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Ethanol subsidy and boating
The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to
happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
On Jun 18, 1:56*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. *In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. *Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. *Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I don't think it took a rep or dem house to figure it out. it came down to the bottom line. Subsidies are going to be cut for the ethanol plants. burning corn squeezin's costs more all the way around, and isn't green like originally thought/planned. |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I guess enough good republicans and a good brain day. Not all repulicans are good, some are fleabaggers. But on a good day fleabaggers don't vote. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
On 6/18/11 5:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I guess enough good republicans and a good brain day. Not all repulicans are good, some are fleabaggers. But on a good day fleabaggers don't vote. You fellows don't seem to get anything right. The votes in question were in the Senate, not the House, and is opposed by most teabagger Republicans. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
On Jun 18, 7:01*pm, Harryk wrote:
On 6/18/11 5:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I guess enough good republicans and a good brain day. Not all repulicans are good, some are fleabaggers. But on a good day fleabaggers don't vote. You fellows don't seem to get anything right. The votes in question were in the Senate, not the House, and is opposed by most teabagger Republicans. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ~~ SNERK ~~ These Dopers are a laugh a minute. |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
On 6/18/11 7:35 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article24fda46d-5cc8-44b6-b9e1-d7a6c5d1b2b9 @i11g2000yqo.googlegroups.com, says... On Jun 18, 7:01 pm, wrote: On 6/18/11 5:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I guess enough good republicans and a good brain day. Not all repulicans are good, some are fleabaggers. But on a good day fleabaggers don't vote. You fellows don't seem to get anything right. The votes in question were in the Senate, not the House, and is opposed by most teabagger Republicans. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ~~ SNERK ~~ These Dopers are a laugh a minute. So you come here insulting again to trash the group, then you are going to ask folks to go to your "new" group where you promise not to do that... Sick **** man... You teabaggers are entitled to your opinions, but not to your facts. The votes were in the Senate, not in the House, and the end to the subsidies has been opposed by the teabagger Republicans. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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North Star wrote:
On Jun 18, 7:01 pm, wrote: On 6/18/11 5:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I guess enough good republicans and a good brain day. Not all repulicans are good, some are fleabaggers. But on a good day fleabaggers don't vote. You fellows don't seem to get anything right. The votes in question were in the Senate, not the House, and is opposed by most teabagger Republicans. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ~~ SNERK ~~ These Dopers are a laugh a minute. And you are nothing but a poor, lazy, lemming, dummy. |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
Harryk wrote:
On 6/18/11 7:35 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article24fda46d-5cc8-44b6-b9e1-d7a6c5d1b2b9 @i11g2000yqo.googlegroups.com, says... On Jun 18, 7:01 pm, wrote: On 6/18/11 5:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I guess enough good republicans and a good brain day. Not all repulicans are good, some are fleabaggers. But on a good day fleabaggers don't vote. You fellows don't seem to get anything right. The votes in question were in the Senate, not the House, and is opposed by most teabagger Republicans. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ~~ SNERK ~~ These Dopers are a laugh a minute. So you come here insulting again to trash the group, then you are going to ask folks to go to your "new" group where you promise not to do that... Sick **** man... You teabaggers are entitled to your opinions, but not to your facts. The votes were in the Senate, not in the House, and the end to the subsidies has been opposed by the teabagger Republicans. That has nothing to do wit his response. Try again, narcissist. |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
In article 24fda46d-5cc8-44b6-b9e1-d7a6c5d1b2b9
@i11g2000yqo.googlegroups.com, says... On Jun 18, 7:01*pm, Harryk wrote: On 6/18/11 5:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I guess enough good republicans and a good brain day. Not all repulicans are good, some are fleabaggers. But on a good day fleabaggers don't vote. You fellows don't seem to get anything right. The votes in question were in the Senate, not the House, and is opposed by most teabagger Republicans. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ~~ SNERK ~~ These Dopers are a laugh a minute. Why don't you and Harry go back to your great new group and stay there? |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:16:32 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: In article c09ff065-aa24-4628-af9c-23f8bd3bd1f6 , says... The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. Too much lack of knowledge and understanding here to comment on. So I'll just do the easy correction. Nothing happened. The Senate vote mean absolutely nothing. The pols have suckered you once again. Correct. It would need the companion bill in the House to pass, then it goes to committee, then the President would have to sign it. The WH has said it won't, and it's unlikely to survive in the House. However, that's what negotiation is all about. I disagree that the Senate vote means nothing. I think it indicates there's a possibility of rational minds to win out over partisan bickering. |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
On 18/06/2011 4:01 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 6/18/11 5:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I guess enough good republicans and a good brain day. Not all repulicans are good, some are fleabaggers. But on a good day fleabaggers don't vote. You fellows don't seem to get anything right. The votes in question were in the Senate, not the House, and is opposed by most teabagger Republicans. Who cares, less subsidies, less taxes, less government is always good. Fleabaggers are too selfish and needy screw ups to understand why. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:05:29 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 18/06/2011 4:01 PM, Harryk wrote: On 6/18/11 5:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I guess enough good republicans and a good brain day. Not all repulicans are good, some are fleabaggers. But on a good day fleabaggers don't vote. You fellows don't seem to get anything right. The votes in question were in the Senate, not the House, and is opposed by most teabagger Republicans. Who cares, less subsidies, less taxes, less government is always good. Fleabaggers are too selfish and needy screw ups to understand why. You're a simpleton. |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:05:29 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 18/06/2011 4:01 PM, Harryk wrote: On 6/18/11 5:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: T You fellows don't seem to get anything right. The votes in question were in the Senate, not the House, and is opposed by most teabagger Republicans. Who cares, less subsidies, less taxes, less government is always good. Fleabaggers are too selfish and needy screw ups to understand why. doenst matter. the US right wing has engineered the political process to ensure the rich can buy the process |
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Ethanol subsidy and boating
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:08:35 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 19/06/2011 2:27 PM, wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:05:29 -0600, wrote: On 18/06/2011 4:01 PM, Harryk wrote: On 6/18/11 5:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I guess enough good republicans and a good brain day. Not all repulicans are good, some are fleabaggers. But on a good day fleabaggers don't vote. You fellows don't seem to get anything right. The votes in question were in the Senate, not the House, and is opposed by most teabagger Republicans. Who cares, less subsidies, less taxes, less government is always good. Fleabaggers are too selfish and needy screw ups to understand why. You're a simpleton. No, it was well past your comprehension level. Uh huh, so then you would prefer no military, no police, no fire depts., no libraries, etc., since less gov't is _always_ good. As I said, you're a simpleton. |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
On 19/06/2011 7:28 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:08:35 -0600, wrote: On 19/06/2011 2:27 PM, wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:05:29 -0600, wrote: On 18/06/2011 4:01 PM, Harryk wrote: On 6/18/11 5:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I guess enough good republicans and a good brain day. Not all repulicans are good, some are fleabaggers. But on a good day fleabaggers don't vote. You fellows don't seem to get anything right. The votes in question were in the Senate, not the House, and is opposed by most teabagger Republicans. Who cares, less subsidies, less taxes, less government is always good. Fleabaggers are too selfish and needy screw ups to understand why. You're a simpleton. No, it was well past your comprehension level. Uh huh, so then you would prefer no military, no police, no fire depts., no libraries, etc., since less gov't is _always_ good. As I said, you're a simpleton. Lookup the government budget, and how little actually benefits Americans. Keeping in mind many departments say something like education, but is that for Americans or foreign countries? -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
Ethanol subsidy and boating
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:24:16 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 19/06/2011 7:28 PM, wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:08:35 -0600, wrote: On 19/06/2011 2:27 PM, wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:05:29 -0600, wrote: On 18/06/2011 4:01 PM, Harryk wrote: On 6/18/11 5:22 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 18/06/2011 12:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: The demise of the ethanol subsidy for fuels is the best thing to happen to boating in the past few years. In many places, it has become very difficult to get ethanol free fuels to operate boat motors and ethanol in boat fuels has caused major problems and even destroyed many boat motors. Fuel explosions have even occurred on boats due to the ethanol dissolving fuel lines. It has been known for a long time that making ethanol from corn is an energy sink, it takes more energy to produce the ethanol than energy saved. Even worse, it drive up the cost of food and causes vehicles to be less fuel efficient. Why did it take a Republican house to finally do what anybody with more than two neurons could see needed to be done? CONGRESS FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT. I guess enough good republicans and a good brain day. Not all repulicans are good, some are fleabaggers. But on a good day fleabaggers don't vote. You fellows don't seem to get anything right. The votes in question were in the Senate, not the House, and is opposed by most teabagger Republicans. Who cares, less subsidies, less taxes, less government is always good. Fleabaggers are too selfish and needy screw ups to understand why. You're a simpleton. No, it was well past your comprehension level. Uh huh, so then you would prefer no military, no police, no fire depts., no libraries, etc., since less gov't is _always_ good. As I said, you're a simpleton. Lookup the government budget, and how little actually benefits Americans. Keeping in mind many departments say something like education, but is that for Americans or foreign countries? As usual, you're unable to actually speak to the issue. Typical moron, right wing nut. |
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