On Aug 25, 12:35*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"Canuck57" *wrote in ...

On 24/08/2011 5:01 PM, Wayne B wrote:









On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:55:16 -0400, John
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:34:15 -0400, Wayne
*wrote:

As some of you may remember, our trip north this year started out with
some fairy decent fishing. *Coming up out of Florida we caught 4 Mahi
Mahis, 1 Tuna, and 1 Bonito. *All decent fish, all good eating as
confirmed by our fillet, fry and release program. *Then we hit a dry
spell and did not catch another fish until July when we caught a
decent sized blue fish in the islands south of Cape Cod. * And then
another long dry spell even though quite a few serious attempts were
made in areas known for both blue fish and stripers, not even a
nibble.

Our luck changed today near Orient Point on the north eastern tip of
Long Island when we hooked up a 30 foot sailboat on two rods
simultaneously. *The sailboat fought valiantly for several minutes
amidst some heated discourse by both boat owners but in the end he
broke off, taking about $30 worth of lures away with him.

It was some sort of omen of things to come however. *Although
discouraged by the breakoff I immediately rerigged both rods and
minutes later we had a strike from a very feisty bluefish just south
of Plum Gut. *Unfortunately he was a bit on the small side resulting
in a donation to Davey Jones. * Ten minutes later we had another
strong bite *from a secong bluefish. * This one got almost to the boat
but *gave one last minute jump and flip which was successful in
throwing the hook. *Close but no cigar.

It looks like we'll be eating out tonight.

You *are* using wire leaders for those blues, right? Would you have eaten
them if you'd landed them?
How would you've fixed 'em?

============

My wife is a genius at cooking bluefish. *I filet them, and then she
cuts away all of the dark meat (too oily), and then pan fries the rest
adding some breading, garlic, fresh onion and mint. *It really turns
out very nicely.

Probably a good thing you weren't using braided line, it might have cut
the damn sailboat in half.
I'm assuming you weren't, 'cause you didn't say you sunk the sailboat.

No braided line here, 120 lb clear mono on my large reel, 60 lb green
mono on the other, both with wire leaders. * I thought for sure I'd
get spooled out but they both broke off eventually - *probably got
caught on his prop or something.

I tried the braided line once, threw it all out. *Strong yes, but after
having that in a prop once I decided it wasn't worth the effort.

--
If it is all Bush's fault, then how come Obama is doing much more of the
same and expecting different results?

I run lots of braid. *Depending on the rig. *My trolling rods are mono, but
the rockcod rigs are all 50# braid. *About as small as I can see to tie
knots in without the glasses. *The braid lets me feel the bottom and bites
when fishing the reefs. *The Talica 12 2 speed tuna setup is 65# braid with
a 50# mono topshot. *Was good to land a 95.6# Yellow Fin tuna in July. *Had
about a 1000' of line out as the tuna wanted to stay far out from the boat.

On 8/25/2011 7:41 PM, Tim wrote:
On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in ...

On 24/08/2011 5:01 PM, Wayne B wrote:









On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:55:16 -0400, John
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:34:15 -0400, Wayne
wrote:

As some of you may remember, our trip north this year started out with
some fairy decent fishing. Coming up out of Florida we caught 4 Mahi
Mahis, 1 Tuna, and 1 Bonito. All decent fish, all good eating as
confirmed by our fillet, fry and release program. Then we hit a dry
spell and did not catch another fish until July when we caught a
decent sized blue fish in the islands south of Cape Cod. And then
another long dry spell even though quite a few serious attempts were
made in areas known for both blue fish and stripers, not even a
nibble.

Our luck changed today near Orient Point on the north eastern tip of
Long Island when we hooked up a 30 foot sailboat on two rods
simultaneously. The sailboat fought valiantly for several minutes
amidst some heated discourse by both boat owners but in the end he
broke off, taking about $30 worth of lures away with him.

It was some sort of omen of things to come however. Although
discouraged by the breakoff I immediately rerigged both rods and
minutes later we had a strike from a very feisty bluefish just south
of Plum Gut. Unfortunately he was a bit on the small side resulting
in a donation to Davey Jones. Ten minutes later we had another
strong bite from a secong bluefish. This one got almost to the boat
but gave one last minute jump and flip which was successful in
throwing the hook. Close but no cigar.

It looks like we'll be eating out tonight.

You *are* using wire leaders for those blues, right? Would you have eaten
them if you'd landed them?
How would you've fixed 'em?

============

My wife is a genius at cooking bluefish. I filet them, and then she
cuts away all of the dark meat (too oily), and then pan fries the rest
adding some breading, garlic, fresh onion and mint. It really turns
out very nicely.

Probably a good thing you weren't using braided line, it might have cut
the damn sailboat in half.
I'm assuming you weren't, 'cause you didn't say you sunk the sailboat.

No braided line here, 120 lb clear mono on my large reel, 60 lb green
mono on the other, both with wire leaders. I thought for sure I'd
get spooled out but they both broke off eventually - probably got
caught on his prop or something.

I tried the braided line once, threw it all out. Strong yes, but after
having that in a prop once I decided it wasn't worth the effort.

--
If it is all Bush's fault, then how come Obama is doing much more of the
same and expecting different results?

I run lots of braid. Depending on the rig. My trolling rods are mono, but
the rockcod rigs are all 50# braid. About as small as I can see to tie
knots in without the glasses. The braid lets me feel the bottom and bites
when fishing the reefs. The Talica 12 2 speed tuna setup is 65# braid with
a 50# mono topshot. Was good to land a 95.6# Yellow Fin tuna in July. Had
about a 1000' of line out as the tuna wanted to stay far out from the boat.
And my black bass fishing is braid most of the time, as lets the line cut
through the moss and tules.

Wow, you gents are talking about fishing tackle that I'm not used to.
I have only one rig, and I still have it- the Zebco 202 that my
grandpa bought for me 40 years ago. I'm sure it needs restrung, but it
did get used for a lot of bluegills and some catfish.

Nothing wrong with fishing an old Zebco or similar.. But like working,
your are gonna' do a lot better job with a decent tool. The rod to me is
much more important than the reel though, just like in Motocross, the
suspension is more important than the engine...

Like I said though, depends on weather you care if you catch any fish or
not.

When I was a kid we were pretty poor.. and I mean literally. My dad and
I couldn't afford the 15-20 bucks for a proper fishing reel so we made
them. For the first couple years at the pond at the museum he was a
curator at, we used tomato stakes, string and brads (nails) to catch
bullheads, perch, and huge sunfish. As I got more into fishing and
started taking my bike with friends to local lakes and ponds, I used a
Michelob bottle (best shape for hand casting) and I bought a spool of
line once a year... I could cast that line as good as most of the other
kids with poles, however I didn't land fish as consistently. I really
didn't know much better, I just wanted to be fishing...

Man, I miss dad...

On Aug 25, 7:29*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 8/25/2011 7:41 PM, Tim wrote:









On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, *wrote:
"Canuck57" *wrote in ....

On 24/08/2011 5:01 PM, Wayne B wrote:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:55:16 -0400, John
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:34:15 -0400, Wayne
* *wrote:

As some of you may remember, our trip north this year started out with
some fairy decent fishing. *Coming up out of Florida we caught 4 Mahi
Mahis, 1 Tuna, and 1 Bonito. *All decent fish, all good eating as
confirmed by our fillet, fry and release program. *Then we hit a dry
spell and did not catch another fish until July when we caught a
decent sized blue fish in the islands south of Cape Cod. * And then
another long dry spell even though quite a few serious attempts were
made in areas known for both blue fish and stripers, not even a
nibble.

Our luck changed today near Orient Point on the north eastern tip of
Long Island when we hooked up a 30 foot sailboat on two rods
simultaneously. *The sailboat fought valiantly for several minutes
amidst some heated discourse by both boat owners but in the end he
broke off, taking about $30 worth of lures away with him.

It was some sort of omen of things to come however. *Although
discouraged by the breakoff I immediately rerigged both rods and
minutes later we had a strike from a very feisty bluefish just south
of Plum Gut. *Unfortunately he was a bit on the small side resulting
in a donation to Davey Jones. * Ten minutes later we had another
strong bite *from a secong bluefish. * This one got almost to the boat
but *gave one last minute jump and flip which was successful in
throwing the hook. *Close but no cigar.

It looks like we'll be eating out tonight.

You *are* using wire leaders for those blues, right? Would you have eaten
them if you'd landed them?
How would you've fixed 'em?

============

My wife is a genius at cooking bluefish. *I filet them, and then she
cuts away all of the dark meat (too oily), and then pan fries the rest
adding some breading, garlic, fresh onion and mint. *It really turns
out very nicely.

Probably a good thing you weren't using braided line, it might have cut
the damn sailboat in half.
I'm assuming you weren't, 'cause you didn't say you sunk the sailboat.

On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:29:54 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

When I was a kid we were pretty poor.. and I mean literally. My dad and
I couldn't afford the 15-20 bucks for a proper fishing reel so we made
them. For the first couple years at the pond at the museum he was a
curator at, we used tomato stakes, string and brads (nails) to catch
bullheads, perch, and huge sunfish. As I got more into fishing and
started taking my bike with friends to local lakes and ponds, I used a
Michelob bottle (best shape for hand casting) and I bought a spool of
line once a year... I could cast that line as good as most of the other
kids with poles, however I didn't land fish as consistently. I really
didn't know much better, I just wanted to be fishing...

I can relate to some of that, used to spend a lot of time drooling
over fishing gear that I couldn't afford as a kid. The native guys
down in the islands fish with some amazingly primitive home made gear
and they do OK with it.

On 8/25/2011 9:15 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:29:54 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

When I was a kid we were pretty poor.. and I mean literally. My dad and
I couldn't afford the 15-20 bucks for a proper fishing reel so we made
them. For the first couple years at the pond at the museum he was a
curator at, we used tomato stakes, string and brads (nails) to catch
bullheads, perch, and huge sunfish. As I got more into fishing and
started taking my bike with friends to local lakes and ponds, I used a
Michelob bottle (best shape for hand casting) and I bought a spool of
line once a year... I could cast that line as good as most of the other
kids with poles, however I didn't land fish as consistently. I really
didn't know much better, I just wanted to be fishing...

I can relate to some of that, used to spend a lot of time drooling
over fishing gear that I couldn't afford as a kid. The native guys
down in the islands fish with some amazingly primitive home made gear
and they do OK with it.


I am sure at least half the guys here did the same thing.. Like I said,
thankfully I didn't know much better

On Aug 25, 8:52*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 8/25/2011 9:15 PM, Wayne B wrote:









On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:29:54 -0400, JustWait
*wrote:

When I was a kid we were pretty poor.. and I mean literally. My dad and
I couldn't afford the 15-20 bucks for a proper fishing reel so we made
them. For the first couple years at the pond at the museum he was a
curator at, we used tomato stakes, string and brads (nails) to catch
bullheads, perch, and huge sunfish. As I got more into fishing and
started taking my bike with friends to local lakes and ponds, I used a
Michelob bottle (best shape for hand casting) and I bought a spool of
line once a year... I could cast that line as good as most of the other
kids with poles, however I didn't land fish as consistently. I really
didn't know much better, I just wanted to be fishing...

I can relate to some of that, used to spend a lot of time drooling
over fishing gear that I couldn't afford as a kid. * The native guys
down in the islands fish with some amazingly primitive home made gear
and they do OK with it.

I am sure at least half the guys here did the same thing.. Like I said,
thankfully I didn't know much better

In his 93 years on this earth, I wish i knew how many tons of fish my
grandpa caught with a cane pole.

On 8/25/2011 10:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Aug 25, 8:52 pm, wrote:
On 8/25/2011 9:15 PM, Wayne B wrote:









On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:29:54 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

When I was a kid we were pretty poor.. and I mean literally. My dad and
I couldn't afford the 15-20 bucks for a proper fishing reel so we made
them. For the first couple years at the pond at the museum he was a
curator at, we used tomato stakes, string and brads (nails) to catch
bullheads, perch, and huge sunfish. As I got more into fishing and
started taking my bike with friends to local lakes and ponds, I used a
Michelob bottle (best shape for hand casting) and I bought a spool of
line once a year... I could cast that line as good as most of the other
kids with poles, however I didn't land fish as consistently. I really
didn't know much better, I just wanted to be fishing...

I can relate to some of that, used to spend a lot of time drooling
over fishing gear that I couldn't afford as a kid. The native guys
down in the islands fish with some amazingly primitive home made gear
and they do OK with it.

I am sure at least half the guys here did the same thing.. Like I said,
thankfully I didn't know much better

In his 93 years on this earth, I wish i knew how many tons of fish my
grandpa caught with a cane pole.

Yeah, but a good cane pole is as good as a fiberglass... Nice action,
stiff.... I have a couple old ones down in Essex...

"Wayne B" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:29:54 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

When I was a kid we were pretty poor.. and I mean literally. My dad and
I couldn't afford the 15-20 bucks for a proper fishing reel so we made
them. For the first couple years at the pond at the museum he was a
curator at, we used tomato stakes, string and brads (nails) to catch
bullheads, perch, and huge sunfish. As I got more into fishing and
started taking my bike with friends to local lakes and ponds, I used a
Michelob bottle (best shape for hand casting) and I bought a spool of
line once a year... I could cast that line as good as most of the other
kids with poles, however I didn't land fish as consistently. I really
didn't know much better, I just wanted to be fishing...

I can relate to some of that, used to spend a lot of time drooling
over fishing gear that I couldn't afford as a kid. The native guys
down in the islands fish with some amazingly primitive home made gear
and they do OK with it.


Reply:
Most of the Panguero's in Baja fish hand lines. land some large fish on
those lines. I fish a lot of different types if fish, living near the coast
of N. Calif. Trout in lakes and streams (flys in the stream), Trout from
both the boat and Kayak. Plus California Halibut in SF bay. Most in the
5-15# range, striped bass in the bay and delta, and I also fish out of San
Diego and SoCal ports. Last week of July I went on a 7 day long range trip
out of Pt. Loma in San Diego. Tuna and Yellowtail and some Dorado. We
fished Rocas ilijos which is 467 miles from SD and 150 miles off Baja. Need
good gear for these. Plus both bait fish and fish jigs. Tossing 5oz Sala's
and Tady jigs is both fun and takes decent rod and reel to handle the
casting. Biggest fish on the trip was 105# and my jackpot fish was 95.6.
http://www.pbase.com/q105/coastside_7_day photo of me on the left with the
large Ahi.

On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:19:29 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Biggest fish on the trip was 105# and my jackpot fish was 95.6.
http://www.pbase.com/q105/coastside_7_day photo of me on the left with the
large Ahi.

===


Nice fish !

On Aug 25, 11:19*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"Wayne B" *wrote in message

...

On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:29:54 -0400, JustWait

wrote:
When I was a kid we were pretty poor.. and I mean literally. My dad and
I couldn't afford the 15-20 bucks for a proper fishing reel so we made
them. For the first couple years at the pond at the museum he was a
curator at, we used tomato stakes, string and brads (nails) to catch
bullheads, perch, and huge sunfish. As I got more into fishing and
started taking my bike with friends to local lakes and ponds, I used a
Michelob bottle (best shape for hand casting) and I bought a spool of
line once a year... I could cast that line as good as most of the other
kids with poles, however I didn't land fish as consistently. I really
didn't know much better, I just wanted to be fishing...

I can relate to some of that, used to spend a lot of time drooling
over fishing gear that I couldn't afford as a kid. * The native guys
down in the islands fish with some amazingly primitive home made gear
and they do OK with it.

Reply:
Most of the Panguero's in Baja fish hand lines. *land some large fish on
those lines. *I fish a lot of different types if fish, living near the coast
of N. Calif. *Trout in lakes and streams (flys in the stream), Trout from
both the boat and Kayak. *Plus California Halibut in SF bay. *Most in the
5-15# range, striped bass in the bay and delta, and I also fish out of San
Diego and SoCal ports. *Last week of July I went on a 7 day long range trip
out of Pt. Loma in San Diego. *Tuna and Yellowtail and some Dorado. *We
fished Rocas ilijos which is 467 miles from SD and 150 miles off Baja. *Need
good gear for these. *Plus both bait fish and fish jigs. *Tossing 5oz Sala's
and Tady jigs is both fun and takes decent rod and reel to handle the
casting. *Biggest fish on the trip was 105# and my jackpot fish was 95.6.http://www.pbase.com/q105/coastside_7_day* photo of me on the left with the
large Ahi.

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