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John H[_2_] July 25th 11 06:14 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
....at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

Florida Jim July 25th 11 06:19 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 7/25/2011 1:14 PM, John H wrote:
...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.




He's just going to beat on us until morale improves.
I wonder how much of the 80 million strong senior vote he expects to get.

[email protected] July 25th 11 06:35 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John H
wrote:

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.


The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the
Congress, who is threatening to default.

Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising
the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff?

Eisboch[_8_] July 25th 11 08:52 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 


"John H" wrote in message
...

....at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Florida Jim July 25th 11 09:09 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 7/25/2011 3:52 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if
the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Just another scare tactic. Add that to the illegal war he has going in
lybia and you might just have just cause for impeachment.

[email protected] July 25th 11 09:16 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
.. .

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits.

http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed

Florida Jim July 25th 11 09:28 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 7/25/2011 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits.

http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed

Keep on making those payments dear. I need your money. It must be
frustrating for you that SSA will be out of business before you get to
the door.

wf3h[_2_] July 25th 11 10:21 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John H
wrote:

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?


perhaps because these constitute a large chunk of the budget


Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?


what makes you think it doesnt?


Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....


no one is 'threatening' anything except the GOP who wants to have
medicare bail out the rich

wf3h[_2_] July 25th 11 10:22 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:19:43 -0400, Florida Jim
wrote:

On 7/25/2011 1:14 PM, John H wrote:
...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.




He's just going to beat on us until morale improves.
I wonder how much of the 80 million strong senior vote he expects to get.


WAFA. congress...the GOP...is holding seniors hostage so obama doesn't
raise taxes on the rich

you're too stupid to live

wf3h[_2_] July 25th 11 10:24 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:09:09 -0400, Florida Jim
wrote:

Just another scare tactic. Add that to the illegal war he has going in
lybia and you might just have just cause for impeachment.


let's see....

number of troops killed in libya: none

money spent: 1 billion

number killed by bush in his illegal war in iraq: 4400

money spent: 2 trillion

but bush is white, you see...'

John H[_2_] July 25th 11 10:44 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
.. .

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...

"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."

Pure bull****.

[email protected] July 25th 11 11:58 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:44:11 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
. ..

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...

"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."

Pure bull****.


You are pure bull****.

I_am_Tosk July 26th 11 12:04 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
.. .

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...

"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."

Pure bull****.


WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN, WHO WILL TEACH THE CHILDREN, AND THE OLD
PEOPLE, AND THE DRUNKEN SPENDERS IN WASHINGTON, AND THE LITTLE PUPPY
DOGS???? ... OH MY!!!!

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Harryk July 26th 11 12:06 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 7/25/11 7:04 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...

"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."

Pure bull****.


WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN, WHO WILL TEACH THE CHILDREN, AND THE OLD
PEOPLE, AND THE DRUNKEN SPENDERS IN WASHINGTON, AND THE LITTLE PUPPY
DOGS???? ... OH MY!!!!


Why would educating children concern you? How much have you put away for
that kid's college education?


Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:41 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 11:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John
wrote:

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.


The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the
Congress, who is threatening to default.

Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising
the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff?


Dream on fleabagger. Congress already passed a proposition that would
give Obama money but the democrats shot it down in the senate.

Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.

Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.

--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:46 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 1:52 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if
the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.


Unless Obama has raided and stole the fund. Which I agree, would be a
sin against seniors. Fact is government is running on fraud, deception
and bull****.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Yep, Obama selling fear with lies and bull****.

Kind of amazes me the Bernanke US Fed currency fraud hasn't come up. It
is very much linked to revenue losses. But that is fleabaggers in denial.

USA credit downgrade might be good for USA, as interest rates are
fraudulently low and part of the problem. Higher rates might soak up
some of the $3 trillion plus of Bernanke currency fraud and abate
inflation a bit.

--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:49 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 2:09 PM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/25/2011 3:52 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if
the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers
pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Just another scare tactic. Add that to the illegal war he has going in
lybia and you might just have just cause for impeachment.


Yep, Obama has money to fight a Saudi-Euro regime grudge match, but
meanwhile 1.5+ million American kids are in homeless families in
California. Foreign aide and corporate bailouts should be the first to
get the axe as well as a long furrow for 1/2 the military. If Saudi
wants protection, they can pay for it.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:54 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 2:16 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits.

http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed


It is why I always insisted company penions in my name, in my account
and under my control. Too bad people would not wake up and do this with
CPP (Canada) and SS (US). Pooled funds are all skimmed and bamboozled.

Take social security, Obama has already ****ed it away. US government
pays zero percent interest and inflation diminishes the value of SS
every year. That is on Aug 2nd, Obama needs to direct income to SS to
cover its debt to the people.

I know, paying debts to its people in good faith isn't something
government likes to do. But perhaps citizens should rise and tell, not
ask, but demand government priorities get re-arranged.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:56 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 2:28 PM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/25/2011 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks
if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers
pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits.

http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed

Keep on making those payments dear. I need your money. It must be
frustrating for you that SSA will be out of business before you get to
the door.


Hey, if Obama does not pay SS, perhaps the workers should demand
employers put the money in escrow for them....why pay for a government
that doesn't honor its debt to seniors? Your just ****ing the money
away giving it to the government.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:57 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 3:44 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...

"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."

Pure bull****.


Really? Isn't state taxes fund it for 98% of it?

Maybe leave the union? Then direct the money to the state. LOL.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:58 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 5:04 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...

"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."

Pure bull****.


WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN, WHO WILL TEACH THE CHILDREN, AND THE OLD
PEOPLE, AND THE DRUNKEN SPENDERS IN WASHINGTON, AND THE LITTLE PUPPY
DOGS???? ... OH MY!!!!


Were there not schools before income tax? You bet. Perhaps instead of
carting all the money to the DC sink hole, spend it locally.

Yes, I am talking tax revolt.

--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

[email protected] July 26th 11 05:24 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:41:48 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 11:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John
wrote:

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.


The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the
Congress, who is threatening to default.

Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising
the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff?


Dream on fleabagger. Congress already passed a proposition that would
give Obama money but the democrats shot it down in the senate.

Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.

Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.


The good news is that you're UNABLE to enter the US.

[email protected] July 26th 11 05:25 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:49:29 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 2:09 PM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/25/2011 3:52 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if
the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers
pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Just another scare tactic. Add that to the illegal war he has going in
lybia and you might just have just cause for impeachment.


Yep, Obama has money to fight a Saudi-Euro regime grudge match, but
meanwhile 1.5+ million American kids are in homeless families in
California. Foreign aide and corporate bailouts should be the first to
get the axe as well as a long furrow for 1/2 the military. If Saudi
wants protection, they can pay for it.


Like you give a rat's ass about homeless people.

[email protected] July 26th 11 05:26 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:56:00 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 2:28 PM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/25/2011 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks
if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers
pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch

Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits.

http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed

Keep on making those payments dear. I need your money. It must be
frustrating for you that SSA will be out of business before you get to
the door.


Hey, if Obama does not pay SS, perhaps the workers should demand
employers put the money in escrow for them....why pay for a government
that doesn't honor its debt to seniors? Your just ****ing the money
away giving it to the government.


Hey, two morons don't make it right.

[email protected] July 26th 11 05:26 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:54:26 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 2:16 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits.

http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed


It is why I always insisted company penions in my name, in my account
and under my control. Too bad people would not wake up and do this with
CPP (Canada) and SS (US). Pooled funds are all skimmed and bamboozled.

Take social security, Obama has already ****ed it away. US government
pays zero percent interest and inflation diminishes the value of SS
every year. That is on Aug 2nd, Obama needs to direct income to SS to
cover its debt to the people.

I know, paying debts to its people in good faith isn't something
government likes to do. But perhaps citizens should rise and tell, not
ask, but demand government priorities get re-arranged.


You're a no-nothing little man.

[email protected] July 26th 11 05:26 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:58:58 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 5:04 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch

It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...

"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."

Pure bull****.


WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN, WHO WILL TEACH THE CHILDREN, AND THE OLD
PEOPLE, AND THE DRUNKEN SPENDERS IN WASHINGTON, AND THE LITTLE PUPPY
DOGS???? ... OH MY!!!!


Were there not schools before income tax? You bet. Perhaps instead of
carting all the money to the DC sink hole, spend it locally.

Yes, I am talking tax revolt.


Yes, you're talking stupid. We get it.

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 05:49 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 10:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:41:48 -0600,
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 11:35 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John
wrote:

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the
Congress, who is threatening to default.

Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising
the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff?


Dream on fleabagger. Congress already passed a proposition that would
give Obama money but the democrats shot it down in the senate.

Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.

Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.


The good news is that you're UNABLE to enter the US.


Why the hell would I want too? You fleabags pooched the system and your
going bankrupt. I am not going to pay your welfare.

We have jobs, you don't. Pretty obvious your broke and not working.
Just a fat assed leach.

--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

[email protected] July 26th 11 06:34 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:49:12 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 10:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:41:48 -0600,
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 11:35 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John
wrote:

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the
Congress, who is threatening to default.

Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising
the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff?

Dream on fleabagger. Congress already passed a proposition that would
give Obama money but the democrats shot it down in the senate.

Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.

Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.


The good news is that you're UNABLE to enter the US.


Why the hell would I want too? You fleabags pooched the system and your
going bankrupt. I am not going to pay your welfare.

We have jobs, you don't. Pretty obvious your broke and not working.
Just a fat assed leach.


I'm glad you've finally admitted it. That's progress. You have no job.
Well, your "job" is to try and find your little man. It's not going to
well is it.

TopBassDog July 26th 11 08:15 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Jul 25, 11:26*pm, wrote:


Yes, I am talking tax revolt.


Yes, you're talking stupid. We get it.


*We?* Who is *we,* Squaw?

TopBassDog July 26th 11 08:19 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Jul 26, 12:34*am, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:49:12 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:









On 25/07/2011 10:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:41:48 -0600,
wrote:


On 25/07/2011 11:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John
wrote:


...at:http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact


Sent this message:


Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.


Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& * our Soldiers pay?


Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?


Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& * our Needy as examples?


Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!


Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....


Lets hold the paychecks of all house& * senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.


The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the
Congress, who is threatening to default.


Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising
the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff?


Dream on fleabagger. *Congress already passed a proposition that would
give Obama money but the democrats shot it down in the senate.


Obama is full of ****. *Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. *Man s
grandstanding on your futures.


Thing is, it doesn't mater. *USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it..


The good news is that you're UNABLE to enter the US.


Why the hell would I want too? *You fleabags pooched the system and your
going bankrupt. *I am not going to pay your welfare.


We have jobs, you don't. *Pretty obvious your broke and not working.
Just a fat assed leach.


I'm glad you've finally admitted it. That's progress. You have no job.
Well, your "job" is to try and find your little man. It's not going to
well is it.



D'Plume, what he admitted was 1) you've drained the system to under
recovery 2) you are un-employable 3) You live on aid provide by the
U.S. Cheque payer..

Sorry if the slap hurt you.

North Star July 26th 11 03:07 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Jul 25, 8:06*pm, Harryk wrote:
On 7/25/11 7:04 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:





In ,
says...


On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, *wrote:


"John H" *wrote in message
...


...at:http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact


Sent this message:


Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.


Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& *our Soldiers pay?


Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?


Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& *our Needy as examples?


Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!


Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....


Lets hold the paychecks of all house& *senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.


---------------------------------------------------------


The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.


Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. * He and his
staff know that. * Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.


Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...


"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."


Pure bull****.


WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN, WHO WILL TEACH THE CHILDREN, AND THE OLD
PEOPLE, AND THE DRUNKEN SPENDERS IN WASHINGTON, AND THE LITTLE PUPPY
DOGS???? *... OH MY!!!!


Why would educating children concern you? How much have you put away for
that kid's college education?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


She'll pay her own way with motorbike winnings...... at least that's
his plan.

Harryk July 26th 11 03:19 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 7/26/11 10:07 AM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 25, 8:06 pm, wrote:
On 7/25/11 7:04 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:





In ,
says...


On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...


...at:http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact


Sent this message:


Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.


Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?


Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?


Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?


Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!


Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....


Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.


---------------------------------------------------------


The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.


Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.


Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...


"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."


Pure bull****.


WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN, WHO WILL TEACH THE CHILDREN, AND THE OLD
PEOPLE, AND THE DRUNKEN SPENDERS IN WASHINGTON, AND THE LITTLE PUPPY
DOGS???? ... OH MY!!!!


Why would educating children concern you? How much have you put away for
that kid's college education?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


She'll pay her own way with motorbike winnings...... at least that's
his plan.



That's the ticket. The University of Connecticut doesn't have an
official motorbike racing team, so there's little hope of an athletic
scholarship.

One of the neighbor kids is spending three weeks at an academic camp in
Pennsylvania. She's starting her junior year in high school at the end
of August, and wants to bump up her SAT scores. Her idea. Smart kid.



Harryk July 26th 11 03:38 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
In article eb96d231-f381-49da-ab3e-
,
says...

On Jul 25, 8:06*pm, Harryk wrote:
On 7/25/11 7:04 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:





In ,
says...


On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, *wrote:


"John H" *wrote in message
...


...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:


Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.


Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& *our Soldiers pay?


Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?


Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& *our Needy as examples?


Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!


Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....


Lets hold the paychecks of all house& *senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.


---------------------------------------------------------


The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.


Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. * He and his
staff know that. * Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.


Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...


"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."


Pure bull****.


WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN, WHO WILL TEACH THE CHILDREN, AND THE OLD
PEOPLE, AND THE DRUNKEN SPENDERS IN WASHINGTON, AND THE LITTLE PUPPY
DOGS???? *... OH MY!!!!


Why would educating children concern you? How much have you put away for
that kid's college education?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


She'll pay her own way with motorbike winnings...... at least that's
his plan.


Really? Tell me, how do you know what Scotty's plan is? Let me know so
that I can use it against him!


Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:54 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 11:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:49:12 -0600,
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 10:24 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:41:48 -0600,
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 11:35 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John
wrote:

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the
Congress, who is threatening to default.

Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising
the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff?

Dream on fleabagger. Congress already passed a proposition that would
give Obama money but the democrats shot it down in the senate.

Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.

Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.

The good news is that you're UNABLE to enter the US.


Why the hell would I want too? You fleabags pooched the system and your
going bankrupt. I am not going to pay your welfare.

We have jobs, you don't. Pretty obvious your broke and not working.
Just a fat assed leach.


I'm glad you've finally admitted it. That's progress. You have no job.
Well, your "job" is to try and find your little man. It's not going to
well is it.


Funny, my IRA in USD terms took a big rise this morning. USD fell
against the CAD and the Yuan big time, and expect for some oil, I only
use the NYSE for foreign holdings in USD.

I know my theories to work. I didn't ignore Warren Buffet and Ron Paul.
I didn't ignore reality.

Fact is I had tenderloin steaks last night. Salmon tonight. Belly is
full, I am not suffering I can assure you.

But my heart goes out to those that didn't cause this depression with
their greed, yet have to suffer from circumstance. For those like you
with the greed and racism, hope you like the new US economy....as it
approaches that of a developing 3rd world country.

Fact is, USA is done for and will not come back until it follows a USSR
like recovery. And that will take at least 2 decades.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:56 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 26/07/2011 1:19 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jul 26, 12:34 am, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:49:12 -0600,
wrote:









On 25/07/2011 10:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:41:48 -0600,
wrote:


On 25/07/2011 11:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John
wrote:


...at:http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact


Sent this message:


Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.


Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?


Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?


Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?


Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!


Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....


Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.


The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the
Congress, who is threatening to default.


Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising
the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff?


Dream on fleabagger. Congress already passed a proposition that would
give Obama money but the democrats shot it down in the senate.


Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.


Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.


The good news is that you're UNABLE to enter the US.


Why the hell would I want too? You fleabags pooched the system and your
going bankrupt. I am not going to pay your welfare.


We have jobs, you don't. Pretty obvious your broke and not working.
Just a fat assed leach.


I'm glad you've finally admitted it. That's progress. You have no job.
Well, your "job" is to try and find your little man. It's not going to
well is it.



D'Plume, what he admitted was 1) you've drained the system to under
recovery 2) you are un-employable 3) You live on aid provide by the
U.S. Cheque payer..

Sorry if the slap hurt you.


Lets hope Obama cuts the losers off.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:57 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 26/07/2011 3:51 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:41:48 -0600,
wrote:



Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.

Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.


notice how the racist ignores the fact bush racked up FIVE TRILLION in
new programs

while obama has done 1.8T

but it's all the black guys fault....


Yep, it so happens the dumb**** is black. So your point? You are racist?

--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Harryk July 26th 11 05:09 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 7/26/11 11:57 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/07/2011 3:51 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:41:48 -0600,
wrote:



Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.

Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.


notice how the racist ignores the fact bush racked up FIVE TRILLION in
new programs

while obama has done 1.8T

but it's all the black guys fault....


Yep, it so happens the dumb**** is black. So your point? You are racist?

Posit: the dumber and more uneducated the right-wing poster, the more
likely he is to insult those who are smarter and more educated, and to
insult the concept of higher education.

Canuck, Ingersoll, and flajim are perfect examples that prove the posit.



Harryk July 26th 11 05:27 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
In article ,
says...

On 7/26/11 11:57 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/07/2011 3:51 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:41:48 -0600,
wrote:



Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.

Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.

notice how the racist ignores the fact bush racked up FIVE TRILLION in
new programs

while obama has done 1.8T

but it's all the black guys fault....


Yep, it so happens the dumb**** is black. So your point? You are racist?

Posit: the dumber and more uneducated the right-wing poster, the more
likely he is to insult those who are smarter and more educated, and to
insult the concept of higher education.

Canuck, Ingersoll, and flajim are perfect examples that prove the posit.


You stupid spoofer, I always come here and insult those who are smarter
and more educated than I am. Well, I insult and call names to anybody
who doesn't think exactly as I do.

Florida Jim July 26th 11 05:34 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 7/26/2011 12:24 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:41:48 -0600,
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 11:35 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John
wrote:

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the
Congress, who is threatening to default.

Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising
the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff?


Dream on fleabagger. Congress already passed a proposition that would
give Obama money but the democrats shot it down in the senate.

Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.

Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.


The good news is that you're UNABLE to enter the US.


who is it good news for, and why. You need to explain the dumb **** you
are posting.

[email protected] July 26th 11 05:44 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:56:15 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 26/07/2011 1:19 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jul 26, 12:34 am, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:49:12 -0600,
wrote:









On 25/07/2011 10:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:41:48 -0600,
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 11:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John
wrote:

...at:http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!

Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the
Congress, who is threatening to default.

Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising
the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff?

Dream on fleabagger. Congress already passed a proposition that would
give Obama money but the democrats shot it down in the senate.

Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.

Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.

The good news is that you're UNABLE to enter the US.

Why the hell would I want too? You fleabags pooched the system and your
going bankrupt. I am not going to pay your welfare.

We have jobs, you don't. Pretty obvious your broke and not working.
Just a fat assed leach.

I'm glad you've finally admitted it. That's progress. You have no job.
Well, your "job" is to try and find your little man. It's not going to
well is it.



D'Plume, what he admitted was 1) you've drained the system to under
recovery 2) you are un-employable 3) You live on aid provide by the
U.S. Cheque payer..

Sorry if the slap hurt you.


Lets hope Obama cuts the losers off.


Whooo... the morons are playing with each other again. You and Doggie
need to get a room.


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