AARP

https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293

Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security

Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that
would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions
of older Americans at risk.

We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's
seniors

Send a message to your members of Congress

On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote:
AARP

https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293

Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security

Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that
would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions
of older Americans at risk.

We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's
seniors

Send a message to your members of Congress

there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare.
Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or
more health care. It is fact a cut in health care.
Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on
will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid
or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care.
The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train.
I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those
seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it.

On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:25:43 -0400, Liburn wrote:

On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote:
AARP

https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293

Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security

Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that
would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions
of older Americans at risk.

We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's
seniors

Send a message to your members of Congress

there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare.
Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or
more health care. It is fact a cut in health care.
Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on
will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid
or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care.
The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train.
I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those
seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it.

Huh? First, there's no such thing as "Obama Care." Second, the
Affordable Healthcare Act actually has some really nice things in it.

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/about/index.html

On 7/16/2011 9:10 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:25:43 -0400, wrote:

On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote:
AARP

https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293

Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security

Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that
would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions
of older Americans at risk.

We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's
seniors

Send a message to your members of Congress

there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare.
Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or
more health care. It is fact a cut in health care.
Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on
will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid
or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care.
The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train.
I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those
seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it.

Huh? First, there's no such thing as "Obama Care." Second, the
Affordable Healthcare Act actually has some really nice things in it.

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/about/index.html
It must be my imagination but my costs have gone up in the past year
with higher premiums,, higher deductibles, higher co-pays, more drug
exclusions.
I can understand why Obama doesn't want his name associated with the
bill, but it's too late. It will cost him in 2012.
Good riddance to him, I say.

On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:42:35 -0400, HenryK wrote:

On 7/16/2011 9:10 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:25:43 -0400, wrote:

On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote:
AARP

https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293

Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security

Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that
would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions
of older Americans at risk.

We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's
seniors

Send a message to your members of Congress

there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare.
Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or
more health care. It is fact a cut in health care.
Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on
will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid
or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care.
The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train.
I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those
seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it.

Huh? First, there's no such thing as "Obama Care." Second, the
Affordable Healthcare Act actually has some really nice things in it.

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/about/index.html
It must be my imagination but my costs have gone up in the past year
with higher premiums,, higher deductibles, higher co-pays, more drug
exclusions.
I can understand why Obama doesn't want his name associated with the
bill, but it's too late. It will cost him in 2012.
Good riddance to him, I say.

So, it's all about you. You aren't willing to spend a single dime more
to help anyone else. Did you even look at the website? I doubt it.

Obama very much will run on pushing through the Affordable Healthcare
Act. It will certainly "cost him" with some people. People like you
who apparently can't see the forest for the trees.

On Jul 17, 11:38*am, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:42:35 -0400, HenryK wrote:
On 7/16/2011 9:10 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:25:43 -0400, *wrote:

On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote:
AARP

https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...UserAction&id=...

Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security

Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that
would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions
of older Americans at risk.

We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's
seniors

Send a message to your members of Congress

there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare.
Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or
more health care. It is fact a cut in health care.
Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on
will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid
or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care.
The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train.
I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those
seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it.

Huh? First, there's no such thing as "Obama Care." Second, the
Affordable Healthcare Act actually has some really nice things in it.

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/about/index.html
It must be my imagination but my costs have gone up in the past year
with higher premiums,, higher deductibles, higher co-pays, more drug
exclusions.
I can understand why Obama doesn't want his name associated with the
bill, but it's too late. It will cost him in 2012.
Good riddance to him, I say.

So, it's all about you. You aren't willing to spend a single dime more
to help anyone else. Did you even look at the website? I doubt it.

Obama very much will run on pushing through the Affordable Healthcare
Act. It will certainly "cost him" with some people. People like you
who apparently can't see the forest for the trees.

A natural statement coming from one who lives on government assistance.

On 7/17/2011 12:38 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:42:35 -0400, wrote:

On 7/16/2011 9:10 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:25:43 -0400, wrote:

On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote:
AARP

https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293

Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security

Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that
would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions
of older Americans at risk.

We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's
seniors

Send a message to your members of Congress

there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare.
Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or
more health care. It is fact a cut in health care.
Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on
will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid
or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care.
The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train.
I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those
seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it.

Huh? First, there's no such thing as "Obama Care." Second, the
Affordable Healthcare Act actually has some really nice things in it.

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/about/index.html
It must be my imagination but my costs have gone up in the past year
with higher premiums,, higher deductibles, higher co-pays, more drug
exclusions.
I can understand why Obama doesn't want his name associated with the
bill, but it's too late. It will cost him in 2012.
Good riddance to him, I say.

So, it's all about you. You aren't willing to spend a single dime more
to help anyone else. Did you even look at the website? I doubt it.

Obama very much will run on pushing through the Affordable Healthcare
Act. It will certainly "cost him" with some people. People like you
who apparently can't see the forest for the trees.
our single dimes is hundreds of dollars in forced premiums, medications,
and all health care. Actually thousands to tens of thousands if
seriously ill. As it is Medicare, if seriously ill leaves you hanging.
Those wanting to cut Medicare and SS are the inconsiderate ones. They
pay very little tax but enjoy the economic privileged of greater
political power in Washington.
Citizens and Main Street bear the brunt of taxation. Global or foreign
Corporations etc enjoy the wealth generated by our economy but don't
support the Republic and economy with taxes.
Social Security are vital components of our economy and society. Without
them there would be a huge increase in demands for welfare and higher
taxes to support that.
The society would be further stratified to the upper Economic Advantaged
and the Peasants. Or Feudalism.
The Supply Side Economists/Government don't have but one agenda, that is
to have policies that mean they don't bear responsibility to the
Republic only their wealth.
this is the way of Feudal England. The Serfs produced all the wealth to
keep the Lords, in power and enjoyed no benefits.
The truth of it is if you aren't making them money please die.
The attitudes of these Global Economic Ruling Elites do not even
consider an Individual as having a presence much less Rights, needs, or
desires. Their view is to manage the herd.
Main Street, American Citizens bear the costs. It's time Global or
offshore Business and Individuals making their wealth on Americans from
Americans support the Republic with their taxes thus lowering taxation
for everyone. The Fifty billion or more, they would pay in taxes, as we
do would eliminate the tax shortfall in America. It's time to increase
the tax base. They should be included.

On 16/07/2011 6:00 PM, Q JINN wrote:
AARP

https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293

Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security

Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that
would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions
of older Americans at risk.

We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's
seniors

Send a message to your members of Congress

I do have a problem cutting social security. It soud be the last one
chopped. While people had the misguided idea government would manage it
well, it is an obligation that was paid for. Cut welfare first, as
welfare didn't pay squat into it. Plus the payroll tax is there for
social security.

But the say fact is that decades of fiscal mismanagement of SS has left
it crippled. Government borrows and wastes the moneys, pays well below
inflation diluting the value of it every year. Like a parasite sucking
slowly and surely.

Medicare and medicaid, why not merge the two and lower the service
levels, make it more efficient and less costly? Sorry, not everyone can
go out costing $3 million for heart, lung, kidneys...there has to be
rationed limits.

The big hack should be military, general administration and over all
efficiencies. Michelle for example, 50+ staff? You're kidding right?

A good law to slide into government might be no raises for any civil
servant until the budget is 100% balanced for one budget cycle. A
little motivation to get the lead out.

If unions, governemnt or people sanely cared about pensions, pensions
would be in your name, in your account and in your control, and if some
central authority want big pools of money, they would have to borrow it
from you at defined terms acceptable to you. No more skimming and
bamboozling. Social security, employee and employers part, company
pension, all go into the IRA/401K. Current pension plans are total
bullship, except for government elite with the gold plated indexed
plans. Sort of an eglitarian aristoracy to be government these days.
They should get and use the same benefits as they provide.

But big fat government is about milking and managing the herd for the
egalitarianism in our societies. Taxation and government has turned out
to be modern day slavery.
--
What government fears the most is that the people correctly learn that
they need government less than the government needs them.
Say no more debt, no more debt-slave taxes. Economic freedom matters too!

On 16/07/2011 6:25 PM, Liburn wrote:
On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote:
AARP

https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293

Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security

Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that
would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions
of older Americans at risk.

We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's
seniors

Send a message to your members of Congress

there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare.
Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or
more health care. It is fact a cut in health care.

That is how i worked in Canada. Get the taxes and dumb down the service
levels for government profit. And they can hold it over you like a
hammer if your are a dependent. Most people are too greedy to see this.

Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on
will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid
or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care.
The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train.
I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those
seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it.

Have no choice, pay government (low) efficiency rates or do it yourself.
Trouble is then should a lazy fat sit on your ass never worked a day
in their life get the same service as someone who has contributed for
40+ years?

Really boils down to who gets screwed, shifting lower quality services
to those that pay for benefits to those that don't pay anything, even
dope dealers and habitual users not fit to work. Now if the government
differentiates, oh that is a slipperly slope for sure.

--
What government fears the most is that the people correctly learn that
they need government less than the government needs them.
Say no more debt, no more debt-slave taxes. Economic freedom maters too!

On 16/07/2011 7:10 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:25:43 -0400, wrote:

On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote:
AARP

https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293

Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security

Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that
would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions
of older Americans at risk.

We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's
seniors

Send a message to your members of Congress

there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare.
Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or
more health care. It is fact a cut in health care.
Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on
will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid
or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care.
The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train.
I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those
seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it.

Huh? First, there's no such thing as "Obama Care." Second, the
Affordable Healthcare Act actually has some really nice things in it.

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/about/index.html

Yep, just a tax greedy money grab. Also why it kicks the cost of US
employment to a point where companies are now moving offshore. Jsut
adds to why not to employ in the American welfare country.

--
What government fears the most is that the people correctly learn that
they need government less than the government needs them.
Say no more debt, no more debt-slave taxes. Economic freedom maters too!