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On 9/30/11 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:31:41 -0400, X `
wrote:

You say a "lot" of construction workers shave their heads. Have you done
a study? What percentage shave their heads?

... and maybe you forgot I was an electrical inspector for 8 years


I attend about half of my local union's monthly meetings. We have a lot
of members. There's a lot of male baldness among the older guys, but I'd
guesstimate that less than five per cent of the non-black actives shave
their heads. About a third of the black guys shave their heads.
Most of the black guys look cool with shaved heads. Most of the white
guys who shave their heads look like white supremacists. I also visit at
least three to four commercial construction jobsites each month and see
very few white dudes with shaved heads.

Yeah, right, you've never been on a construction site in your life.
Hell, remember when you tried to tell us that a contractor on a
commercial job made the spiral staircase and you claimed it was done on-
site?!!!!

On 9/30/11 11:45 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:30:17 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 9/30/11 1:15 AM, wrote:

Most places don't even test for alcohol unless it is an accident
investigation. If this is just a random drug screen, you can be
****faced drunk and pass.




If you are "stoned out of your mind" or "****faced drunk," you likely
are not going to be allowed to go to or continue your job the day of the
testing. If you repeatedly show up for work that way, you're going to be
fired.

One would think that was true but we had a minority hire at IBM who
was a smack addict and everyone just assumed he was stupid.
It took almost 3 years to get rid of him and they ended up buying him
out.
When I asked him how he was getting away with it, he said he was
stoned at his interview and they never saw any difference over the
years.

There are plenty of people who drink at work. US Civil service people
spring to mind. They are pretty much fire proof too.
I knew a guy who was selling drugs right at his desk at an agency
down on Western Avenue. Nobody ever questioned how a GS-5 was driving
a new Benz. He was in the mail room so I assume the tax payer was his
shipping department.


Wow...you really have an attitude about construction workers and civil
servants. Your pool of experience, though, seems to be before drug
testing got serious, or on "light" construction jobs.

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On 9/30/2011 12:08 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/30/11 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:31:41 -0400, X `
wrote:

You say a "lot" of construction workers shave their heads. Have you done
a study? What percentage shave their heads?

... and maybe you forgot I was an electrical inspector for 8 years


I attend about half of my local union's monthly meetings. We have a lot
of members. There's a lot of male baldness among the older guys, but I'd
guesstimate that less than five per cent of the non-black actives shave
their heads. About a third of the black guys shave their heads.
Most of the black guys look cool with shaved heads. Most of the white
guys who shave their heads look like white supremacists. I also visit at
least three to four commercial construction jobsites each month and see
very few white dudes with shaved heads.



Dripping with racism. Way to go Krousie boy.

X ` Man wrote:
On 9/30/11 1:15 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:45:09 -0400, X `
wrote:


Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of
date.

This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test.

Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is
different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest.


Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a
construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might
think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule.

True but if you smoke crack on Friday afternoon you will probably
pass the test on Monday.
OTOH if your doctor gives you a prescription for Vicodin you are fine,
no matter what even if you are stoned out of your mind.

That is a real flaw in the drug testing scam.

Most places don't even test for alcohol unless it is an accident
investigation. If this is just a random drug screen, you can be
****faced drunk and pass.

BTW I am surprised you didn't mention the original test law said you
had to be tested in Scott's own lab. That didn't last long.



If you are "stoned out of your mind" or "****faced drunk," you likely
are not going to be allowed to go to or continue your job the day of
the testing. If you repeatedly show up for work that way, you're going
to be fired.


No zero tolerance in the union jobs? That's silly!

-HB

X ` Man wrote:
On 9/30/11 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:31:41 -0400, X `
wrote:

You say a "lot" of construction workers shave their heads. Have you
done
a study? What percentage shave their heads?

... and maybe you forgot I was an electrical inspector for 8 years


I attend about half of my local union's monthly meetings. We have a
lot of members. There's a lot of male baldness among the older guys,
but I'd guesstimate that less than five per cent of the non-black
actives shave their heads. About a third of the black guys shave their
heads.
Most of the black guys look cool with shaved heads. Most of the white
guys who shave their heads look like white supremacists. I also visit
at least three to four commercial construction jobsites each month and
see very few white dudes with shaved heads.




That's ****ed up!

-HB

X ` Man wrote:
On 9/30/11 11:45 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:30:17 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 9/30/11 1:15 AM, wrote:

Most places don't even test for alcohol unless it is an accident
investigation. If this is just a random drug screen, you can be
****faced drunk and pass.




If you are "stoned out of your mind" or "****faced drunk," you likely
are not going to be allowed to go to or continue your job the day of
the
testing. If you repeatedly show up for work that way, you're going
to be
fired.

One would think that was true but we had a minority hire at IBM who
was a smack addict and everyone just assumed he was stupid.
It took almost 3 years to get rid of him and they ended up buying him
out.
When I asked him how he was getting away with it, he said he was
stoned at his interview and they never saw any difference over the
years.

There are plenty of people who drink at work. US Civil service people
spring to mind. They are pretty much fire proof too.
I knew a guy who was selling drugs right at his desk at an agency
down on Western Avenue. Nobody ever questioned how a GS-5 was driving
a new Benz. He was in the mail room so I assume the tax payer was his
shipping department.


Wow...you really have an attitude about construction workers and civil
servants. Your pool of experience, though, seems to be before drug
testing got serious, or on "light" construction jobs.

He seems to avoid the truth. Harry is the biggest A-Hole I've seen here
so far.

-HB

Speaking of drugs in the work force....


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...Name=topNew s

On 9/30/2011 9:54 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 9/30/11 1:15 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:45:09 -0400, X `
wrote:


Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of
date.

This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test.

Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is
different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest.


Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a
construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might
think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule.

True but if you smoke crack on Friday afternoon you will probably
pass the test on Monday.
OTOH if your doctor gives you a prescription for Vicodin you are fine,
no matter what even if you are stoned out of your mind.

That is a real flaw in the drug testing scam.

Most places don't even test for alcohol unless it is an accident
investigation. If this is just a random drug screen, you can be
****faced drunk and pass.

BTW I am surprised you didn't mention the original test law said you
had to be tested in Scott's own lab. That didn't last long.



If you are "stoned out of your mind" or "****faced drunk," you likely
are not going to be allowed to go to or continue your job the day of
the testing. If you repeatedly show up for work that way, you're going
to be fired.


No zero tolerance in the union jobs? That's silly!

-HB

I actually worked with the labor force in the union, I wasn't a union
propagandist like our friend here and I can tell you, the crack pipes
were glowing in the parking lot all night long... At least 50% of the
warehouse workers were either drunk or stoned, each and every night...

On 9/30/2011 10:00 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 9/30/11 11:45 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:30:17 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 9/30/11 1:15 AM, wrote:

Most places don't even test for alcohol unless it is an accident
investigation. If this is just a random drug screen, you can be
****faced drunk and pass.




If you are "stoned out of your mind" or "****faced drunk," you likely
are not going to be allowed to go to or continue your job the day of
the
testing. If you repeatedly show up for work that way, you're going
to be
fired.

One would think that was true but we had a minority hire at IBM who
was a smack addict and everyone just assumed he was stupid.
It took almost 3 years to get rid of him and they ended up buying him
out.
When I asked him how he was getting away with it, he said he was
stoned at his interview and they never saw any difference over the
years.

There are plenty of people who drink at work. US Civil service people
spring to mind. They are pretty much fire proof too.
I knew a guy who was selling drugs right at his desk at an agency
down on Western Avenue. Nobody ever questioned how a GS-5 was driving
a new Benz. He was in the mail room so I assume the tax payer was his
shipping department.


Wow...you really have an attitude about construction workers and civil
servants. Your pool of experience, though, seems to be before drug
testing got serious, or on "light" construction jobs.

He seems to avoid the truth. Harry is the biggest A-Hole I've seen here
so far.

-HB

Remember, he is a paid propagandist for the union, what do you expect
him to say?

On 9/30/2011 11:58 PM, Tim wrote:
Speaking of drugs in the work force....


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...Name=topNew s

Is that a right to work shop, or a closed union daycare???