On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:21:04 -0400, BAR wrote:

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On 31/07/2011 7:54 AM, Beach Bum wrote:
On 7/31/2011 9:34 AM, John H wrote:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit
is a sign of leadership
failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own
bills. It is a sign that we now
depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to
finance our Government's reckless
fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and
internationally. Leadership
means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the
burden of bad choices today
onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt
problem and a failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better.



Barack Hussein Obama on the Debt Limit, 16 March 2006


That was pretty bright of him in 2006.

It's time for a reillumination.

Somebody up there in the White House needs to act presidential and grab
the reins.

Yes, but Bernanke didn't pull his strings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernanke_Doctrine

Bernanke Doctrine? There is no Bernanke Doctrine, the guy is just trying
anything and everything Keynesian.

The reality is US DC government is kissing the banks ass. Perhaps
congress should fire Bernanke.

That is obvious. Bernanke is a one trick pony.

There is a reason why Bernake is being real quiet, he pulls all the
strings on Obama and the democrats.


After Bush screwed the economy for 8 years, there are very few
choices. Feel free to blame Obama, however.

On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:51:05 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

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It's time for a reillumination.

Somebody up there in the White House needs to act presidential and grab
the reins.

Yes, but Bernanke didn't pull his strings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernanke_Doctrine

The reality is US DC government is kissing the banks ass. Perhaps
congress should fire Bernanke.

There is a reason why Bernake is being real quiet, he pulls all the
strings on Obama and the democrats.
\\t\\\


the racist tirade against obama continues

the racist scumbags ignore the fact

1. bush created 5 trillion in unfunded long term debt

2. obama created 1.4 trillion

3 bush cut taxes for the rich

4 bush got us into a 3 trillion dollar war

but it's easier to blame it on the darkie. that way right wingers dont
have to think

On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:34:10 -0400, John H
wrote:


The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership
failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now
depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless
fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership
means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today
onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better.



Barack Hussein Obama on the Debt Limit, 16 March 2006

Except that there are symbolic votes taken all the time in Congress.
His was a symbolic vote, not one that would destroy the US economy.

This is a 100% manufactured crisis by the Republicans, specifically
the teabaggers. The debt ceiling is about paying the bills we already
owe. This is completely separate from incurring new bills.

On 31/07/2011 7:34 AM, John H wrote:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership
failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now
depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless
fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership
means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today
onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better.



Barack Hussein Obama on the Debt Limit, 16 March 2006

Obama no longer relies on foreigners to lend the government money. In
fact foreigners have been steadily decreasing their direct US treasury
holding in the last year or so. China is down from over $2T to 1.6.

Bernanke QE electronically counterfeits it and in he ruse of solvency,
buys the T-bills or pays off foreigners when their treasuries come up
with the no-value inflationary money. A total criminal fraud really.

Good find on the Obama hypocritical liar piece of **** he is. Man has
no integrity or values. Certainly not true to his word as he has had 2
1/2 year to stop th insanity but has at every step only made it worse.

Obama-Bernanke-Democrats, selling out and ruining the USA with DEBT.
Obama, doing what Osama could not do.

What Lincoln would say:

==
Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step over the
ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! -- All the armies of Europe, Asia
and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own
excepted) in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander,
could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the
Blue Ridge, in a trial of a Thousand years. At what point, then, is the
approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it
must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction
be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation
of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

by:

Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
==

And this debt is economic suicide.

--
Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.

On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:26:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 31/07/2011 7:34 AM, John H wrote:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership
failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now
depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless
fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership
means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today
onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better.



Barack Hussein Obama on the Debt Limit, 16 March 2006

Obama no longer relies on foreigners to lend the government money. In
fact foreigners have been steadily decreasing their direct US treasury
holding in the last year or so. China is down from over $2T to 1.6.

Bernanke QE electronically counterfeits it and in he ruse of solvency,
buys the T-bills or pays off foreigners when their treasuries come up
with the no-value inflationary money. A total criminal fraud really.

Good find on the Obama hypocritical liar piece of **** he is. Man has
no integrity or values. Certainly not true to his word as he has had 2
1/2 year to stop th insanity but has at every step only made it worse.

Obama-Bernanke-Democrats, selling out and ruining the USA with DEBT.
Obama, doing what Osama could not do.

What Lincoln would say:

==
Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step over the
ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! -- All the armies of Europe, Asia
and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own
excepted) in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander,
could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the
Blue Ridge, in a trial of a Thousand years. At what point, then, is the
approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it
must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction
be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation
of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

by:

Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
==

And this debt is economic suicide.

You are an irrational racist ****.

On 31/07/2011 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:26:57 -0600,
wrote:

On 31/07/2011 7:34 AM, John H wrote:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership
failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now
depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless
fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership
means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today
onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better.



Barack Hussein Obama on the Debt Limit, 16 March 2006

Obama no longer relies on foreigners to lend the government money. In
fact foreigners have been steadily decreasing their direct US treasury
holding in the last year or so. China is down from over $2T to 1.6.

Bernanke QE electronically counterfeits it and in he ruse of solvency,
buys the T-bills or pays off foreigners when their treasuries come up
with the no-value inflationary money. A total criminal fraud really.

Good find on the Obama hypocritical liar piece of **** he is. Man has
no integrity or values. Certainly not true to his word as he has had 2
1/2 year to stop th insanity but has at every step only made it worse.

Obama-Bernanke-Democrats, selling out and ruining the USA with DEBT.
Obama, doing what Osama could not do.

What Lincoln would say:

==
Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step over the
ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! -- All the armies of Europe, Asia
and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own
excepted) in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander,
could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the
Blue Ridge, in a trial of a Thousand years. At what point, then, is the
approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it
must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction
be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation
of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

by:

Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
==

And this debt is economic suicide.

You are an irrational racist ****.

Hey, if it were not for Lincoln you might be slave labor and not allowed
to breed.

Racism is yours.
--
Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.

On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:07:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 31/07/2011 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:26:57 -0600,
wrote:

On 31/07/2011 7:34 AM, John H wrote:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership
failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now
depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless
fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership
means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today
onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better.



Barack Hussein Obama on the Debt Limit, 16 March 2006

Obama no longer relies on foreigners to lend the government money. In
fact foreigners have been steadily decreasing their direct US treasury
holding in the last year or so. China is down from over $2T to 1.6.

Bernanke QE electronically counterfeits it and in he ruse of solvency,
buys the T-bills or pays off foreigners when their treasuries come up
with the no-value inflationary money. A total criminal fraud really.

Good find on the Obama hypocritical liar piece of **** he is. Man has
no integrity or values. Certainly not true to his word as he has had 2
1/2 year to stop th insanity but has at every step only made it worse.

Obama-Bernanke-Democrats, selling out and ruining the USA with DEBT.
Obama, doing what Osama could not do.

What Lincoln would say:

==
Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step over the
ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! -- All the armies of Europe, Asia
and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own
excepted) in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander,
could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the
Blue Ridge, in a trial of a Thousand years. At what point, then, is the
approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it
must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction
be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation
of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

by:

Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
==

And this debt is economic suicide.

You are an irrational racist ****.

Hey, if it were not for Lincoln you might be slave labor and not allowed
to breed.

Racism is yours.

You're a moron and a racist.

John H wrote:
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership
failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now
depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless
fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership
means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today
onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better.



Barack Hussein Obama on the Debt Limit, 16 March 2006

Yup. And he's the first to offer money to countries that don't need it.

On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:08:03 -0400, L G wrote:

John H wrote:
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership
failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now
depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless
fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership
means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today
onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better.



Barack Hussein Obama on the Debt Limit, 16 March 2006

Yup. And he's the first to offer money to countries that don't need it.
\

let's see...bush spent 2 TRILLION in iraq

did they need it? perhaps they used it to bury the 4400 US troops bush
killed there

On 03/08/2011 8:21 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:08:03 -0400, L wrote:

John H wrote:
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership
failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now
depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless
fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership
means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today
onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better.



Barack Hussein Obama on the Debt Limit, 16 March 2006

Yup. And he's the first to offer money to countries that don't need it.
\

let's see...bush spent 2 TRILLION in iraq

did they need it? perhaps they used it to bury the 4400 US troops bush
killed there

And Obama has spent more. Your point? Obama is Bush in a different
color? Or Obama is as least as corrupt as Bush? Oh wait, it didn't
take Obama 2 years to debt-spend more than Bush in 8. So what is your
point?

As for dead soldiers, looks like on CNN your into the 6000+ range, 6151
if memory serves right. And that does not include UK, Canada and others
which might put it as high as 10,000.

Just another Obama failed promise, as they are still there. Maybe Obama
should kick the soap box and shake his ass.
--
Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.