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On 10/14/2011 7:36 PM, X ` Man wrote:

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Anyone seen a mission statment from these protesters?
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Venting frustration. Understandable, but totally ineffective.
Here's why, IMO:

They are protesting the wrong people and groups. Think about it.
Your CPA or tax return preparer will advise you to take every legal
deduction available to you on your individual tax returns.
Those legal deductions (and legal loopholes) are legislated and determined
by ...... guess who?

Business tax returns and rules governing Wall Street operations are also
subject to legal deductions and loopholes,
legislated and determined by ...... guess who?

The protesters are targeting the wrong groups. The group that should be
protested and voted out of office are the career
politicians in DC who determine and write the rules that individuals, banks,
businesses and Wall Street are subject to.
These corrupt politicians .... on both sides of the political spectrum ....
have established too many IOU's over their "careers"
and have muddied the waters with BS to cast the blame on everyone else other
than themselves.

And we are stupid enough to believe them and continue to re-elect them.

You don't get it. They are protesting the "system."
Part of the system is the Wall Street bought pols getting re-elected.
Where do you get the idea they don't despise the current politicians?
And do you really think most of these people have a CPA, or have enough
income to worry about tax dodges?

What they have is debt and no prospects for a good job.
The protesters have avoided having a political agenda.
That's a good move. Nearly all the pols are bought, so will turn
against them with a vengeance.
For example, 3 new free trade bills just passed Congress a few days ago.
Those trade bills will cost the U.S. hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Who lobbied most for these bills?
Citibank, big pharma, and big agriculture. Wall Street.
Who voted for the bills?
Democrats and Republicans.
The so-called "socialist" President, Obama, will sign them into law.
So we'll soon have Hyundais and other Korean products for sale here that
are produced by North Korean slave labor of Kim Jong-il.
Panama, a premier tax shelter haven, will be able to tax shelter more
U.S. corporations and other wealth with added treaty protections.
The system is broken.

Here's what's going to happen in the not distant future.
As joblessness, despair for a decent future, and wealth disparity become
even more pronounced, the protests will grow.
There will be violence. Blood will flow. Heads will be put on pikes.
It's going to get very nasty.
EVERYBODY in the U.S. is covered by the 2nd Amendment.
Firebombs are easy to construct.
Most people will have to take a side, if they can't just lay low and
keeps their mouths shut.

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:12:33 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

"Drifter" wrote in message
b.com...

On 10/14/2011 7:36 PM, X ` Man wrote:

C&P From his favorite news source A.B.


Anyone seen a mission statment from these protesters?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Venting frustration. Understandable, but totally ineffective.
Here's why, IMO:

They are protesting the wrong people and groups. Think about it.
Your CPA or tax return preparer will advise you to take every legal
deduction available to you on your individual tax returns.
Those legal deductions (and legal loopholes) are legislated and determined
by ...... guess who?

Business tax returns and rules governing Wall Street operations are also
subject to legal deductions and loopholes,
legislated and determined by ...... guess who?

The protesters are targeting the wrong groups. The group that should be
protested and voted out of office are the career
politicians in DC who determine and write the rules that individuals, banks,
businesses and Wall Street are subject to.
These corrupt politicians .... on both sides of the political spectrum ....
have established too many IOU's over their "careers"
and have muddied the waters with BS to cast the blame on everyone else other
than themselves.

And we are stupid enough to believe them and continue to re-elect them.

You don't get it. They are protesting the "system."
Part of the system is the Wall Street bought pols getting re-elected.
Where do you get the idea they don't despise the current politicians?
And do you really think most of these people have a CPA, or have enough
income to worry about tax dodges?

What they have is debt and no prospects for a good job.
The protesters have avoided having a political agenda.
That's a good move. Nearly all the pols are bought, so will turn
against them with a vengeance.
For example, 3 new free trade bills just passed Congress a few days ago.
Those trade bills will cost the U.S. hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Who lobbied most for these bills?
Citibank, big pharma, and big agriculture. Wall Street.
Who voted for the bills?
Democrats and Republicans.
The so-called "socialist" President, Obama, will sign them into law.
So we'll soon have Hyundais and other Korean products for sale here that
are produced by North Korean slave labor of Kim Jong-il.
Panama, a premier tax shelter haven, will be able to tax shelter more
U.S. corporations and other wealth with added treaty protections.
The system is broken.

Here's what's going to happen in the not distant future.
As joblessness, despair for a decent future, and wealth disparity become
even more pronounced, the protests will grow.
There will be violence. Blood will flow. Heads will be put on pikes.
It's going to get very nasty.
EVERYBODY in the U.S. is covered by the 2nd Amendment.
Firebombs are easy to construct.
Most people will have to take a side, if they can't just lay low and
keeps their mouths shut.




All those rich fat cats should give a large percent of their money to Obama so he can give it to the
protestors.

Amen.

On 10/15/2011 12:22 PM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:12:33 -0500, Boating All wrote:

In articleyeGdneHVTc32EwTTnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

"Drifter" wrote in message
b.com...

On 10/14/2011 7:36 PM, X ` Man wrote:

C&P From his favorite news source A.B.


Anyone seen a mission statment from these protesters?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
snip
These corrupt politicians .... on both sides of the political spectrum ....
have established too many IOU's over their "careers"
and have muddied the waters with BS to cast the blame on everyone else other
than themselves.

And we are stupid enough to believe them and continue to re-elect them.

You don't get it. They are protesting the "system."
snip
Most people will have to take a side, if they can't just lay low and
keeps their mouths shut.




All those rich fat cats should give a large percent of their money to Obama so he can give it to the
protestors.

Amen.

Can you imagine Krausie laying low and keeping his mouth shut? Neither
can I.

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"Drifter" wrote in message
b.com...

On 10/14/2011 7:36 PM, X ` Man wrote:

C&P From his favorite news source A.B.


Anyone seen a mission statment from these protesters?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Venting frustration. Understandable, but totally ineffective.
Here's why, IMO:

They are protesting the wrong people and groups. Think about it.
Your CPA or tax return preparer will advise you to take every legal
deduction available to you on your individual tax returns.
Those legal deductions (and legal loopholes) are legislated and
determined
by ...... guess who?

Business tax returns and rules governing Wall Street operations are also
subject to legal deductions and loopholes,
legislated and determined by ...... guess who?

The protesters are targeting the wrong groups. The group that should be
protested and voted out of office are the career
politicians in DC who determine and write the rules that individuals,
banks,
businesses and Wall Street are subject to.
These corrupt politicians .... on both sides of the political spectrum
....
have established too many IOU's over their "careers"
and have muddied the waters with BS to cast the blame on everyone else
other
than themselves.

And we are stupid enough to believe them and continue to re-elect them.

You don't get it. They are protesting the "system."
Part of the system is the Wall Street bought pols getting re-elected.
Where do you get the idea they don't despise the current politicians?
And do you really think most of these people have a CPA, or have enough
income to worry about tax dodges?

What they have is debt and no prospects for a good job.
The protesters have avoided having a political agenda.
That's a good move. Nearly all the pols are bought, so will turn
against them with a vengeance.
For example, 3 new free trade bills just passed Congress a few days ago.
Those trade bills will cost the U.S. hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Who lobbied most for these bills?
Citibank, big pharma, and big agriculture. Wall Street.
Who voted for the bills?
Democrats and Republicans.
The so-called "socialist" President, Obama, will sign them into law.
So we'll soon have Hyundais and other Korean products for sale here that
are produced by North Korean slave labor of Kim Jong-il.
Panama, a premier tax shelter haven, will be able to tax shelter more
U.S. corporations and other wealth with added treaty protections.
The system is broken.

I can't agree with you more .... and I *do* get it. I just didn't
emphasize the
Big Business/Wall Street collaboration with the pols enough. The corrupt,
career office holders in DC are the enablers of the so called corporate
greed.
Put some honest people in to replace them and we'll start solving the
problems.

The pols may be bought, but *we* elect them. There are a few on my short
list,
but since it exists on both sides of the fence .... Dems and Republicans
..... I'll
refrain from getting into a debate about specific individuals. Suffice to
say,
the whole Congress needs a major cleanup.

On 10/15/2011 12:12 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In articleyeGdneHVTc32EwTTnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

"Drifter" wrote in message
b.com...

On 10/14/2011 7:36 PM, X ` Man wrote:

C&P From his favorite news source A.B.


Anyone seen a mission statment from these protesters?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Venting frustration. Understandable, but totally ineffective.
Here's why, IMO:

They are protesting the wrong people and groups. Think about it.
Your CPA or tax return preparer will advise you to take every legal
deduction available to you on your individual tax returns.
Those legal deductions (and legal loopholes) are legislated and determined
by ...... guess who?

Business tax returns and rules governing Wall Street operations are also
subject to legal deductions and loopholes,
legislated and determined by ...... guess who?

The protesters are targeting the wrong groups. The group that should be
protested and voted out of office are the career
politicians in DC who determine and write the rules that individuals, banks,
businesses and Wall Street are subject to.
These corrupt politicians .... on both sides of the political spectrum ....
have established too many IOU's over their "careers"
and have muddied the waters with BS to cast the blame on everyone else other
than themselves.

And we are stupid enough to believe them and continue to re-elect them.

You don't get it. They are protesting the "system."
Part of the system is the Wall Street bought pols getting re-elected.
Where do you get the idea they don't despise the current politicians?
And do you really think most of these people have a CPA, or have enough
income to worry about tax dodges?

What they have is debt and no prospects for a good job.
The protesters have avoided having a political agenda.
That's a good move. Nearly all the pols are bought, so will turn
against them with a vengeance.
For example, 3 new free trade bills just passed Congress a few days ago.
Those trade bills will cost the U.S. hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Who lobbied most for these bills?
Citibank, big pharma, and big agriculture. Wall Street.
Who voted for the bills?
Democrats and Republicans.
The so-called "socialist" President, Obama, will sign them into law.
So we'll soon have Hyundais and other Korean products for sale here that
are produced by North Korean slave labor of Kim Jong-il.
Panama, a premier tax shelter haven, will be able to tax shelter more
U.S. corporations and other wealth with added treaty protections.
The system is broken.

Here's what's going to happen in the not distant future.
As joblessness, despair for a decent future, and wealth disparity become
even more pronounced, the protests will grow.
There will be violence. Blood will flow. Heads will be put on pikes.
It's going to get very nasty.
EVERYBODY in the U.S. is covered by the 2nd Amendment.
Firebombs are easy to construct.
Most people will have to take a side, if they can't just lay low and
keeps their mouths shut.





Hope you are wrong but it's what Obama/Islam is praying for.

On 10/15/11 12:36 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"Drifter" wrote in message
b.com...

On 10/14/2011 7:36 PM, X ` Man wrote:

C&P From his favorite news source A.B.


Anyone seen a mission statment from these protesters?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Venting frustration. Understandable, but totally ineffective.
Here's why, IMO:

They are protesting the wrong people and groups. Think about it.
Your CPA or tax return preparer will advise you to take every legal
deduction available to you on your individual tax returns.
Those legal deductions (and legal loopholes) are legislated and
determined
by ...... guess who?

Business tax returns and rules governing Wall Street operations are also
subject to legal deductions and loopholes,
legislated and determined by ...... guess who?

The protesters are targeting the wrong groups. The group that should be
protested and voted out of office are the career
politicians in DC who determine and write the rules that individuals,
banks,
businesses and Wall Street are subject to.
These corrupt politicians .... on both sides of the political
spectrum ....
have established too many IOU's over their "careers"
and have muddied the waters with BS to cast the blame on everyone
else other
than themselves.

And we are stupid enough to believe them and continue to re-elect them.

You don't get it. They are protesting the "system."
Part of the system is the Wall Street bought pols getting re-elected.
Where do you get the idea they don't despise the current politicians?
And do you really think most of these people have a CPA, or have enough
income to worry about tax dodges?

What they have is debt and no prospects for a good job.
The protesters have avoided having a political agenda.
That's a good move. Nearly all the pols are bought, so will turn
against them with a vengeance.
For example, 3 new free trade bills just passed Congress a few days ago.
Those trade bills will cost the U.S. hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Who lobbied most for these bills?
Citibank, big pharma, and big agriculture. Wall Street.
Who voted for the bills?
Democrats and Republicans.
The so-called "socialist" President, Obama, will sign them into law.
So we'll soon have Hyundais and other Korean products for sale here that
are produced by North Korean slave labor of Kim Jong-il.
Panama, a premier tax shelter haven, will be able to tax shelter more
U.S. corporations and other wealth with added treaty protections.
The system is broken.

I can't agree with you more .... and I *do* get it. I just didn't
emphasize the
Big Business/Wall Street collaboration with the pols enough. The corrupt,
career office holders in DC are the enablers of the so called corporate
greed.
Put some honest people in to replace them and we'll start solving the
problems.

The pols may be bought, but *we* elect them. There are a few on my short
list,
but since it exists on both sides of the fence .... Dems and Republicans
.... I'll
refrain from getting into a debate about specific individuals. Suffice
to say,
the whole Congress needs a major cleanup.


50 or so indictments and trials of Wall Street brokerage crooks, banking
crooks, et al, the *big* fish, would have sent out a message.

"X ` Man" wrote in message
...


50 or so indictments and trials of Wall Street brokerage crooks, banking
crooks, et al, the *big* fish, would have sent out a message.

Indictments and trials means laws were broken or have been alledged to have
been broken.
That's the problem. The pols have written the laws that allow the
misbehavior.

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:45:08 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Drifter" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 10/14/2011 7:36 PM, X ` Man wrote:

C&P From his favorite news source A.B.


Anyone seen a mission statment from these protesters?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Venting frustration. Understandable, but totally ineffective.
Here's why, IMO:

They are protesting the wrong people and groups. Think about it.
Your CPA or tax return preparer will advise you to take every legal
deduction available to you on your individual tax returns.
Those legal deductions (and legal loopholes) are legislated and determined
by ...... guess who?

Business tax returns and rules governing Wall Street operations are also
subject to legal deductions and loopholes,
legislated and determined by ...... guess who?

The protesters are targeting the wrong groups. The group that should be
protested and voted out of office are the career
politicians in DC who determine and write the rules that individuals, banks,
businesses and Wall Street are subject to.
These corrupt politicians .... on both sides of the political spectrum ....
have established too many IOU's over their "careers"
and have muddied the waters with BS to cast the blame on everyone else other
than themselves.

And we are stupid enough to believe them and continue to re-elect them.

Just maybe this uprising will help push the idea of campaign finance
and lobbying reform forward. We have a bought congress and they serve
at the beck and call of their supporters.

Wall Street is one of the main players at the table, along with a
number of the largest corporate players. Time for Washington DC to
return to doing the people's business instead of whoring for financial
services who want to bend the rules to suit their bottom line.

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:36:46 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"Drifter" wrote in message
b.com...

On 10/14/2011 7:36 PM, X ` Man wrote:

C&P From his favorite news source A.B.


Anyone seen a mission statment from these protesters?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Venting frustration. Understandable, but totally ineffective.
Here's why, IMO:

They are protesting the wrong people and groups. Think about it.
Your CPA or tax return preparer will advise you to take every legal
deduction available to you on your individual tax returns.
Those legal deductions (and legal loopholes) are legislated and
determined
by ...... guess who?

Business tax returns and rules governing Wall Street operations are also
subject to legal deductions and loopholes,
legislated and determined by ...... guess who?

The protesters are targeting the wrong groups. The group that should be
protested and voted out of office are the career
politicians in DC who determine and write the rules that individuals,
banks,
businesses and Wall Street are subject to.
These corrupt politicians .... on both sides of the political spectrum
....
have established too many IOU's over their "careers"
and have muddied the waters with BS to cast the blame on everyone else
other
than themselves.

And we are stupid enough to believe them and continue to re-elect them.

You don't get it. They are protesting the "system."
Part of the system is the Wall Street bought pols getting re-elected.
Where do you get the idea they don't despise the current politicians?
And do you really think most of these people have a CPA, or have enough
income to worry about tax dodges?

What they have is debt and no prospects for a good job.
The protesters have avoided having a political agenda.
That's a good move. Nearly all the pols are bought, so will turn
against them with a vengeance.
For example, 3 new free trade bills just passed Congress a few days ago.
Those trade bills will cost the U.S. hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Who lobbied most for these bills?
Citibank, big pharma, and big agriculture. Wall Street.
Who voted for the bills?
Democrats and Republicans.
The so-called "socialist" President, Obama, will sign them into law.
So we'll soon have Hyundais and other Korean products for sale here that
are produced by North Korean slave labor of Kim Jong-il.
Panama, a premier tax shelter haven, will be able to tax shelter more
U.S. corporations and other wealth with added treaty protections.
The system is broken.

I can't agree with you more .... and I *do* get it. I just didn't
emphasize the
Big Business/Wall Street collaboration with the pols enough. The corrupt,
career office holders in DC are the enablers of the so called corporate
greed.
Put some honest people in to replace them and we'll start solving the
problems.

The pols may be bought, but *we* elect them. There are a few on my short
list,
but since it exists on both sides of the fence .... Dems and Republicans
.... I'll
refrain from getting into a debate about specific individuals. Suffice to
say,
the whole Congress needs a major cleanup.

It takes money to get elected. That's the problem.

On 15/10/2011 7:25 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 10/14/2011 7:36 PM, X ` Man wrote:

C&P From his favorite news source A.B.


Anyone seen a mission statment from these protesters?

You will hear 20 different speakers all claiming to represent them.
Fleabaggers are a disorganized bunch. Anderson 360 will pick one to
talk from all.

Last I looked, 49% were more like Tea Party types, but media likes to
sideline this.

Best to just call this the rally of the discontent. Surprised we
haven't seen more of this so far. Greece is rolling up on US shores.
Too much debt, corruption and fraud from DC to stop it now.


--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude