In article m,
says...

On 7/26/2011 12:24 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:41:48 -0600,
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 11:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John
wrote:

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the
Congress, who is threatening to default.

Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising
the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff?

Dream on fleabagger. Congress already passed a proposition that would
give Obama money but the democrats shot it down in the senate.

Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.

Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.

The good news is that you're UNABLE to enter the US.

who is it good news for, and why. You need to explain the dumb **** you
are posting.

Well, *I* am glad he can't because I'm a coward. I run my mouth then
when someone calls me out about it, I **** my pants and call the cops.

"John H" wrote in message
...

....at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch

On 7/25/2011 3:52 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if
the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch

Just another scare tactic. Add that to the illegal war he has going in
lybia and you might just have just cause for impeachment.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:09:09 -0400, Florida Jim
wrote:

Just another scare tactic. Add that to the illegal war he has going in
lybia and you might just have just cause for impeachment.

let's see....

number of troops killed in libya: none

money spent: 1 billion

number killed by bush in his illegal war in iraq: 4400

money spent: 2 trillion

but bush is white, you see...'

On 25/07/2011 2:09 PM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/25/2011 3:52 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if
the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers
pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch

Just another scare tactic. Add that to the illegal war he has going in
lybia and you might just have just cause for impeachment.

Yep, Obama has money to fight a Saudi-Euro regime grudge match, but
meanwhile 1.5+ million American kids are in homeless families in
California. Foreign aide and corporate bailouts should be the first to
get the axe as well as a long furrow for 1/2 the military. If Saudi
wants protection, they can pay for it.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:49:29 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 2:09 PM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/25/2011 3:52 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if
the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers
pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch

Just another scare tactic. Add that to the illegal war he has going in
lybia and you might just have just cause for impeachment.

Yep, Obama has money to fight a Saudi-Euro regime grudge match, but
meanwhile 1.5+ million American kids are in homeless families in
California. Foreign aide and corporate bailouts should be the first to
get the axe as well as a long furrow for 1/2 the military. If Saudi
wants protection, they can pay for it.

Like you give a rat's ass about homeless people.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
.. .

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch

Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits.

http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed

On 7/25/2011 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch

Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits.

http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed
Keep on making those payments dear. I need your money. It must be
frustrating for you that SSA will be out of business before you get to
the door.

On 25/07/2011 2:28 PM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/25/2011 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks
if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers
pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch

Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits.

http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed
Keep on making those payments dear. I need your money. It must be
frustrating for you that SSA will be out of business before you get to
the door.

Hey, if Obama does not pay SS, perhaps the workers should demand
employers put the money in escrow for them....why pay for a government
that doesn't honor its debt to seniors? Your just ****ing the money
away giving it to the government.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:56:00 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/07/2011 2:28 PM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/25/2011 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks
if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers
pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch

Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits.

http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed
Keep on making those payments dear. I need your money. It must be
frustrating for you that SSA will be out of business before you get to
the door.

Hey, if Obama does not pay SS, perhaps the workers should demand
employers put the money in escrow for them....why pay for a government
that doesn't honor its debt to seniors? Your just ****ing the money
away giving it to the government.

Hey, two morons don't make it right.