Past couple of years I've been pouring straight SAE30 into my "77 ford
302 gasoline engine. It's was coming from a barrel which I laid my
hands on several years ago. The label on the barrel actually says:
"Shell High performance diesel engine oil X30"

I've never actually experienced any problems with this oil. As a
matter of fact, I've never experienced any problems with this engine
whatsoever.
But now the bottom of the barrel is showing and so I have to go
shopping for oil again.
Any suggestions for a suitable oil type or brand ? Or should I go for
the same old stuff again.

Since I only use the boat during the summer I never really saw the
point in using a multigrade oil.

Ford says to use 30W above 32F and 40 weight above 50f or 20W40 20w50 above
+20F, I use straight 30W in my 351W. I use whatever name brand oil is on
sale when I need another case.
Bill

"alex" wrote in message
...
Past couple of years I've been pouring straight SAE30 into my "77 ford
302 gasoline engine. It's was coming from a barrel which I laid my
hands on several years ago. The label on the barrel actually says:
"Shell High performance diesel engine oil X30"

I've never actually experienced any problems with this oil. As a
matter of fact, I've never experienced any problems with this engine
whatsoever.
But now the bottom of the barrel is showing and so I have to go
shopping for oil again.
Any suggestions for a suitable oil type or brand ? Or should I go for
the same old stuff again.

Since I only use the boat during the summer I never really saw the
point in using a multigrade oil.

Gene Kearns wrote:


Oh.... PS.... not counting Pennsylvania crudes in this argument....
IMHO, they suck....

Rather less than humble it seems.

Would you care to enlighten the rest of us as to why Pennsylvania crudes
make, in your opinion?

That opinion doesn't seem to hold much sway within the industry. What do
you know that the refiners don't?

Rick

Rick wrote:

Would you care to enlighten the rest of us as to why Pennsylvania crudes
make, in your opinion?

Oops, dropped a line there ... should read:

.... makes less than perfect lube oil ...

Rick

(alex) wrote in message ...
Past couple of years I've been pouring straight SAE30 into my "77 ford
302 gasoline engine. It's was coming from a barrel which I laid my
hands on several years ago. The label on the barrel actually says:
"Shell High performance diesel engine oil X30"

I've never actually experienced any problems with this oil. As a
matter of fact, I've never experienced any problems with this engine
whatsoever.
But now the bottom of the barrel is showing and so I have to go
shopping for oil again.
Any suggestions for a suitable oil type or brand ? Or should I go for
the same old stuff again.

Since I only use the boat during the summer I never really saw the
point in using a multigrade oil.

Good idea using a straight weight. I recommend straight weight for
most engines that often sit for days or more between uses, as do most
recreational boat engines.

If you want to stick with heavy duty oil that is "formulated" for
diesels, you might look at Chevron DELO 400. I use DELO 400 SAE30 in
my old 283s. It's also available in 15W40 for those that want
multiweight. Costco has been selling DELO, but I think only in
multiweight.

Hi Alex,

That oil you have been using is very high detergent oil for diesel motors.
You might want to get some more of it.

My uncle is a very good long term mechanic and he said that all oil was good
but to change it and the filter often.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA
www.kiene.com

"alex" wrote in message
...

Past couple of years I've been pouring straight SAE30 into my "77 ford
302 gasoline engine. It's was coming from a barrel which I laid my
hands on several years ago. The label on the barrel actually says:
"Shell High performance diesel engine oil X30"

I've never actually experienced any problems with this oil. As a
matter of fact, I've never experienced any problems with this engine
whatsoever.
But now the bottom of the barrel is showing and so I have to go
shopping for oil again.
Any suggestions for a suitable oil type or brand ? Or should I go for
the same old stuff again.

Since I only use the boat during the summer I never really saw the
point in using a multigrade oil.

Rick wrote in message hlink.net...
Rick wrote:

Would you care to enlighten the rest of us as to why Pennsylvania crudes
make, in your opinion?

Oops, dropped a line there ... should read:

... makes less than perfect lube oil ...

Rick

I can! Oils from Texas crude, Calfornia crude, Alaska crude,
California crude, Pennsylvania crude all has different amounts of some
ingredients. This makes oil from some of those crudes not as slippery.
To develop these oils to pass testing, additives are sometimes used.
One of the chief components that is different in different crudes, is
paraffin. Pennsylvania crude actually has less paraffin naturally
occuring, and thus, is added. The added paraffin, for SOME reason,
tends to leave deposits.

The straight 30 W is the best bet all around hands down. I would not use
multigrade oil in any engine. The main thing is to change every 3,000
miles.

--
Steve
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"alex" wrote in message
...
Past couple of years I've been pouring straight SAE30 into my "77 ford
302 gasoline engine. It's was coming from a barrel which I laid my
hands on several years ago. The label on the barrel actually says:
"Shell High performance diesel engine oil X30"

I've never actually experienced any problems with this oil. As a
matter of fact, I've never experienced any problems with this engine
whatsoever.
But now the bottom of the barrel is showing and so I have to go
shopping for oil again.
Any suggestions for a suitable oil type or brand ? Or should I go for
the same old stuff again.

Since I only use the boat during the summer I never really saw the
point in using a multigrade oil.

basskisser wrote:

I can! Oils from Texas crude, Calfornia crude, Alaska crude,
California crude, Pennsylvania crude all has different amounts of some
ingredients. This makes oil from some of those crudes not as slippery.
To develop these oils to pass testing, additives are sometimes used.
One of the chief components that is different in different crudes, is
paraffin. Pennsylvania crude actually has less paraffin naturally
occuring, and thus, is added. The added paraffin, for SOME reason,
tends to leave deposits.


Oh, Jeez ... this is a perfect example of the kind of misinformation and
nonsense that pervades the net when any technical issue arises.

I won't even waste any more bandwidth addressing each of the absurdities
contained in 'kisser's post but I do suggest anyone with an interest in
the subject do some real research. It is easy to find the facts ... much
easier than reading most of this nonsense.

Ricki

Rick,
Anyone who has read rec.boats for longer than a week understands the need to
take anything posted in here with a grain of salt.

What I liked the most was the image of Bass with his hand in the air calling
out, "I CAN" "I CAN" "CALL ON ME TEACHER". It was funny in my minds eye,
but then again, I am easily amused.



"Rick" wrote in message
link.net...
basskisser wrote:

I can! Oils from Texas crude, Calfornia crude, Alaska crude,
California crude, Pennsylvania crude all has different amounts of some
ingredients. This makes oil from some of those crudes not as slippery.
To develop these oils to pass testing, additives are sometimes used.
One of the chief components that is different in different crudes, is
paraffin. Pennsylvania crude actually has less paraffin naturally
occuring, and thus, is added. The added paraffin, for SOME reason,
tends to leave deposits.


Oh, Jeez ... this is a perfect example of the kind of misinformation and
nonsense that pervades the net when any technical issue arises.

I won't even waste any more bandwidth addressing each of the absurdities
contained in 'kisser's post but I do suggest anyone with an interest in
the subject do some real research. It is easy to find the facts ... much
easier than reading most of this nonsense.

Ricki