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Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 07/07/2011 4:59 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:58:08 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 16:35:27 -0600, wrote: On 06/07/2011 4:29 PM, wf3h wrote: On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 15:43:19 -0600, wrote: Too bad Obama didn't study more American history in his formative years. you just learned how to spell history too bad you haven't learned how to spell 'klan' Three fleabaggers in a row. Just a bunch of worthless losers and leaches. You seem fascinated with your racism and the klan. yeah you hooded race baiting klan cross burners fascinate me. dont know why you're so stupid. it's amazing to watch you make the same mistakes over and over and over... Reply: You racist pig. says the chief porker himself Just because Obama is black to you, he can do no wrong. just because obama's black, to you he can do no right He bailed out Wall Street and all his buddies. nope. henry paulson did that. but paulson is white and he worked for bush so you have to blame the darkie But did not bail out the home owners who had loans with those same financial institutions. wall street wouldn't permit it. no moey for the middle class. all money for wall street...that's what you guys wanted, remember? you guys were the architects of bailing out wall street Then same financial institutions started foreclosures. after the GOP revised teh bankruptcy rules in 2006 to make it harder for the middle class..but not the rich....to declare bankruptcy Obama and a then Democrat controlled Congress, has only supported their rich Financial house backers and their union backers. gee. since there are no unions in the US your statement is a lie in addition, the architect of the bailout was henry paulson he was BUSH's treasury secretary bush is white. obama...aint They have screwed the rest of us. \ yep the right deregulated the banks, transferred ALL money to the rich and made it impossible to regulate the bianks courtesy of bush and the GOP. but you blame teh black guy If you do not think we will have sky high inflation shortly, you are in denial! Obama has doubled Bush spending really? prove it. oh. you can't. you merely lie because you hate blacks . Overspent in 2 years what Bush overspent in 8 years. well no. bush's last budget was 1.2T in debt obama's is 1.5 oh. but obama's black so since you hate blacks you just lie Has nothing to do with Obama's color, has to do with a hugely clueless person at the helm of state. uh no. bush caused the deficit. he gave us HUGE tax cuts with NO spedning cuts he gave us a trillion dollar war so why do you ignore these? because he's white He has no business experience, little real life experience. amount of business experience for bush? none. his daddy's buddies set him up in business. he never had to work a day in his life but he was white Hey, think, this could happen to the US currency....and it will not even by anything, discontined in 2009 as it became worthless. Reason? Governemt created too much money to try paying its debts. http://www.glenstephens.com/snjuly09.html -- Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future. And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags... |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 19:07:19 -0400, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:14:43 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: On 07/07/2011 2:02 PM, wrote: On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:58:08 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: TARP happened under Bush... so much for your command of the facts. TARP was a one time shot of $750 billion..... Obama is already well past $4 trillion.s notice the racist clown doesnt know bush gave us 2 big tax cuts with NO spending cuts bush gave us a trillion dollar war amazing he thinks this had NO effect!!! aint it amazing! only the right wing would ingore the MASSIVE tax cuts for the rich the deregulations of the banks but bush is white Corruption. Union buddies really sold out Americans because the money really got funneled to Carlyle and Cerberus groups, lots of Saudi and Bush money there, all signed off by Obama and the Denocrats. since there are no unions in the US we can just attribute this to delusions of the right and the carlyle group? uh....run by donald rumsfeld...bush's sec of defense Hey.. come on. Give Knuckles a break. He didn't get his share of the $10 trillion. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 7/6/2011 2:53 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Watching Obama on TV right now. Sounds like he is saying if I can't saddle tones of debt on your grand kids, we are screwed. Big debt whiner can't run government properly. Maybe he needs to shrink government now. Keep the education, keep the priorities and dump the massive waste. Because even if he taxed the likes of Bill Gates 100% of his net worth, it wouldn't keep the government going for much more than 2 weeks. The man is a bull**** artist. This goes well beyond the "rich". Ok, give him the rich tax per Clinton, but then no more DEBT and no more taxes -- he must balance the budget. Time for a tea-party take on this. And jam reality up this delinquent debtors ass hard. He is defrauding all Americans with DEBT. A bamboozling jive turkey. Time to tell Obama, balanced budget starts NOW. Not tomorrow, not next week, not for our grand kids, you right nwo are going to stop your debt-fraud-corruption and need to get back to realty. More than $4 trillion in debt, and no results. Time for a REAL change. Pay your bills you debt worshiping deadbeat welsher. He hasn't helped anything but the problem got out of hand with Reagan when he declared Defecits didn't matter. Bush II or more correctly Wall Street/Fed/Senate/House, put things in overdrive. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 7/7/2011 8:01 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 13:35:05 -0600, wrote: On 07/07/2011 3:57 AM, wf3h wrote: On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:54:19 -0600, wrote: you're hopelessly stupid. you're a world class moron.you are to ignorance what the pacific ocean is to water Pretty simple really. e the gospel according to the right wing When you have a debt problem, the last thing you should do is go on a spending spree. and that's exactly what wall street did Want to know why wages are pathetic? hey idiot...they've been stagnant for 30 years The chart in the middle of the link below tells it all. Bit government slides those payroll taxes in so employers pay less. As governemtn gets bigger, people get smaller. the US has the lowest tax burden of any country in the west but we have a darkie pres and to the right that means we're doomed Black is beautiful |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 7/7/11 8:20 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Hey, think, this could happen to the US currency....and it will not even by anything, discontined in 2009 as it became worthless. Reason? Governemt created too much money to try paying its debts. So, you *didn't* go beyond the third grade in grammar school? You are without question the lousiest writer in rec.boats. Leaving aside the fact that your "arguments" are specious, why do you expect to debate issues when your language skills are so ****-poor? -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 7/8/2011 7:13 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/7/11 8:20 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Hey, think, this could happen to the US currency....and it will not even by anything, discontined in 2009 as it became worthless. Reason? Governemt created too much money to try paying its debts. So, you *didn't* go beyond the third grade in grammar school? You are without question the lousiest writer in rec.boats. Leaving aside the fact that your "arguments" are specious, why do you expect to debate issues when your language skills are so ****-poor? Mighty snarky of you Krausie. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:50:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 07/07/2011 3:47 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:39:55 -0600, wrote: Ryan is in it to get reelected. That's it. I made no point about him. I'd suggest some medication for your delusional situation. The reason I think we haven't heard from congress, is that they know the system is hopelessly screwed at this point. HAHAHAHAH he's been bleating that everything was PERFECT until jan. 20 2009. Obama was inaugurated at noon, destroyed the economy by 3 then took the day off. and now it's hopeless!! ROFLMAO!! what simplistic nonsense from the far right Some scary statistics. Revenue from income tax is down 50% from 2006 wehn in 2007 the new democrat congress took over. Yep, US federal income tax revenue is down to 2/3rds of 2006 in real dollars. yeah go figure. bush and the GOP passed 2 tax cuts that went to the rich. the rich then threw 10 million people out of work. our taxes are the LOWEST THEY'VE BEEN IN SIXTY YEARS and to the right they're not low enough! Yet government spending doubled. Certainly isn't sustainable in anyones wildest imagination. Obama talk of $2 trillion in 10 years, the idiot needs $2 trillion a YEAR. gee. govt doubled? where? govts are having record layoffs. oh. he's right wing. he makes **** up. You could confiscate all US billionaires total net worth, and Obama would still run a deficit at the end of the year and have no income tax from them in the next year. and the billionaires wrecked this country by giving themselves a 500% increase in pay in the last 30 years while the middle class had NOTHING. the billionaires spent all their money playing monopoly instead of creating jobs. they bought each other's companies instead of creating jobs. they merged instead of creating jobs. in short, right wingers like cant**** complain that the middle class isnt doing enough to protect billionaires The only things growing in USA today is debt, unemployment and bull****. funny...sweden, with its welfare state and strong regulations and strong unions is doing just fine |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 08/07/2011 8:32 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:50:51 -0600, wrote: On 07/07/2011 3:47 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:39:55 -0600, wrote: Ryan is in it to get reelected. That's it. I made no point about him. I'd suggest some medication for your delusional situation. The reason I think we haven't heard from congress, is that they know the system is hopelessly screwed at this point. HAHAHAHAH he's been bleating that everything was PERFECT until jan. 20 2009. Obama was inaugurated at noon, destroyed the economy by 3 then took the day off. and now it's hopeless!! ROFLMAO!! what simplistic nonsense from the far right Some scary statistics. Revenue from income tax is down 50% from 2006 wehn in 2007 the new democrat congress took over. Yep, US federal income tax revenue is down to 2/3rds of 2006 in real dollars. yeah go figure. bush and the GOP passed 2 tax cuts that went to the rich. the rich then threw 10 million people out of work. our taxes are the LOWEST THEY'VE BEEN IN SIXTY YEARS and to the right they're not low enough! Yet government spending doubled. Certainly isn't sustainable in anyones wildest imagination. Obama talk of $2 trillion in 10 years, the idiot needs $2 trillion a YEAR. gee. govt doubled? where? govts are having record layoffs. oh. he's right wing. he makes **** up. You could confiscate all US billionaires total net worth, and Obama would still run a deficit at the end of the year and have no income tax from them in the next year. and the billionaires wrecked this country by giving themselves a 500% increase in pay in the last 30 years while the middle class had NOTHING. the billionaires spent all their money playing monopoly instead of creating jobs. they bought each other's companies instead of creating jobs. they merged instead of creating jobs. in short, right wingers like cant**** complain that the middle class isnt doing enough to protect billionaires The only things growing in USA today is debt, unemployment and bull****. funny...sweden, with its welfare state and strong regulations and strong unions is doing just fine Funny, I lived in Norway for awhile. I know it isn't Sweden but similar socialism there too. No welfare, just workfare. Idiots like you would have to work. Great place to do a work stint, fjords were awesome as were the people. But not the place I would like to live in. I see Obama made more progress in destroying the USA.... the last shuttle launched today. Yep, rather bailout GM losers, banks and pad corrupt buddies but not keep the only peaceful science thing the government does. Reward incompetence and screw the advancement to space. I guess space now belongs to China, Russia and India. USA is loosing its ability to put a man in space. I hear future Americans now will have to get a lift from the Russians. How ironic. A major inspiration of American children to get into science is now nearing the end of its history. Hey, people would have gotten raises but check out how instead of seeing it in the pay check, employment taxes have gone up for the last 30 years to fuel bigger, fatter, more expensive government. Governemnt gets bigger, people get smaller. -- Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future. And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags... |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 08/07/2011 8:32 AM, wf3h wrote: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:50:51 -0600, wrote: The only things growing in USA today is debt, unemployment and bull****. funny...sweden, with its welfare state and strong regulations and strong unions is doing just fine Funny, I lived in Norway for awhile. I know it isn't Se weden but similar socialism there too. No welfare, just workfare. Idiots like you would have to work. gee. they're doing fine. the american dream? dying under the onslaught of the right I see Obama made more progress in destroying the USA.... the last ee shuttle launched today. Yep, rather bailout GM losers, banks and pad corrupt buddies but not keep the only peaceful science thing the government does. Reward incompetence and screw the advancement to space.ou funny you should say that since he's just choosing the options the right has left him. it's dawning on them they have destroyed the country Hey, people would have gotten raises but check out how instead of seeing it in the pay check, employment taxes have gone up for the last 30 years to fuel bigger, fatter, more expensive government. Governemnt gets bigger, people get smaller. the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: On 08/07/2011 8:32 AM, wf3h wrote: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:50:51 -0600, wrote: The only things growing in USA today is debt, unemployment and bull****. funny...sweden, with its welfare state and strong regulations and strong unions is doing just fine Funny, I lived in Norway for awhile. I know it isn't Se weden but similar socialism there too. No welfare, just workfare. Idiots like you would have to work. gee. they're doing fine. the american dream? dying under the onslaught of the right I see Obama made more progress in destroying the USA.... the last ee shuttle launched today. Yep, rather bailout GM losers, banks and pad corrupt buddies but not keep the only peaceful science thing the government does. Reward incompetence and screw the advancement to space.ou funny you should say that since he's just choosing the options the right has left him. it's dawning on them they have destroyed the country Hey, people would have gotten raises but check out how instead of seeing it in the pay check, employment taxes have gone up for the last 30 years to fuel bigger, fatter, more expensive government. Governemnt gets bigger, people get smaller. the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L G wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: I see Obama made more progress in destroying the USA.... the last ee shuttle launched today. Yep, rather bailout GM losers, banks and pad corrupt buddies but not keep the only peaceful science thing the government does. Reward incompetence and screw the advancement to space.ou funny you should say that since he's just choosing the options the right has left him. it's dawning on them they have destroyed the country Hey, people would have gotten raises but check out how instead of seeing it in the pay check, employment taxes have gone up for the last 30 years to fuel bigger, fatter, more expensive government. Governemnt gets bigger, people get smaller. the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 08/07/2011 7:38 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: I see Obama made more progress in destroying the USA.... the last ee shuttle launched today. Yep, rather bailout GM losers, banks and pad corrupt buddies but not keep the only peaceful science thing the government does. Reward incompetence and screw the advancement to space.ou funny you should say that since he's just choosing the options the right has left him. it's dawning on them they have destroyed the country Hey, people would have gotten raises but check out how instead of seeing it in the pay check, employment taxes have gone up for the last 30 years to fuel bigger, fatter, more expensive government. Governemnt gets bigger, people get smaller. the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS Because people are unemployed idiot. Your average household has much less than 2/3rd the dollars coming in today than in 2006. Unless your a government civil servant that is, they just kept on growing. Going to get worse too. As government gets bigger, people get smaller. "The Goose That Laid The Golden Egg" principle at work. Fleabag'in took too much. -- Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future. And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags... |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: I see Obama made more progress in destroying the USA.... the last ee shuttle launched today. Yep, rather bailout GM losers, banks and pad corrupt buddies but not keep the only peaceful science thing the government does. Reward incompetence and screw the advancement to space.ou funny you should say that since he's just choosing the options the right has left him. it's dawning on them they have destroyed the country Hey, people would have gotten raises but check out how instead of seeing it in the pay check, employment taxes have gone up for the last 30 years to fuel bigger, fatter, more expensive government. Governemnt gets bigger, people get smaller. the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS So, in your small mind, you associate the size of the US government with the tax revenue it collects? You aren't only blind, you are a moron, Bobbie! |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
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says... wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: I see Obama made more progress in destroying the USA.... the last ee shuttle launched today. Yep, rather bailout GM losers, banks and pad corrupt buddies but not keep the only peaceful science thing the government does. Reward incompetence and screw the advancement to space.ou funny you should say that since he's just choosing the options the right has left him. it's dawning on them they have destroyed the country Hey, people would have gotten raises but check out how instead of seeing it in the pay check, employment taxes have gone up for the last 30 years to fuel bigger, fatter, more expensive government. Governemnt gets bigger, people get smaller. the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS So, in your small mind, you associate the size of the US government with the tax revenue it collects? You aren't only blind, you are a moron, Bobbie! Hey, but he called you a bunch of names and wrote it like a four year old... -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 7/10/2011 12:22 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articleftWdnUysEOt0j4TTnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews. com, says... wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: I see Obama made more progress in destroying the USA.... the last ee shuttle launched today. Yep, rather bailout GM losers, banks and pad corrupt buddies but not keep the only peaceful science thing the government does. Reward incompetence and screw the advancement to space.ou funny you should say that since he's just choosing the options the right has left him. it's dawning on them they have destroyed the country Hey, people would have gotten raises but check out how instead of seeing it in the pay check, employment taxes have gone up for the last 30 years to fuel bigger, fatter, more expensive government. Governemnt gets bigger, people get smaller. the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS So, in your small mind, you associate the size of the US government with the tax revenue it collects? You aren't only blind, you are a moron, Bobbie! Hey, but he called you a bunch of names and wrote it like a four year old... He should enroll in Harrie's bonehead English class. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 08/07/2011 7:38 PM, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS Because people are unemployed idiot. Your average household has much less than 2/3rd the dollars coming in today than in 2006. Unless your a government civil servant that is, they just kept on growing. so let's see. you lied about the level of taxes. that's no surprise...you're right wing. you always lie. then you proved you didn't know **** about taxes. no surprise there either. the right wing doesnt know **** about taxes and the reason we dont have money in the US middle class? because in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% pay increase. that's where the money went. so you dont know **** about the economic profile of the US, taxes or govt no surprise. you're right wing Going to get worse too. As government gets bigger, people get smaller. gee. taxes are the lowest they've been in 60 years. you just admitted that now you forgot it. again. you're right wing alright |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:48:18 -0400, L G wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS So, in your small mind, you associate the size of the US government with the tax revenue it collects? You aren't only blind, you are a moron, Bobbie! gee. someone's gotta pay for it. how's the GOP doing in tax cutting? any specifics? oh. none. the right keeps telling us we're overtaxed oh. you're lying about that. moron |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 10/07/2011 9:38 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, wrote: On 08/07/2011 7:38 PM, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS Because people are unemployed idiot. Your average household has much less than 2/3rd the dollars coming in today than in 2006. Unless your a government civil servant that is, they just kept on growing. so let's see. you lied about the level of taxes. that's no surprise...you're right wing. you always lie. then you proved you didn't know **** about taxes. no surprise there either. the right wing doesnt know **** about taxes Spoken like a envious gutter slug. and the reason we dont have money in the US middle class? because in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% pay increase. that's where the money went. How much did you save? Oh, you screwed it away on toys and are now broke. Got it. so you dont know **** about the economic profile of the US, taxes or govt no surprise. you're right wing Conservative economics just works better. No ****. Told me to watch for 2008....while your liberal economic idiot deer were on the tracks in a comatose state, staring at the freight train. Going to get worse too. As government gets bigger, people get smaller. gee. taxes are the lowest they've been in 60 years. you just admitted that now you forgot it. again. you're right wing alright Taxes are low as people lost their jobs and unemployment is 1929 levels. Unemployed without alternative sources of income don't pay taxes. They are not lower for an individual that is working. -- Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future. And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags... |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 7/10/11 12:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/07/2011 9:38 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, wrote: On 08/07/2011 7:38 PM, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS Because people are unemployed idiot. Your average household has much less than 2/3rd the dollars coming in today than in 2006. Unless your a government civil servant that is, they just kept on growing. so let's see. you lied about the level of taxes. that's no surprise...you're right wing. you always lie. then you proved you didn't know **** about taxes. no surprise there either. the right wing doesnt know **** about taxes Spoken like a envious gutter slug. and the reason we dont have money in the US middle class? because in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% pay increase. that's where the money went. How much did you save? Oh, you screwed it away on toys and are now broke. Got it. so you dont know **** about the economic profile of the US, taxes or govt no surprise. you're right wing Conservative economics just works better. No ****. Told me to watch for 2008....while your liberal economic idiot deer were on the tracks in a comatose state, staring at the freight train. Going to get worse too. As government gets bigger, people get smaller. gee. taxes are the lowest they've been in 60 years. you just admitted that now you forgot it. again. you're right wing alright Taxes are low as people lost their jobs and unemployment is 1929 levels. Unemployed without alternative sources of income don't pay taxes. They are not lower for an individual that is working. During the Clinton years, when taxes on the wealthy were a bit higher, we had a budgetary surplus. Bush cut those slightly higher taxes on the wealthy and now we have deficits. D'oh. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:55:02 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 10/07/2011 9:38 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, wrote: ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS Because people are unemployed idiot. Your average household has much less than 2/3rd the dollars coming in today than in 2006. Unless your a government civil servant that is, they just kept on growing. so let's see. you lied about the level of taxes. that's no surprise...you're right wing. you always lie. then you proved you didn't know **** about taxes. no surprise there either. the right wing doesnt know **** about taxes Spoken like a envious gutter slug. i so let's see...you spout right wing cliches. have no evidence. lie. then get aggravated because someone tells you the facts... and the reason we dont have money in the US middle class? because in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% pay increase. that's where the money went. How much did you save? Oh, you screwed it away on toys and are now broke. Got it. sorry sport. we were talking about the american economy or did you forget? so you dont know **** about the economic profile of the US, taxes or govt no surprise. you're right wing Conservative economics just works better. No ****. really? then why has the US GDP increased faster with DEMOCRATIC presidents than GOP presidents?? oh. you didnt know that. and THIS ECONOMY WE HAVE NOW is due to CONSERVATIVE ECONOMICS. the US has the most right wing economy in the western world how we doing? now you forgot it. again. you're right wing alright Taxes are low as people lost their jobs and unemployment is 1929 levels. ah. so you finally admit all the bull**** you've been saying about the US being taxed to death is just bull**** thanks. i knew that. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 10/07/2011 11:38 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/10/11 12:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 10/07/2011 9:38 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, wrote: On 08/07/2011 7:38 PM, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS Because people are unemployed idiot. Your average household has much less than 2/3rd the dollars coming in today than in 2006. Unless your a government civil servant that is, they just kept on growing. so let's see. you lied about the level of taxes. that's no surprise...you're right wing. you always lie. then you proved you didn't know **** about taxes. no surprise there either. the right wing doesnt know **** about taxes Spoken like a envious gutter slug. and the reason we dont have money in the US middle class? because in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% pay increase. that's where the money went. How much did you save? Oh, you screwed it away on toys and are now broke. Got it. so you dont know **** about the economic profile of the US, taxes or govt no surprise. you're right wing Conservative economics just works better. No ****. Told me to watch for 2008....while your liberal economic idiot deer were on the tracks in a comatose state, staring at the freight train. Going to get worse too. As government gets bigger, people get smaller. gee. taxes are the lowest they've been in 60 years. you just admitted that now you forgot it. again. you're right wing alright Taxes are low as people lost their jobs and unemployment is 1929 levels. Unemployed without alternative sources of income don't pay taxes. They are not lower for an individual that is working. During the Clinton years, when taxes on the wealthy were a bit higher, we had a budgetary surplus. Bush cut those slightly higher taxes on the wealthy and now we have deficits. D'oh. Funny, at this point let the tax greed go rampant as by itself, it is ****ing in the wind but if it makes fleabaggers happy. Will just accelerate the downfall of the USA. Because I don't believe congress has the guts to do what is needed. Or perhaps they realize it is past the tipping point of no return? Hopelessness? Could be. Arguing with you fleabaggers is well, hopeless too. Your lack of understanding basic economics and fairness was displaced by greed, envy, debt and other such sins. Fact is your f'ed and just don't just realize it yet. -- Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future. And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags... |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 7/10/11 3:34 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Arguing with you fleabaggers is well, hopeless too. Your lack of understanding basic economics and fairness was displaced by greed, envy, debt and other such sins. That's rich, Canukee. I haven't seen anyone arguing with you...I have seen a lot of posts pointing out and laughing at your ignorance, hatreds and insanities. Perhaps if the economy improves in your area, you can get a job clerking the midnight shift at the local convenience store. That is, if you can be trained to operate a cash register. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:34:17 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 10/07/2011 11:38 AM, Harryk wrote: On 7/10/11 12:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 10/07/2011 9:38 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, wrote: During the Clinton years, when taxes on the wealthy were a bit higher, we had a budgetary surplus. Bush cut those slightly higher taxes on the wealthy and now we have deficits. D'oh. Funny, at this point let the tax greed go rampant as by itself, it is ****ing in the wind but if it makes fleabaggers happy. Will just accelerate the downfall of the USA. Because I don't believe congress has the guts to do what is needed. Or perhaps they realize it is past the tipping point of no return? Hopelessness? Could be gee. no one seems to agree with you. not conservatives not liberals not economists ever get the idea you dont know what the hell you're talking about? oh....the lunatics they DO agree with you |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 10/07/2011 1:45 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/10/11 3:34 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Arguing with you fleabaggers is well, hopeless too. Your lack of understanding basic economics and fairness was displaced by greed, envy, debt and other such sins. That's rich, Canukee. I haven't seen anyone arguing with you...I have seen a lot of posts pointing out and laughing at your ignorance, hatreds and insanities. Perhaps if the economy improves in your area, you can get a job clerking the midnight shift at the local convenience store. That is, if you can be trained to operate a cash register. Funny, all those posts came from 3 fleabags, yourself, wtf3 and defumer. Hurts my feelings NOT. No need for me to work for a wage again. Byproduct of having no debt for so long, investing in myself and productive parts of the economy. -- Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future. And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags... |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 10/07/2011 3:19 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:34:17 -0600, wrote: On 10/07/2011 11:38 AM, Harryk wrote: On 7/10/11 12:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 10/07/2011 9:38 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, wrote: During the Clinton years, when taxes on the wealthy were a bit higher, we had a budgetary surplus. Bush cut those slightly higher taxes on the wealthy and now we have deficits. D'oh. Funny, at this point let the tax greed go rampant as by itself, it is ****ing in the wind but if it makes fleabaggers happy. Will just accelerate the downfall of the USA. Because I don't believe congress has the guts to do what is needed. Or perhaps they realize it is past the tipping point of no return? Hopelessness? Could be gee. no one seems to agree with you. not conservatives not liberals not economists ever get the idea you dont know what the hell you're talking about? oh....the lunatics they DO agree with you Funny, would those be the same idiots that had your pension in Wall Street carnage of Sept/Oct/Nov 2008? Hahahaha...I saw it as a buying opportunity in the middle of 2009 Q1. Made off like a bandit because I see liberalism in economics, I flush it like a turd. Now if I could short the value of a USD, that would be cool. -- Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future. And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags... |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 7/10/11 6:18 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/07/2011 3:19 PM, wf3h wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:34:17 -0600, wrote: On 10/07/2011 11:38 AM, Harryk wrote: On 7/10/11 12:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 10/07/2011 9:38 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, wrote: During the Clinton years, when taxes on the wealthy were a bit higher, we had a budgetary surplus. Bush cut those slightly higher taxes on the wealthy and now we have deficits. D'oh. Funny, at this point let the tax greed go rampant as by itself, it is ****ing in the wind but if it makes fleabaggers happy. Will just accelerate the downfall of the USA. Because I don't believe congress has the guts to do what is needed. Or perhaps they realize it is past the tipping point of no return? Hopelessness? Could be gee. no one seems to agree with you. not conservatives not liberals not economists ever get the idea you dont know what the hell you're talking about? oh....the lunatics they DO agree with you Funny, would those be the same idiots that had your pension in Wall Street carnage of Sept/Oct/Nov 2008? Hahahaha...I saw it as a buying opportunity in the middle of 2009 Q1. Made off like a bandit because I see liberalism in economics, I flush it like a turd. Now if I could short the value of a USD, that would be cool. I don't think you have two nickels to rub together. What did you buy in 2009? A pack of bubble gum? There's no evidence in rec.boats that you have or had the brain power to do much more than minimum wage work. You're probably on disability. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:18:18 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 10/07/2011 3:19 PM, wf3h wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:34:17 -0600, wrote: gee. no one seems to agree with you. not conservatives not liberals not economists ever get the idea you dont know what the hell you're talking about? oh....the lunatics they DO agree with you Funny, would those be the same idiots that had your pension in Wall Street carnage of Sept/Oct/Nov 2008? HAHAHAAH uh no. YOU GUYS...the RIGHT..raped the US and NOW you're saying you had nothing to do with it!! Hahahaha...I saw it as a buying opportunity in the middle of 2009 Q1. Made off like a bandit because I see liberalism in economics, I flush it like a turd. l love these little reader's digest stories. the right wing cant handle facts so they make up little fairy tales. is your mommy going to burp you before she puts you to bed? |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
"Harryk" wrote in message ...
On 7/10/11 12:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 10/07/2011 9:38 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, wrote: On 08/07/2011 7:38 PM, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS Because people are unemployed idiot. Your average household has much less than 2/3rd the dollars coming in today than in 2006. Unless your a government civil servant that is, they just kept on growing. so let's see. you lied about the level of taxes. that's no surprise...you're right wing. you always lie. then you proved you didn't know **** about taxes. no surprise there either. the right wing doesnt know **** about taxes Spoken like a envious gutter slug. and the reason we dont have money in the US middle class? because in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% pay increase. that's where the money went. How much did you save? Oh, you screwed it away on toys and are now broke. Got it. so you dont know **** about the economic profile of the US, taxes or govt no surprise. you're right wing Conservative economics just works better. No ****. Told me to watch for 2008....while your liberal economic idiot deer were on the tracks in a comatose state, staring at the freight train. Going to get worse too. As government gets bigger, people get smaller. gee. taxes are the lowest they've been in 60 years. you just admitted that now you forgot it. again. you're right wing alright Taxes are low as people lost their jobs and unemployment is 1929 levels. Unemployed without alternative sources of income don't pay taxes. They are not lower for an individual that is working. During the Clinton years, when taxes on the wealthy were a bit higher, we had a budgetary surplus. Bush cut those slightly higher taxes on the wealthy and now we have deficits. D'oh. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing Reply: We really did not have a budget surplus. Congress spent all the extra money, and committed it to future spending also. The extra revenues were from a bubble. dot.com options taxed when awarded, were the big revenue generator, not any real job growth. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:35:07 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "Harryk" wrote in message ... On 7/10/11 12:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 10/07/2011 9:38 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, wrote: On 08/07/2011 7:38 PM, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS Because people are unemployed idiot. Your average household has much less than 2/3rd the dollars coming in today than in 2006. Unless your a government civil servant that is, they just kept on growing. so let's see. you lied about the level of taxes. that's no surprise...you're right wing. you always lie. then you proved you didn't know **** about taxes. no surprise there either. the right wing doesnt know **** about taxes Spoken like a envious gutter slug. and the reason we dont have money in the US middle class? because in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% pay increase. that's where the money went. How much did you save? Oh, you screwed it away on toys and are now broke. Got it. so you dont know **** about the economic profile of the US, taxes or govt no surprise. you're right wing Conservative economics just works better. No ****. Told me to watch for 2008....while your liberal economic idiot deer were on the tracks in a comatose state, staring at the freight train. Going to get worse too. As government gets bigger, people get smaller. gee. taxes are the lowest they've been in 60 years. you just admitted that now you forgot it. again. you're right wing alright Taxes are low as people lost their jobs and unemployment is 1929 levels. Unemployed without alternative sources of income don't pay taxes. They are not lower for an individual that is working. During the Clinton years, when taxes on the wealthy were a bit higher, we had a budgetary surplus. Bush cut those slightly higher taxes on the wealthy and now we have deficits. D'oh. Reply: We really did not have a budget surplus. Congress spent all the extra money, and committed it to future spending also. The extra revenues were from a bubble. dot.com options taxed when awarded, were the big revenue generator, not any real job growth. As usual, you know your facts about as well as you know how to post the right way. http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the...under-clinton/ |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 11/07/2011 10:35 AM, Califbill wrote:
"Harryk" wrote in message ... On 7/10/11 12:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 10/07/2011 9:38 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, wrote: On 08/07/2011 7:38 PM, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS Because people are unemployed idiot. Your average household has much less than 2/3rd the dollars coming in today than in 2006. Unless your a government civil servant that is, they just kept on growing. so let's see. you lied about the level of taxes. that's no surprise...you're right wing. you always lie. then you proved you didn't know **** about taxes. no surprise there either. the right wing doesnt know **** about taxes Spoken like a envious gutter slug. and the reason we dont have money in the US middle class? because in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% pay increase. that's where the money went. How much did you save? Oh, you screwed it away on toys and are now broke. Got it. so you dont know **** about the economic profile of the US, taxes or govt no surprise. you're right wing Conservative economics just works better. No ****. Told me to watch for 2008....while your liberal economic idiot deer were on the tracks in a comatose state, staring at the freight train. Going to get worse too. As government gets bigger, people get smaller. gee. taxes are the lowest they've been in 60 years. you just admitted that now you forgot it. again. you're right wing alright Taxes are low as people lost their jobs and unemployment is 1929 levels. Unemployed without alternative sources of income don't pay taxes. They are not lower for an individual that is working. During the Clinton years, when taxes on the wealthy were a bit higher, we had a budgetary surplus. Bush cut those slightly higher taxes on the wealthy and now we have deficits. D'oh. Clinton didn't have to service 9.7 trillion plus Obama-debt..... Trouble with debt is, if you double the debt it becomes 4 times the problem. The deeper you go, the less likely you are to get out. Government debt is like a mortgage but never gets paid off. So the first payment is every payment, almost 100% non-value added interest and servicing costs. Sure, go for the wealthy, but in reality they are the ones investing the cash return they get into job producing investments so even few job creating investments will be made. Hey, delinquent debtors and unions don't invest. And also know it reduces their future income tax. And wealthy to Obama is about anyone with a job and money. So with this wealth tax put back, how does Obama come up with the rest, still a $1.5 trillion deficit. Still no where close to a balanced budget. I get a kick out of this bull****. Congress obviously are just scared rabbits. They are talking 1 to 4 trillion in 10 years. They need to talk $1.7 trillion per year starting right now. Obama is playing the sluff it off to the next president game. Congress should just pass a $1.6 trillion cut it spending right now. Your average American has no clue what is about to happen to the USD...but here is a hint, depreciation of the USD (inflation) on the world markets is ramping up fast. And the government is already into spiral debt. May be even past the tipping point. Japanese have seen a 30% decrease in the standard of living in the last 3 years. It is coming to the USA. People should be mad as hornets. The only answer is an immediate downsize of the US government to fit revenue. Spend less than they rake in. Real money is gold, China and India now convert most of the cash to precious metals and not increasing the USD hold. USD is now failing as a world reserve currency. Only thing lacking is an alternative and the USD will become toilet paper. -- Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future. And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags... |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 7/11/11 2:11 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Sure, go for the wealthy, but in reality they are the ones investing the cash return they get into job producing investments so even few job creating investments will be made. They're not investing, moron. They are hoarding their cash. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says... On 7/11/11 2:11 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Sure, go for the wealthy, but in reality they are the ones investing the cash return they get into job producing investments so even few job creating investments will be made. They're not investing, moron. They are hoarding their cash. Harry, if you dislike name calling so much that you don't allow it in your google group, how come you come here and do just that? If I find some particular action offensive, I certainly don't do the same thing that offends me. Most people don't. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 7/11/11 2:58 PM, iBoat more wrote:
In , naled24511 @mypacks.net says... On 7/11/11 2:11 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Sure, go for the wealthy, but in reality they are the ones investing the cash return they get into job producing investments so even few job creating investments will be made. They're not investing, moron. They are hoarding their cash. Harry, if you dislike name calling so much that you don't allow it in your google group, how come you come here and do just that? If I find some particular action offensive, I certainly don't do the same thing that offends me. Most people don't. **** you asshole, you are just ****ed because I won't allow you to join my Facebook Group or my Google Groups. I am talking about having someone design a web site for me, so I can custom design my group exactly the way I want, and you will not be invited to that group either. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
"wf3h" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:48:18 -0400, L G wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS So, in your small mind, you associate the size of the US government with the tax revenue it collects? You aren't only blind, you are a moron, Bobbie! gee. someone's gotta pay for it. how's the GOP doing in tax cutting? any specifics? oh. none. the right keeps telling us we're overtaxed oh. you're lying about that. moron Reply: Moron? We do not have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem! The government requires excess wages in any government contract. Not what the market can support, and then taxes the rest of the people to enforce the excess payments. Living Wage! **** that! Pay what the job is worth. Minimum wage should be for those starting out with little skills. After 10 years in the workforce, there should be no minimum wage required. If you can not produce more than the MW you would earn, then you are not worth hiring. I do not care if it was Right or Left who overspent. And both parties did the overspending. Both parties have caused inflation over the last 30 years. When Nixon instituted wage and price controls the inflation rate was an unacceptable 3.3%. Over the last 30 years we have exceeded 4.8% a year rate. 1980 a mid level engineer, with a college degree made about $22k-23k a year. Now that is poverty level. We have inflated wages so much we have priced ourselves out of most manufacturing jobs. UAW built crap cars and not caring about the quality, drove buyers to foreign cars. Better quality for the same price. Was also management, but the workers did not help. Management should have been fired also. They assemble them here with lower cost workers. Screwed the UAW workers for being overpaid, underworked, careless workers. Same in a lot of other industries. All that deficit spending, is hurting the country in a couple of ways. Serious hurting! Inflating the US dollar to make us less competitive, and sucking up most of the capitol available to loan. Where is business who needs capitol to start of expand, going to get that capitol? Every business in the country is cutting back on employees and spending. Except for the US Federal Government. They have added 36,000 more employees and increased wages for most of the government employees. Raise taxes all you want, but without meaningful spending cuts, we are doomed. We need at least a $1.5 trillion dollar cut in spending, not a pathetic $36 Billion cut. Less than a percent. We also need to scrap the requirement to pay prevailing wages as now defined. The definition seems to be whatever the highest union negotiated wage is, not what is prevailing as paid in the industry. We need to allow companies to fire union workers who are incompetent a lot easier. Sure the union can protect workers from unjust termination, but a person drunk on the job, should be fired. Not have a court rule you have to keep them on the payroll. Happened to the SF Muni transit district. Drunk bus driver. They were required to pay him back wages and reinstate him in the job. A drunk bus driver! Sure there should be changes to the tax code, but those are not going to stop the deficit. May reduce in a minimal amount, but not what spending cuts would do. Kill the alcohol farm subsidy. Tax hedge fund managers at wage level not capitol gains level. Kill the cotton subsidy, kill a lot of the water subsidy. Where a farmer can pay $10 an acre foot and resell it to towns at $1000. Spending cuts are what are needed. There are not enough tax revenues available to rescue us. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 7/11/11 3:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
Reply: Moron? We do not have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem! GO talking points bull****. Nothing more. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:11:56 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 11/07/2011 10:35 AM, Califbill wrote: "Harryk" wrote in message ... On 7/10/11 12:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 10/07/2011 9:38 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, wrote: On 08/07/2011 7:38 PM, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS Because people are unemployed idiot. Your average household has much less than 2/3rd the dollars coming in today than in 2006. Unless your a government civil servant that is, they just kept on growing. so let's see. you lied about the level of taxes. that's no surprise...you're right wing. you always lie. then you proved you didn't know **** about taxes. no surprise there either. the right wing doesnt know **** about taxes Spoken like a envious gutter slug. and the reason we dont have money in the US middle class? because in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% pay increase. that's where the money went. How much did you save? Oh, you screwed it away on toys and are now broke. Got it. so you dont know **** about the economic profile of the US, taxes or govt no surprise. you're right wing Conservative economics just works better. No ****. Told me to watch for 2008....while your liberal economic idiot deer were on the tracks in a comatose state, staring at the freight train. Going to get worse too. As government gets bigger, people get smaller. gee. taxes are the lowest they've been in 60 years. you just admitted that now you forgot it. again. you're right wing alright Taxes are low as people lost their jobs and unemployment is 1929 levels. Unemployed without alternative sources of income don't pay taxes. They are not lower for an individual that is working. During the Clinton years, when taxes on the wealthy were a bit higher, we had a budgetary surplus. Bush cut those slightly higher taxes on the wealthy and now we have deficits. D'oh. Clinton didn't have to service 9.7 trillion plus Obama-debt..... Trouble with debt is, if you double the debt it becomes 4 times the problem. The deeper you go, the less likely you are to get out. Government debt is like a mortgage but never gets paid off. So the first payment is every payment, almost 100% non-value added interest and servicing costs. Sure, go for the wealthy, but in reality they are the ones investing the cash return they get into job producing investments so even few job creating investments will be made. Hey, delinquent debtors and unions don't invest. And also know it reduces their future income tax. And wealthy to Obama is about anyone with a job and money. So with this wealth tax put back, how does Obama come up with the rest, still a $1.5 trillion deficit. Still no where close to a balanced budget. I get a kick out of this bull****. Congress obviously are just scared rabbits. They are talking 1 to 4 trillion in 10 years. They need to talk $1.7 trillion per year starting right now. Obama is playing the sluff it off to the next president game. Congress should just pass a $1.6 trillion cut it spending right now. Your average American has no clue what is about to happen to the USD...but here is a hint, depreciation of the USD (inflation) on the world markets is ramping up fast. And the government is already into spiral debt. May be even past the tipping point. Japanese have seen a 30% decrease in the standard of living in the last 3 years. It is coming to the USA. People should be mad as hornets. The only answer is an immediate downsize of the US government to fit revenue. Spend less than they rake in. Real money is gold, China and India now convert most of the cash to precious metals and not increasing the USD hold. USD is now failing as a world reserve currency. Only thing lacking is an alternative and the USD will become toilet paper. You're truly stupid. Sure, throw more people out of work. Gov't workers don't pay taxes or buy things. Oh wait, they do. But, those big corps who ship jobs overseas, they pay their fair share. Oh wait, they don't. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:56:05 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:48:18 -0400, L G wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS So, in your small mind, you associate the size of the US government with the tax revenue it collects? You aren't only blind, you are a moron, Bobbie! gee. someone's gotta pay for it. how's the GOP doing in tax cutting? any specifics? oh. none. the right keeps telling us we're overtaxed oh. you're lying about that. moron Reply: Moron? We do not have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem! The government requires excess wages in any government contract. Not what the market can support, and then taxes the rest of the people to enforce the excess payments. Living Wage! **** that! Pay what the job is worth. Minimum wage should be for those starting out with little skills. After 10 years in the workforce, there should be no minimum wage required. If you can not produce more than the MW you would earn, then you are not worth hiring. I do not care if it was Right or Left who overspent. And both parties did the overspending. Both parties have caused inflation over the last 30 years. When Nixon instituted wage and price controls the inflation rate was an unacceptable 3.3%. Over the last 30 years we have exceeded 4.8% a year rate. 1980 a mid level engineer, with a college degree made about $22k-23k a year. Now that is poverty level. We have inflated wages so much we have priced ourselves out of most manufacturing jobs. UAW built crap cars and not caring about the quality, drove buyers to foreign cars. Better quality for the same price. Was also management, but the workers did not help. Management should have been fired also. They assemble them here with lower cost workers. Screwed the UAW workers for being overpaid, underworked, careless workers. Same in a lot of other industries. All that deficit spending, is hurting the country in a couple of ways. Serious hurting! Inflating the US dollar to make us less competitive, and sucking up most of the capitol available to loan. Where is business who needs capitol to start of expand, going to get that capitol? Every business in the country is cutting back on employees and spending. Except for the US Federal Government. They have added 36,000 more employees and increased wages for most of the government employees. Raise taxes all you want, but without meaningful spending cuts, we are doomed. We need at least a $1.5 trillion dollar cut in spending, not a pathetic $36 Billion cut. Less than a percent. We also need to scrap the requirement to pay prevailing wages as now defined. The definition seems to be whatever the highest union negotiated wage is, not what is prevailing as paid in the industry. We need to allow companies to fire union workers who are incompetent a lot easier. Sure the union can protect workers from unjust termination, but a person drunk on the job, should be fired. Not have a court rule you have to keep them on the payroll. Happened to the SF Muni transit district. Drunk bus driver. They were required to pay him back wages and reinstate him in the job. A drunk bus driver! Sure there should be changes to the tax code, but those are not going to stop the deficit. May reduce in a minimal amount, but not what spending cuts would do. Kill the alcohol farm subsidy. Tax hedge fund managers at wage level not capitol gains level. Kill the cotton subsidy, kill a lot of the water subsidy. Where a farmer can pay $10 an acre foot and resell it to towns at $1000. Spending cuts are what are needed. There are not enough tax revenues available to rescue us. As usual, you can't even get simple facts right. Inflation had been above 6% the above 4% when the controls when into effect. They soon went to double-digit and the wage/price control method was thoroughly debunked as a solution to inflation. "Living Wage! **** that!" Well, that pretty much sums up your attitude. **** everyone who isn't as well off as you and who cares if they or their kids starve. After all, we're just like Somalia. NOT. |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:35:07 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: Reply: We really did not have a budget surplus. Congress spent all the extra money, and committed it to future spending also. The extra revenues were from a bubble. dot.com options taxed when awarded, were the big revenue generator, not any real job growth. wrong. using the same accounting methods that the GOP uses today, we had a surplus and the largest expenditures in history were the 2 tax cuts the GOP did in 2001 and 2003, and bush's trillion dollar war in iraq the GOP is bankrupting us while protecting wall street |
Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:11:56 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 11/07/2011 10:35 AM, Califbill wrote: "Harryk" wrote in message ... During the Clinton years, when taxes on the wealthy were a bit higher, we had a budgetary surplus. Bush cut those slightly higher taxes on the wealthy and now we have deficits. D'oh. Clinton didn't have to service 9.7 trillion plus Obama-debt..... can he name the debt? nope. can he tell us what obama did? nope but he knows obama's black... Sure, go for the wealthy, but in reality they are the ones investing the cash return they get into job producing investments so even few job creating investments will be made. more cliches and bull**** in lieu of evidence. capital gains today are as low as they've been in history. how's that working out? we at full employment? nope. the trickle down bull**** that causes the right wing to suck the cocks of the rich like a baby suck its mom's tits is a wonder to behold. the rich arent doing **** for america right now except sittling on piles of cash. the middle class bailed out the rich and the rich repaid us by laying us off and sitting on the money but the right wing ignores this. Hey, delinquent debtors and unions don't invest. And also know it reduces their future income tax. And wealthy to Obama is about anyone with a job and money. america has no unions. canuck sits in canada, with govt healthcare and more unions than the US has and canada's economy is healthier than the US. but he ignores that. more right wing bull**** So with this wealth tax put back, how does Obama come up with the rest, still a $1.5 trillion deficit. Still no where close to a balanced budget. and where is the GOP balanced budget? oh. there isnt one. Your average American has no clue what is about to happen to the USD. nor do you kluxer clown. ...he US government to fit revenue. Spend less than they rake in. Real money is gold, China and India now convert most of the cash to precious metals and not increasing the USD hold. USD is now failing as a world reserve currency. Only thing lacking is an alternative and the USD will become toilet paper. china is now having its own inflation problems. and the canadian dollar...with socialized medicine and strong unions is healthier than right wing free market america |
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