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Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine.
This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot, that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner. |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:29:28 -0400, John H
wrote: The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. Not bad indeed, incredibly good for a heavy duty truck. What is your max towing weight, and is it a dualie? |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:34:27 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:29:28 -0400, John H wrote: The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. Not bad indeed, incredibly good for a heavy duty truck. What is your max towing weight, and is it a dualie? No, mine's not a dually. It's max towing capacity is 13,000 lbs. Enough for me! We're considering one of these now... http://tinyurl.com/6h3g9qh But, it'll be a year or two. |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:18:13 -0400, John H
wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:34:27 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:29:28 -0400, John H wrote: The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. Not bad indeed, incredibly good for a heavy duty truck. What is your max towing weight, and is it a dualie? No, mine's not a dually. It's max towing capacity is 13,000 lbs. Enough for me! We're considering one of these now... http://tinyurl.com/6h3g9qh But, it'll be a year or two. Nice! That's a real "Land Yacht" as some people call their RVs. :-) If you really want it, I'd do it now before diesel hits $10/gal. |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:44:36 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:18:13 -0400, John H wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:34:27 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:29:28 -0400, John H wrote: The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. Not bad indeed, incredibly good for a heavy duty truck. What is your max towing weight, and is it a dualie? No, mine's not a dually. It's max towing capacity is 13,000 lbs. Enough for me! We're considering one of these now... http://tinyurl.com/6h3g9qh But, it'll be a year or two. Nice! That's a real "Land Yacht" as some people call their RVs. :-) If you really want it, I'd do it now before diesel hits $10/gal. Well, if diesel hits $10 a gallon, we'll just have to save twice as long before going to Alaska. For the past month or so, I've found diesel for less than regular at some stations. Now it's back up, but it's still between regular and high test. It's running about 3.88/gal. I'm doing a lot more motorcycle and bike riding. |
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John H wrote:
Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine. This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot, that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner. Not bad at all. What ever happened to diesel costing less than regular unleaded? From what I've read, there is less money spent to refine it so it must be a political thing. |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:44:40 -0400, L G wrote:
John H wrote: Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine. This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot, that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner. Not bad at all. What ever happened to diesel costing less than regular unleaded? From what I've read, there is less money spent to refine it so it must be a political thing. From what I've read it's due to demand...and higher taxes on diesel. |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:24:32 -0400, John H
wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:44:40 -0400, L G wrote: John H wrote: Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine. This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot, that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner. Not bad at all. What ever happened to diesel costing less than regular unleaded? From what I've read, there is less money spent to refine it so it must be a political thing. From what I've read it's due to demand...and higher taxes on diesel. There has also been a great deal of political pressure on the refinery operators to ensure that they are producing sufficient quantities of home heating oil and gasoline. The new environmental regs requiring low sulfur diesel have also had an impact. |
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"Wayne B" wrote in message
... On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:24:32 -0400, John H wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:44:40 -0400, L G wrote: John H wrote: Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine. This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot, that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner. Not bad at all. What ever happened to diesel costing less than regular unleaded? From what I've read, there is less money spent to refine it so it must be a political thing. From what I've read it's due to demand...and higher taxes on diesel. There has also been a great deal of political pressure on the refinery operators to ensure that they are producing sufficient quantities of home heating oil and gasoline. The new environmental regs requiring low sulfur diesel have also had an impact. Reply: About 20 cents more tax on a gallon and cost to produce is probably equal. Years ago, they distilled the crude and diesel was more of a byproduct. Now with catalytic cracking, they make more gasoline and other products as required. My 2004 Duramax gets about 19.5 mpg driving 70, but the newer years have one more gear in the tranny so get a mile or two. |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:08:23 -0700, "Califbill" wrote:
"Wayne B" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:24:32 -0400, John H wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:44:40 -0400, L G wrote: John H wrote: Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine. This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot, that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner. Not bad at all. What ever happened to diesel costing less than regular unleaded? From what I've read, there is less money spent to refine it so it must be a political thing. From what I've read it's due to demand...and higher taxes on diesel. There has also been a great deal of political pressure on the refinery operators to ensure that they are producing sufficient quantities of home heating oil and gasoline. The new environmental regs requiring low sulfur diesel have also had an impact. Reply: About 20 cents more tax on a gallon and cost to produce is probably equal. Years ago, they distilled the crude and diesel was more of a byproduct. Now with catalytic cracking, they make more gasoline and other products as required. My 2004 Duramax gets about 19.5 mpg driving 70, but the newer years have one more gear in the tranny so get a mile or two. I had the cruise control at 65 the whole way, and I've got the Allison 6 speed. |
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"John H" wrote in message
... On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:08:23 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "Wayne B" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:24:32 -0400, John H wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:44:40 -0400, L G wrote: John H wrote: Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine. This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot, that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner. Not bad at all. What ever happened to diesel costing less than regular unleaded? From what I've read, there is less money spent to refine it so it must be a political thing. From what I've read it's due to demand...and higher taxes on diesel. There has also been a great deal of political pressure on the refinery operators to ensure that they are producing sufficient quantities of home heating oil and gasoline. The new environmental regs requiring low sulfur diesel have also had an impact. Reply: About 20 cents more tax on a gallon and cost to produce is probably equal. Years ago, they distilled the crude and diesel was more of a byproduct. Now with catalytic cracking, they make more gasoline and other products as required. My 2004 Duramax gets about 19.5 mpg driving 70, but the newer years have one more gear in the tranny so get a mile or two. I had the cruise control at 65 the whole way, and I've got the Allison 6 speed. Reply: Have a hard time driving 65. Try to stay about a mile slower than the fastest cars. Towing is 55 in California, but 65 on the 70 mph interstates seems to be allowed. Most of the semi's do about 62-63. When I tow to Canada, is nice to get in the higher tow speed states. Going to the grandkids in SoCal, I leave the cruise control at about 80. 19.5 going south, 18.5 north. I get about 13.5 towing the boat with the popup slide in camper and doing about 65. Boat and trailer are about 4300# Both aluminum. |
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On Jun 17, 6:18*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:34:27 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:29:28 -0400, John H wrote: The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. Not bad indeed, incredibly good for a heavy duty truck. *What is your max towing weight, and is it a dualie? No, mine's not a dually. It's max towing capacity is 13,000 lbs. Enough for me! We're considering one of these now... http://tinyurl.com/6h3g9qh But, it'll be a year or two. Hey that's quite a lay out. Very nice. Your Duro ought to dance with that one as well. |
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On Jun 17, 7:08*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:44:36 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:18:13 -0400, John H wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:34:27 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:29:28 -0400, John H wrote: The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. Not bad indeed, incredibly good for a heavy duty truck. *What is your max towing weight, and is it a dualie? No, mine's not a dually. It's max towing capacity is 13,000 lbs. Enough for me! We're considering one of these now... http://tinyurl.com/6h3g9qh But, it'll be a year or two. Nice! That's a real "Land Yacht" as some people call their RVs. * :-) If you really want it, I'd do it now before diesel hits $10/gal. Well, if diesel hits $10 a gallon, we'll just have to save twice as long before going to Alaska. For the past month or so, I've found diesel for less than regular at some stations. Now it's back up, but it's still between regular and high test. It's running about 3.88/gal.. I'm doing a lot more motorcycle and bike riding. Today, local pump gas is $3.69 |
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On Jun 17, 4:29*pm, John H wrote:
Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine. This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot, that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner. My 90 mercury wagon will get aprox 23 ont he road, unless I'm pulling my 18 ft boat, then that 302 squats to the tune of about 14 mpg, when pulling the 23 ftr. I think I might get 10, and that's running at 50 mph out of overdrive and watching the temp guage. |
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John H wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:44:40 -0400, L wrote: John H wrote: Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine. This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot, that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner. Not bad at all. What ever happened to diesel costing less than regular unleaded? From what I've read, there is less money spent to refine it so it must be a political thing. From what I've read it's due to demand...and higher taxes on diesel. How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that. |
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:40:00 -0400, L G wrote:
John H wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:44:40 -0400, L wrote: John H wrote: Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine. This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot, that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner. Not bad at all. What ever happened to diesel costing less than regular unleaded? From what I've read, there is less money spent to refine it so it must be a political thing. From what I've read it's due to demand...and higher taxes on diesel. How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that. Here is some good info on diesel prices. http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_prices.aspx Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up. |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H
wrote: How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that. Here is some good info on diesel prices. http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_prices.aspx Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up. === Good information, thanks. It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy Corporate Speculative Excess Profits". I don't see how they could have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched article. :-) |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:40:48 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H wrote: How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that. Here is some good info on diesel prices. http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_prices.aspx Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up. === Good information, thanks. It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy Corporate Speculative Excess Profits". I don't see how they could have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched article. :-) They need those 'excess profits' to afford golf. Only we rich can afford the game. |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:26:15 -0500, Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:40:48 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H wrote: How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that. Here is some good info on diesel prices. http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_prices.aspx Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up. === Good information, thanks. It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy Corporate Speculative Excess Profits". I don't see how they could have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched article. :-) Agent just ate my reply with a typo, and in 13 yeaars, I have never figured out how. Our Lincoln Navigator has four cams and 32 valves and only manages to get 14 at 70. The thing some real walnut trim, steering wheel, little plates containing the window and door lock switches. Nice looking. So, I sometimes call it:' The Sliverado.' Casady My Silverado gets 14 mpg - when I'm pulling the travel trailer. But, that's 40% better than my 4Runner got, so I'm not complaining. |
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On Jun 19, 11:40*am, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H wrote: How has the demand changed in 10 years? *I would guess there is more gasoline sold. *The taxes are another matter. *I'll look into that. Here is some good info on diesel prices. http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_prices.aspx Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up. === Good information, thanks. It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy Corporate Speculative Excess Profits". *I don't see how they could have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched article. * *:-) But Wayne. Somebody's got to turn on the lights... http://www.google.com/search?q=dubai...=939&bih =552 |
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"John H" wrote in message
... On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:26:15 -0500, Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:40:48 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H wrote: How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that. Here is some good info on diesel prices. http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_prices.aspx Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up. === Good information, thanks. It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy Corporate Speculative Excess Profits". I don't see how they could have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched article. :-) Agent just ate my reply with a typo, and in 13 yeaars, I have never figured out how. Our Lincoln Navigator has four cams and 32 valves and only manages to get 14 at 70. The thing some real walnut trim, steering wheel, little plates containing the window and door lock switches. Nice looking. So, I sometimes call it:' The Sliverado.' Casady My Silverado gets 14 mpg - when I'm pulling the travel trailer. But, that's 40% better than my 4Runner got, so I'm not complaining. My 1999 Expedition sucked fuel. 14,5 mpg was about normal. In 100,000 miles the best I ever got on a long trip was 16.5 mpg, and that was from Los Angeles to Pleasanton and I do not think I ever got over 65 mph. My 300 HP 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph. |
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On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:46:36 -0700, "Califbill" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:26:15 -0500, Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:40:48 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H wrote: How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that. Here is some good info on diesel prices. http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_prices.aspx Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up. === Good information, thanks. It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy Corporate Speculative Excess Profits". I don't see how they could have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched article. :-) Agent just ate my reply with a typo, and in 13 yeaars, I have never figured out how. Our Lincoln Navigator has four cams and 32 valves and only manages to get 14 at 70. The thing some real walnut trim, steering wheel, little plates containing the window and door lock switches. Nice looking. So, I sometimes call it:' The Sliverado.' Casady My Silverado gets 14 mpg - when I'm pulling the travel trailer. But, that's 40% better than my 4Runner got, so I'm not complaining. My 1999 Expedition sucked fuel. 14,5 mpg was about normal. In 100,000 miles the best I ever got on a long trip was 16.5 mpg, and that was from Los Angeles to Pleasanton and I do not think I ever got over 65 mph. My 300 HP 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph. Hell, I'm feeling better and better about my big f'ing truck! |
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On Jun 19, 11:46*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
*My 300 HP 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph. Bill, you could get good gas then...This crap won't hardly burn. |
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On 6/20/11 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 19, 11:46 pm, wrote: My 300 HP 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph. Bill, you could get good gas then...This crap won't hardly burn. I've had no problems with "ethanolized" fuel in cars, trucks, four stroke outboards, four stroke lawnmower and lawn tractor, two cycle chain saw or grass trimmer. The vehicles, outboards and lawn tractor have user-changeable fuel filters. Usually, I run the chain saw and trimmer until they run dry. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On 6/20/2011 8:56 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 6/20/11 8:37 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 19, 11:46 pm, wrote: My 300 HP 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph. Bill, you could get good gas then...This crap won't hardly burn. I've had no problems with "ethanolized" fuel in cars, trucks, four stroke outboards, four stroke lawnmower and lawn tractor, two cycle chain saw or grass trimmer. The vehicles, outboards and lawn tractor have user-changeable fuel filters. Usually, I run the chain saw and trimmer until they run dry. You forgot to mention your Italian motorbike. |
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Harryk wrote:
On 6/20/11 8:37 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 19, 11:46 pm, wrote: My 300 HP 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph. Bill, you could get good gas then...This crap won't hardly burn. I've had no problems with "ethanolized" fuel in cars, trucks, four stroke outboards, four stroke lawnmower and lawn tractor, two cycle chain saw or grass trimmer. The vehicles, outboards and lawn tractor have user-changeable fuel filters. Usually, I run the chain saw and trimmer until they run dry. Paper fuel filters do nothing for ethanol, expert. |
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... Harryk wrote: On 6/20/11 8:37 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 19, 11:46 pm, wrote: My 300 HP 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph. Bill, you could get good gas then...This crap won't hardly burn. I've had no problems with "ethanolized" fuel in cars, trucks, four stroke outboards, four stroke lawnmower and lawn tractor, two cycle chain saw or grass trimmer. The vehicles, outboards and lawn tractor have user-changeable fuel filters. Usually, I run the chain saw and trimmer until they run dry. Paper fuel filters do nothing for ethanol, expert. Reply: I know the old gas got about 10% more mileage than the new stuff. But, damn, all that computerized fuel injection and separate coil for each cylinder, should get a lot more mileage than a high performance 1964 carbed engine. |
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:05:29 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "L G" wrote in message ... Harryk wrote: On 6/20/11 8:37 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 19, 11:46 pm, wrote: My 300 HP 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph. Bill, you could get good gas then...This crap won't hardly burn. I've had no problems with "ethanolized" fuel in cars, trucks, four stroke outboards, four stroke lawnmower and lawn tractor, two cycle chain saw or grass trimmer. The vehicles, outboards and lawn tractor have user-changeable fuel filters. Usually, I run the chain saw and trimmer until they run dry. Paper fuel filters do nothing for ethanol, expert. Reply: I know the old gas got about 10% more mileage than the new stuff. But, damn, all that computerized fuel injection and separate coil for each cylinder, should get a lot more mileage than a high performance 1964 carbed engine. The model T ford and renowned 409 both got about 15 MPH. So does our Navigator, and the 94 F-150. The navigator has a four cam 32 valve 330 inch V-8, which seems a bit rich for a truck. Lincoln had to match the Cadillac Northstar. Where the difference in mileage with the new cars shows up is around town, the carbs would work well at the steady cruise they were optimized for. Casady |
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On 6/21/11 8:33 AM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:05:29 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "L G" wrote in message ... Harryk wrote: On 6/20/11 8:37 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 19, 11:46 pm, wrote: My 300 HP 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph. Bill, you could get good gas then...This crap won't hardly burn. I've had no problems with "ethanolized" fuel in cars, trucks, four stroke outboards, four stroke lawnmower and lawn tractor, two cycle chain saw or grass trimmer. The vehicles, outboards and lawn tractor have user-changeable fuel filters. Usually, I run the chain saw and trimmer until they run dry. Paper fuel filters do nothing for ethanol, expert. Reply: I know the old gas got about 10% more mileage than the new stuff. But, damn, all that computerized fuel injection and separate coil for each cylinder, should get a lot more mileage than a high performance 1964 carbed engine. The model T ford and renowned 409 both got about 15 MPH. So does our Navigator, and the 94 F-150. The navigator has a four cam 32 valve 330 inch V-8, which seems a bit rich for a truck. Lincoln had to match the Cadillac Northstar. Where the difference in mileage with the new cars shows up is around town, the carbs would work well at the steady cruise they were optimized for. Casady 15 mpg? Ouch. Unless you regularly need its hauling abilities (people or a trailer), why even own such a gas hog? I presume the Navigator is similar to the Escalade, a recent version of which I had a chance to drive a couple of months ago. It wasn't a pleasure to drive; it felt like I was driving an aircraft carrier. Different strokes for different folks, of course. But what's the attraction of an SUV that's even more overstuffed, if you will, than the average SUV? -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On 6/21/2011 8:42 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 6/21/11 8:33 AM, Richard Casady wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:05:29 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "L G" wrote in message ... Harryk wrote: On 6/20/11 8:37 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 19, 11:46 pm, wrote: My 300 HP 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph. Bill, you could get good gas then...This crap won't hardly burn. I've had no problems with "ethanolized" fuel in cars, trucks, four stroke outboards, four stroke lawnmower and lawn tractor, two cycle chain saw or grass trimmer. The vehicles, outboards and lawn tractor have user-changeable fuel filters. Usually, I run the chain saw and trimmer until they run dry. Paper fuel filters do nothing for ethanol, expert. Reply: I know the old gas got about 10% more mileage than the new stuff. But, damn, all that computerized fuel injection and separate coil for each cylinder, should get a lot more mileage than a high performance 1964 carbed engine. The model T ford and renowned 409 both got about 15 MPH. So does our Navigator, and the 94 F-150. The navigator has a four cam 32 valve 330 inch V-8, which seems a bit rich for a truck. Lincoln had to match the Cadillac Northstar. Where the difference in mileage with the new cars shows up is around town, the carbs would work well at the steady cruise they were optimized for. Casady 15 mpg? Ouch. Unless you regularly need its hauling abilities (people or a trailer), why even own such a gas hog? I presume the Navigator is similar to the Escalade, a recent version of which I had a chance to drive a couple of months ago. It wasn't a pleasure to drive; it felt like I was driving an aircraft carrier. Different strokes for different folks, of course. But what's the attraction of an SUV that's even more overstuffed, if you will, than the average SUV? Same logic can be applied to your boat. Why carry all that baggage out to the bay for a picnic lunch once or twice a week. Don't you think your small Parker would fit your needs better? |
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On 6/21/11 1:53 PM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:37:52 -0400, wrote: In , says... On 6/21/2011 8:42 AM, Harryk wrote: On 6/21/11 8:33 AM, Richard Casady wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:05:29 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "L G" wrote in message ... Harryk wrote: On 6/20/11 8:37 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 19, 11:46 pm, wrote: My 300 HP 327 SS 1964 Impala got better than that, and would do 142 mph. Bill, you could get good gas then...This crap won't hardly burn. I've had no problems with "ethanolized" fuel in cars, trucks, four stroke outboards, four stroke lawnmower and lawn tractor, two cycle chain saw or grass trimmer. The vehicles, outboards and lawn tractor have user-changeable fuel filters. Usually, I run the chain saw and trimmer until they run dry. Paper fuel filters do nothing for ethanol, expert. Reply: I know the old gas got about 10% more mileage than the new stuff. But, damn, all that computerized fuel injection and separate coil for each cylinder, should get a lot more mileage than a high performance 1964 carbed engine. The model T ford and renowned 409 both got about 15 MPH. So does our Navigator, and the 94 F-150. The navigator has a four cam 32 valve 330 inch V-8, which seems a bit rich for a truck. Lincoln had to match the Cadillac Northstar. Where the difference in mileage with the new cars shows up is around town, the carbs would work well at the steady cruise they were optimized for. Casady 15 mpg? Ouch. Unless you regularly need its hauling abilities (people or a trailer), why even own such a gas hog? I presume the Navigator is similar to the Escalade, a recent version of which I had a chance to drive a couple of months ago. It wasn't a pleasure to drive; it felt like I was driving an aircraft carrier. When I was a car dealer I borrowed a GMC 3/4 T pickup off the lot. I called it the Nimitz. Different strokes for different folks, of course. But what's the attraction of an SUV that's even more overstuffed, if you will, than the average SUV? Same logic can be applied to your boat. Why carry all that baggage out to the bay for a picnic lunch once or twice a week. Don't you think your small Parker would fit your needs better? He doesn't have a boat. A Parker wouldn't make that bad a coastal cruiser, especially if you like marinas, motels, and restaurants, which we would prefer even we had, say, a nice Grand Banks. Two small four stroke motors? Casady We hada 25' Parker for a few years. Nice boat, but even with its cabin, much more a fishing boat than any kind of comfortable cruiser. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:53:00 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote: A Parker wouldn't make that bad a coastal cruiser, especially if you like marinas, motels, and restaurants, which we would prefer even we had, say, a nice Grand Banks. Two small four stroke motors? Sounds like a plan. Why don't we meet up somewhere down in the southern Caribbean next February. Your outboard Parker will be quite a conversation piece down there. |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:17:48 -0400, Wayne B
wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:53:00 -0500, Richard Casady wrote: A Parker wouldn't make that bad a coastal cruiser, especially if you like marinas, motels, and restaurants, which we would prefer even we had, say, a nice Grand Banks. Two small four stroke motors? Sounds like a plan. Why don't we meet up somewhere down in the southern Caribbean next February. Your outboard Parker will be quite a conversation piece down there. You miss the coastal part? I would cruise Iowa, which is between the two biggest rivers in North America, first, then on to Halifax. You can also trailer a Parker. Casady |
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On 6/21/11 6:37 PM, Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:17:48 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:53:00 -0500, Richard Casady wrote: A Parker wouldn't make that bad a coastal cruiser, especially if you like marinas, motels, and restaurants, which we would prefer even we had, say, a nice Grand Banks. Two small four stroke motors? Sounds like a plan. Why don't we meet up somewhere down in the southern Caribbean next February. Your outboard Parker will be quite a conversation piece down there. You miss the coastal part? I would cruise Iowa, which is between the two biggest rivers in North America, first, then on to Halifax. You can also trailer a Parker. Casady Parker has a new 28-footer on the drawing board...one with a new, larger cabin. Or so the rumors go. No one has seen it, but it is being discussed. But you'd need some monster outboards. There's a 23-footer that probably could work with two smaller outboards...150 hp each. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:37:24 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:17:48 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:53:00 -0500, Richard Casady wrote: A Parker wouldn't make that bad a coastal cruiser, especially if you like marinas, motels, and restaurants, which we would prefer even we had, say, a nice Grand Banks. Two small four stroke motors? Sounds like a plan. Why don't we meet up somewhere down in the southern Caribbean next February. Your outboard Parker will be quite a conversation piece down there. You miss the coastal part? I would cruise Iowa, which is between the two biggest rivers in North America, first, then on to Halifax. You can also trailer a Parker. Probably the best production boat in that size range for the type of cruising you describe is the Rosborough RF-246 Sedan Cruiser. http://www.rosboroughboats.com/sedan_cruiser.html We've seen a bunch and people just love them, very neat little boats. There are a number of different power options including an inboard diesel if memory is correct. |
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