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Corporate America Pays a Lot Less in Taxes Than You Think!
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:15:47 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 06/08/2011 11:20 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 09:46:59 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 03:07:19 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:48:39 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:44:05 -0400, wrote: So, again you're advocating breaking the law. Typical little **** response. Not at all, it is legal in Mexico and Canada. Nobody melts these coins to extract the silver. "melt weight" is just an indication of how much silver is there to peg the price I guess plum thinks people have to melt, Eagles, Maple Leafs or Kruggerrands to get their money out of them too. So, then when you said your quarters were not particularly good quality, you weren't giving us the full story? Who do you plan to sell them to? Who would buy them if they weren't good quality? How are you going to use the increase in the value of the silver? Sounds like you're just making stuff up and still hiding. The regular coinage that increases in value have collector value. You claimed these don't and you bought them for the silver value. It sounds like you don't have a clue. They trade at the equivalent melt weight of the silver quite easily. Maybe you should go try to buy some and see what you pay. BTW I am not "hiding", I am just not interested in wasting my time with you. And with good reason, as she's demonstrated in this very thread. Well done on the coins. My brother bought a few pounds of silver ingots about twenty years ago. Then the bottom dropped out of the silver market. Now he's glad he held on to them. Just as you've demonstrated with nearly every post that you're a racist asshole and a liar. Whooo... you like his quarters and your brother has some silver. I bet you can make some great soup out of that! Hate to bust your water but most people here just view you as a dummb****. Hate to bust your water, but you ARE a dumb****. - note spelling. |
Corporate America Pays a Lot Less in Taxes Than You Think!
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:11:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 06/08/2011 12:48 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:44:05 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:04:12 -0600, wrote: On 05/08/2011 11:56 AM, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:05:38 -0600, wrote: On 05/08/2011 12:39 AM, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:19:54 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:21:00 -0400, X - wrote: On 8/4/11 8:10 PM, wrote: You would have locked in that 12700 Dow and be grinning while you watched this crash from the sidelines. At some point, American small investors are going to realize the stock market is a fraud, and they'll look elsewhere to invest their retirement and savings assets. BTW, unlike you and Canuckles, I don't seen anything humorous about a stock slide. What it does is hurt small investors. Perhaps "grin" was a poor choice of words but it was clear to me that there was a serious correction coming when this debt thing started and I was relieved that I did not have to go down with that ship. I have cashed in most of my personally held equities and I reallocated my funds. I am going to sit on side for a while and wait for some positive news coming out of the economy before I get back in the market again. I have a feeling that might be a while. There may be a few trades that you can play with but I am not even willing to look at this mess right now. Things are far too uncertain and I don't see anything coming out if DC that is going to make that any better any time soon. That $5000 bag of quarters I keep getting **** about may easily go over $30,000 by Christmas. I hope not because that would imply the value of the dollar dropped significantly. Well, I'm sure your oracle-like traits are just kicking in. So, how are you going to cash in your $30K wealth? Perhaps illegally melt down the quarters? I'm still waiting for your reasoned response. How are you planning on separating the silver from the copper in that case? To whom do you expect to sell your quarters if not? Are you going to try and buy a car in quarters? No, I don't expect any reasoned response. Melt it. When he decides to sell, the buyer will cut 10 or 15%, factor in copper versus silver and decide the rate. It will not go down in value to the USD. So, again you're advocating breaking the law. Typical little **** response. Not at all, it is legal in Mexico and Canada. Nobody melts these coins to extract the silver. "melt weight" is just an indication of how much silver is there to peg the price I guess plum thinks people have to melt, Eagles, Maple Leafs or Kruggerrands to get their money out of them too. So, then when you said your quarters were not particularly good quality, you weren't giving us the full story? Who do you plan to sell them to? Who would buy them if they weren't good quality? How are you going to use the increase in the value of the silver? Sounds like you're just making stuff up and still hiding. The regular coinage that increases in value have collector value. You claimed these don't and you bought them for the silver value. Put it simple, those coins will hold value. US currency is failing, Bernanke-Obama will assure its rapid decline as a world currency. China just bounced the US held Chinese credit card. http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...ebt-china.html Just in case CNN liberals down play it, your credit is dicipating quick. No one lends US treasury money, Bernanke just prints it. Put it simple?? Whatever. You are simple. To put it simply, they hold their value but are not liquid. You're continuing to impress me with your stupidity. |
Corporate America Pays a Lot Less in Taxes Than You Think!
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:24:31 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 06/08/2011 11:22 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 04:40:31 -0400, wrote: On 8/6/2011 3:02 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:44:05 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:04:12 -0600, wrote: On 05/08/2011 11:56 AM, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:05:38 -0600, wrote: On 05/08/2011 12:39 AM, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:19:54 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:21:00 -0400, X - wrote: On 8/4/11 8:10 PM, wrote: You would have locked in that 12700 Dow and be grinning while you watched this crash from the sidelines. At some point, American small investors are going to realize the stock market is a fraud, and they'll look elsewhere to invest their retirement and savings assets. BTW, unlike you and Canuckles, I don't seen anything humorous about a stock slide. What it does is hurt small investors. Perhaps "grin" was a poor choice of words but it was clear to me that there was a serious correction coming when this debt thing started and I was relieved that I did not have to go down with that ship. I have cashed in most of my personally held equities and I reallocated my funds. I am going to sit on side for a while and wait for some positive news coming out of the economy before I get back in the market again. I have a feeling that might be a while. There may be a few trades that you can play with but I am not even willing to look at this mess right now. Things are far too uncertain and I don't see anything coming out if DC that is going to make that any better any time soon. That $5000 bag of quarters I keep getting **** about may easily go over $30,000 by Christmas. I hope not because that would imply the value of the dollar dropped significantly. Well, I'm sure your oracle-like traits are just kicking in. So, how are you going to cash in your $30K wealth? Perhaps illegally melt down the quarters? I'm still waiting for your reasoned response. How are you planning on separating the silver from the copper in that case? To whom do you expect to sell your quarters if not? Are you going to try and buy a car in quarters? No, I don't expect any reasoned response. Melt it. When he decides to sell, the buyer will cut 10 or 15%, factor in copper versus silver and decide the rate. It will not go down in value to the USD. So, again you're advocating breaking the law. Typical little **** response. Not at all, it is legal in Mexico and Canada. Nobody melts these coins to extract the silver. "melt weight" is just an indication of how much silver is there to peg the price I guess plum thinks people have to melt, Eagles, Maple Leafs or Kruggerrands to get their money out of them too. Here's what you wrote in case you forgot: "These are not really collector grade coins. They have the worse than the normal wear you see on the ones in your pocket. I am sure they were picked over, looking for collectable dates, many times before they made it to the "melt weight" bag." So, how are you going to sell them for their "value"? Get educated: http://www.coinflation.com/silver_coin_values.html Well, you don't need to get any more stupid. Greg is promoting it as better than cash. So, why would he sell them for cash? What's it going to get him? He can't eat the silver. It is over the long term. It isn't over the short term. Imagine if you spent $1000 on gold in 1933 at $20 an ounce. Today that 50 ounces would be worth at least $83,000. But your $1000 in fiat paper would still only be $1000. Cash is a rapidly depreciating asset due to bank and government fraud. Over the long term, if you're nutcase theory about the end of America were true, the "value" of the quarters be worthless. Feel free to buy your next car in "silver" quarters and try to convince the salesperson that they're worth more than 25 cents. |
Corporate America Pays a Lot Less in Taxes Than You Think!
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:21:41 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 06/08/2011 2:40 AM, Disgusted wrote: On 8/6/2011 3:02 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:44:05 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:04:12 -0600, wrote: On 05/08/2011 11:56 AM, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:05:38 -0600, wrote: On 05/08/2011 12:39 AM, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:19:54 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:21:00 -0400, X - wrote: On 8/4/11 8:10 PM, wrote: You would have locked in that 12700 Dow and be grinning while you watched this crash from the sidelines. At some point, American small investors are going to realize the stock market is a fraud, and they'll look elsewhere to invest their retirement and savings assets. BTW, unlike you and Canuckles, I don't seen anything humorous about a stock slide. What it does is hurt small investors. Perhaps "grin" was a poor choice of words but it was clear to me that there was a serious correction coming when this debt thing started and I was relieved that I did not have to go down with that ship. I have cashed in most of my personally held equities and I reallocated my funds. I am going to sit on side for a while and wait for some positive news coming out of the economy before I get back in the market again. I have a feeling that might be a while. There may be a few trades that you can play with but I am not even willing to look at this mess right now. Things are far too uncertain and I don't see anything coming out if DC that is going to make that any better any time soon. That $5000 bag of quarters I keep getting **** about may easily go over $30,000 by Christmas. I hope not because that would imply the value of the dollar dropped significantly. Well, I'm sure your oracle-like traits are just kicking in. So, how are you going to cash in your $30K wealth? Perhaps illegally melt down the quarters? I'm still waiting for your reasoned response. How are you planning on separating the silver from the copper in that case? To whom do you expect to sell your quarters if not? Are you going to try and buy a car in quarters? No, I don't expect any reasoned response. Melt it. When he decides to sell, the buyer will cut 10 or 15%, factor in copper versus silver and decide the rate. It will not go down in value to the USD. So, again you're advocating breaking the law. Typical little **** response. Not at all, it is legal in Mexico and Canada. Nobody melts these coins to extract the silver. "melt weight" is just an indication of how much silver is there to peg the price I guess plum thinks people have to melt, Eagles, Maple Leafs or Kruggerrands to get their money out of them too. Here's what you wrote in case you forgot: "These are not really collector grade coins. They have the worse than the normal wear you see on the ones in your pocket. I am sure they were picked over, looking for collectable dates, many times before they made it to the "melt weight" bag." So, how are you going to sell them for their "value"? Get educated: http://www.coinflation.com/silver_coin_values.html Mint packaged collector editions of the 1990 one ounce silver maple leafs I have, never fingered and not bulk packaged with scratches, flawless condition, I am sure are worth $40 in metal. I paid $5.20 each for them. Only wish I bought a 1000. Except Greg specifically said they're not collector quality. You never bought any silver anything. Prove it. Lay them all out, take a picture, and post it. I'm sure you can borrow a camera from someone. (Hint: use a digital camera) |
Corporate America Pays a Lot Less in Taxes Than You Think!
On 8/6/11 7:04 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:21:41 -0600, wrote: On 06/08/2011 2:40 AM, Disgusted wrote: On 8/6/2011 3:02 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:44:05 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:04:12 -0600, wrote: On 05/08/2011 11:56 AM, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:05:38 -0600, wrote: On 05/08/2011 12:39 AM, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:19:54 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:21:00 -0400, X - wrote: On 8/4/11 8:10 PM, wrote: You would have locked in that 12700 Dow and be grinning while you watched this crash from the sidelines. At some point, American small investors are going to realize the stock market is a fraud, and they'll look elsewhere to invest their retirement and savings assets. BTW, unlike you and Canuckles, I don't seen anything humorous about a stock slide. What it does is hurt small investors. Perhaps "grin" was a poor choice of words but it was clear to me that there was a serious correction coming when this debt thing started and I was relieved that I did not have to go down with that ship. I have cashed in most of my personally held equities and I reallocated my funds. I am going to sit on side for a while and wait for some positive news coming out of the economy before I get back in the market again. I have a feeling that might be a while. There may be a few trades that you can play with but I am not even willing to look at this mess right now. Things are far too uncertain and I don't see anything coming out if DC that is going to make that any better any time soon. That $5000 bag of quarters I keep getting **** about may easily go over $30,000 by Christmas. I hope not because that would imply the value of the dollar dropped significantly. Well, I'm sure your oracle-like traits are just kicking in. So, how are you going to cash in your $30K wealth? Perhaps illegally melt down the quarters? I'm still waiting for your reasoned response. How are you planning on separating the silver from the copper in that case? To whom do you expect to sell your quarters if not? Are you going to try and buy a car in quarters? No, I don't expect any reasoned response. Melt it. When he decides to sell, the buyer will cut 10 or 15%, factor in copper versus silver and decide the rate. It will not go down in value to the USD. So, again you're advocating breaking the law. Typical little **** response. Not at all, it is legal in Mexico and Canada. Nobody melts these coins to extract the silver. "melt weight" is just an indication of how much silver is there to peg the price I guess plum thinks people have to melt, Eagles, Maple Leafs or Kruggerrands to get their money out of them too. Here's what you wrote in case you forgot: "These are not really collector grade coins. They have the worse than the normal wear you see on the ones in your pocket. I am sure they were picked over, looking for collectable dates, many times before they made it to the "melt weight" bag." So, how are you going to sell them for their "value"? Get educated: http://www.coinflation.com/silver_coin_values.html Mint packaged collector editions of the 1990 one ounce silver maple leafs I have, never fingered and not bulk packaged with scratches, flawless condition, I am sure are worth $40 in metal. I paid $5.20 each for them. Only wish I bought a 1000. Except Greg specifically said they're not collector quality. You never bought any silver anything. Prove it. Lay them all out, take a picture, and post it. I'm sure you can borrow a camera from someone. (Hint: use a digital camera) He's probably got a silver amalgam filling. My grandfathers gave me a small bagful of Morgan silver dollars at every birthday. They started collecting them shortly after they arrived in America. I guess it was a thing to do back then. Anyway, I still have them all, the ones they gave me and the ones my parents inherited when their parents died. I forgot how many there were, quite a few, and they live in a big safety deposit box at the bank, along with some other stuff. Some of them date back to the late 19th Century, others are from the early 20th Century. I wouldn't think of selling them...they'll be passed along at the appropriate time. -- Don't forget to leave a bit of beef for rec.boat's right-wing conservatrashers and ID spoofers to feed upon. The more they feed, the quicker rec.boats will fall into the black hole of cyberspace and disappear. |
Corporate America Pays a Lot Less in Taxes Than You Think!
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:06:30 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 10:18:55 -0700, wrote: So, then when you said your quarters were not particularly good quality, you weren't giving us the full story? Who do you plan to sell them to? Who would buy them if they weren't good quality? How are you going to use the increase in the value of the silver? Sounds like you're just making stuff up and still hiding. The regular coinage that increases in value have collector value. You claimed these don't and you bought them for the silver value. It sounds like you don't have a clue. They trade at the equivalent melt weight of the silver quite easily. Maybe you should go try to buy some and see what you pay. BTW I am not "hiding", I am just not interested in wasting my time with you. Trade for what? Food? Maybe if the **** really hit the fan and there was a hyper inflation situation but it would be quite easy to simply sell them for greenbacks for a nice tax free profit without any more calamity than we are having right now. Ok. So, they would go up endlessly? I doubt it. Precious metal prices rise and fall. I'm not familiar with the tax code, but I don't see how you can avoid paying tax on the profit, unless there was some inheritance involved. http://www.pocketchangelottery.com/article310.htm |
Corporate America Pays a Lot Less in Taxes Than You Think!
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:18:47 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:24:31 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: On 06/08/2011 11:22 AM, wrote: Well, you don't need to get any more stupid. Greg is promoting it as better than cash. So, why would he sell them for cash? What's it going to get him? He can't eat the silver. It is over the long term. It isn't over the short term. Imagine if you spent $1000 on gold in 1933 at $20 an ounce. Today that 50 ounces would be worth at least $83,000. But your $1000 in fiat paper would still only be $1000. Cash is a rapidly depreciating asset due to bank and government fraud. A thousand dollars at today's prices would have been worth about $16,000 in 1933 when you factor in the inflation. In the other hand the Dow was trading in the low 50s so if you bought a good portfolio of stocks you would be doing real well. If you didn't have too much GM. Or, if you sold GM at the right moment.... |
Corporate America Pays a Lot Less in Taxes Than You Think!
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:23:40 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:46:41 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:18:47 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:24:31 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: On 06/08/2011 11:22 AM, wrote: Well, you don't need to get any more stupid. Greg is promoting it as better than cash. So, why would he sell them for cash? What's it going to get him? He can't eat the silver. It is over the long term. It isn't over the short term. Imagine if you spent $1000 on gold in 1933 at $20 an ounce. Today that 50 ounces would be worth at least $83,000. But your $1000 in fiat paper would still only be $1000. Cash is a rapidly depreciating asset due to bank and government fraud. A thousand dollars at today's prices would have been worth about $16,000 in 1933 when you factor in the inflation. In the other hand the Dow was trading in the low 50s so if you bought a good portfolio of stocks you would be doing real well. If you didn't have too much GM. Or, if you sold GM at the right moment.... Are you saying you CAN time the market? Not at all. I seem to recall you saying that, however. :) |
Corporate America Pays a Lot Less in Taxes Than You Think!
On 06/08/2011 5:03 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:24:31 -0600, wrote: On 06/08/2011 11:22 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 04:40:31 -0400, wrote: On 8/6/2011 3:02 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:44:05 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:04:12 -0600, wrote: On 05/08/2011 11:56 AM, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:05:38 -0600, wrote: On 05/08/2011 12:39 AM, wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:19:54 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:21:00 -0400, X - wrote: On 8/4/11 8:10 PM, wrote: You would have locked in that 12700 Dow and be grinning while you watched this crash from the sidelines. At some point, American small investors are going to realize the stock market is a fraud, and they'll look elsewhere to invest their retirement and savings assets. BTW, unlike you and Canuckles, I don't seen anything humorous about a stock slide. What it does is hurt small investors. Perhaps "grin" was a poor choice of words but it was clear to me that there was a serious correction coming when this debt thing started and I was relieved that I did not have to go down with that ship. I have cashed in most of my personally held equities and I reallocated my funds. I am going to sit on side for a while and wait for some positive news coming out of the economy before I get back in the market again. I have a feeling that might be a while. There may be a few trades that you can play with but I am not even willing to look at this mess right now. Things are far too uncertain and I don't see anything coming out if DC that is going to make that any better any time soon. That $5000 bag of quarters I keep getting **** about may easily go over $30,000 by Christmas. I hope not because that would imply the value of the dollar dropped significantly. Well, I'm sure your oracle-like traits are just kicking in. So, how are you going to cash in your $30K wealth? Perhaps illegally melt down the quarters? I'm still waiting for your reasoned response. How are you planning on separating the silver from the copper in that case? To whom do you expect to sell your quarters if not? Are you going to try and buy a car in quarters? No, I don't expect any reasoned response. Melt it. When he decides to sell, the buyer will cut 10 or 15%, factor in copper versus silver and decide the rate. It will not go down in value to the USD. So, again you're advocating breaking the law. Typical little **** response. Not at all, it is legal in Mexico and Canada. Nobody melts these coins to extract the silver. "melt weight" is just an indication of how much silver is there to peg the price I guess plum thinks people have to melt, Eagles, Maple Leafs or Kruggerrands to get their money out of them too. Here's what you wrote in case you forgot: "These are not really collector grade coins. They have the worse than the normal wear you see on the ones in your pocket. I am sure they were picked over, looking for collectable dates, many times before they made it to the "melt weight" bag." So, how are you going to sell them for their "value"? Get educated: http://www.coinflation.com/silver_coin_values.html Well, you don't need to get any more stupid. Greg is promoting it as better than cash. So, why would he sell them for cash? What's it going to get him? He can't eat the silver. It is over the long term. It isn't over the short term. Imagine if you spent $1000 on gold in 1933 at $20 an ounce. Today that 50 ounces would be worth at least $83,000. But your $1000 in fiat paper would still only be $1000. Cash is a rapidly depreciating asset due to bank and government fraud. Over the long term, if you're nutcase theory about the end of America were true, the "value" of the quarters be worthless. First, it isn't the end of America and the sky isn't going to fall. Unless of course you are Hank Johnson perhaps. What will happen is a marked lower of standard of living for 90% of Americans. Feel free to buy your next car in "silver" quarters and try to convince the salesperson that they're worth more than 25 cents. Funny, bet my gold buys more car in 10 years than that depreciating USD. Pretty safe bet as cars have never been cheaper in terms of depreciating currency in any 10 year period of time since they made the first one. -- Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution. |
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