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"John Fereira" wrote...
(William R. Watt) wrote:

I prefer a canoe type of boat for paddling up small creeks and other
narrow channels where the kayak paddle needs too much side
clearance,

How so? With a high angle paddle stroke in a kayak which is typically
much narrower than a canoe I contend that a kayak would actually
require less side clearance.

I use a high stroke with a kayak paddle. It is much more awkward in
tight situations even in a narrower boat.

I'd agree that a high angle stroke can be a bit more awkward when the
water
is extremely shallow but I don't find it any less awkward than a low angle
stroke under any other conditions.

Oops, I meant that the kayak paddle was more awkward in tight situations
than a canoe paddle. The high stroke helps, but not enough.

Add low overhanging branches
& it's darn near hopeless.

Add low overhanging branches with a snake in them and I'd prefer to be in
a
closed cockpit boat. Frankly, I don't find paddling in waters that are so
narrow and enclosed with low hanging tree branches to all that enjoyable,
not matter what kind of boat I'm paddling.

I love narrow streams with overhanging branches. There don't seem to be any
tree climbing snakes in this area.

Lloyd Bowles

"Lloyd Bowles" ) writes:
"John Fereira" wrote...
(William R. Watt) wrote:

I prefer a canoe type of boat for paddling up small creeks and other
narrow channels where the kayak paddle needs too much side clearance,

How so? With a high angle paddle stroke in a kayak which is typically
much
narrower than a canoe I contend that a kayak would actually require less
side clearance.

I use a high stroke with a kayak paddle. It is much more awkward in tight
situations even in a narrower boat. Add low overhanging branches & it's
darn near hopeless. A 2 piece kayak paddle can be taken apart to use as a
canoe paddle in ight quarters.

problem with kayak fanatics is you can't tell them anything. there are big
canoes and small canoes, big kayaks and small kayaks. in a narrow channel
a canoe of the same size is better. yes its possible to paddle a kayak
backwards but paddling a canoe frontwards beats paddling a kayak backwards
hands down. and if you do have to resort to a poling or to sticking out one
foot and pushing, well the kayak fanatic will say that's easy in a kayak too.

when it comes right down to it it's easier and a lot more fun to sail a
canoe or kayak through a narrow channel steering with weight shifts (which
I've done up a narrow winding beaver creek), but you can't sail backwards
and it's tricky to sail a canoe or kayak and take photos at the same time.
I have a feeling some kayak fanatic is going to disagree.

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Amen William, I thought the same thing.

Te Canaille

"William R. Watt" wrote in message ...
"Lloyd Bowles" ) writes:
"John Fereira" wrote...
(William R. Watt) wrote:

I prefer a canoe type of boat for paddling up small creeks and other
narrow channels where the kayak paddle needs too much side clearance,

How so? With a high angle paddle stroke in a kayak which is typically
much
narrower than a canoe I contend that a kayak would actually require less
side clearance.

I use a high stroke with a kayak paddle. It is much more awkward in tight
situations even in a narrower boat. Add low overhanging branches & it's
darn near hopeless. A 2 piece kayak paddle can be taken apart to use as a
canoe paddle in ight quarters.

problem with kayak fanatics is you can't tell them anything. there are big
canoes and small canoes, big kayaks and small kayaks. in a narrow channel
a canoe of the same size is better. yes its possible to paddle a kayak
backwards but paddling a canoe frontwards beats paddling a kayak backwards
hands down. and if you do have to resort to a poling or to sticking out one
foot and pushing, well the kayak fanatic will say that's easy in a kayak too.

when it comes right down to it it's easier and a lot more fun to sail a
canoe or kayak through a narrow channel steering with weight shifts (which
I've done up a narrow winding beaver creek), but you can't sail backwards
and it's tricky to sail a canoe or kayak and take photos at the same time.
I have a feeling some kayak fanatic is going to disagree.

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http://www.sagebrushdrygoods.com/

This company was mentioned by a professional photographer. They have
dry bags for SLR's. This is exactly what I'm looking for since I don't
want to go under water and I prefer to use an SLR for picture quality
and lens flexibility. I use a deck drybag (Voyageur) in Baja on a
closed deck kayak and it works great. The pro in the article puts the
dry bag under the skirt between his legs. Obviously you don't remove
the camera when it's rough and why would you try to take a picture
when conditions are bad anyway? Even if you don't take pictures from
the kayak, you may want to have easy access to it when you land.

On the sit-on-top, I would probably put the camera bag in small
backpack which could easily be opened and the camera removed for
shooting opportunities.

The only disadvantage I see to this system is that extensive use on
the water will probably reduce the life of the camera but that is not
a concern for me.

http://www.eskimo.com/~gluhm/bio/FAQ.htm



"Rick" wrote in message link.net...
Alex,

In addition to what has been recomended is that you can buy a waterproof
camera bag which can house most 35 MM SLR's (I believe sea&sea used to make
these, though there are other vendors as well). These bags won't allow you
to change lenses, but they are good down to recreational depths (some are
rated as low as 30 feet) if properly sealed. As with all such devices, they
must be sealed properly, without any sediment on the seals, to work
properly. They seem to run about $200-$300.

Rick

"Alex Horvath" wrote in message
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On my enclosed deck kayak, I keep my standard SLR camera in a
waterproof deck bag. I may be doing some tropical paddling on a sit on
top. I could put the deck bag behind me but it has a dry suit zipper
which takes some effort to open. I suppose another possibility would
be some sort of water proof chest bag.

Anyone done much photography from a sit on top with a standard (non
waterproof) camera?