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John H[_2_] July 25th 11 10:44 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
.. .

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...

"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."

Pure bull****.

[email protected] July 25th 11 11:58 PM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:44:11 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
. ..

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...

"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."

Pure bull****.


You are pure bull****.

I_am_Tosk July 26th 11 12:04 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
.. .

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...

"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."

Pure bull****.


WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN, WHO WILL TEACH THE CHILDREN, AND THE OLD
PEOPLE, AND THE DRUNKEN SPENDERS IN WASHINGTON, AND THE LITTLE PUPPY
DOGS???? ... OH MY!!!!

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Harryk July 26th 11 12:06 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 7/25/11 7:04 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...

"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."

Pure bull****.


WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN, WHO WILL TEACH THE CHILDREN, AND THE OLD
PEOPLE, AND THE DRUNKEN SPENDERS IN WASHINGTON, AND THE LITTLE PUPPY
DOGS???? ... OH MY!!!!


Why would educating children concern you? How much have you put away for
that kid's college education?


Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:41 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 11:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John
wrote:

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.


The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the
Congress, who is threatening to default.

Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising
the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff?


Dream on fleabagger. Congress already passed a proposition that would
give Obama money but the democrats shot it down in the senate.

Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't
made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s
grandstanding on your futures.

Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of
a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it.

--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:46 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 1:52 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if
the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.


Unless Obama has raided and stole the fund. Which I agree, would be a
sin against seniors. Fact is government is running on fraud, deception
and bull****.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Yep, Obama selling fear with lies and bull****.

Kind of amazes me the Bernanke US Fed currency fraud hasn't come up. It
is very much linked to revenue losses. But that is fleabaggers in denial.

USA credit downgrade might be good for USA, as interest rates are
fraudulently low and part of the problem. Higher rates might soak up
some of the $3 trillion plus of Bernanke currency fraud and abate
inflation a bit.

--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:49 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 2:09 PM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/25/2011 3:52 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if
the debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers
pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Just another scare tactic. Add that to the illegal war he has going in
lybia and you might just have just cause for impeachment.


Yep, Obama has money to fight a Saudi-Euro regime grudge match, but
meanwhile 1.5+ million American kids are in homeless families in
California. Foreign aide and corporate bailouts should be the first to
get the axe as well as a long furrow for 1/2 the military. If Saudi
wants protection, they can pay for it.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:54 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 2:16 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits.

http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed


It is why I always insisted company penions in my name, in my account
and under my control. Too bad people would not wake up and do this with
CPP (Canada) and SS (US). Pooled funds are all skimmed and bamboozled.

Take social security, Obama has already ****ed it away. US government
pays zero percent interest and inflation diminishes the value of SS
every year. That is on Aug 2nd, Obama needs to direct income to SS to
cover its debt to the people.

I know, paying debts to its people in good faith isn't something
government likes to do. But perhaps citizens should rise and tell, not
ask, but demand government priorities get re-arranged.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:56 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 2:28 PM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/25/2011 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks
if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers
pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save
more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that
Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in
order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and
his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his
side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits.

http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed

Keep on making those payments dear. I need your money. It must be
frustrating for you that SSA will be out of business before you get to
the door.


Hey, if Obama does not pay SS, perhaps the workers should demand
employers put the money in escrow for them....why pay for a government
that doesn't honor its debt to seniors? Your just ****ing the money
away giving it to the government.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .

Canuck57[_9_] July 26th 11 04:57 AM

Just emailed the White House...
 
On 25/07/2011 3:44 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
...

...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Sent this message:

Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the
debt ceiling isn't
raised.

Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay?

Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more
money for our country?

Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples?

Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!

Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability
payments of people who really
need the money....

Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast
they resolve the debt
ceiling crisis !!!!!


Might be a good idea if everyone did it.

---------------------------------------------------------

The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social
Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view.
The SS fund is solvent until 2037.

Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order
to use the funds for other bills, that's
another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his
staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being
withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side.
I don't like that kind of dishonest politics.

Eisboch


It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about
higher taxes for schools...

"Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will
suffer."

Pure bull****.


Really? Isn't state taxes fund it for 98% of it?

Maybe leave the union? Then direct the money to the state. LOL.
--
Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge.
Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a
counterfeiter. .


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