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JustWait September 15th 11 01:09 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/14/2011 2:27 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 9/14/2011 2:06 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:02:25 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:24:52 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:06:24 -0400,
wrote:




OK I apologize, "all over the place" confused me. If you mean all over
the inside of the bar, yes the bartender or the manager if they have
one will enforce the smoking regulations or any other rules in that
bar. If it is a tough place they also have bouncers..

I still don't get your question

I hope you're wife is going to pay them extra for their extra effort.
I can just imagine bartenders chasing after smokers... around and
around the table. In the mean time, everyone else gets to breathe the
smoke.

Are you really that stupid or are you just trolling again?

The easy way bartenders have to restore order is to cut off the
offender and ban them from coming back.
.


So, I'm both stupid and a Nazi?

How do you prevent the smoker from getting into the non-smoking
section? What if they don't stub out the cig? How long do I have to
sit there waiting for the cops to show up after the person refuses to
leave?


Do you expect Greg to do your research for you?
You could get your fat ass up out of your chair and take matters into
your own hands. There's plenty of options for you to choose from.


She is just being an idiot....

JustWait September 15th 11 01:14 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/14/2011 2:15 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:48:14 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 9/14/11 1:06 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:28:10 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:19:09 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:55:24 -0700,
wrote:

It is only disruptive if we have nazis like you and Harry are there.
As you pointed out, it is not necessarily illegal to smoke in a bar in
Florida anyway. It all depends on what kind of license they have.
If it is a restaurant that serves liquor it is illegal. If it is a bar
that serves food (AKA a cocktail lounge with a class A license) it is
up to the county.
By a like token, if it is a tobacco store with a liquor license (a
cigar bar) it is legal too.



Oh, I'm a Nazi. Thanks for clarifying! So, it's not necessarily
illegal, but you don't like ANY restrictions on YOUR rights, and to
hell with anyone else.

I support everyone's rights.

So, define MY rights to not be around a carcinogenic cloud. How do I
avoid one in a restaurant. I'm seated. Some guy waltz' in from the
smoking section, and puffs away. I'm supposed to do what? Wait for the
bouncer? Leave myself?

Yes leave, please.
If enough people did that the owner would ban smoking or he would have
a smoking restaurant and you and Harry would never come in.

Nobody is holding a gun to your head and making you come in.



Owners of cheesy restaurants probably like a facility where smoking is
allowed, because it'll help conceal poor ingredients in and bad
preparation of the food. Why bother when the patrons can't smell or
taste what is served?


Show the *******s, don't go there.
This is a problem that the market can easily deal with.
If every non smoker boycotted "smoking allowed" places the market
would decide how many restaurants your cohort will support.
Unfortunately it may not be as big a number as you want to accept.

around 20% of Americans admit they smoke in surveys but sales numbers
seem to imply that number might be closer to 35-40%. I know a lot of
"non-smokers" who still smoke. You only have to look at the White
House to see that.

I do notice that the most vehement anti smoker evangelicals are former
smokers themselves who can't stand being around smoke because they
fear that they do not have the will power to resist sparking one up.

I will agree with anyone who says this is a drug addiction and it may
be harder to kick than heroin. That explains the number of people who
are hooked on the gum. (another disgusting habit). The people who
clean up the country club would much rather vacuum up a few cigarette
butts than to be scraping gum up out of the carpet and off the bottom
of the tables.


I was in my early twenties when my friend was running a AA meetings and
such. He always told me the worst hypocrites were ex drinkers who
preached to others to quit as if they were special or better "just
because they quit doing something they shouldn't have been doing in the
first place"... He was right of course.

Honey Badger[_4_] September 15th 11 01:41 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
Drifter wrote:
On 9/13/2011 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:37:36 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:27 pm, X ` wrote:
On 9/13/11 7:46 PM, BAR wrote:









In articleR5GdnR9K0vwK2PLTnZ2dnUVZ_sWdn...@earthlink .com,
says...

On 9/13/11 7:55 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,
says...

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:59:07 -0700, wrote:

The same technology? You want to mandate restaurants to have
a glassed
in section with it's own air system??

If they did, would you be happy? I thought not.
They have even offered to have two separate buildings, with
the same
food and the same ambiance ... nope. not good enough.
Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings
because they
think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun
people.

I was just at a party in a restaurant.
After eating we smokers all went outside for a smoke.
Some non-smokers tagged along to avoid boredom.
Left about 2/3 of the party sitting there twiddling their thumbs.
They sat in dumb silence until we got back.
Then the party resumed.
Anti-smokers are often a sad lot.
Walk around all their lives with a stick up their ass just to
live a few
more years of their uptight misery.
Pretty sad. Some are okay. They usually do other drugs.

My argument all along. A longer life expectancy is the reward for a
dull, very dull life.

Gotta love the rationalizations of the simple-minded.

I watched my great-grandmother sit in a chair in my grandmother's
living
room for 15 years. She watched TV, ate and slept. I don't think
she was
doing much more five years before we moved back east. So, for 20
years
she watched TV all day long and didn't do much else. Is that how you
want to spend your years from 80 to 100?

There's no reason to believe your familial experience is *the* pattern
for all older people. I know a few guys well into their 80's who are
actively involved in intellectually complicated "mover and shaker"
tasks
that would be beyond the abilities of many half their age. Neither of
them are "smokers." I had a relative who died at 99 after a long,
healthy, active life, and she was sharp as a tack until the very end.

Hey, it's perfectly ok with me if you prefer to die young.

On the other hand, my grandfather started smoking "roll yer own's" at
age 11 when he lived in rural Skytook OK, and always smoked Lucky's,
Chesterfields, Pall Malls, or Camels. The only time he smoked a
filtered cigarette was when he had to bum one or pulled the wrong knob
on the vending machine. He quit those when he was 78 and went with a
pipe. He quit the pipe when he was 85 and passed away at 97. BTW, the
week before he died, he was mowing his lawn with a push mower.


Thus, somehow because one person lived to be 97, it must be ok for
people to smoke. Uh huh.


Pity the poor guy who marries you.

She's not into men. I trust my Gaydar!

-HB


[email protected] September 15th 11 08:07 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:59:48 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:06:47 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:02:25 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:24:52 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:06:24 -0400,
wrote:




OK I apologize, "all over the place" confused me. If you mean all over
the inside of the bar, yes the bartender or the manager if they have
one will enforce the smoking regulations or any other rules in that
bar. If it is a tough place they also have bouncers..

I still don't get your question

I hope you're wife is going to pay them extra for their extra effort.
I can just imagine bartenders chasing after smokers... around and
around the table. In the mean time, everyone else gets to breathe the
smoke.

Are you really that stupid or are you just trolling again?

The easy way bartenders have to restore order is to cut off the
offender and ban them from coming back.
.


So, I'm both stupid and a Nazi?

How do you prevent the smoker from getting into the non-smoking
section? What if they don't stub out the cig? How long do I have to
sit there waiting for the cops to show up after the person refuses to
leave


If I was the bar owner I would have thrown you out by now for being a
pain in the ass


I would then have you arrested due to lack of development.

[email protected] September 15th 11 08:10 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:14:52 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:55:46 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:15:12 -0400,
wrote:



Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".



We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.

X ` Man September 15th 11 11:28 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/15/11 3:10 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:14:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:55:46 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:15:12 -0400,
wrote:



Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".



We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.



You know, we may be making a tactical mistake here. Perhaps we should be
encouraging all righties to smoke, chew and snort nicotine-laden tobacco
products in mass quantities - in the privacy of their homes and cars, of
course. In time, they'll "Darwin" themselves out of existence, and the
gene pool will get a tremendous boost.

--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

Drifter[_2_] September 15th 11 12:38 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/15/2011 1:14 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:55:46 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:15:12 -0400,
wrote:



Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".



We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


Those guys quit smoking, not nicotine. Might as well stick a wad between
your cheek and gum.

iBoatMore September 15th 11 02:00 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/15/11 3:10 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:14:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:55:46 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:15:12 -0400,
wrote:



Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".


We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.



You know, we may be making a tactical mistake here. Perhaps we should be
encouraging all righties to smoke, chew and snort nicotine-laden tobacco
products in mass quantities - in the privacy of their homes and cars, of
course. In time, they'll "Darwin" themselves out of existence, and the
gene pool will get a tremendous boost.


That would be MASSIVE quantities, Mr. Liberal Arts Degree.

John H[_2_] September 15th 11 03:55 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:37:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:27*pm, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/13/11 7:46 PM, BAR wrote:









In articleR5GdnR9K0vwK2PLTnZ2dnUVZ_sWdn...@earthlink .com,
says...


On 9/13/11 7:55 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...


In ,
says...


On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:59:07 -0700, wrote:


The same technology? You want to mandate restaurants to have a glassed
in section with it's own air system??


If they did, would you be happy? *I thought not.
They have even offered to have two separate buildings, with the same
food and the same ambiance ... nope. not good enough.
Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they
think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people.


I was just at a party in a restaurant.
After eating we smokers all went outside for a smoke.
Some non-smokers tagged along to avoid boredom.
Left about 2/3 of the party sitting there twiddling their thumbs.
They sat in dumb silence until we got back.
Then the party resumed.
Anti-smokers are often a sad lot.
Walk around all their lives with a stick up their ass just to live a few
more years of their uptight misery.
Pretty sad. *Some are okay. *They usually do other drugs.


My argument all along. A longer life expectancy is the reward for a
dull, very dull life.


Gotta love the rationalizations of the simple-minded.


I watched my great-grandmother sit in a chair in my grandmother's living
room for 15 years. She watched TV, ate and slept. I don't think she was
doing much more five years before we moved back east. So, for 20 years
she watched TV all day long and didn't do much else. Is that how you
want to spend your years from 80 to 100?


There's no reason to believe your familial experience is *the* pattern
for all older people. I know a few guys well into their 80's who are
actively involved in intellectually complicated "mover and shaker" tasks
that would be beyond the abilities of many half their age. Neither of
them are "smokers." I had a relative who died at 99 after a long,
healthy, active life, and she was sharp as a tack until the very end.

Hey, it's perfectly ok with me if you prefer to die young.


On the other hand, my grandfather started smoking "roll yer own's" at
age 11 when he lived in rural Skytook OK, and always smoked Lucky's,
Chesterfields, Pall Malls, or Camels. The only time he smoked a
filtered cigarette was when he had to bum one or pulled the wrong knob
on the vending machine. He quit those when he was 78 and went with a
pipe. He quit the pipe when he was 85 and passed away at 97. BTW, the
week before he died, he was mowing his lawn with a push mower.


Damn, Tim, that almost makes me want to start smoking again!

Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":

This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.

[email protected] September 15th 11 06:01 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:35:23 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:10:08 -0700,
wrote:

Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".


We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)



Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing


It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.




Make up your mind, You are arguing with yourself again


So, now you're equating bubble gum with nicotine gum????

[email protected] September 15th 11 06:02 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:05 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:37:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:27*pm, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/13/11 7:46 PM, BAR wrote:









In articleR5GdnR9K0vwK2PLTnZ2dnUVZ_sWdn...@earthlink .com,
says...

On 9/13/11 7:55 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,
says...

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:59:07 -0700, wrote:

The same technology? You want to mandate restaurants to have a glassed
in section with it's own air system??

If they did, would you be happy? *I thought not.
They have even offered to have two separate buildings, with the same
food and the same ambiance ... nope. not good enough.
Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they
think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people.

I was just at a party in a restaurant.
After eating we smokers all went outside for a smoke.
Some non-smokers tagged along to avoid boredom.
Left about 2/3 of the party sitting there twiddling their thumbs.
They sat in dumb silence until we got back.
Then the party resumed.
Anti-smokers are often a sad lot.
Walk around all their lives with a stick up their ass just to live a few
more years of their uptight misery.
Pretty sad. *Some are okay. *They usually do other drugs.

My argument all along. A longer life expectancy is the reward for a
dull, very dull life.

Gotta love the rationalizations of the simple-minded.

I watched my great-grandmother sit in a chair in my grandmother's living
room for 15 years. She watched TV, ate and slept. I don't think she was
doing much more five years before we moved back east. So, for 20 years
she watched TV all day long and didn't do much else. Is that how you
want to spend your years from 80 to 100?

There's no reason to believe your familial experience is *the* pattern
for all older people. I know a few guys well into their 80's who are
actively involved in intellectually complicated "mover and shaker" tasks
that would be beyond the abilities of many half their age. Neither of
them are "smokers." I had a relative who died at 99 after a long,
healthy, active life, and she was sharp as a tack until the very end.

Hey, it's perfectly ok with me if you prefer to die young.


On the other hand, my grandfather started smoking "roll yer own's" at
age 11 when he lived in rural Skytook OK, and always smoked Lucky's,
Chesterfields, Pall Malls, or Camels. The only time he smoked a
filtered cigarette was when he had to bum one or pulled the wrong knob
on the vending machine. He quit those when he was 78 and went with a
pipe. He quit the pipe when he was 85 and passed away at 97. BTW, the
week before he died, he was mowing his lawn with a push mower.


Damn, Tim, that almost makes me want to start smoking again!

Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":

This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.


Your daughter must be very sad.

John H[_2_] September 15th 11 06:08 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:02:45 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:05 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:37:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:27*pm, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/13/11 7:46 PM, BAR wrote:









In articleR5GdnR9K0vwK2PLTnZ2dnUVZ_sWdn...@earthlink .com,
says...

On 9/13/11 7:55 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,
says...

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:59:07 -0700, wrote:

The same technology? You want to mandate restaurants to have a glassed
in section with it's own air system??

If they did, would you be happy? *I thought not.
They have even offered to have two separate buildings, with the same
food and the same ambiance ... nope. not good enough.
Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they
think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people.

I was just at a party in a restaurant.
After eating we smokers all went outside for a smoke.
Some non-smokers tagged along to avoid boredom.
Left about 2/3 of the party sitting there twiddling their thumbs.
They sat in dumb silence until we got back.
Then the party resumed.
Anti-smokers are often a sad lot.
Walk around all their lives with a stick up their ass just to live a few
more years of their uptight misery.
Pretty sad. *Some are okay. *They usually do other drugs.

My argument all along. A longer life expectancy is the reward for a
dull, very dull life.

Gotta love the rationalizations of the simple-minded.

I watched my great-grandmother sit in a chair in my grandmother's living
room for 15 years. She watched TV, ate and slept. I don't think she was
doing much more five years before we moved back east. So, for 20 years
she watched TV all day long and didn't do much else. Is that how you
want to spend your years from 80 to 100?

There's no reason to believe your familial experience is *the* pattern
for all older people. I know a few guys well into their 80's who are
actively involved in intellectually complicated "mover and shaker" tasks
that would be beyond the abilities of many half their age. Neither of
them are "smokers." I had a relative who died at 99 after a long,
healthy, active life, and she was sharp as a tack until the very end.

Hey, it's perfectly ok with me if you prefer to die young.

On the other hand, my grandfather started smoking "roll yer own's" at
age 11 when he lived in rural Skytook OK, and always smoked Lucky's,
Chesterfields, Pall Malls, or Camels. The only time he smoked a
filtered cigarette was when he had to bum one or pulled the wrong knob
on the vending machine. He quit those when he was 78 and went with a
pipe. He quit the pipe when he was 85 and passed away at 97. BTW, the
week before he died, he was mowing his lawn with a push mower.


Damn, Tim, that almost makes me want to start smoking again!

Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":

This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.


Your daughter must be very sad.


Plural.

Nope. They're very happy for me.

North Star September 15th 11 06:22 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Sep 15, 2:02*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:05 -0400, John H
wrote:





On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:37:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


On Sep 13, 8:27 pm, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/13/11 7:46 PM, BAR wrote:


In articleR5GdnR9K0vwK2PLTnZ2dnUVZ_sWdn...@earthlink .com,
says...


On 9/13/11 7:55 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...


In ,
says...


On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:59:07 -0700, wrote:


The same technology? You want to mandate restaurants to have a glassed
in section with it's own air system??


If they did, would you be happy? I thought not.
They have even offered to have two separate buildings, with the same
food and the same ambiance ... nope. not good enough.
Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they
think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people.


I was just at a party in a restaurant.
After eating we smokers all went outside for a smoke.
Some non-smokers tagged along to avoid boredom.
Left about 2/3 of the party sitting there twiddling their thumbs..
They sat in dumb silence until we got back.
Then the party resumed.
Anti-smokers are often a sad lot.
Walk around all their lives with a stick up their ass just to live a few
more years of their uptight misery.
Pretty sad. Some are okay. They usually do other drugs.


My argument all along. A longer life expectancy is the reward for a
dull, very dull life.


Gotta love the rationalizations of the simple-minded.


I watched my great-grandmother sit in a chair in my grandmother's living
room for 15 years. She watched TV, ate and slept. I don't think she was
doing much more five years before we moved back east. So, for 20 years
she watched TV all day long and didn't do much else. Is that how you
want to spend your years from 80 to 100?


There's no reason to believe your familial experience is *the* pattern
for all older people. I know a few guys well into their 80's who are
actively involved in intellectually complicated "mover and shaker" tasks
that would be beyond the abilities of many half their age. Neither of
them are "smokers." I had a relative who died at 99 after a long,
healthy, active life, and she was sharp as a tack until the very end.


Hey, it's perfectly ok with me if you prefer to die young.


On the other hand, my grandfather started smoking "roll yer own's" at
age 11 when he lived in rural Skytook OK, and always smoked Lucky's,
Chesterfields, Pall Malls, or Camels. The only time he smoked a
filtered cigarette was when he had to bum one or pulled the wrong knob
on the vending machine. He quit those when he was 78 and went with a
pipe. He quit the pipe when he was 85 and passed away at 97. BTW, the
week before he died, he was mowing his lawn with a push mower.


Damn, Tim, that almost makes me want to start smoking again!


Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":


This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.


Your daughter must be very sad.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not to mention his wife! ;-)

iBoaterer September 15th 11 07:09 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
In article 8d4c04e7-aafc-44c4-9e97-27ca7805f072
@a13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Sep 15, 2:02*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:05 -0400, John H
wrote:





On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:37:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


On Sep 13, 8:27 pm, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/13/11 7:46 PM, BAR wrote:


In articleR5GdnR9K0vwK2PLTnZ2dnUVZ_sWdn...@earthlink .com,
says...


On 9/13/11 7:55 AM, BAR wrote:
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says...


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says...


On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:59:07 -0700, wrote:


The same technology? You want to mandate restaurants to have a glassed
in section with it's own air system??


If they did, would you be happy? I thought not.
They have even offered to have two separate buildings, with the same
food and the same ambiance ... nope. not good enough.
Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they
think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people.


I was just at a party in a restaurant.
After eating we smokers all went outside for a smoke.
Some non-smokers tagged along to avoid boredom.
Left about 2/3 of the party sitting there twiddling their thumbs.
They sat in dumb silence until we got back.
Then the party resumed.
Anti-smokers are often a sad lot.
Walk around all their lives with a stick up their ass just to live a few
more years of their uptight misery.
Pretty sad. Some are okay. They usually do other drugs.


My argument all along. A longer life expectancy is the reward for a
dull, very dull life.


Gotta love the rationalizations of the simple-minded.


I watched my great-grandmother sit in a chair in my grandmother's living
room for 15 years. She watched TV, ate and slept. I don't think she was
doing much more five years before we moved back east. So, for 20 years
she watched TV all day long and didn't do much else. Is that how you
want to spend your years from 80 to 100?


There's no reason to believe your familial experience is *the* pattern
for all older people. I know a few guys well into their 80's who are
actively involved in intellectually complicated "mover and shaker" tasks
that would be beyond the abilities of many half their age. Neither of
them are "smokers." I had a relative who died at 99 after a long,
healthy, active life, and she was sharp as a tack until the very end.


Hey, it's perfectly ok with me if you prefer to die young.


On the other hand, my grandfather started smoking "roll yer own's" at
age 11 when he lived in rural Skytook OK, and always smoked Lucky's,
Chesterfields, Pall Malls, or Camels. The only time he smoked a
filtered cigarette was when he had to bum one or pulled the wrong knob
on the vending machine. He quit those when he was 78 and went with a
pipe. He quit the pipe when he was 85 and passed away at 97. BTW, the
week before he died, he was mowing his lawn with a push mower.


Damn, Tim, that almost makes me want to start smoking again!


Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":


This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.


Your daughter must be very sad.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not to mention his wife! ;-)


I'll bet your wife is pretty sad having to live in that hovel you own.

X ` Man September 15th 11 07:18 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/15/11 2:14 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:01:57 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:35:23 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:10:08 -0700,
wrote:

Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".


We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing

It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.



Make up your mind, You are arguing with yourself again


So, now you're equating bubble gum with nicotine gum????


Nobody ever said bubble gum, We were talking about smokers and
reformed smokers, that implies nicotine gum. It is the gum that I was
talking about. The two are easy to tell apart, even stuck to the
bottom of your shoe.



You don't happen to eat a lot of fatty foods and drink a lot of booze,
do you?


--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

iBoaterer September 15th 11 07:32 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/15/11 2:14 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:01:57 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:35:23 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:10:08 -0700,
wrote:

Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".


We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing

It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.



Make up your mind, You are arguing with yourself again

So, now you're equating bubble gum with nicotine gum????


Nobody ever said bubble gum, We were talking about smokers and
reformed smokers, that implies nicotine gum. It is the gum that I was
talking about. The two are easy to tell apart, even stuck to the
bottom of your shoe.



You don't happen to eat a lot of fatty foods and drink a lot of booze,
do you?


That sounds as if you are talking about yourself.

iBoaterer September 15th 11 08:07 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:02:45 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:05 -0400, John H



Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":

This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.


Your daughter must be very sad.


What a sorry excuse for a person you are.
Here is a guy with a success story and you are still posting snarky
comments.

I think it is time for you to go back on my ignore list.


She's almost as childish as Harry and Don.

[email protected] September 15th 11 08:28 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:14:52 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:01:57 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:35:23 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:10:08 -0700,
wrote:

Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".


We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing

It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.



Make up your mind, You are arguing with yourself again


So, now you're equating bubble gum with nicotine gum????


Nobody ever said bubble gum, We were talking about smokers and
reformed smokers, that implies nicotine gum. It is the gum that I was
talking about. The two are easy to tell apart, even stuck to the
bottom of your shoe.


Ok. I never made that connection. In any case, it doesn't contradict
anything I said.

[email protected] September 15th 11 08:32 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:18:03 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:02:45 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:05 -0400, John H



Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":

This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.


Your daughter must be very sad.


What a sorry excuse for a person you are.
Here is a guy with a success story and you are still posting snarky
comments.

I think it is time for you to go back on my ignore list.


You are not the arbiter of my comments. Feel free to ignore me.

His "success story" includes smoking and shortening his life, making
snarky comments about something he knows little or cares little about,
and generally being a jerk.

John H[_2_] September 16th 11 12:02 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:14:52 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:01:57 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:35:23 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:10:08 -0700,
wrote:

Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".


We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing

It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.



Make up your mind, You are arguing with yourself again


So, now you're equating bubble gum with nicotine gum????


Nobody ever said bubble gum, We were talking about smokers and
reformed smokers, that implies nicotine gum. It is the gum that I was
talking about. The two are easy to tell apart, even stuck to the
bottom of your shoe.


I believe the directions for Nicorette calls for a cessation in the chewing of it within six months
- maybe less. I spent about two years on the stuff. Mostly I was addicted to having something in my
mouth. Now I chew Orbit in the orange package. Still addicted to having something to chew on.

I was buying my Nicorette from an outfit in Australia for about 1/3 the price it sells for here.
And, whenever my friends from Holland came over, they would bring a bunch. Again, it sells for about
half there of what it goes for locally.

X ` Man September 16th 11 01:55 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/15/11 8:31 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:18:34 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 9/15/11 2:14 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:01:57 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:35:23 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:10:08 -0700,
wrote:

Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".


We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing

It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.



Make up your mind, You are arguing with yourself again

So, now you're equating bubble gum with nicotine gum????

Nobody ever said bubble gum, We were talking about smokers and
reformed smokers, that implies nicotine gum. It is the gum that I was
talking about. The two are easy to tell apart, even stuck to the
bottom of your shoe.



You don't happen to eat a lot of fatty foods and drink a lot of booze,
do you?


Not so much on the booze but I probably eat more red meat than my
doctor would like.
He still says my cholesterol and triglycerides are OK.
I am scheduled to go see him again soon, I will get you the numbers if
you like.



As long as your doc is happy with the numbers, you're OK. Had a nuclear
stress test at my last physical...no blockages... :)


--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

[email protected] September 16th 11 03:48 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:31:28 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:18:34 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 9/15/11 2:14 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:01:57 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:35:23 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:10:08 -0700,
wrote:

Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".


We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing

It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.



Make up your mind, You are arguing with yourself again

So, now you're equating bubble gum with nicotine gum????

Nobody ever said bubble gum, We were talking about smokers and
reformed smokers, that implies nicotine gum. It is the gum that I was
talking about. The two are easy to tell apart, even stuck to the
bottom of your shoe.



You don't happen to eat a lot of fatty foods and drink a lot of booze,
do you?


Not so much on the booze but I probably eat more red meat than my
doctor would like.
He still says my cholesterol and triglycerides are OK.
I am scheduled to go see him again soon, I will get you the numbers if
you like.


You shouldn't listen to your doctor! He's got a medical degree, but
you have common sense... or some bs like that.

Califbill September 16th 11 05:39 AM

Grocery carts - was Wally-Mart...
 
wrote in message ...

On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 08:44:10 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Not really. The original case of letting a kid fall out of the grocery
cart
because of no seat belt were my neighbors in the mid 50's. The let the kid
fall out of the Safeway Stores grocery cart. They got $50k plus a college
fund for the kid. Was not Safeway's fault they let the kid fall out. Cars
did not even have seat belts. Started a flood of windfall suits over the
years.


I think it is stupid that they ALLOW kids to ride in the same cart you
put your food in. I never put anything I will eat in that top tray.

Leaky diaper, fresh produce (that most people put up there) what could
possibly go wrong ?
That tray is for bleach, poisons and bathroom cleaners that I also
don't want mixed with my food.
Fortunately I seldom actually see kids in carts. They have those race
car carts for kids. I think they should just eliminate the leg holes.


-------------------------------------------
Hell, the carts are dirty from just being outside and the people pushing the
cart. I normally put the bring your own bag in the cart these days to put
the food in.


Califbill September 16th 11 05:41 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:11:06 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:42:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:13:56 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 20:31:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:23:19 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/09/2011 11:12 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:21:07 -0400,
wrote:


You seriously believe that all costs are passed along to the
consumer?
All costs? Feel free to try and defend that statement.

As I actually said, the "insurance claims are.. a tiny piece of the
pie."

Ultimately yep, all costs will be passed on to the consumer. Take oil,
go ahead, slap a $90/barrel tax on oil and watch the pump prices double
or more.

A classic example was the massive judgement against the cigarette
companies. Shortly after that Altria posted record profits.

I doubt there's much causation between the two. Feel free to provide
some facts that support this causation.


They certainly passed all the costs on to the customer, plus a huge
profit.


The cost being lung cancer. Of course, they don't need to be
regulated, right? The consumer should be able to figure it out without
any help from the gov't. Why they can just stop, and if they can't,
they must be weak-minded and deserve to get sick. - this is the
mantra of the right, including Ron (non-St.) Paul.


People who smoke know it is dangerous, everyone has known that for 40
years. They are hooked on the drug and they keep doing it. You can say
the same thing about a lot of drugs, legal and illegal.
It is really none of our business.

If you are worried about the cost of Medicare you should like smokers.
A lot of them will die before they ever even get to 65.
Most avoid going to the doctor and they die fairly cheaply compared to
a "healthy" person who lives to 85, getting artificial hips, organ
transplants, cataract operations and tons of expensive drugs.

It sounds cruel but it is the choice they made.

My non-smoking grandfather lived to 100 and cost Medicare a bundle. My
smoking parents both died young and didn't have any significant
medical bills at all. My smoking sister is pretty much on her death
bed and still not on medicare. (Dec 01, 11 based on her husband's age)


---------------------------------------------
Smoking has been known to be bad for you a longer the 40 years. My mom,
who died last year at 95, and did not smoke, and was an RN said they called
them "cancer Sticks" in the late 1930's or earlier.


Boating All Out September 16th 11 05:45 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:48:00 -0700,
wrote:




You shouldn't listen to your doctor! He's got a medical degree, but
you have common sense... or some bs like that.


Like I said you are a miserable excuse for a person. Since you don't
have a boat and nobody really wants to talk to you, why are you here?
Don't go away mad, just go away.


Well, she can go back to talking mostly with Canuck.
He's always willing to talk to her so she can call him more names.
What a pair.
Which only proves.....misery loves company.
She's the only person I've seen here who is better at alienating people
than Krause and the Freak.
But she's not as fast.

[email protected] September 16th 11 05:46 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:49:02 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:48:00 -0700,
wrote:




You shouldn't listen to your doctor! He's got a medical degree, but
you have common sense... or some bs like that.


Like I said you are a miserable excuse for a person. Since you don't
have a boat and nobody really wants to talk to you, why are you here?
Don't go away mad, just go away.


Too bad for you isn't it. Seems you can't help yourself? Just keep in
mind that you're here with me. I'm not here with you.

Why don't you call me a Nazi again.

[email protected] September 16th 11 05:47 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:41:41 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:11:06 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:42:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:13:56 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 20:31:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:23:19 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/09/2011 11:12 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:21:07 -0400,
wrote:


You seriously believe that all costs are passed along to the
consumer?
All costs? Feel free to try and defend that statement.

As I actually said, the "insurance claims are.. a tiny piece of the
pie."

Ultimately yep, all costs will be passed on to the consumer. Take oil,
go ahead, slap a $90/barrel tax on oil and watch the pump prices double
or more.

A classic example was the massive judgement against the cigarette
companies. Shortly after that Altria posted record profits.

I doubt there's much causation between the two. Feel free to provide
some facts that support this causation.

They certainly passed all the costs on to the customer, plus a huge
profit.


The cost being lung cancer. Of course, they don't need to be
regulated, right? The consumer should be able to figure it out without
any help from the gov't. Why they can just stop, and if they can't,
they must be weak-minded and deserve to get sick. - this is the
mantra of the right, including Ron (non-St.) Paul.


People who smoke know it is dangerous, everyone has known that for 40
years. They are hooked on the drug and they keep doing it. You can say
the same thing about a lot of drugs, legal and illegal.
It is really none of our business.

If you are worried about the cost of Medicare you should like smokers.
A lot of them will die before they ever even get to 65.
Most avoid going to the doctor and they die fairly cheaply compared to
a "healthy" person who lives to 85, getting artificial hips, organ
transplants, cataract operations and tons of expensive drugs.

It sounds cruel but it is the choice they made.

My non-smoking grandfather lived to 100 and cost Medicare a bundle. My
smoking parents both died young and didn't have any significant
medical bills at all. My smoking sister is pretty much on her death
bed and still not on medicare. (Dec 01, 11 based on her husband's age)


---------------------------------------------
Smoking has been known to be bad for you a longer the 40 years. My mom,
who died last year at 95, and did not smoke, and was an RN said they called
them "cancer Sticks" in the late 1930's or earlier.


Therefore, gov't has no role in protecting innocent people's lives, or
some such bs.

TopBassDog September 16th 11 06:35 AM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Sep 15, 11:46*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:49:02 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:48:00 -0700, wrote:


You shouldn't listen to your doctor! He's got a medical degree, but
you have common sense... or some bs like that.


Like I said you are a miserable excuse for a person. Since you don't
have a boat and nobody really wants to talk to you, why are you here?
Don't go away mad, just go away.


Too bad for you isn't it. Seems you can't help yourself? Just keep in
mind that you're here with me. I'm not here with you.

Why don't you call me a Nazi again.


Why insult Hitler?

X ` Man September 16th 11 12:43 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/15/11 11:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:48:00 -0700,
wrote:




You shouldn't listen to your doctor! He's got a medical degree, but
you have common sense... or some bs like that.


Like I said you are a miserable excuse for a person. Since you don't
have a boat and nobody really wants to talk to you, why are you here?
Don't go away mad, just go away.



If you are going to go after those who either have no boats or have no
interest in boats, there are plenty here on your side of the aisle from
which to choose.

--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

North Star September 16th 11 01:37 PM

Grocery carts - was Wally-Mart...
 
On Sep 16, 1:39*am, "Califbill" wrote:
wrote in messagenews:hjlk679tp31rg9opt00o1cqeft8gh0tnk6@4ax .com...

On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 08:44:10 -0700, "Califbill"

wrote:
Not really. *The original case of letting a kid fall out of the grocery
cart
because of no seat belt were my neighbors in the mid 50's. The let the kid
fall out of the Safeway Stores grocery cart. *They got $50k plus a college
fund for the kid. *Was not Safeway's fault they let the kid fall out. *Cars
did not even have seat belts. *Started a flood of windfall suits over the
years.


I think it is stupid that they ALLOW kids to ride in the same cart you
put your food in. I never put anything I will eat in that top tray.

Leaky diaper, fresh produce (that most people put up there) what could
possibly go wrong ?
That tray is for bleach, poisons and bathroom cleaners that I also
don't want mixed with my food.
Fortunately I seldom actually see kids in carts. They have those race
car carts for kids. I think they should just eliminate the leg holes.

-------------------------------------------
Hell, the carts are dirty from just being outside and the people pushing the
cart. *I normally put the bring your own bag in the cart these days to put
the food in.


Civilized up here. One of our local chains provides those anti-
bacterial wipes that I use to disinfect the shopping cart handle.
You never know when a Looney or a Freak just used that cart and left
unspeakable debris all over it.

North Star September 16th 11 01:40 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Sep 16, 8:43*am, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/15/11 11:49 PM, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:48:00 -0700, wrote:


You shouldn't listen to your doctor! He's got a medical degree, but
you have common sense... or some bs like that.


Like I said you are a miserable excuse for a person. Since you don't
have a boat and nobody really wants to talk to you, why are you here?
Don't go away mad, just go away.


If you are going to go after those who either have no boats or have no
interest in boats, there are plenty here on your side of the aisle from
which to choose.

--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.


I'd say the majority of non boaters in here are dopers or doper wanna
be's

X ` Man September 16th 11 01:41 PM

Grocery carts - was Wally-Mart...
 
On 9/16/11 8:37 AM, North Star wrote:
On Sep 16, 1:39 am, wrote:
wrote in messagenews:hjlk679tp31rg9opt00o1cqeft8gh0tnk6@4ax .com...

On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 08:44:10 -0700, "Califbill"

wrote:
Not really. The original case of letting a kid fall out of the grocery
cart
because of no seat belt were my neighbors in the mid 50's. The let the kid
fall out of the Safeway Stores grocery cart. They got $50k plus a college
fund for the kid. Was not Safeway's fault they let the kid fall out. Cars
did not even have seat belts. Started a flood of windfall suits over the
years.


I think it is stupid that they ALLOW kids to ride in the same cart you
put your food in. I never put anything I will eat in that top tray.

Leaky diaper, fresh produce (that most people put up there) what could
possibly go wrong ?
That tray is for bleach, poisons and bathroom cleaners that I also
don't want mixed with my food.
Fortunately I seldom actually see kids in carts. They have those race
car carts for kids. I think they should just eliminate the leg holes.

-------------------------------------------
Hell, the carts are dirty from just being outside and the people pushing the
cart. I normally put the bring your own bag in the cart these days to put
the food in.


Civilized up here. One of our local chains provides those anti-
bacterial wipes that I use to disinfect the shopping cart handle.
You never know when a Looney or a Freak just used that cart and left
unspeakable debris all over it.



Couple of grocery chains down here do the same in the anti-bacterial
wipes. Can't be too careful when it comes to avoiding
Loogy/Freak diseases!


--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

X ` Man September 16th 11 01:44 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/16/11 8:40 AM, North Star wrote:
On Sep 16, 8:43 am, X ` wrote:
On 9/15/11 11:49 PM, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:48:00 -0700, wrote:


You shouldn't listen to your doctor! He's got a medical degree, but
you have common sense... or some bs like that.


Like I said you are a miserable excuse for a person. Since you don't
have a boat and nobody really wants to talk to you, why are you here?
Don't go away mad, just go away.


If you are going to go after those who either have no boats or have no
interest in boats, there are plenty here on your side of the aisle from
which to choose.

--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.


I'd say the majority of non boaters in here are dopers or doper wanna
be's


I'm skipping over virtually all the posts of loogywannabe, flajim,
bottomlickerbass, et cetera. I confess to looking at the posts of
Ingersoll, because I'm hoping to see him have a total mental/emotional
breakdown right here in rec.boats. He came close the other day with his
death wish for Andy Borowitz.



--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

Drifter[_2_] September 16th 11 01:51 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/15/2011 11:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:48:00 -0700,
wrote:




You shouldn't listen to your doctor! He's got a medical degree, but
you have common sense... or some bs like that.


Like I said you are a miserable excuse for a person. Since you don't
have a boat and nobody really wants to talk to you, why are you here?
Don't go away mad, just go away.


I don't have a problem talking to her/it, but no one in their right mind
attempts to talk with her. It's kind of like carrying on a conversation
with a walnut. Eventually people will begin to think you are a little
strange.

North Star September 16th 11 01:52 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On Sep 16, 9:44*am, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/16/11 8:40 AM, North Star wrote:





On Sep 16, 8:43 am, X ` *wrote:
On 9/15/11 11:49 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:48:00 -0700, wrote:


You shouldn't listen to your doctor! He's got a medical degree, but
you have common sense... or some bs like that.


Like I said you are a miserable excuse for a person. Since you don't
have a boat and nobody really wants to talk to you, why are you here?
Don't go away mad, just go away.


If you are going to go after those who either have no boats or have no
interest in boats, there are plenty here on your side of the aisle from
which to choose.


--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.


I'd say the majority of non boaters in here are dopers or doper wanna
be's


I'm skipping over virtually all the posts of loogywannabe, flajim,
bottomlickerbass, et cetera. I confess to looking at the posts of
Ingersoll, because I'm hoping to see him have a total mental/emotional
breakdown right here in rec.boats. He came close the other day with his
death wish for Andy Borowitz.

--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Was that the person he wanted to "run down"??
What a nutcase... I hope The Mouse and Terry have an escape plan when
the 'big one' hits.

Drifter[_2_] September 16th 11 01:57 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/16/2011 7:43 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/15/11 11:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:48:00 -0700,
wrote:




You shouldn't listen to your doctor! He's got a medical degree, but
you have common sense... or some bs like that.


Like I said you are a miserable excuse for a person. Since you don't
have a boat and nobody really wants to talk to you, why are you here?
Don't go away mad, just go away.



If you are going to go after those who either have no boats or have no
interest in boats, there are plenty here on your side of the aisle from
which to choose.


There is a little more to it than the boat issue. After all, you have a
canoe and you still suck. Having a boat isn't all that necessary to have
conversations with boaters, but respect is.

Drifter[_2_] September 16th 11 02:01 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/16/2011 12:47 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:41:41 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:11:06 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:42:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:13:56 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 20:31:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:23:19 -0600,
wrote:

On 08/09/2011 11:12 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:21:07 -0400,
wrote:


You seriously believe that all costs are passed along to the
consumer?
All costs? Feel free to try and defend that statement.

As I actually said, the "insurance claims are.. a tiny piece of the
pie."

Ultimately yep, all costs will be passed on to the consumer. Take oil,
go ahead, slap a $90/barrel tax on oil and watch the pump prices double
or more.

A classic example was the massive judgement against the cigarette
companies. Shortly after that Altria posted record profits.

I doubt there's much causation between the two. Feel free to provide
some facts that support this causation.

They certainly passed all the costs on to the customer, plus a huge
profit.

The cost being lung cancer. Of course, they don't need to be
regulated, right? The consumer should be able to figure it out without
any help from the gov't. Why they can just stop, and if they can't,
they must be weak-minded and deserve to get sick.- this is the
mantra of the right, including Ron (non-St.) Paul.


People who smoke know it is dangerous, everyone has known that for 40
years. They are hooked on the drug and they keep doing it. You can say
the same thing about a lot of drugs, legal and illegal.
It is really none of our business.

If you are worried about the cost of Medicare you should like smokers.
A lot of them will die before they ever even get to 65.
Most avoid going to the doctor and they die fairly cheaply compared to
a "healthy" person who lives to 85, getting artificial hips, organ
transplants, cataract operations and tons of expensive drugs.

It sounds cruel but it is the choice they made.

My non-smoking grandfather lived to 100 and cost Medicare a bundle. My
smoking parents both died young and didn't have any significant
medical bills at all. My smoking sister is pretty much on her death
bed and still not on medicare. (Dec 01, 11 based on her husband's age)


---------------------------------------------
Smoking has been known to be bad for you a longer the 40 years. My mom,
who died last year at 95, and did not smoke, and was an RN said they called
them "cancer Sticks" in the late 1930's or earlier.


Therefore, gov't has no role in protecting innocent people's lives, or
some such bs.


Promote the common welfare not legislate it, you ****ing moron.

Drifter[_2_] September 16th 11 02:11 PM

Grocery carts - was Wally-Mart...
 
On 9/16/2011 8:37 AM, North Star wrote:
On Sep 16, 1:39 am, wrote:
wrote in messagenews:hjlk679tp31rg9opt00o1cqeft8gh0tnk6@4ax .com...

On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 08:44:10 -0700, "Califbill"

wrote:
Not really. The original case of letting a kid fall out of the grocery
cart
because of no seat belt were my neighbors in the mid 50's. The let the kid
fall out of the Safeway Stores grocery cart. They got $50k plus a college
fund for the kid. Was not Safeway's fault they let the kid fall out. Cars
did not even have seat belts. Started a flood of windfall suits over the
years.


I think it is stupid that they ALLOW kids to ride in the same cart you
put your food in. I never put anything I will eat in that top tray.

Leaky diaper, fresh produce (that most people put up there) what could
possibly go wrong ?
That tray is for bleach, poisons and bathroom cleaners that I also
don't want mixed with my food.
Fortunately I seldom actually see kids in carts. They have those race
car carts for kids. I think they should just eliminate the leg holes.

-------------------------------------------
Hell, the carts are dirty from just being outside and the people pushing the
cart. I normally put the bring your own bag in the cart these days to put
the food in.


Civilized up here. One of our local chains provides those anti-
bacterial wipes that I use to disinfect the shopping cart handle.


Ah yes. Some of the good hygienic practices in wide use in America
eventually get introduced to Canadians on a limited basis.


Drifter[_2_] September 16th 11 02:13 PM

Grocery carts - was Wally-Mart...
 
On 9/16/2011 8:41 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/16/11 8:37 AM, North Star wrote:
On Sep 16, 1:39 am, wrote:
wrote in messagenews:hjlk679tp31rg9opt00o1cqeft8gh0tnk6@4ax .com...

On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 08:44:10 -0700, "Califbill"

wrote:
Not really. The original case of letting a kid fall out of the grocery
cart
because of no seat belt were my neighbors in the mid 50's. The let
the kid
fall out of the Safeway Stores grocery cart. They got $50k plus a
college
fund for the kid. Was not Safeway's fault they let the kid fall out.
Cars
did not even have seat belts. Started a flood of windfall suits over
the
years.

I think it is stupid that they ALLOW kids to ride in the same cart you
put your food in. I never put anything I will eat in that top tray.

Leaky diaper, fresh produce (that most people put up there) what could
possibly go wrong ?
That tray is for bleach, poisons and bathroom cleaners that I also
don't want mixed with my food.
Fortunately I seldom actually see kids in carts. They have those race
car carts for kids. I think they should just eliminate the leg holes.

-------------------------------------------
Hell, the carts are dirty from just being outside and the people
pushing the
cart. I normally put the bring your own bag in the cart these days to
put
the food in.


Civilized up here. One of our local chains provides those anti-
bacterial wipes that I use to disinfect the shopping cart handle.
You never know when a Looney or a Freak just used that cart and left
unspeakable debris all over it.



Couple of grocery chains down here do the same in the anti-bacterial
wipes. Can't be too careful when it comes to avoiding
Loogy/Freak diseases!



You got bigger health problems with that sink next to your coffeemaker.

X ` Man September 16th 11 02:24 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/16/11 8:52 AM, North Star wrote:
On Sep 16, 9:44 am, X ` wrote:
On 9/16/11 8:40 AM, North Star wrote:





On Sep 16, 8:43 am, X ` wrote:
On 9/15/11 11:49 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:48:00 -0700, wrote:


You shouldn't listen to your doctor! He's got a medical degree, but
you have common sense... or some bs like that.


Like I said you are a miserable excuse for a person. Since you don't
have a boat and nobody really wants to talk to you, why are you here?
Don't go away mad, just go away.


If you are going to go after those who either have no boats or have no
interest in boats, there are plenty here on your side of the aisle from
which to choose.


--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.


I'd say the majority of non boaters in here are dopers or doper wanna
be's


I'm skipping over virtually all the posts of loogywannabe, flajim,
bottomlickerbass, et cetera. I confess to looking at the posts of
Ingersoll, because I'm hoping to see him have a total mental/emotional
breakdown right here in rec.boats. He came close the other day with his
death wish for Andy Borowitz.

--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Was that the person he wanted to "run down"??
What a nutcase... I hope The Mouse and Terry have an escape plan when
the 'big one' hits.



Yup...it was Andy who Ingersoll wanted to run down.

--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.


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