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Canuck57[_9_] August 17th 11 04:27 PM

Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll...
 
On 16/08/2011 6:00 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:53:59 -0600,
wrote:

On 16/08/2011 4:54 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:59:18 -0600,
wrote:



Union people buy imported, don't see why we shouldn't. You worded the
above well. But let us not also forget the cost of government and
unions beyond the individual worker. The who cost model of USA for most
products is simply not there. Hydro, property taxes, water costs, fuel,
raw materials, management and of course labour are all non-competitive.

canuck's kinda stupid so he doesnt realize

-union membership is 5X higher in canada than it is in the US
-canada has lower unemployment than the US

gee. if his right wing economics were true, the US would have almost
no unemployment since we have almost no unions

but that's not the case, is it, moron?


Why is Europe so ****ed up?


Same reasons as the USA.

Too damed much debt, too much fraud money print and huge central bank
fraud backed by corrupt governments wanting just MORE DEBT!!


the moron is too stupid to realize debt is not the problem
'
proof?


Least depression affected economies in the world rack up less debt.
Trouble is you fleabaggers don't want to look at the obvious proof.
More debt and more money print fraud is more problems consistantly
through out the world.

if debt was the problem, no one would be buying US govt bonds


I don't. But many do, but the herd is not always right. German herd
backed Adolf, Alberta Head Smashed In Buffalo jump herded animals to
their death for 1000s of years and only the animals who didn't run with
the herd were spared.

Take 2008, I didn't own a single lending instrument, not a mutual, not a
bond, not a GIC, not a t-bill/csb, not a bank. Saved me a lot of losses
not owning paper.

US is enjoying a temporary influx of money from Europe, as it wants to
avoid pending Euro devaluation, but the fact is G8/20 is about devaluing
all western fiat fraud currencies at once. And why gold has done so
well. Teh effect is temporary.

but they are. by the bucketload. in fact T bill rates are at a record
low....about 1.25%

he's such an asshole


Give it 3 months. The fact is the central banks have created so much
money the very currency system is now at risk, and devaluing fast. At
some point hyper-inflation s coming to you. USA is stuck into a Japan's
lost decades like scenario.

Did you see Japan's and Germany's numbers? USA bull**** isn't going to
last long.

--
Flea party (leftie) fear, begets flea party smear.

Canuck57[_9_] August 17th 11 04:44 PM

Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll...
 
On 16/08/2011 6:04 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:52:11 -0600,
wrote:

On 16/08/2011 3:42 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:59:18 -0600,
wrote:



Union people buy imported, don't see why we shouldn't. You worded the
above well. But let us not also forget the cost of government and
unions beyond the individual worker. The who cost model of USA for most
products is simply not there. Hydro, property taxes, water costs, fuel,
raw materials, management and of course labour are all non-competitive.

canuck's kinda stupid so he doesnt realize

-union membership is 5X higher in canada than it is in the US


Didn't deny that at all. Government even legislated the recent lard
assed posties back to work.


dodging the issue. unions arent the problem


-canada has lower unemployment than the US


Because 1) our dollar has strengthened.


because you have unions

socialized medicine

and regulated your banks, unlike 'free market' america'



2) We have resources China
wants keeping our dollar worth something. 3) Not quite as much
government debt and less debt spending per capita than the USA. 4) Less
tax threats of hyper-taxation.


you guys are fighting the last war. inflation hasnt been above 3% for
10 years

moron


Yep, doesn't take much. Just a little more integrity.

Manufacturing part, wiped out just like the USA. Same reasons, stupid
costs and not enough profits. Just union larding. Most unemployed in
Canada are former union getting their wake up call.


HAHAHAH union larding. notice how he IGNORES the fact CANADA with
THIRTY PERCENT union membership has LOWER unemployment than the US??

WHAT AN IDIOT! there's NOTHING you can say to this idiot that will
make an impression!


gee. if his right wing economics were true, the US would have almost
no unemployment since we have almost no unions

but that's not the case, is it, moron?


China, India, Brazil, Chile, Australia and Canada are all doing better
than the USA. They all share having less debt, less deficit and less
money print fraud.


they all have strong unions except for 3rd world countries. and the US
is BECOMING a 3rd world country, courtesy of the right

debt isnt the problem, idiot. get it through your thick skull

debt is not the problem.


Yes they are. But agree in that the real problems are much bigger, but
their attitude towards the problem is a problem. The lunch bucket
mentality is counterproductive.

Watched big mouth Obama this afternoon. Blaming republicans for
stagnent DC, what did Obama do the first two years he was in??? Pick
his ass an nose with a democrat congress and a democrat senate?


HAHAHA he got what canada already has

universal healthcare

moron

racist scumbag


Ya, and it is failing. Have a growth in your gut? Better hope it isn't
cancerous as it might take 6 months to get it looked at. Or say your
vision, need an operation might be 2 years. 40% of the people where I
am don't have family doctors as they don't have enough of them.

Universal yes, good no. If it is routing bone sets or birth of future
taxpayers they are good at it. Anything to get you back to work paying
taxes. Your job status also is used to queue your wait status, yep
rationed services.

Government gets the taxes and the people get dumbed down services. Even
premiers like Newfoundland Williams goes to Florida not Canada for his
heart surgery. And look at the premier as the head of health care for
his province and does not use the services available to the commoner.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...dismissed.html

Know the RCMP are not investigation as it is their bosses we are talking
about and the arrangements are all made by untraceable means. But we
all know it happens. I have enough family members to see the patterns,
retired aunt waits 2 years, working uncle waits 3 weeks for the same op.
--
Flea party (leftie) fear, begets flea party smear.

Canuck57[_9_] August 17th 11 04:49 PM

Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll...
 
On 17/08/2011 3:58 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 23:21:22 -0600,
wrote:

On 16/08/2011 3:40 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:26:21 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

and how much does it cost to drive unemployment to 9% while increasing
your own salary by 500%?


When it is cheaper to obtain the raw materials, ship them over seas,
manufacture the goods, ship them back to the USA and sell them for less
then having the same goods manufactured in the USA, tell me why I should
use overpriced USA labor?

who says US labor is overpriced? compared to what? germans where per
hour labor costs are higher than the US because of UNIONS but they
STILL export MORE than we do??

you dont know much about economics, do you?


Look at your German economy, it is failing as is the Euro.



it's falling 'cuz of the PIIGS

you really dont know ****, do you?


J CU PIIIGGGS in DEBT!

(Japan, Canada, United States, Portugal, Italy, Iceland, Ireland,
Greece, Germany, Great Britain, Spain).

Don't forge the others. All the countries with major debt and economic
problems that come with fraud money print and excessive debt spend.

China, India, Russia, Brazil, Australia and others have fare less debt
spend and far less problems.
--
Flea party (leftie) fear, begets flea party smear.

[email protected] August 17th 11 07:09 PM

Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll...
 
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:27:30 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 16/08/2011 6:00 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:53:59 -0600,
wrote:

On 16/08/2011 4:54 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:59:18 -0600,
wrote:



Union people buy imported, don't see why we shouldn't. You worded the
above well. But let us not also forget the cost of government and
unions beyond the individual worker. The who cost model of USA for most
products is simply not there. Hydro, property taxes, water costs, fuel,
raw materials, management and of course labour are all non-competitive.

canuck's kinda stupid so he doesnt realize

-union membership is 5X higher in canada than it is in the US
-canada has lower unemployment than the US

gee. if his right wing economics were true, the US would have almost
no unemployment since we have almost no unions

but that's not the case, is it, moron?


Why is Europe so ****ed up?

Same reasons as the USA.

Too damed much debt, too much fraud money print and huge central bank
fraud backed by corrupt governments wanting just MORE DEBT!!


the moron is too stupid to realize debt is not the problem
'
proof?


Least depression affected economies in the world rack up less debt.
Trouble is you fleabaggers don't want to look at the obvious proof.
More debt and more money print fraud is more problems consistantly
through out the world.

if debt was the problem, no one would be buying US govt bonds


I don't. But many do, but the herd is not always right. German herd
backed Adolf, Alberta Head Smashed In Buffalo jump herded animals to
their death for 1000s of years and only the animals who didn't run with
the herd were spared.

Take 2008, I didn't own a single lending instrument, not a mutual, not a
bond, not a GIC, not a t-bill/csb, not a bank. Saved me a lot of losses
not owning paper.

US is enjoying a temporary influx of money from Europe, as it wants to
avoid pending Euro devaluation, but the fact is G8/20 is about devaluing
all western fiat fraud currencies at once. And why gold has done so
well. Teh effect is temporary.

but they are. by the bucketload. in fact T bill rates are at a record
low....about 1.25%

he's such an asshole


Give it 3 months. The fact is the central banks have created so much
money the very currency system is now at risk, and devaluing fast. At
some point hyper-inflation s coming to you. USA is stuck into a Japan's
lost decades like scenario.

Did you see Japan's and Germany's numbers? USA bull**** isn't going to
last long.


You are incredibly stupid.

[email protected] August 17th 11 07:10 PM

Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll...
 
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:15:25 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:56:15 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:26:21 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 08:01:06 -0400, BAR wrote:


especially the richest 1% who have done so much for the US in the last
3 years

How many people below the poverty line hired you for a long term job
within the last three years?

and how many people have the rich thrown out of work in the last 3
years?

we a stronger nation today than we were 3 years ago?

you right wingers are incredibly....blindingly stupid

Labor is a cost, you figure it out.

and how much does it cost to drive unemployment to 9% while increasing
your own salary by 500%?

My salary hasn't increased 500% in the last 2.5 years.


you bet it hasn't



When it is cheaper to obtain the raw materials, ship them over seas,
manufacture the goods, ship them back to the USA and sell them for less
then having the same goods manufactured in the USA, tell me why I should
use overpriced USA labor?

who says US labor is overpriced? compared to what? germans where per
hour labor costs are higher than the US because of UNIONS but they
STILL export MORE than we do??

you dont know much about economics, do you?

What durable goods are being manufactured in Europe?


if you substract foodstuffs, germany, with 30% union membership,
exports more than the US does

they have 1/4 of our population

and we have almost no unions


You still haven't answered the question. What durable goods are being
manufactured in Europe.


Why don't you Google it.

[email protected] August 17th 11 07:10 PM

Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll...
 
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:49:03 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 17/08/2011 3:58 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 23:21:22 -0600,
wrote:

On 16/08/2011 3:40 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:26:21 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

and how much does it cost to drive unemployment to 9% while increasing
your own salary by 500%?


When it is cheaper to obtain the raw materials, ship them over seas,
manufacture the goods, ship them back to the USA and sell them for less
then having the same goods manufactured in the USA, tell me why I should
use overpriced USA labor?

who says US labor is overpriced? compared to what? germans where per
hour labor costs are higher than the US because of UNIONS but they
STILL export MORE than we do??

you dont know much about economics, do you?

Look at your German economy, it is failing as is the Euro.



it's falling 'cuz of the PIIGS

you really dont know ****, do you?


J CU PIIIGGGS in DEBT!

(Japan, Canada, United States, Portugal, Italy, Iceland, Ireland,
Greece, Germany, Great Britain, Spain).

Don't forge the others. All the countries with major debt and economic
problems that come with fraud money print and excessive debt spend.

China, India, Russia, Brazil, Australia and others have fare less debt
spend and far less problems.


Whatever, racist little pig. Move to China, India, or Russia. Oh wait,
you wouldn't last 10 minutes.

iBoat Often August 17th 11 07:28 PM

Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll...
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:15:25 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:56:15 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:26:21 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 08:01:06 -0400, BAR wrote:


especially the richest 1% who have done so much for the US in the last
3 years

How many people below the poverty line hired you for a long term job
within the last three years?

and how many people have the rich thrown out of work in the last 3
years?

we a stronger nation today than we were 3 years ago?

you right wingers are incredibly....blindingly stupid

Labor is a cost, you figure it out.

and how much does it cost to drive unemployment to 9% while increasing
your own salary by 500%?

My salary hasn't increased 500% in the last 2.5 years.

you bet it hasn't



When it is cheaper to obtain the raw materials, ship them over seas,
manufacture the goods, ship them back to the USA and sell them for less
then having the same goods manufactured in the USA, tell me why I should
use overpriced USA labor?

who says US labor is overpriced? compared to what? germans where per
hour labor costs are higher than the US because of UNIONS but they
STILL export MORE than we do??

you dont know much about economics, do you?

What durable goods are being manufactured in Europe?

if you substract foodstuffs, germany, with 30% union membership,
exports more than the US does

they have 1/4 of our population

and we have almost no unions


You still haven't answered the question. What durable goods are being
manufactured in Europe.


Why don't you Google it.


In other words, you don't have a clue.

Canuck57[_9_] August 17th 11 07:29 PM

Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll...
 
On 17/08/2011 12:10 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:49:03 -0600,
wrote:

On 17/08/2011 3:58 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 23:21:22 -0600,
wrote:

On 16/08/2011 3:40 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:26:21 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

and how much does it cost to drive unemployment to 9% while increasing
your own salary by 500%?


When it is cheaper to obtain the raw materials, ship them over seas,
manufacture the goods, ship them back to the USA and sell them for less
then having the same goods manufactured in the USA, tell me why I should
use overpriced USA labor?

who says US labor is overpriced? compared to what? germans where per
hour labor costs are higher than the US because of UNIONS but they
STILL export MORE than we do??

you dont know much about economics, do you?

Look at your German economy, it is failing as is the Euro.


it's falling 'cuz of the PIIGS

you really dont know ****, do you?


J CU PIIIGGGS in DEBT!

(Japan, Canada, United States, Portugal, Italy, Iceland, Ireland,
Greece, Germany, Great Britain, Spain).

Don't forge the others. All the countries with major debt and economic
problems that come with fraud money print and excessive debt spend.

China, India, Russia, Brazil, Australia and others have fare less debt
spend and far less problems.


Whatever, racist little pig. Move to China, India, or Russia. Oh wait,
you wouldn't last 10 minutes.


I might movet o one of Brazil, Costa Rica, Panama or Ecuador. Taking 2
winter vacations a year now to figure out my next home.

Best part of not having a criminal record like you is that I can travel.
--
Flea party (leftie) fear, begets flea party smear.

wf3h[_2_] August 18th 11 12:59 AM

Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll...
 
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:27:30 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 16/08/2011 6:00 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:53:59 -0600,
wrote:



Why is Europe so ****ed up?

Same reasons as the USA.

Too damed much debt, too much fraud money print and huge central bank
fraud backed by corrupt governments wanting just MORE DEBT!!


the moron is too stupid to realize debt is not the problem
'
proof?


Least depression affected economies in the world rack up less debt.


japan has more debt than greece

japan is not close do default

you keep getting your bull**** info from right wing talk radio

Trouble is you fleabaggers don't want to look at the obvious proof.
More debt and more money print fraud is more problems consistantly
through out the world.


t bills are paying 1.25% right now. we could borrow a TRILLON
dollar...enough to put 20 MILLION middle class people to work

and the increase in debt service would be 12.5 billion

you cant even do the math


if debt was the problem, no one would be buying US govt bonds


I don't. But many do, but the herd is not always right.


HAHAHAH first he says NO ONE is buying US debt

now he says EVERYONE is but HE is right

HAHAHAHAH!!




Take 2008, I didn't own a single lending instrument, not a mutual, not a
bond, not a GIC, not a t-bill/csb, not a bank. Saved me a lot of losses
not owning paper.


no one gives a **** about your reader's digest stories.

canada has a more socialist economy than the US and it has LOWER
unemployment and LOWER debt

golly...see a connection there? the US has a MORE FREE MARKET economy
than canada

and we're doing worse


but they are. by the bucketload. in fact T bill rates are at a record
low....about 1.25%

he's such an asshole


Give it 3 months.


HAHAHAHA you said that

3 months ago!


wf3h[_2_] August 18th 11 01:01 AM

Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll...
 
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:44:47 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 16/08/2011 6:04 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:52:11 -0600,
wrote:

debt isnt the problem, idiot. get it through your thick skull

debt is not the problem.


Yes they are. But agree in that the real problems are much bigger, but
their attitude towards the problem is a problem. The lunch bucket
mentality is counterproductive.


meaningless


Watched big mouth Obama this afternoon. Blaming republicans for
stagnent DC, what did Obama do the first two years he was in??? Pick
his ass an nose with a democrat congress and a democrat senate?


HAHAHA he got what canada already has

universal healthcare

moron

racist scumbag


Ya, and it is failing. Have a growth in your gut? Better hope it isn't
cancerous as it might take 6 months to get it looked at. Or say your
vision, need an operation might be 2 years. 40% of the people where I
am don't have family doctors as they don't have enough of them.


IOW you live in a country that, by right wing standards is socialist

you're doing better than we are

and you're telling us we have to get MORE free market!

HAHAHAHAHA


Universal yes, good no. If it is routing bone sets or birth of future
taxpayers they are good at it. Anything to get you back to work paying
taxes. Your job status also is used to queue your wait status, yep y
rationed services.


live expectancy in canada is as high as the US

you're just a bull****ter with your readers digest stories


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