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David Ditch September 30th 03 12:46 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Hi all,
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

We have been looking at the Four Winns sundowner
We have Kids: newborn (may stay with grandparents till older), 4year old and
2 year old
Any questions I should ask my self when determining if I should have a cuddy
or bowrider?
We are in the Chesapeake bay near Annapolis.

David



Harry Krause September 30th 03 12:56 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
David Ditch wrote:

Hi all,
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

We have been looking at the Four Winns sundowner
We have Kids: newborn (may stay with grandparents till older), 4year old and
2 year old
Any questions I should ask my self when determining if I should have a cuddy
or bowrider?
We are in the Chesapeake bay near Annapolis.

David



If I recall, other than access from the cockpit, the only opening in
that cuddy is a hatch. So, yes, the answer is, it will be hot as hades
in that cabin when the boat is not moving.

Consider a Parker pilothouse. Two opening windshields, two opening side
windows, a hatch and a large cabin door.

www.parkerboats.net

And the local Bay dealer is www.tristatemarine.com

The 23' pilothouse is a very nice boat for a young family, and so are
the larger models. You can even get an electric flushing toilet (head)
in the forward part of the cabin.

We have a 25-footer. Even on the hottest day, it is cooler in the cabin
than out in the cockpit, because the bright white fiberglass of the
cabin reflects the sun. Plus we leave all the opening windows open and
have a fan in each part of the cabin. We also have a bimini top for the
cockpit.

You can equip the 23' pilothouse the same way. Oh...and you won't have
to deal with one of those bloody awful I/O drives.







--
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email sent to will *never* get to me.


Wayne.B September 30th 03 01:50 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:56:11 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

==============================

Yes, the cuddy will get hot. It has other advantages however:

- A place to stow gear out of sight and out of the weather.

- A modicum of privacy for the port-a-pot.

- More sea worthy in the heavy stuff.

- Enclosed bunks for the occassional night aboard or spontaneous
sports activities. :-)

Lawrence James September 30th 03 02:29 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
I'd never give up my bowrider for a cuddy for anything. It depends on what
you want to do with your boat. If you're into recreational fair weather
boating then there is not much advantage to a cuddy. It will reduce the
number of passengers you can carry because no one will want to be in it
while under way or while sitting. Every small boat I've been in with a
cuddy and it has looked like someones hall closet. I can easily have 8
adults and kids in my 19 ft runabout bowrider.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:56:11 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I

was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

==============================

Yes, the cuddy will get hot. It has other advantages however:

- A place to stow gear out of sight and out of the weather.

- A modicum of privacy for the port-a-pot.

- More sea worthy in the heavy stuff.

- Enclosed bunks for the occassional night aboard or spontaneous
sports activities. :-)




Wayne.B September 30th 03 02:53 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 01:29:08 GMT, "Lawrence James"
wrote:
I can easily have 8
adults and kids in my 19 ft runabout bowrider.

=====================================

With all due respect, I hope you're a flat water boater.


David Ditch September 30th 03 03:12 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Thanks all I had argued the same point to my wife about being able to put
more people on the boat.
I felt that sitting up front was great for the teenage nephews I had.
One thing I though about was did I want to get the boat for my family or for
entertaining.
I came back to the thought that I wanted to maximize the utility of the boat
for the main concerns of who was making the payments.. Me and my wife. (well
mostly my wife :)

With a family of 5, our thoughts were that we had plenty of room to fit us
all. I have been concious about how many people will sit comfortably while
under way. Some of the boats I had been looking at barely fit enough for 5
to sit. The nice thing I noticed about the sundowner 205 was there was room
for 6+ adults to sit down.

When I looked at the bowriders there were plenty of room but I wanted to
make sure I could sit kids right beside adults. The sport seating benches
were good for that but I felt lowered the floor space. Something I have to
think about if we end up deciding on a bowrider.

I also hear if the cuddy has a head and stove, the interest is tax
deductable as a "vacation home" just like a camper can be.

David

"Lawrence James" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I'd never give up my bowrider for a cuddy for anything. It depends on

what
you want to do with your boat. If you're into recreational fair weather
boating then there is not much advantage to a cuddy. It will reduce the
number of passengers you can carry because no one will want to be in it
while under way or while sitting. Every small boat I've been in with a
cuddy and it has looked like someones hall closet. I can easily have 8
adults and kids in my 19 ft runabout bowrider.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:56:11 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I

was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

==============================

Yes, the cuddy will get hot. It has other advantages however:

- A place to stow gear out of sight and out of the weather.

- A modicum of privacy for the port-a-pot.

- More sea worthy in the heavy stuff.

- Enclosed bunks for the occassional night aboard or spontaneous
sports activities. :-)






Wayne.B September 30th 03 03:22 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:12:56 -0400, "David Ditch"
wrote:

I also hear if the cuddy has a head and stove, the interest is tax
deductable as a "vacation home" just like a camper can be.

==============================================

That can be true in many cases but it's important to remember that
you're only allowed one "second" home for interest deductions.


Joe Parsons September 30th 03 03:35 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:46:32 -0400, "David Ditch"
wrote:

Hi all,
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

We have been looking at the Four Winns sundowner
We have Kids: newborn (may stay with grandparents till older), 4year old and
2 year old
Any questions I should ask my self when determining if I should have a cuddy
or bowrider?
We are in the Chesapeake bay near Annapolis.


I've just bought a Four Winns Sundowner 195. I had at first considered a
bowrider, but once I looked at this configuration, it was no contest.

The cuddy has a hatch for ventilation, and if that's not enough, you can get a
fabric scoop to direct the air into the cabin.

I found the cuddy to be a lot more practical for multiple reasons: one, it's
nice to have a large lockable compartment for gear.

Second, there's enough room in the cabin for two people to sleep comfortably (if
somewhat spartanly); there's space for a porta-potti, which is extremely
desirable when traveling with females. :)

The only disadvantage I can see to the cuddy is that it's a bit more difficult
to get to the bow line for docking. You can get to the foredeck through the
windshield, but it's somewhat awkward. I haven't really found docking to be
much of a problem.

We have the "camper top" on ours, so we can enclose the entire cockpit if we
want--plus two of the seats turn into couches.

The windscreen on ours is very effective--sitting in the front seats, there's
essentially no wind at 30 kts--although when you move toward the stern there's
plenty. If I want more wind on me, I just open the center panel of the
windshield.

Overall, I am very happy with the cuddy, and can't imagine having a bowrider.

HTH,
Joe Parsons


Insomniac September 30th 03 04:14 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
My first boat was a 17' bowrider. About 99% of the use was with the bow
cover on. Rarely had that many people on board plus it opens you up to
catching wind and waves. So I hardly ever took the bow cover off. In fact,
I sealed the underside with weather-stripping to make it more waterproof.

We moved up to get a cuddy. Ended up moving to 25' (nice cuddy :). I
agree with most of the other comments. It's nice to have the privacy and
protection of the cuddy as well as the extra storage. I don't find our
cuddy uncomfortably hot ,but we do live in Seattle :) With the windows open
it's fine, and there is usually a breeze on the water.

"David Ditch" wrote in message
...
Thanks all I had argued the same point to my wife about being able to put
more people on the boat.
I felt that sitting up front was great for the teenage nephews I had.
One thing I though about was did I want to get the boat for my family or

for
entertaining.
I came back to the thought that I wanted to maximize the utility of the

boat
for the main concerns of who was making the payments.. Me and my wife.

(well
mostly my wife :)

With a family of 5, our thoughts were that we had plenty of room to fit us
all. I have been concious about how many people will sit comfortably

while
under way. Some of the boats I had been looking at barely fit enough for 5
to sit. The nice thing I noticed about the sundowner 205 was there was

room
for 6+ adults to sit down.

When I looked at the bowriders there were plenty of room but I wanted to
make sure I could sit kids right beside adults. The sport seating benches
were good for that but I felt lowered the floor space. Something I have

to
think about if we end up deciding on a bowrider.

I also hear if the cuddy has a head and stove, the interest is tax
deductable as a "vacation home" just like a camper can be.

David

"Lawrence James" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I'd never give up my bowrider for a cuddy for anything. It depends on

what
you want to do with your boat. If you're into recreational fair weather
boating then there is not much advantage to a cuddy. It will reduce the
number of passengers you can carry because no one will want to be in it
while under way or while sitting. Every small boat I've been in with a
cuddy and it has looked like someones hall closet. I can easily have 8
adults and kids in my 19 ft runabout bowrider.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:56:11 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing

I
was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?
==============================

Yes, the cuddy will get hot. It has other advantages however:

- A place to stow gear out of sight and out of the weather.

- A modicum of privacy for the port-a-pot.

- More sea worthy in the heavy stuff.

- Enclosed bunks for the occassional night aboard or spontaneous
sports activities. :-)








Doug Kanter September 30th 03 05:16 PM

cuddy get too hot?
 
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...


- Enclosed bunks for the occassional night aboard or spontaneous
sports activities. :-)


Uh, blush, yep....


You'd only need that if you were addicted to sex. Translation: Where's Dave
Hall been, anyway? Did the hurricane carry him away? :-)



Doug Kanter September 30th 03 05:17 PM

cuddy get too hot?
 
8 bodies on a 19 foot boat? The vests alone should take up quite a bit of
space.

"Lawrence James" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I'd never give up my bowrider for a cuddy for anything. It depends on

what
you want to do with your boat. If you're into recreational fair weather
boating then there is not much advantage to a cuddy. It will reduce the
number of passengers you can carry because no one will want to be in it
while under way or while sitting. Every small boat I've been in with a
cuddy and it has looked like someones hall closet. I can easily have 8
adults and kids in my 19 ft runabout bowrider.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:56:11 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I

was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

==============================

Yes, the cuddy will get hot. It has other advantages however:

- A place to stow gear out of sight and out of the weather.

- A modicum of privacy for the port-a-pot.

- More sea worthy in the heavy stuff.

- Enclosed bunks for the occassional night aboard or spontaneous
sports activities. :-)






L. A. Powell September 30th 03 08:27 PM

cuddy get too hot?
 
.... not to mention being overloaded and unsafe.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
8 bodies on a 19 foot boat? The vests alone should take up quite a bit

of
space.

"Lawrence James" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I'd never give up my bowrider for a cuddy for anything. It depends

on
what
you want to do with your boat. If you're into recreational fair

weather
boating then there is not much advantage to a cuddy. It will reduce

the
number of passengers you can carry because no one will want to be in

it
while under way or while sitting. Every small boat I've been in

with a
cuddy and it has looked like someones hall closet. I can easily

have 8
adults and kids in my 19 ft runabout bowrider.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:56:11 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On

thing I
was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not

moving?
==============================

Yes, the cuddy will get hot. It has other advantages however:

- A place to stow gear out of sight and out of the weather.

- A modicum of privacy for the port-a-pot.

- More sea worthy in the heavy stuff.

- Enclosed bunks for the occassional night aboard or spontaneous
sports activities. :-)








Doug Kanter September 30th 03 08:31 PM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Who needs a science class to learn about Darwin's theories, when they're
demonstrated right in front of us every day? :-)

"L. A. Powell" wrote in message
news:BOkeb.469858$Oz4.279597@rwcrnsc54...
... not to mention being overloaded and unsafe.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
8 bodies on a 19 foot boat? The vests alone should take up quite a bit

of
space.

"Lawrence James" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I'd never give up my bowrider for a cuddy for anything. It depends

on
what
you want to do with your boat. If you're into recreational fair

weather
boating then there is not much advantage to a cuddy. It will reduce

the
number of passengers you can carry because no one will want to be in

it
while under way or while sitting. Every small boat I've been in

with a
cuddy and it has looked like someones hall closet. I can easily

have 8
adults and kids in my 19 ft runabout bowrider.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:56:11 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On

thing I
was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not

moving?
==============================

Yes, the cuddy will get hot. It has other advantages however:

- A place to stow gear out of sight and out of the weather.

- A modicum of privacy for the port-a-pot.

- More sea worthy in the heavy stuff.

- Enclosed bunks for the occassional night aboard or spontaneous
sports activities. :-)









RG October 1st 03 01:48 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 

"David Ditch" wrote in message
...
Hi all,
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

We have been looking at the Four Winns sundowner
We have Kids: newborn (may stay with grandparents till older), 4year old

and
2 year old
Any questions I should ask my self when determining if I should have a

cuddy
or bowrider?
We are in the Chesapeake bay near Annapolis.


Bowriders outsell Cuddys by a wide margin, and I've never understood why. I
guess kids get a kick out of sitting in the bow area. Personally, I'd just
as soon not have people in front of the helm obstructing my view forward.
Also, I believe that passengers are inherently safer in the cockpit area of
a runabout than in the bow area, in the event of sudden maneuvers, stops, or
collisions. I realize nobody plans on such events happening, but they
occasionally do, and passengers are less likely to be thrown from the boat
in the cockpit area, which typically has much more height from the sole to
the gunwales, than in the bow area of a bowrider. As has been mentioned
many times already, the Cuddy is multifunctional, providing out of the way
and secure (lockable) storage for gear, as well as sleeping accommodations
and privacy. The bowrider area has only two functions, seating for people
who aren't paying for the boat, and letting weather and greenies into the
cockpit. I've owned two Cuddys and thoroughly enjoyed all aspects of the
small cabin. I've never had any interest in owning a bowrider. Honestly, I
simply can't understand anybody who thinks eight people in a 20' boat is a
good time.



Lawrence James October 1st 03 02:44 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Yep, lakes in the carolinas.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 01:29:08 GMT, "Lawrence James"
wrote:
I can easily have 8
adults and kids in my 19 ft runabout bowrider.

=====================================

With all due respect, I hope you're a flat water boater.




David Ditch October 1st 03 02:47 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Thanks to all the replies on this newsgroup.
I am feeling more comfortable with the decision to get a cuddy vs a
bowrider.
I bet one of the reasons bowriders outsell is that maybe before you own a
boat, you ride on someone else's. In those cases owners + guests mean more
passangers and you then think about "capacity" instead of "functionality"
for the family that will spend the most time on the boat.
As a future boat owner (if all goes well) I was originally thinking how many
of my friends and nephews I'd fit on the boat. It was actually my wife that
pointed out we need to maximize the comfort for the immediate family first.

Thanks guys for all the info.

David
"RG" wrote in message news:xzpeb.8957$Rd4.5296@fed1read07...

"David Ditch" wrote in message
...
Hi all,
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I

was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

We have been looking at the Four Winns sundowner
We have Kids: newborn (may stay with grandparents till older), 4year old

and
2 year old
Any questions I should ask my self when determining if I should have a

cuddy
or bowrider?
We are in the Chesapeake bay near Annapolis.


Bowriders outsell Cuddys by a wide margin, and I've never understood why.

I
guess kids get a kick out of sitting in the bow area. Personally, I'd

just
as soon not have people in front of the helm obstructing my view forward.
Also, I believe that passengers are inherently safer in the cockpit area

of
a runabout than in the bow area, in the event of sudden maneuvers, stops,

or
collisions. I realize nobody plans on such events happening, but they
occasionally do, and passengers are less likely to be thrown from the boat
in the cockpit area, which typically has much more height from the sole to
the gunwales, than in the bow area of a bowrider. As has been mentioned
many times already, the Cuddy is multifunctional, providing out of the way
and secure (lockable) storage for gear, as well as sleeping accommodations
and privacy. The bowrider area has only two functions, seating for people
who aren't paying for the boat, and letting weather and greenies into the
cockpit. I've owned two Cuddys and thoroughly enjoyed all aspects of the
small cabin. I've never had any interest in owning a bowrider. Honestly,

I
simply can't understand anybody who thinks eight people in a 20' boat is a
good time.





Clams Canino October 1st 03 02:53 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Don't be that comfortable. LOL

Kids and dogs love to rude up in the bow.

-W

"David Ditch" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all the replies on this newsgroup.
I am feeling more comfortable with the decision to get a cuddy vs a
bowrider.
I bet one of the reasons bowriders outsell is that maybe before you own a
boat, you ride on someone else's. In those cases owners + guests mean more
passangers and you then think about "capacity" instead of "functionality"
for the family that will spend the most time on the boat.
As a future boat owner (if all goes well) I was originally thinking how

many
of my friends and nephews I'd fit on the boat. It was actually my wife

that
pointed out we need to maximize the comfort for the immediate family

first.

Thanks guys for all the info.

David
"RG" wrote in message

news:xzpeb.8957$Rd4.5296@fed1read07...

"David Ditch" wrote in message
...
Hi all,
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I

was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

We have been looking at the Four Winns sundowner
We have Kids: newborn (may stay with grandparents till older), 4year

old
and
2 year old
Any questions I should ask my self when determining if I should have a

cuddy
or bowrider?
We are in the Chesapeake bay near Annapolis.


Bowriders outsell Cuddys by a wide margin, and I've never understood

why.
I
guess kids get a kick out of sitting in the bow area. Personally, I'd

just
as soon not have people in front of the helm obstructing my view

forward.
Also, I believe that passengers are inherently safer in the cockpit area

of
a runabout than in the bow area, in the event of sudden maneuvers,

stops,
or
collisions. I realize nobody plans on such events happening, but they
occasionally do, and passengers are less likely to be thrown from the

boat
in the cockpit area, which typically has much more height from the sole

to
the gunwales, than in the bow area of a bowrider. As has been mentioned
many times already, the Cuddy is multifunctional, providing out of the

way
and secure (lockable) storage for gear, as well as sleeping

accommodations
and privacy. The bowrider area has only two functions, seating for

people
who aren't paying for the boat, and letting weather and greenies into

the
cockpit. I've owned two Cuddys and thoroughly enjoyed all aspects of

the
small cabin. I've never had any interest in owning a bowrider.

Honestly,
I
simply can't understand anybody who thinks eight people in a 20' boat is

a
good time.







Lawrence James October 1st 03 02:55 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Coast guard capacity plate says 8. It is a sport interior and easily fits 3
in the bow, 2 in the bucket seats and 3 on the bench. We're talk fair
weather boating here. I'va had 11 in it, not legal but when you're on a
lake and the fathest you can get from shore is about 500 feet??? I've got
jackets for 14, cause you need so many sizes to cover everyone.

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:59:44 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:57:33 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

using the same logic, I can easily carry 11 (legally)
aboard my 23 cuddy...


Legal != smart nor safe


I won't argue that point. I did, however, think that 8 in a 19 footer
sounded a bit *illegal*, and tried (unsuccessfully perhaps) to infer
that point.



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Bill Kiene October 1st 03 05:48 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
David,

I would say get the cuddy cabin for the Chesapeake Bay. If bad weather comes
in, you have no where to hide in a bowrider.

Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA
www.kiene.com

"David Ditch" wrote in message
...
Hi all,
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

We have been looking at the Four Winns sundowner
We have Kids: newborn (may stay with grandparents till older), 4year old

and
2 year old
Any questions I should ask my self when determining if I should have a

cuddy
or bowrider?
We are in the Chesapeake bay near Annapolis.

David





Bob D. October 1st 03 04:03 PM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Ahhh I smell a programmer amongst us :^)


Legal != smart nor safe


megabite October 2nd 03 12:50 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Children and the Wife will NEED an oppotunity to take care of personal
business. A cuddy cabin in spite of the heat will provide a secure private
place for the inevitable. Heat can be easily vented with a good 12 volt
marine vent such as the one made by Fan-tastic Vent in Imlay City, Mi.
810-724-3818 ask for Bob or Larry.
"David Ditch" wrote in message
...
Hi all,
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

We have been looking at the Four Winns sundowner
We have Kids: newborn (may stay with grandparents till older), 4year old

and
2 year old
Any questions I should ask my self when determining if I should have a

cuddy
or bowrider?
We are in the Chesapeake bay near Annapolis.

David





David Ditch October 2nd 03 01:41 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Thanks!

David
"megabite" wrote in message
...
Children and the Wife will NEED an oppotunity to take care of personal
business. A cuddy cabin in spite of the heat will provide a secure private
place for the inevitable. Heat can be easily vented with a good 12 volt
marine vent such as the one made by Fan-tastic Vent in Imlay City, Mi.
810-724-3818 ask for Bob or Larry.
"David Ditch" wrote in message
...
Hi all,
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I

was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

We have been looking at the Four Winns sundowner
We have Kids: newborn (may stay with grandparents till older), 4year old

and
2 year old
Any questions I should ask my self when determining if I should have a

cuddy
or bowrider?
We are in the Chesapeake bay near Annapolis.

David







Bob D. October 2nd 03 06:08 PM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Let's not foget that in an inordinate number of boating fatalities the
person has their fly open!

Bob "I better tie this rope to my waist" Dimond

In article , "megabite"
wrote:

Children and the Wife will NEED an oppotunity to take care of personal
business. A cuddy cabin in spite of the heat will provide a secure private
place for the inevitable. Heat can be easily vented with a good 12 volt
marine vent such as the one made by Fan-tastic Vent in Imlay City, Mi.
810-724-3818 ask for Bob or Larry.
"David Ditch" wrote in message
...
Hi all,
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

We have been looking at the Four Winns sundowner
We have Kids: newborn (may stay with grandparents till older), 4year old

and
2 year old
Any questions I should ask my self when determining if I should have a

cuddy
or bowrider?
We are in the Chesapeake bay near Annapolis.

David



Capt. Frank Hopkins October 9th 03 02:44 PM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Formula PC cruisers have overhead insulation as standard equipment, so
the cabin does not get very hot. Of course, I did install a 7000 btu
heat pump so though it be too hot or too cold outside, it is comfortable
inside. I think your wife will also like the head (Bathroom) and Galley
layouts. You will like the easy access to the engine room, and the
double bed you can stretch out in.

http://www.formulaboats.com/

I am on my 3rd formula now, and can speak very well of the boats as far
as quality and functionality goes.


Capt. Frank

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks

David Ditch wrote:

Hi all,
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I was
wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

We have been looking at the Four Winns sundowner
We have Kids: newborn (may stay with grandparents till older), 4year old and
2 year old
Any questions I should ask my self when determining if I should have a cuddy
or bowrider?
We are in the Chesapeake bay near Annapolis.

David




Capt. Frank Hopkins October 10th 03 02:22 AM

cuddy get too hot?
 
Your wife is wise, and you would be even wiser to listen to what she has
to say G If you want an opinion of a specific brand of boat, please
e-mail, and if I know anything about it, I will give you the skinny.

Have a look at my website (attached below) and look in the "Abandon
Ship" section for info about kids and dogs in boats.

Capt. Frank
"la Dolce Vita"
Jacksonville, FL

David Ditch wrote:

Thanks to all the replies on this newsgroup.
I am feeling more comfortable with the decision to get a cuddy vs a
bowrider.
I bet one of the reasons bowriders outsell is that maybe before you own a
boat, you ride on someone else's. In those cases owners + guests mean more
passangers and you then think about "capacity" instead of "functionality"
for the family that will spend the most time on the boat.
As a future boat owner (if all goes well) I was originally thinking how many
of my friends and nephews I'd fit on the boat. It was actually my wife that
pointed out we need to maximize the comfort for the immediate family first.

Thanks guys for all the info.

David
"RG" wrote in message news:xzpeb.8957$Rd4.5296@fed1read07...

"David Ditch" wrote in message
...

Hi all,
My wife and I are on the fence about a bowrider or a cuddy. On thing I


was

wondering is if the cabin gets really hot when you are not moving?

We have been looking at the Four Winns sundowner
We have Kids: newborn (may stay with grandparents till older), 4year old


and

2 year old
Any questions I should ask my self when determining if I should have a


cuddy

or bowrider?
We are in the Chesapeake bay near Annapolis.


Bowriders outsell Cuddys by a wide margin, and I've never understood why.


I

guess kids get a kick out of sitting in the bow area. Personally, I'd


just

as soon not have people in front of the helm obstructing my view forward.
Also, I believe that passengers are inherently safer in the cockpit area


of

a runabout than in the bow area, in the event of sudden maneuvers, stops,


or

collisions. I realize nobody plans on such events happening, but they
occasionally do, and passengers are less likely to be thrown from the boat
in the cockpit area, which typically has much more height from the sole to
the gunwales, than in the bow area of a bowrider. As has been mentioned
many times already, the Cuddy is multifunctional, providing out of the way
and secure (lockable) storage for gear, as well as sleeping accommodations
and privacy. The bowrider area has only two functions, seating for people
who aren't paying for the boat, and letting weather and greenies into the
cockpit. I've owned two Cuddys and thoroughly enjoyed all aspects of the
small cabin. I've never had any interest in owning a bowrider. Honestly,


I

simply can't understand anybody who thinks eight people in a 20' boat is a
good time.








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