toying with thermonuclear war"... What is so hard about that. Are you such an ideologue, you can't even read a plainly put statement? Really... And quite frankly, the one obvious reason we went into Iraq (if we suggest there was an alternative for the sake of "this" argument), poke holes in the suggestion that we went in to try and get some American troops and supply lines closer to Iran, who is still working furiously to get a nuke to Isreal, Saudi, USA, and Europe... Think about it, if you can get the Bush Derangement Syndrome under control for a minute... That's about the stupidest excuse for going there that I've ever heard! So, you don't think Iran's nukes are a threat? You don't think Pakistan is a threat? Wow, talk about stupid... Especially since religious fanatics are at the buttons. Good part is they are probably crude and low yield. But still. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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says... On 10/21/2011 11:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In raweb.com, says... On 10/21/2011 10:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In aweb.com, says... On 10/21/2011 8:56 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars with countries not at war with us. That dummy. ------------------------------------------------------------------ I am old enough to remember well the Cuban missile crisis and watching JFK on television announcing the blockade. It turns out he made the right choice of his options but most historians agree that we were never closer to WWIII. It could have gone another way. Khrushchev also got much of what he wanted in under reported, secret negotiations. I think many are too quick to condemn Bush for some of his decisions and seem to forget that forcing Saddam Hussein from power was not without at least 6 months of international discussion and debate in the UN. Hussein was becoming increasingly more defiant of the resolutions imposed by the international community (UN) following his invasion of Kuwait, firing on aircraft patrolling the "no fly" zone, etc. I am sure there was some pressure from other nations as well to keep him in check. We can only speculate on what actions Hussein would have taken if he was not confronted. If Bush had done nothing and Hussein had become more aggressive again, internally and with neighbors, Bush would be regarded as a dummy for not doing anything rather than being a dummy for the action he took. Tough job, being POTUS. I surely would never want it. President Obama rightly deserves some credit for helping rid the world of Gaddafi. Hussein was also a war mongering dictator who ruled by imposing terror on Iraqi citizens who didn't pledge their allegiance to him. So why is Bush a dummy and Obama a hero? The argument that Obama took a "back seat" role versus a major military action doesn't hold up. Different situations, different difficulties and challenges. O/bama seems to be implying he deserves credit for Gaddafi's killing. Covert operations generally go un credited but Obama is changing all that. Makes the secret services job a little tougher. Do you mean like Bush "getting" Saddam? Did bush murder Sadaam? I don't see where what I replied to had anything to do with murder. Actually doofus what you replied to had nothing to do with Bush Sure it did, it described his actions to a tee! |
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On 21/10/2011 1:42 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/21/11 3:36 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/21/2011 3:22 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 10/21/11 3:11 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/21/2011 2:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/21/2011 2:20 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:14:39 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:47:27 -0700, wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:16:53 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:33:25 -0400, X ` wrote: This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we damned near had WWIII over Cuba. This time it might be WWIII over Israel. Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars with countries not at war with us. That dummy. JFK was pretty stupid in that affair and was clearly thinking with his dick not his brain. He took this whole thing to the brink of WWIII for exactly the same deal he could have had 10 months before without any drama. The Soviets wanted our missiles out of Turkey, they pushed the issue by putting missiles in Cuba and in the end we pulled the missiles out of Turkey. We just had a dick measuring contest that almost destroyed the world before we did it. I never thought this was a success, on any level. All we proved was that the Soviets were not as crazy as we thought they were. What we didn't understand was that Castro had operational control of some of those missiles and that they were capable of firing them. (a serious CIA failure) And Bush wanted to measure dicks with somebody who didn't have one. We will have spent 5000 American lives, 50,000 wounded, 1 million Iraqis dead or displaced. All for a dick measurement against no one. I agree Iraq was stupid but it wasn't toying with thermonuclear war. Your point being? His point being that Kennedy was "toying with thermonuclear war"... What is so hard about that. Are you such an ideologue, you can't even read a plainly put statement? Really... And quite frankly, the one obvious reason we went into Iraq (if we suggest there was an alternative for the sake of "this" argument), poke holes in the suggestion that we went in to try and get some American troops and supply lines closer to Iran, who is still working furiously to get a nuke to Isreal, Saudi, USA, and Europe... Think about it, if you can get the Bush Derangement Syndrome under control for a minute... That's about the stupidest excuse for going there that I've ever heard! So, you don't think Iran's nukes are a threat? You don't think Pakistan is a threat? Wow, talk about stupid... We're not going to invade Iran absent a powerful and significant act of war on its part so long as someone mentally competent is in the White House. Yet another reason not to vote for Republicans. Yeah, and in the mean time Obama is making sure there is a huge buffer of Iran friendly countries between us, and them... We just got kicked out of Iraq because Obama couldn't negotiate a deal to protect our Soldiers from the Iranian influence in Iraq. Iraq isn't and never will be one of those "friendly" post WWII defeated countries like Japan or Germany. If we have a small force in a *belligerent* country and it cannot protect itself, we have no business having troops there. Of all the problems Bush opened in his Pandora's box of invading Iraq, the most significant was the fact that he didn't have an End Game because...there isn't one. Agreed. There is no end game. USA could save trillions and just let them all build up for a Iran/Iraq war amongst themselves. No need for Americans to be the bad boys. Islam gets along with no one, and often not even with themselves. Use it. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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On 10/21/11 3:44 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 21/10/2011 1:11 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/21/2011 2:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/21/2011 2:20 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:14:39 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:47:27 -0700, wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:16:53 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:33:25 -0400, X ` wrote: This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we damned near had WWIII over Cuba. This time it might be WWIII over Israel. Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars with countries not at war with us. That dummy. JFK was pretty stupid in that affair and was clearly thinking with his dick not his brain. He took this whole thing to the brink of WWIII for exactly the same deal he could have had 10 months before without any drama. The Soviets wanted our missiles out of Turkey, they pushed the issue by putting missiles in Cuba and in the end we pulled the missiles out of Turkey. We just had a dick measuring contest that almost destroyed the world before we did it. I never thought this was a success, on any level. All we proved was that the Soviets were not as crazy as we thought they were. What we didn't understand was that Castro had operational control of some of those missiles and that they were capable of firing them. (a serious CIA failure) And Bush wanted to measure dicks with somebody who didn't have one. We will have spent 5000 American lives, 50,000 wounded, 1 million Iraqis dead or displaced. All for a dick measurement against no one. I agree Iraq was stupid but it wasn't toying with thermonuclear war. Your point being? His point being that Kennedy was "toying with thermonuclear war"... What is so hard about that. Are you such an ideologue, you can't even read a plainly put statement? Really... And quite frankly, the one obvious reason we went into Iraq (if we suggest there was an alternative for the sake of "this" argument), poke holes in the suggestion that we went in to try and get some American troops and supply lines closer to Iran, who is still working furiously to get a nuke to Isreal, Saudi, USA, and Europe... Think about it, if you can get the Bush Derangement Syndrome under control for a minute... That's about the stupidest excuse for going there that I've ever heard! So, you don't think Iran's nukes are a threat? You don't think Pakistan is a threat? Wow, talk about stupid... Especially since religious fanatics are at the buttons. Good part is they are probably crude and low yield. But still. You'd better hope Cain or Perry aren't the next president because they're also religious fanatics, especially Perry. |
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On 10/21/2011 3:25 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 10/21/2011 11:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In raweb.com, says... On 10/21/2011 10:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In aweb.com, says... On 10/21/2011 8:56 AM, Eisboch wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars with countries not at war with us. That dummy. ------------------------------------------------------------------ I am old enough to remember well the Cuban missile crisis and watching JFK on television announcing the blockade. It turns out he made the right choice of his options but most historians agree that we were never closer to WWIII. It could have gone another way. Khrushchev also got much of what he wanted in under reported, secret negotiations. I think many are too quick to condemn Bush for some of his decisions and seem to forget that forcing Saddam Hussein from power was not without at least 6 months of international discussion and debate in the UN. Hussein was becoming increasingly more defiant of the resolutions imposed by the international community (UN) following his invasion of Kuwait, firing on aircraft patrolling the "no fly" zone, etc. I am sure there was some pressure from other nations as well to keep him in check. We can only speculate on what actions Hussein would have taken if he was not confronted. If Bush had done nothing and Hussein had become more aggressive again, internally and with neighbors, Bush would be regarded as a dummy for not doing anything rather than being a dummy for the action he took. Tough job, being POTUS. I surely would never want it. President Obama rightly deserves some credit for helping rid the world of Gaddafi. Hussein was also a war mongering dictator who ruled by imposing terror on Iraqi citizens who didn't pledge their allegiance to him. So why is Bush a dummy and Obama a hero? The argument that Obama took a "back seat" role versus a major military action doesn't hold up. Different situations, different difficulties and challenges. O/bama seems to be implying he deserves credit for Gaddafi's killing. Covert operations generally go un credited but Obama is changing all that. Makes the secret services job a little tougher. Do you mean like Bush "getting" Saddam? Did bush murder Sadaam? I don't see where what I replied to had anything to do with murder. Actually doofus what you replied to had nothing to do with Bush snerk |
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On 10/21/2011 3:42 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/21/11 3:36 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/21/2011 3:22 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 10/21/11 3:11 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/21/2011 2:53 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/21/2011 2:20 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:14:39 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:47:27 -0700, wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:16:53 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:33:25 -0400, X ` wrote: This whole Arab Spring thing can still blow up in our face if these guys don't turn out to be the peace loving people we hope they will be. I can remember people talking about what a great guy Castro was because he defeated that evil dictator Batista and how he was going to bring freedom to the island.. That lasted about 6 weeks until Castro said, "Oh wait. Maybe I am really a communist" (after denying it for years) and started nationalizing the whole island. Two years later we damned near had WWIII over Cuba. This time it might be WWIII over Israel. Fortunately, we didn't have an absolute dummy in the white house during the cuban missle crisis. We did have an absolute dummy in the white house from 2001 to January 2009. You know, the guy who started two wars with countries not at war with us. That dummy. JFK was pretty stupid in that affair and was clearly thinking with his dick not his brain. He took this whole thing to the brink of WWIII for exactly the same deal he could have had 10 months before without any drama. The Soviets wanted our missiles out of Turkey, they pushed the issue by putting missiles in Cuba and in the end we pulled the missiles out of Turkey. We just had a dick measuring contest that almost destroyed the world before we did it. I never thought this was a success, on any level. All we proved was that the Soviets were not as crazy as we thought they were. What we didn't understand was that Castro had operational control of some of those missiles and that they were capable of firing them. (a serious CIA failure) And Bush wanted to measure dicks with somebody who didn't have one. We will have spent 5000 American lives, 50,000 wounded, 1 million Iraqis dead or displaced. All for a dick measurement against no one. I agree Iraq was stupid but it wasn't toying with thermonuclear war. Your point being? His point being that Kennedy was "toying with thermonuclear war"... What is so hard about that. Are you such an ideologue, you can't even read a plainly put statement? Really... And quite frankly, the one obvious reason we went into Iraq (if we suggest there was an alternative for the sake of "this" argument), poke holes in the suggestion that we went in to try and get some American troops and supply lines closer to Iran, who is still working furiously to get a nuke to Isreal, Saudi, USA, and Europe... Think about it, if you can get the Bush Derangement Syndrome under control for a minute... That's about the stupidest excuse for going there that I've ever heard! So, you don't think Iran's nukes are a threat? You don't think Pakistan is a threat? Wow, talk about stupid... We're not going to invade Iran absent a powerful and significant act of war on its part so long as someone mentally competent is in the White House. Yet another reason not to vote for Republicans. Yeah, and in the mean time Obama is making sure there is a huge buffer of Iran friendly countries between us, and them... We just got kicked out of Iraq because Obama couldn't negotiate a deal to protect our Soldiers from the Iranian influence in Iraq. Iraq isn't and never will be one of those "friendly" post WWII defeated countries like Japan or Germany. If we have a small force in a *belligerent* country and it cannot protect itself, we have no business having troops there. Of all the problems Bush opened in his Pandora's box of invading Iraq, the most significant was the fact that he didn't have an End Game because...there isn't one. In your opinion, but it would be nice to have a full array of deterrent in Iraq while Iran is working so hard on a bomb and delivery system, the only way you can deny that, is if you are a liar... oh wait! |
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