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YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching
and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:25:59 -0400, John H
wrote: YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. It's amazing how much you can save when you know where to get stuff, and Tim is certainly very good at that (not to mention being very helpful and an all around good guy). |
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John H wrote:
YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. Damn! That's a bargain! When did your warranty expire? |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:42:07 -0400, L G wrote:
John H wrote: YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. Damn! That's a bargain! When did your warranty expire? The warranty hasn't expired. The damage to the original solenoid was due to operator error. |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:25:59 -0400, John H
wrote: YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. yep, tim has saved my bacon a couple of times. great guy and great resource here on the usenet |
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LOL! Hey guys, Just trying to help boaters keep boating.
Always glad to help if I can... ?;^ ) |
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:24:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
LOL! Hey guys, Just trying to help boaters keep boating. Always glad to help if I can... ?;^ ) My wife is babysitting for the younger daughter, but we'll be on the water tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again! |
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On Jun 18, 2:07*pm, John H wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:24:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: LOL! Hey guys, Just trying to help boaters keep boating. Always glad to help if I can... ?;^ ) My wife is babysitting for the younger daughter, but we'll be on the water tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again! I'm sure it will all go well, John. You're quite welcome. |
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John H wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:42:07 -0400, L wrote: John H wrote: YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. Damn! That's a bargain! When did your warranty expire? The warranty hasn't expired. The damage to the original solenoid was due to operator error. How is that possible? |
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wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:25:59 -0400, John wrote: YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. yep, tim has saved my bacon a couple of times. great guy and great resource here on the usenet We can agree on that. Tim is an upstanding guy. |
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:37:05 -0400, L G wrote:
John H wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:42:07 -0400, L wrote: John H wrote: YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. Damn! That's a bargain! When did your warranty expire? The warranty hasn't expired. The damage to the original solenoid was due to operator error. How is that possible? From this thread: "Sad story, some stupidity, happy ending!" Given all the troubles I've had with getting the boat started, which have been due to loose grounds, leaving switches on, etc, I decided to bring the boat home and check it out before the outing planned for yesterday and today. Great intentions. I tightened the ground on the engine, and then went to check the hot wire to the solenoid. Well, lucky me, there was a sticker right there showing the torque for the nut on the solenoid! So I got out my trusty Craftsman torque wrench, which I've used only on my motorcycle, set it for 8 n-m, and proceeded to tighten the nut. I couldn't believe how loose it was. After two turns of about 60 degrees with the wrench, I'd still not felt the 'click' indicating the proper torque had been achieved. I was surprised at how tight that damn nut was supposed to be. But, I started to give it another turn when 'POP', the Bakelite plastic housing broke off. (Yes, I used a whole lot of foul language!) So, I called my local Yamaha guy, who gave me an 'Oh ****, that's expensive.' He then told me he couldn't get parts from Yamaha because he'd not sold any new engines lately. He carried Triumph brand boats, and as they went bankrupt last year, he's not gotten any to sell. Upon checking, I found they've been bought and will be produced in Minnesota instead of NC. |
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John H wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:37:05 -0400, L wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:42:07 -0400, L wrote: John H wrote: YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. Damn! That's a bargain! When did your warranty expire? The warranty hasn't expired. The damage to the original solenoid was due to operator error. How is that possible? From this thread: "Sad story, some stupidity, happy ending!" Given all the troubles I've had with getting the boat started, which have been due to loose grounds, leaving switches on, etc, I decided to bring the boat home and check it out before the outing planned for yesterday and today. Great intentions. I tightened the ground on the engine, and then went to check the hot wire to the solenoid. Well, lucky me, there was a sticker right there showing the torque for the nut on the solenoid! So I got out my trusty Craftsman torque wrench, which I've used only on my motorcycle, set it for 8 n-m, and proceeded to tighten the nut. I couldn't believe how loose it was. After two turns of about 60 degrees with the wrench, I'd still not felt the 'click' indicating the proper torque had been achieved. I was surprised at how tight that damn nut was supposed to be. But, I started to give it another turn when 'POP', the Bakelite plastic housing broke off. (Yes, I used a whole lot of foul language!) So, I called my local Yamaha guy, who gave me an 'Oh ****, that's expensive.' He then told me he couldn't get parts from Yamaha because he'd not sold any new engines lately. He carried Triumph brand boats, and as they went bankrupt last year, he's not gotten any to sell. Upon checking, I found they've been bought and will be produced in Minnesota instead of NC. OK. I remember that now. I thought you were talking about it failing due to operator error while operating it! |
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:40:46 -0400, L G wrote:
John H wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:37:05 -0400, L wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:42:07 -0400, L wrote: John H wrote: YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. Damn! That's a bargain! When did your warranty expire? The warranty hasn't expired. The damage to the original solenoid was due to operator error. How is that possible? From this thread: "Sad story, some stupidity, happy ending!" Given all the troubles I've had with getting the boat started, which have been due to loose grounds, leaving switches on, etc, I decided to bring the boat home and check it out before the outing planned for yesterday and today. Great intentions. I tightened the ground on the engine, and then went to check the hot wire to the solenoid. Well, lucky me, there was a sticker right there showing the torque for the nut on the solenoid! So I got out my trusty Craftsman torque wrench, which I've used only on my motorcycle, set it for 8 n-m, and proceeded to tighten the nut. I couldn't believe how loose it was. After two turns of about 60 degrees with the wrench, I'd still not felt the 'click' indicating the proper torque had been achieved. I was surprised at how tight that damn nut was supposed to be. But, I started to give it another turn when 'POP', the Bakelite plastic housing broke off. (Yes, I used a whole lot of foul language!) So, I called my local Yamaha guy, who gave me an 'Oh ****, that's expensive.' He then told me he couldn't get parts from Yamaha because he'd not sold any new engines lately. He carried Triumph brand boats, and as they went bankrupt last year, he's not gotten any to sell. Upon checking, I found they've been bought and will be produced in Minnesota instead of NC. OK. I remember that now. I thought you were talking about it failing due to operator error while operating it! Failure due to operator error while said operator was attempting to operate a big torque wrench with very little torque. I know now how to do so. Not bad, it took only 67 years and a couple months to learn that lesson. |
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On Jun 20, 7:08*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:40:46 -0400, L G wrote: John H wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:37:05 -0400, L *wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:42:07 -0400, L * wrote: John H wrote: YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. Damn! *That's a bargain! *When did your warranty expire? The warranty hasn't expired. The damage to the original solenoid was due to operator error. How is that possible? *From this thread: "Sad story, some stupidity, happy ending!" Given all the troubles I've had with getting the boat started, which have been due to loose grounds, leaving switches on, etc, I decided to bring the boat home and check it out before the outing planned for yesterday and today. Great intentions. I tightened the ground on the engine, and then went to check the hot wire to the solenoid. Well, lucky me, there was a sticker right there showing the torque for the nut on the solenoid! So I got out my trusty Craftsman torque wrench, which I've used only on my motorcycle, set it for 8 n-m, and proceeded to tighten the nut. I couldn't believe how loose it was. After two turns of about 60 degrees with the wrench, I'd still not felt the 'click' indicating the proper torque had been achieved. I was surprised at how tight that damn nut was supposed to be. But, I started to give it another turn when 'POP', the Bakelite plastic housing broke off. (Yes, I used a whole lot of foul language!) So, I called my local Yamaha guy, who gave me an 'Oh ****, that's expensive.' He then told me he couldn't get parts from Yamaha because he'd not sold any new engines lately. He carried Triumph brand boats, and as they went bankrupt last year, he's not gotten any to sell. Upon checking, I found they've been bought and will be produced in Minnesota instead of NC. OK. *I remember that now. *I thought you were talking about it failing due to operator error while operating it! Failure due to operator error while said operator was attempting to operate a big torque wrench with very little torque. I know now how to do so. Not bad, it took only 67 years and a couple months to learn that lesson. Murphy's torque tightening rule: "Tighten it up 'till it snaps, then back 'er off a quarter turn" |
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... On Jun 20, 7:08 pm, John H wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:40:46 -0400, L G wrote: John H wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:37:05 -0400, L wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:42:07 -0400, L wrote: John H wrote: YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. Damn! That's a bargain! When did your warranty expire? The warranty hasn't expired. The damage to the original solenoid was due to operator error. How is that possible? From this thread: "Sad story, some stupidity, happy ending!" Given all the troubles I've had with getting the boat started, which have been due to loose grounds, leaving switches on, etc, I decided to bring the boat home and check it out before the outing planned for yesterday and today. Great intentions. I tightened the ground on the engine, and then went to check the hot wire to the solenoid. Well, lucky me, there was a sticker right there showing the torque for the nut on the solenoid! So I got out my trusty Craftsman torque wrench, which I've used only on my motorcycle, set it for 8 n-m, and proceeded to tighten the nut. I couldn't believe how loose it was. After two turns of about 60 degrees with the wrench, I'd still not felt the 'click' indicating the proper torque had been achieved. I was surprised at how tight that damn nut was supposed to be. But, I started to give it another turn when 'POP', the Bakelite plastic housing broke off. (Yes, I used a whole lot of foul language!) So, I called my local Yamaha guy, who gave me an 'Oh ****, that's expensive.' He then told me he couldn't get parts from Yamaha because he'd not sold any new engines lately. He carried Triumph brand boats, and as they went bankrupt last year, he's not gotten any to sell. Upon checking, I found they've been bought and will be produced in Minnesota instead of NC. OK. I remember that now. I thought you were talking about it failing due to operator error while operating it! Failure due to operator error while said operator was attempting to operate a big torque wrench with very little torque. I know now how to do so. Not bad, it took only 67 years and a couple months to learn that lesson. Murphy's torque tightening rule: "Tighten it up 'till it snaps, then back 'er off a quarter turn" Reply: One of the hilarious moments of high school was just that. We were in auto shop and the grounds keepers had the tractor for the football field in for a new muffler. The grounds keeper asked how tight is tight. Some kid in the class yelled out exactly your statement. You could hear the bolt snap all over the shop. Needless to say we were in hysterics! |
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:53:23 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Jun 20, 7:08*pm, John H wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:40:46 -0400, L G wrote: John H wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:37:05 -0400, L *wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:42:07 -0400, L * wrote: John H wrote: YES! Today I put the starter back on the Yamaha with the new solenoid found by Tim after searching and trying several different solenoids. Yamaha wanted about $570 for a new solenoid, or about $690 for a complete starter assembly. Tim found a solenoid for the Hitachi starter which ran about $21. Wow! Tim, thank you. Damn! *That's a bargain! *When did your warranty expire? The warranty hasn't expired. The damage to the original solenoid was due to operator error. How is that possible? *From this thread: "Sad story, some stupidity, happy ending!" Given all the troubles I've had with getting the boat started, which have been due to loose grounds, leaving switches on, etc, I decided to bring the boat home and check it out before the outing planned for yesterday and today. Great intentions. I tightened the ground on the engine, and then went to check the hot wire to the solenoid. Well, lucky me, there was a sticker right there showing the torque for the nut on the solenoid! So I got out my trusty Craftsman torque wrench, which I've used only on my motorcycle, set it for 8 n-m, and proceeded to tighten the nut. I couldn't believe how loose it was. After two turns of about 60 degrees with the wrench, I'd still not felt the 'click' indicating the proper torque had been achieved. I was surprised at how tight that damn nut was supposed to be. But, I started to give it another turn when 'POP', the Bakelite plastic housing broke off. (Yes, I used a whole lot of foul language!) So, I called my local Yamaha guy, who gave me an 'Oh ****, that's expensive.' He then told me he couldn't get parts from Yamaha because he'd not sold any new engines lately. He carried Triumph brand boats, and as they went bankrupt last year, he's not gotten any to sell. Upon checking, I found they've been bought and will be produced in Minnesota instead of NC. OK. *I remember that now. *I thought you were talking about it failing due to operator error while operating it! Failure due to operator error while said operator was attempting to operate a big torque wrench with very little torque. I know now how to do so. Not bad, it took only 67 years and a couple months to learn that lesson. Murphy's torque tightening rule: "Tighten it up 'till it snaps, then back 'er off a quarter turn" I can think of some pretty ugly responses to that, but I won't say 'em. |
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