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Kuwait foils smuggling of chemicals, bio warheads from Iraq
Associated Press
Kuwait City, October 2

Kuwaiti security authorities have foiled an attempt to smuggle $60
million worth of chemical weapons and biological warheads from Iraq to an
unnamed European country, a Kuwaiti newspaper said on Wednesday.
The pro-Government Al-Siyassah, quoting an unnamed security source,
said the suspects had been watched by security since they arrived in Kuwait
and were arrested "in due time." It did not say when or how the smugglers
entered Kuwait or when they were arrested.

The paper said the smugglers might have had accomplices inside Kuwait.
It said Interior Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would hand over the
smuggled weapons to an FBI agent at a news conference, but did not say when.

Government officials could not be immediately reached for comment.

Iraqi Interior Minister Nouri Al-Badran met on Tuesday with Sheik
Nawwaf and discussed cooperation between the two countries in security
matters. His visit is the first by an Iraqi interior minister to Kuwait
since 1990.

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"NOYB" wrote in message . com...
Kuwait foils smuggling of chemicals, bio warheads from Iraq
Associated Press
Kuwait City, October 2

Kuwaiti security authorities have foiled an attempt to smuggle $60
million worth of chemical weapons and biological warheads from Iraq to an
unnamed European country, a Kuwaiti newspaper said on Wednesday.
The pro-Government Al-Siyassah, quoting an unnamed security source,
said the suspects had been watched by security since they arrived in Kuwait
and were arrested "in due time." It did not say when or how the smugglers
entered Kuwait or when they were arrested.

The paper said the smugglers might have had accomplices inside Kuwait.
It said Interior Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would hand over the
smuggled weapons to an FBI agent at a news conference, but did not say when.

Government officials could not be immediately reached for comment.

Iraqi Interior Minister Nouri Al-Badran met on Tuesday with Sheik
Nawwaf and discussed cooperation between the two countries in security
matters. His visit is the first by an Iraqi interior minister to Kuwait
since 1990.



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Uh, yeah, sure.

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"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
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Kuwait foils smuggling of chemicals, bio warheads from Iraq
Associated Press
Kuwait City, October 2

Kuwaiti security authorities have foiled an attempt to smuggle $60
million worth of chemical weapons and biological warheads from Iraq to
an
unnamed European country, a Kuwaiti newspaper said on Wednesday.
The pro-Government Al-Siyassah, quoting an unnamed security
source,
said the suspects had been watched by security since they arrived in
Kuwait
and were arrested "in due time." It did not say when or how the
smugglers
entered Kuwait or when they were arrested.

The paper said the smugglers might have had accomplices inside
Kuwait.
It said Interior Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would hand over
the
smuggled weapons to an FBI agent at a news conference, but did not say
when.

Government officials could not be immediately reached for comment.

Iraqi Interior Minister Nouri Al-Badran met on Tuesday with Sheik
Nawwaf and discussed cooperation between the two countries in security
matters. His visit is the first by an Iraqi interior minister to Kuwait
since 1990.



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Uh, yeah, sure.


http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1CF21316

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The paper said the smugglers might have had accomplices inside Kuwait.
It said Interior Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would hand over
the
smuggled weapons to an FBI agent at a news conference, but did not say
when.

My best guess? Two weeks before the general election, 2004.

Kuwait has a favor to return.

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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The paper said the smugglers might have had accomplices inside
Kuwait.
It said Interior Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would hand
over
the
smuggled weapons to an FBI agent at a news conference, but did not say
when.

My best guess? Two weeks before the general election, 2004.

Kuwait has a favor to return.

That's precisely what I was thinking. ;-)

Finding Hussein, bin Laden, or WMD's will cause Bush to peak too early...and
suffer the same fate as his dad.

OT--WMD's found by Kuwait?
 

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The paper said the smugglers might have had accomplices inside Kuwait.
It said Interior Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would hand over
the
smuggled weapons to an FBI agent at a news conference, but did not say
when.

My best guess? Two weeks before the general election, 2004.

Kuwait has a favor to return.

So you agree that there are WOMD to be found.

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So you agree that there are WOMD to be found.

Like everybody else, I'm not in a position to know for an absolute fact.

I have observed the Bush administration's inability to turn up even a single
WMD, in spite of the fact we were assured there were thousands of tons of the
stuff and that we knew where it was.

At the time of the invasion, I was probably 50/50 regarding the existence of
WMD. I am now far, far, far, more skeptical than that. 250,000 troops
searching for thousands of tons of stuff have failed to find an ounce of it,
even though we were assured we know right where to look. At some point, all
reasonable people will begin to conclude the WMD are not there to be found.

Thirty-five years ago, before Nixon proved to us all that presidents can and do
lie publicly and before a number of his successors have elevated the practice
of presidential lying to a new level, I suspect
a few chemical warheads would have turned up under a dusty old tarp in a
warehouse by now. (How they got there would not have been considered important)

The risk of a "phony" find is very high, and people will ask a zillion
questions if and when something turns up. If the find stands up to scrutiny,
Bush will regain some of his tottering credibility. (His tottering credibility
is his own fault, he is the one who asked us all to concentrate on the WMD
issue). If the find is proven to be a fake, Bush is done-done-done. The public
will put aside political differences to turn a proven liar out of office.

My point? Bush's political future depends on any possible find of WMD being
either
absolutely legitimate, or flawlessly staged.
The risk of a fouled phony is so high that we may not see any WMD discovered.

I still say, "If the stuff is there, we need to find it." But more and more, I
believe the stuff is not, and likely never was, there.

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My best guess? Two weeks before the general election, 2004.

Kuwait has a favor to return.

That's precisely what I was thinking. ;-)

Finding Hussein, bin Laden, or WMD's will cause Bush to peak too early...and
suffer the same fate as his dad.


Oh no! Gould and NOYB agree! We better go out and get some fresh air, Doc.

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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
My best guess? Two weeks before the general election, 2004.

Kuwait has a favor to return.

That's precisely what I was thinking. ;-)

Finding Hussein, bin Laden, or WMD's will cause Bush to peak too
early...and
suffer the same fate as his dad.


Oh no! Gould and NOYB agree! We better go out and get some fresh air, Doc.

Always do...the nitrous floating around the office gets to me after awhile.
;-)

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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
So you agree that there are WOMD to be found.

Like everybody else, I'm not in a position to know for an absolute fact.

I have observed the Bush administration's inability to turn up even a
single
WMD, in spite of the fact we were assured there were thousands of tons of
the
stuff and that we knew where it was.

At the time of the invasion, I was probably 50/50 regarding the existence
of
WMD. I am now far, far, far, more skeptical than that. 250,000 troops
searching for thousands of tons of stuff have failed to find an ounce of
it,
even though we were assured we know right where to look. At some point,
all
reasonable people will begin to conclude the WMD are not there to be
found.

Not *there* to be found...with the stress on *there*. There are many signs
that they had been moved to Syria...and, now, apparently Kuwait.

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"NOYB" wrote in message news:MMVeb.5749
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1CF21316


Now, let's see. The ONLY news source is a haphazard one at best?
Close to the elections when Bush's ratings are dropping like a rock?
When the U.S. government officials are meeting behind closed doors to
figure out just how to spin the fact that there ARE no weapons of mass
destruction?
Where ARE these weapons that they've gotten?

If it were true at all, the republicans would have this smeared all
over every paper, every TV in the U.S. and you know it.

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Stalker! Quit following me...


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message news:MMVeb.5749
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1CF21316


Now, let's see. The ONLY news source is a haphazard one at best?
Close to the elections when Bush's ratings are dropping like a rock?
When the U.S. government officials are meeting behind closed doors to
figure out just how to spin the fact that there ARE no weapons of mass
destruction?
Where ARE these weapons that they've gotten?

If it were true at all, the republicans would have this smeared all
over every paper, every TV in the U.S. and you know it.

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basskisser wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message . com...
Kuwait foils smuggling of chemicals, bio warheads from Iraq
Associated Press
Kuwait City, October 2

Kuwaiti security authorities have foiled an attempt to smuggle $60
million worth of chemical weapons and biological warheads from Iraq to an
unnamed European country, a Kuwaiti newspaper said on Wednesday.
The pro-Government Al-Siyassah, quoting an unnamed security source,
said the suspects had been watched by security since they arrived in Kuwait
and were arrested "in due time." It did not say when or how the smugglers
entered Kuwait or when they were arrested.

The paper said the smugglers might have had accomplices inside Kuwait.
It said Interior Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would hand over the
smuggled weapons to an FBI agent at a news conference, but did not say when.

Government officials could not be immediately reached for comment.

Iraqi Interior Minister Nouri Al-Badran met on Tuesday with Sheik
Nawwaf and discussed cooperation between the two countries in security
matters. His visit is the first by an Iraqi interior minister to Kuwait
since 1990.



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Uh, yeah, sure.


Hehehe. The Kuwaitis. The paragons of truth and virtue. BTW, I believe
this is the Al Sabah family member who lived down the hall from me while
I pursued my B.A. He was studying petrol engineering. But maybe not.

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Gould 0738 wrote:
The paper said the smugglers might have had accomplices inside Kuwait.
It said Interior Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would hand over
the
smuggled weapons to an FBI agent at a news conference, but did not say
when.

My best guess? Two weeks before the general election, 2004.

Kuwait has a favor to return.

I hear the Bush Administration is scouring old military warehouses in
the US to find the right items to fly over to Iraq and "plant."

Seriously, at this point, most Americans aren't going to believe the
sudden discovery of WMD. Especially if the U.S. military finds them, as
that institution has a well-deserved rep for lying and obfuscation.


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gould 0738 wrote:
The paper said the smugglers might have had accomplices inside Kuwait.
It said Interior Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would hand over
the
smuggled weapons to an FBI agent at a news conference, but did not say
when.

My best guess? Two weeks before the general election, 2004.

Kuwait has a favor to return.

I hear the Bush Administration is scouring old military warehouses in
the US to find the right items to fly over to Iraq and "plant."

Seriously, at this point, most Americans aren't going to believe the
sudden discovery of WMD. Especially if the U.S. military finds them, as
that institution has a well-deserved rep for lying and obfuscation.



He-he-he. The spin begins. I love it.

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"Jim -" wrote in message
news:fG2fb.664973$Ho3.137904@sccrnsc03...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gould 0738 wrote:
The paper said the smugglers might have had accomplices inside
Kuwait.
It said Interior Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would hand
over
the
smuggled weapons to an FBI agent at a news conference, but did not
say
when.

My best guess? Two weeks before the general election, 2004.

Kuwait has a favor to return.

I hear the Bush Administration is scouring old military warehouses in
the US to find the right items to fly over to Iraq and "plant."

Seriously, at this point, most Americans aren't going to believe the
sudden discovery of WMD. Especially if the U.S. military finds them, as
that institution has a well-deserved rep for lying and obfuscation.



He-he-he. The spin begins. I love it.


Agent Orange is NOT affecting our troops.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
My best guess? Two weeks before the general election, 2004.

Kuwait has a favor to return.

That's precisely what I was thinking. ;-)

Finding Hussein, bin Laden, or WMD's will cause Bush to peak too
early...and
suffer the same fate as his dad.


Oh no! Gould and NOYB agree! We better go out and get some fresh air,
Doc.

Always do...the nitrous floating around the office gets to me after
awhile.
;-)

Maybe you can interest Rush in some nitrous. He's one of your neighbors I
hear.

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Harry Krause wrote in message ...
Gould 0738 wrote:
The paper said the smugglers might have had accomplices inside Kuwait.
It said Interior Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would hand over
the
smuggled weapons to an FBI agent at a news conference, but did not say
when.

My best guess? Two weeks before the general election, 2004.

Kuwait has a favor to return.

I hear the Bush Administration is scouring old military warehouses in
the US to find the right items to fly over to Iraq and "plant."

Seriously, at this point, most Americans aren't going to believe the
sudden discovery of WMD. Especially if the U.S. military finds them, as
that institution has a well-deserved rep for lying and obfuscation.

Exactly. ANYBODY, who wasn't a goose-stepping mind-numb republican
would be skeptical of a sudden discovery of WMD.

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"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net...
Stalker! Quit following me...


Uh, yeah, sure, idiot. You just hate when somebody asks you for some
real evidence when you make purely speculatory statements.

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"Jim -" wrote in message news:SAXeb.482220
So you agree that there are WOMD to be found.

I don't. Did you perhaps happen to hear about the behind closed doors
meeting? Here is an article from the Washington Post:

Washington -- After searching for nearly six months, U.S. forces and
CIA experts have found no chemical or biological weapons in Iraq and
have determined that Iraq's nuclear program was in only "the very most
rudimentary" state, the Bush administration's chief investigator
formally told Congress Thursday.

Before the war, the administration said Iraq had a well-developed
nuclear program that presented a threat to the United States.

Now, "It clearly does not look like a massive, resurgent program,
based on what we discovered," former U.N. weapons inspector David Kay,
who heads the government's search, said Thursday after briefing House
and Senate intelligence committees in a closed session on his interim
report.

He said he would need six to nine months to conclude his work, and
congressional sources said the administration was requesting an
additional $600 million toward the effort to find weapons of mass
destruction. Kay's team has already spent $300 million.

Kay, who heads the CIA's 1,400-person Iraq Survey Group, said the team
had "discovered dozens of WMD-related program activities and
significant amounts of equipment" that Iraq had hidden. He said he
believed "there was an intent . . . to continue production at some
point in time."

Among the evidence unearthed was a network of laboratories and safe
houses, a laboratory complex hidden in a prison and evidence of a
program for ballistic and land-attack missiles with ranges prohibited
by the United Nations.

After Kay's briefing, lawmakers from both parties criticized the
intelligence community for misreading the facts on the ground, and
some said they believed the administration had misled the public about
the threat Iraq posed.

"I'm not pleased by what I heard today," said Sen. Pat Roberts,
R-Kan., chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, who
has been supportive of the administration and the CIA. Roberts said he
believed some of the raw intelligence did not support the
administration's prewar statements about Iraq's weapons of mass
destruction and called some of the claims "sloppy. "

Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Walnut Creek, emerged from Kay's briefing
charging that her "sorriest suspicions" had been confirmed.

The United States and much of the world "fell for one of the biggest
scams of mankind," Tauscher said, who added that she had left the
meeting with the impression that Iraq never posed an imminent threat.

"Clearly, our administration puffed-up, cherry-picked and amplified --
held on like a desperate dog to a bone in their teeth -- any piece of
information they could that substantiated their predisposition to
believing the worst," Tauscher said. "Now, we find out not only that
we may not have a smoking gun, we may not even have a gun."

Tauscher called for an international team of inspectors to take over
the weapons search in Iraq.

In a separate but related matter, CIA Director George Tenet this week
sent an angry letter to the two top House intelligence committee
members to dispute as misguided and ill-informed their criticism of
the raw intelligence used to assess the threat from Iraq.

"The suggestion by the committee that we did not challenge
long-standing judgments and assessments is simply wrong," Tenet, a
former Capitol Hill intelligence panel aide known for his smooth
dealings with members of Congress,

said in a letter to chairman Porter Goss, R-Fla., of the Permanent
Select Committee on Intelligence, and ranking member Jane Harman, D-El
Segundo.

He was responding to a letter the two had sent him last week, after
their panel examined 19 volumes of data underlying the assessment that
Iraq posed a threat to the United States. The letter called the
information outdated, circumstantial and fragmentary and criticized
the CIA for not adequately vetting information or challenging some of
its long-held assumptions.

Kay said his search was hindered by what appeared to be the
destruction and looting of laboratories and archival records areas,
including the destruction of selective computer hard drives as late as
May. Inspectors found "small piles of ash where individual documents
or binders of documents were intentionally destroyed," he said.

The team, Kay said, found evidence of new research on biological
weapons agents, one biological organism concealed in a scientist's
home that could be used to produce biological weapons, and labs with
the capability to "surge the production of (biological) agents"
quickly.

Kay described the two mobile labs discovered after the war ended in
northern Iraq -- which President Bush once said confirmed that Hussein
possessed programs for weapons of mass destruction -- as not being
"ideally suited" for that use. "We have not yet been able to
corroborate the existence of a mobile BW (biological weapons)
production effort," the report states.

Kay said investigators had developed anecdotal information that
Hussein once asked military officials how long it would take to
produce chemical agents and weapons, and that one of Hussein's sons
had asked in mid-2002 how he could get chemical materials for his
special troops, known as Fedayeen Saddam.

The survey has begun looking at equipment that could be used to resume
chemical production, Kay said. He also indicated that there were leads
on other purchases and attempted purchases of chemical agents. He said
many scientists said Iraq did not have "a large, ongoing, centrally
controlled (chemical) weapons program after 1991." That finding
conflicts with a finding in the intelligence community's October 2002
National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) that it was active.

Kay said Hussein wanted to obtain nuclear weapons, according to
interviews with Iraqi scientists and government officials, but "to
date we have not uncovered evidence that Iraq undertook significant
post-1998 steps to actually build nuclear weapons or produce fissile
material."

On Oct. 7, 2002, President Bush said that "the evidence indicates that
Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. . . . Facing clear
evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun
that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."

Kay said his team's major discoveries were in the area of missile
development. It found plans for building missiles that could travel up
to 1, 000 kilometers, far more than the 150 kilometers allowed under
United Nations restrictions.

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Maybe you can interest Rush in some nitrous. He's one of your neighbors I
hear.


How incredibly disappointing. I disagree with every word that falls out of
Limbaugh's face, but I have come to admire his ability to manipulate the herd
and his profound effect on public opinion. There hasn't been anybody of his
caliber in his dubious profession since the 40's. He has slickism and double
speak down to a refined science, and millions of people lapping it up like
divine revelations.

Discovering that he has been (accused of being) a doped up junkie all this time
is like finding out that Satan doesn't really glow in the dark unless he's
plugged into a 220-volt outlet. Aw heck. You want the bad guys to be
genuine......it makes it easier to identify just where the "axis of evil"
(phrase stolen shamelessly from Fearless Leader) might be. Bummer.

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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Maybe you can interest Rush in some nitrous. He's one of your neighbors
I
hear.

How incredibly disappointing. I disagree with every word that falls out of
Limbaugh's face, but I have come to admire his ability to manipulate the
herd
and his profound effect on public opinion. There hasn't been anybody of
his
caliber in his dubious profession since the 40's. He has slickism and
double
speak down to a refined science, and millions of people lapping it up like
divine revelations.

Discovering that he has been (accused of being) a doped up junkie all this
time
is like finding out that Satan doesn't really glow in the dark unless he's
plugged into a 220-volt outlet. Aw heck. You want the bad guys to be
genuine......it makes it easier to identify just where the "axis of evil"
(phrase stolen shamelessly from Fearless Leader) might be. Bummer.


Ever wondered why he talks like a brash drunk but doesn't slur? I think
we've got the answer!

Knowing what this guy does for a living, it's no surprise he medicates
himself.

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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Maybe you can interest Rush in some nitrous. He's one of your neighbors
I
hear.


How incredibly disappointing. I disagree with every word that falls out of
Limbaugh's face, but I have come to admire his ability to manipulate the
herd
and his profound effect on public opinion. There hasn't been anybody of
his
caliber in his dubious profession since the 40's. He has slickism and
double
speak down to a refined science, and millions of people lapping it up like
divine revelations.

Discovering that he has been (accused of being) a doped up junkie all this
time
is like finding out that Satan doesn't really glow in the dark unless he's
plugged into a 220-volt outlet. Aw heck. You want the bad guys to be
genuine

What's more genuine than someone with an addiction to oxycodone? You can't
imagine how many weekend calls I get from "patients" trying to get
percocets, percodans, vicodin, darvocet, etc. Last I heard, Percocets were
selling upwards of $6/pill on the street.

I hardly ever write a narcotic...and never a schedule II like percocet.
Even in people that don't have non-addictive personalities, they can get you
hooked. Hydrocodone was Brett Favre's drug of choice.

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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Maybe you can interest Rush in some nitrous. He's one of your neighbors I
hear.


How incredibly disappointing. I disagree with every word that falls out of
Limbaugh's face, ....


Wow, what an open minded person you are. Nothing but partisan politics for you I see.

Back to the topic. What Rush said was certainly not racist. It was politically
incorrect but not racist.

BTW: How about these gems for examples of double standards:

1. Dusty Baker, Chicago Cubs Manager - On Saturday, July 5, 2003, Dusty Baker made his
opinion on the "day vs. night" controversy publicly known: "Personally, I like to play
in the heat," Dusty said. "Most Latin people and minority people do. You don't find too
many brothers from New Hampshire or Maine, right? We were brought over here because we
could work in the heat. Isn't that history? Your skin color is more conducive to heat
than it is to the lighter-skinned people. I don't see brothers running around burnt.
That's a fact. I'm not making this up. I'm not seeing some brothers walking around with
some white stuff on their ears and noses.''

Status - No actions by the media or MLB or apologies from him. He is still the Cub's
manager

2. Jimmy "The Greek" Snyder - he says the black athlete is "bred to be the better
athlete because, this goes all the way to the Civil War when ... the slave owner would
breed his big woman so that he would have a big black kid." Snyder later apologizes for
the comments.

Status - immediately fired by CBS

3. Fuzzy Zeller on Tiger Woods - "That little boy is driving well and he's putting
well. He's doing everything it takes to win. So, you know what you guys do when he gets
in here? You pat him on the back and say congratulations and enjoy it and tell him not
to serve fried chicken next year. Got it? Or collard greens or whatever the hell they
serve."

Status - severely reprimanded by the media and the PGA. K-Mart fires him as a
spokesman.

4. Shaquille O'Neal, center for the Los Angeles Lakers of the National Basketball
Association. On June 28, 2002, he made the following comments, "Tell Yao Ming,
ching-chong-yang-wah-ah-soh" and the comments were replayed several times on Fox Sports
Radio's Tony Bruno Morning Extravaganza on December 16 and 17, 2002.

Status - No actions by the media or NBA or apologies from him.

5. Earl Woods, father of Tiger Woods. Earl said this about Scotland: "That's for white
people. It's the heart of golf for people who came from there. It sucks as far as I'm
concerned. It is the sorriest weather and I've made the public statement that people
had better be happy that the Scots lived there instead of soul brothers. The game of
golf would have never been invented. We would have been inside listening to jazz and we
wouldn't have been stupid enough to go out in that weather and play a silly-#%^*! game
and freeze yourself to death. We would have been inside laughing and joking with rum
and stuff. Now, Africa ... I played golf in Africa and I knew I was home."

Status - No actions by the media or PGA or apologies from him.

6. Al Campanis, LA Dogers manager in 1987. During an April 1987 television interview on
Nightline, said, among other things, that blacks "may not have some of the necessities
to be . . . a field manager or . . . a general manager."

Status - fired

7. Howard Cosell, sports announcer for ABC sports. In 1983, during a broadcast of
Monday Night Football he exclaimed, "Look at that little monkey run!" about Washington
Redskins receiver Alvin Garrett, an African American.

Status - Cosell resigned two months later, following intense public outcry.

8. Julian Bond, NAACP Executive. Although he didn't use the word "Republicans" in his
remarks before the 94th annual NAACP convention in Miami Beach, he left little to doubt
that's who he meant, referring to those who control the White House, the Congress and
the Supreme Court.

"They preach racial neutrality and practice racial division," he said. "(T)heir idea of
reparations is to give war criminal Jefferson Davis a pardon. Their idea of equal
rights is the American flag and Confederate swastika flying side by side."

Status - no actions taken

9. Harry Belafonte - he recently likened Secretary of State Colin Powell to a "slave
permitted to come into the house of the master."

Status - no actions taken

10. Donna Brazile, Democratic political. She was promoted by Gore to shake up his
sagging presidential bid and claimed in an interview that the GOP was only interested
in photo ops for blacks and suggested Watts and Powell were being used. "They'd rather
take pictures with black children than feed them," Brazile added.

Status - no actions taken

11. Jesse Jackson, calling New York City "Hymietown"

Status - no actions taken

12. Sen. Robert Byrd, a member of the KKK stating "There are white ******s. I've seen
a lot of white ******s in my time. I'm going to use that word."

Status - no actions taken

13. Senator Trent Lott, said to Strom Thurmond's birthday audience "I want to say
this about my state. When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're
proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had
all these problems over all these years, either."

Status - Forced to step down.

Do you see a pattern here?

And I could continue. The list goes on, all showing double standards.

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Doc,
I have this problem with my molar, can you email me a prescription for
percocets, percodans, vicodin and darvocet?

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Maybe you can interest Rush in some nitrous. He's one of your
neighbors
I
hear.


How incredibly disappointing. I disagree with every word that falls out
of
Limbaugh's face, but I have come to admire his ability to manipulate the
herd
and his profound effect on public opinion. There hasn't been anybody of
his
caliber in his dubious profession since the 40's. He has slickism and
double
speak down to a refined science, and millions of people lapping it up
like
divine revelations.

Discovering that he has been (accused of being) a doped up junkie all
this
time
is like finding out that Satan doesn't really glow in the dark unless
he's
plugged into a 220-volt outlet. Aw heck. You want the bad guys to be
genuine

What's more genuine than someone with an addiction to oxycodone? You
can't
imagine how many weekend calls I get from "patients" trying to get
percocets, percodans, vicodin, darvocet, etc. Last I heard, Percocets
were
selling upwards of $6/pill on the street.

I hardly ever write a narcotic...and never a schedule II like percocet.
Even in people that don't have non-addictive personalities, they can get
you
hooked. Hydrocodone was Brett Favre's drug of choice.

OT--WMD's found by Kuwait?
 

Now that's the first internet request that I've gotten.

Ask Harry's wife. She treats people like you. Many people think that's how
she met Harry.







": o )======~~~~" wrote in message
news:bXlfb.669079$YN5.521611@sccrnsc01...
Doc,
I have this problem with my molar, can you email me a prescription for
percocets, percodans, vicodin and darvocet?

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Maybe you can interest Rush in some nitrous. He's one of your
neighbors
I
hear.


How incredibly disappointing. I disagree with every word that falls
out
of
Limbaugh's face, but I have come to admire his ability to manipulate
the
herd
and his profound effect on public opinion. There hasn't been anybody
of
his
caliber in his dubious profession since the 40's. He has slickism and
double
speak down to a refined science, and millions of people lapping it up
like
divine revelations.

Discovering that he has been (accused of being) a doped up junkie all
this
time
is like finding out that Satan doesn't really glow in the dark unless
he's
plugged into a 220-volt outlet. Aw heck. You want the bad guys to be
genuine

What's more genuine than someone with an addiction to oxycodone? You
can't
imagine how many weekend calls I get from "patients" trying to get
percocets, percodans, vicodin, darvocet, etc. Last I heard, Percocets
were
selling upwards of $6/pill on the street.

I hardly ever write a narcotic...and never a schedule II like percocet.
Even in people that don't have non-addictive personalities, they can get
you
hooked. Hydrocodone was Brett Favre's drug of choice.

OT--WMD's found by Kuwait?
 

NOYB wrote:

Now that's the first internet request that I've gotten.

Ask Harry's wife. She treats people like you. Many people think that's how
she met Harry.


Naw. Besides, I don't *do* those kinds of drugs, and, in fact, rarely
drink alcoholic beverages. I bought a six pack of beer in June and in
cleaning out the refrigerator over the weekend, I noticed that three of
them were still in there.
--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Now that's the first internet request that I've gotten.

Ask Harry's wife. She treats people like you. Many people think that's how
she met Harry.


Naw. Besides, I don't *do* those kinds of drugs, and, in fact, rarely
drink alcoholic beverages. I bought a six pack of beer in June and in
cleaning out the refrigerator over the weekend, I noticed that three of
them were still in there.
--


So I guess we can rule out booze as the source of your delusions.

Maybe it is the other type of drugs you admit to doing.

Either that or your parents severely abused you when you were a child. ;-)

OT--WMD's found by Kuwait?
 

He's from West Palm Beach...which is the other coast. In case you don't
remember, that's the side that couldn't figure out how to work a punch
ballot. We had no such problems with the same ballots on *our* side of the
state.




"jps" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
My best guess? Two weeks before the general election, 2004.

Kuwait has a favor to return.

That's precisely what I was thinking. ;-)

Finding Hussein, bin Laden, or WMD's will cause Bush to peak too
early...and
suffer the same fate as his dad.


Oh no! Gould and NOYB agree! We better go out and get some fresh air,
Doc.

Always do...the nitrous floating around the office gets to me after
awhile.
;-)

Maybe you can interest Rush in some nitrous. He's one of your neighbors I
hear.

OT--WMD's found by Kuwait?
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
...
He's from West Palm Beach...which is the other coast. In case you don't
remember, that's the side that couldn't figure out how to work a punch
ballot. We had no such problems with the same ballots on *our* side of
the
state.

Yeah, that's cause they were all prepunched for Bush. No problem for your
little berg.

OT--WMD's found by Kuwait?
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
...
He's from West Palm Beach...which is the other coast. In case you don't
remember, that's the side that couldn't figure out how to work a punch
ballot. We had no such problems with the same ballots on *our* side of
the
state.

snip

Really?

Were your machines mantained just as poorly?
Are years worth of chad allowed to build up until the stylus is not able to
be fully punched through the card?
If the answer is that your machines *are* well maintained, why was there a
difference?

Mark Browne

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"Mark Browne" wrote in message
. net...

"NOYB" wrote in message
...
He's from West Palm Beach...which is the other coast. In case you don't
remember, that's the side that couldn't figure out how to work a punch
ballot. We had no such problems with the same ballots on *our* side of
the
state.

snip

Really?

Were your machines mantained just as poorly?
Are years worth of chad allowed to build up until the stylus is not able
to
be fully punched through the card?
If the answer is that your machines *are* well maintained, why was there a
difference?


Because we were smart enough to select a Republican election board?

OT--WMD's found by Kuwait?
 

He's from West Palm Beach...which is the other coast. In case you don't
remember, that's the side that couldn't figure out how to work a punch
ballot. We had no such problems with the same ballots on *our* side of the
state.

Of course not. The way those FLA ballots worked, almost any vote cast for a
whole slug of candidates turned out to be a vote for Bush. Since everybody you
would consent to speak to would be voting for Bush *anyway*, the difference
would never show up! :-)

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Why am I not surprised at your condescending holier-than-thou attitude?

All hail Gould and his minions, the "True Way".


Why am I not surprised that you snipped all the comments where I said that I
admired Limaugh, in a wierd sort of way, just to support your standard,
one-line insult.

Gould's "minions"? I don't think so. The wife is certainly independent enough.
I can get my big black cat to do my bidding, provided my bidding corresponds
with what he had in mind to do in the first place. If I count the cat, I'm up
to only a single "minion". Not very impressive, compared to Rush. :-)

Why am I not surprised at your condescending holier-than-thou attitude?

All hail Gould and his minions, the "True Way".

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Wow, what an open minded person you are. Nothing but partisan politics for
you I see.

Back to the topic. What Rush said was certainly not racist. It was
politically
incorrect but not racist.

Jim, I'm not referring to the Donovan McNabb comment. Most of the comments Rush
makes are just a whacky, only his audience is so emotionally invested they
don't recognize the manipulative techniques he's using.

I'm disappointed in the fact that there is enough evidence to allege that Rush
Limbaugh has a serious addiction to narcotics. Big time. Not that unusual for
an "entertainer" (which is what he is, kind of like WWF- there are folks who
think it's real) but out of character for a guy who has spent probably a
thousand hours on the air blasting away at drug addicts and junkies.

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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Wow, what an open minded person you are. Nothing but partisan politics for
you I see.

Back to the topic. What Rush said was certainly not racist. It was
politically
incorrect but not racist.

Jim, I'm not referring to the Donovan McNabb comment. Most of the comments Rush
makes are just a whacky, only his audience is so emotionally invested they
don't recognize the manipulative techniques he's using.

I'm disappointed in the fact that there is enough evidence to allege that Rush
Limbaugh has a serious addiction to narcotics. Big time. Not that unusual for
an "entertainer" (which is what he is, kind of like WWF- there are folks who
think it's real) but out of character for a guy who has spent probably a
thousand hours on the air blasting away at drug addicts and junkies.



I would like to hear the other side of the story. If, in the end, the facts show him
to be a drug junkie I will agree with you 100% and say that he should retire in
disgrace.

On another note I also think that the partisan view of Arnold (as previously stated) is
wrong. The guy is an admitted sexual offender and has no place in politics.

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I would like to hear the other side of the story. If, in the end, the facts
show him
to be a drug junkie I will agree with you 100% and say that he should retire
in
disgrace.

We've got to stop agreeing like this. Third or fourth time this year! People
will talk. :-)

OT--WMD's found by Kuwait?
 

Gould 0738 wrote:

I'm disappointed in the fact that there is enough evidence to allege that Rush
Limbaugh has a serious addiction to narcotics. Big time. Not that unusual for
an "entertainer" (which is what he is, kind of like WWF- there are folks who
think it's real) but out of character for a guy who has spent probably a
thousand hours on the air blasting away at drug addicts and junkies.


Why the disappointment? Surely you were aware Limbaugh and the trash in
his audience were hypocrites.

--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.

OT--WMD's found by Kuwait?
 

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
I would like to hear the other side of the story. If, in the end, the facts
show him
to be a drug junkie I will agree with you 100% and say that he should retire
in
disgrace.

We've got to stop agreeing like this. Third or fourth time this year! People
will talk. :-)

Yep. ;-)

OT--WMD's found by Kuwait?
 

Why the disappointment? Surely you were aware Limbaugh and the trash in
his audience were hypocrites.

I don't know that many right wing dopers.
Drunks, yes. By the ton......but I'm just more used to alcohol being the drug
of choice among conservatives. One is accustomed to falling down drunks wailing
about "drug abusers", (not that everybody who does so is a drunk, of course).
If the allegations against Rush's narctoic addiction prove to be true, that's
not only hypocritical- it should be considered a breach of trust by every one
of his followers.

The buzz on one of our local talk stations was pretty funny tonight. One
station has a mix of moderate and conservative hosts.
A conservative host was running a monologue about the RL drug scandal, and I
laughed so hard I almost wrecked the car!
General line: "The liberals are showing their true colors with this Rush
Limbaugh situation. They are willing to use this weakness to try to destroy his
career! His political enemies are sinking so low, they are trying to distract
us with this single factor and ignore the majority of what Limbaugh stands for
and what he has done! It will backfire on them. The public doesn't like a witch
hunt!"

Thoughts of Monica-Gate and $60mm spent by Ken Starr trying to dig up dirt on
another well known political persona in the past came immediately to mind. I
guess is
low and dirty if the target is a conservative, but an act of patriotism
preserving national security when the target is a moderate or a liberal. :-)