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In article ,
says...

On 9/29/11 3:42 AM, Eisboch wrote:

"X ` Man" wrote in message
...

...why we are becoming a second-rate nation.

Crumbling infrastructure. Took a road trip on I-95 north and was
appalled at the miserable condition of the main north-south interstate
on the east coast, the bridges and the fact that in most places, it
still is only two lanes on each side. Massive traffic jams, bridges that
look as if they are ready to fail, crumbing surfaces. And our railroads
are in even worse shape.

Meanwhile, countries that take their economies seriously are building
and fixing infrastructure like there's no tomorrow.

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That section of I-95 has been in a state of perpetual repair for as long
as I can remember.
When we used to drive south for the winters one of the worst parts of
the trip was from just north
of the New Haven area down through southern Connecticut and, of course,
through New York.
One of the problems is the amount of daily traffic in that area. The
roads are worn out faster
than they can be repaired. In fact, as I remember, the roads really
didn't get a lot better and
driving a little more relaxing until we got well into Virginia and
points south.

I often took the "long" route via Rt. 84/86. Much longer, but nicer and
more scenic.

Best trip was by boat!

East Haven *to* the NJ Turnpike was pretty grim in terms of disrepair
and traffic, but the entire route demonstrates that our national
priorities have been wrong for a long time. Trillions of dollars on the
military and moronic wars, but not enough on our roads, bridges,
airports, rail systems, power grid, et cetera.

To me, the worst part of I-95, aside from the sections leading to NYC
from the north, is from the Virginia border up north through North
Carolina. The traffic thins out a bit after that, but then it picks up
mightily south of Jacksonville, Florida, to Miami. Too much traffic, not
enough lanes, too many kamikaze truck drivers. too many oversized
campers weaving too and fro.

Near Baltimore, we take the Harbor Tunnel route to I-97, by Thurgood
Marshall Airport, and then just west of Annapolis, we get onto a state
road. Much nicer than taking I-95 to the Beltway.

"is from the Virginia border up north through North Carolina"

You go north from the Virginia border to get to North Carolina???? Been
taking geography lessons from Suckling Don?

JustWait

On 9/29/2011 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articleBvKdnaZbyMrDvBnTnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

"X ` Man" wrote in message
...

...why we are becoming a second-rate nation.

Crumbling infrastructure. Took a road trip on I-95 north and was
appalled at the miserable condition of the main north-south interstate
on the east coast, the bridges and the fact that in most places, it
still is only two lanes on each side. Massive traffic jams, bridges that
look as if they are ready to fail, crumbing surfaces. And our railroads
are in even worse shape.

Meanwhile, countries that take their economies seriously are building
and fixing infrastructure like there's no tomorrow.

------------------------------------------------------

That section of I-95 has been in a state of perpetual repair for as long as
I can remember.
When we used to drive south for the winters one of the worst parts of the
trip was from just north
of the New Haven area down through southern Connecticut and, of course,
through New York.
One of the problems is the amount of daily traffic in that area. The roads
are worn out faster
than they can be repaired. In fact, as I remember, the roads really didn't
get a lot better and
driving a little more relaxing until we got well into Virginia and points
south.

I often took the "long" route via Rt. 84/86. Much longer, but nicer and
more scenic.

Best trip was by boat!

84/86 is a nice way to go. There's lots of factors that cause road
deterioration, like subgrade conditions, freeze/thaw cycles, etc.

Inferior Union labor force working with corrupt companies using cheap
materials...

iBoaterer[_2_]

In article ,
says...

On 9/29/2011 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articleBvKdnaZbyMrDvBnTnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

"X ` Man" wrote in message
...

...why we are becoming a second-rate nation.

Crumbling infrastructure. Took a road trip on I-95 north and was
appalled at the miserable condition of the main north-south interstate
on the east coast, the bridges and the fact that in most places, it
still is only two lanes on each side. Massive traffic jams, bridges that
look as if they are ready to fail, crumbing surfaces. And our railroads
are in even worse shape.

Meanwhile, countries that take their economies seriously are building
and fixing infrastructure like there's no tomorrow.

------------------------------------------------------

That section of I-95 has been in a state of perpetual repair for as long as
I can remember.
When we used to drive south for the winters one of the worst parts of the
trip was from just north
of the New Haven area down through southern Connecticut and, of course,
through New York.
One of the problems is the amount of daily traffic in that area. The roads
are worn out faster
than they can be repaired. In fact, as I remember, the roads really didn't
get a lot better and
driving a little more relaxing until we got well into Virginia and points
south.

I often took the "long" route via Rt. 84/86. Much longer, but nicer and
more scenic.

Best trip was by boat!

84/86 is a nice way to go. There's lots of factors that cause road
deterioration, like subgrade conditions, freeze/thaw cycles, etc.

Inferior Union labor force working with corrupt companies using cheap
materials...

No, unions don't dictate what materials to use. AASHTO does.

iBoaterer[_2_]

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:47:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

south of Jacksonville, Florida, to Miami. Too much traffic, not
enough lanes, too many kamikaze truck drivers. too many oversized
campers weaving too and fro.

That is why we live on the west coast. The east coast of Florida is
just New York city with a beach

Yes! The last time I went to the east coast of Florida, there were more
northern accents than southern!

JustWait

On 9/29/2011 11:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:47:31 -0400, X `
wrote:

south of Jacksonville, Florida, to Miami. Too much traffic, not
enough lanes, too many kamikaze truck drivers. too many oversized
campers weaving too and fro.

That is why we live on the west coast. The east coast of Florida is
just New York city with a beach

Yes! The last time I went to the east coast of Florida, there were more
northern accents than southern!

Since when is Cuban a "northern" accent?

X ` Man

On 9/29/11 11:30 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:47:31 -0400, X `
wrote:

south of Jacksonville, Florida, to Miami. Too much traffic, not
enough lanes, too many kamikaze truck drivers. too many oversized
campers weaving too and fro.

That is why we live on the west coast. The east coast of Florida is
just New York city with a beach

That's absurd.

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

X ` Man

On 9/29/11 11:43 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/29/2011 11:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:47:31 -0400, X `
wrote:

south of Jacksonville, Florida, to Miami. Too much traffic, not
enough lanes, too many kamikaze truck drivers. too many oversized
campers weaving too and fro.

That is why we live on the west coast. The east coast of Florida is
just New York city with a beach

Yes! The last time I went to the east coast of Florida, there were more
northern accents than southern!

Since when is Cuban a "northern" accent?

"Cuban"? Most Cubans speak Spanish. Many Cubans also speak English and
other languages. I'll have to ask my Cuban friends if they speak "Cuban."

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

X ` Man

On 9/29/11 11:49 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/29/11 11:43 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/29/2011 11:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:47:31 -0400, X `
wrote:

south of Jacksonville, Florida, to Miami. Too much traffic, not
enough lanes, too many kamikaze truck drivers. too many oversized
campers weaving too and fro.

That is why we live on the west coast. The east coast of Florida is
just New York city with a beach

Yes! The last time I went to the east coast of Florida, there were more
northern accents than southern!

Since when is Cuban a "northern" accent?

"Cuban"? Most Cubans speak Spanish. Many Cubans also speak English and
other languages. I'll have to ask my Cuban friends if they speak "Cuban."

Note...as with many Carib, Central and South American countries where
Spanish is the predominant language, there are minor pronunciation and
other differences. But...Cubans and Mexicans, for example, have no
problems understanding each other immediately. They all even understand
*my* Spanish.

I happen to know quite a large number of Cubans and Cuban-Americans up
here and in the Miami area. I try to insist we converse in Spanish so I
can improve my meager knowledge of their native language.

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

iBoaterer[_2_]

In article ,
says...

On 9/29/2011 11:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:47:31 -0400, X `
wrote:

south of Jacksonville, Florida, to Miami. Too much traffic, not
enough lanes, too many kamikaze truck drivers. too many oversized
campers weaving too and fro.

That is why we live on the west coast. The east coast of Florida is
just New York city with a beach

Yes! The last time I went to the east coast of Florida, there were more
northern accents than southern!

Since when is Cuban a "northern" accent?

You have to be way south to hear that!

iBoaterer[_2_]

In article ,
says...

On 9/29/11 11:43 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/29/2011 11:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:47:31 -0400, X `
wrote:

south of Jacksonville, Florida, to Miami. Too much traffic, not
enough lanes, too many kamikaze truck drivers. too many oversized
campers weaving too and fro.

That is why we live on the west coast. The east coast of Florida is
just New York city with a beach

Yes! The last time I went to the east coast of Florida, there were more
northern accents than southern!

Since when is Cuban a "northern" accent?

"Cuban"? Most Cubans speak Spanish. Many Cubans also speak English and
other languages. I'll have to ask my Cuban friends if they speak "Cuban."

Yes they do. They have there own dialect. Go ahead, ask.

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