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Canuck57[_9_] June 12th 11 11:24 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On 12/06/2011 10:31 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:39:11 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

but he's black...so it's GOTTA be his fault

Just more bullying by the left, you know it has nothing to do with
color, you just can't debate honestly so you turn to the race card...

let's see

you claim he increased spending by 400%

proof? none

you claimed he increased the deficit by an unprecedented amount

then admitted bush's last budget had about the same deficit


Let's see. Obama spent as much in two years, as Bush did in eight.
Pretty simple math dude, four hundred percent! Easy.


well let's see. are you a lying sack of ****?

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/

yep. federal spending in obama's 1st budget was 3.5T

bush's last budget?

3.3T

guess to the right wing, 3.5 is 8x3.3!!


Sorry is you can't do simple math...\\


tell you what

you find an elementary school teacher

tell them 8X3.3 is3.5


let us know what they say


Bush 1) never spent his last budget and 2) it was made with Obama/Democrats.

Get over it fleabagger. You president is one very corrupt dude. Just
finished reading an article that says they know the administration is in
trouble and desperate for positive PR on a corrupt failing present.
Desperate.

--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] June 12th 11 11:29 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On 11/06/2011 8:03 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:13:12 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 5:34 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 8-Jun-2011, wrote:

Going to be a lot of sunk boats if my theory is true.

Obama is going to try to welsh on the debts by starting WW III. Give
America cheap oil or we do war seems to be the policy. Broke, in
irrational levels of debt and deficit, USA is broke.

So, the Liberal fleabaggers think like 1929 ended with WW II, lets do a
WW III.

So ya think the Chicom's will finance a war for the former United States?
The more likely scenario will be the few survivors growing their own food.
The eminent default is going to be violent.


Agreed, the outcome of todays depression is most likely to become
violent, one way or another. Big loser will be the US. At first, might
seem different, but the tide will turn. US society with big government
isn't really viable any longer. Just going to be some more pain before
it is realized.


Two morons agreeing with each other... wow. It's a consensus.


More and more are realizing how wasteful and corrupt the left fleabagger
position is. Hey, Reagan could stop what Obama is too corrupt to do.
Obama chose debt-spend and big government.

Reagan, droped a trillion in debt, didn't increase government spending
but much and had recession results in 10 months.

Fact is, while fleabaggers in delusional think it is possible, you can
never debt-spend your way to economic property. No one has ever seen it
work, and US today is no exception. Just more debt.

Or the possibility, in secret Obama wants to ruin the USA with debt.
Part of Obama's hidden agenda.

--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

[email protected] June 13th 11 12:25 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:29:49 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 8:03 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:13:12 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 5:34 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 8-Jun-2011, wrote:

Going to be a lot of sunk boats if my theory is true.

Obama is going to try to welsh on the debts by starting WW III. Give
America cheap oil or we do war seems to be the policy. Broke, in
irrational levels of debt and deficit, USA is broke.

So, the Liberal fleabaggers think like 1929 ended with WW II, lets do a
WW III.

So ya think the Chicom's will finance a war for the former United States?
The more likely scenario will be the few survivors growing their own food.
The eminent default is going to be violent.

Agreed, the outcome of todays depression is most likely to become
violent, one way or another. Big loser will be the US. At first, might
seem different, but the tide will turn. US society with big government
isn't really viable any longer. Just going to be some more pain before
it is realized.


Two morons agreeing with each other... wow. It's a consensus.


More and more are realizing how wasteful and corrupt the left fleabagger
position is. Hey, Reagan could stop what Obama is too corrupt to do.
Obama chose debt-spend and big government.

Reagan, droped a trillion in debt, didn't increase government spending
but much and had recession results in 10 months.

Fact is, while fleabaggers in delusional think it is possible, you can
never debt-spend your way to economic property. No one has ever seen it
work, and US today is no exception. Just more debt.

Or the possibility, in secret Obama wants to ruin the USA with debt.
Part of Obama's hidden agenda.


I find it highly entertaining when two morons agree... dumb and
dumber.

Canuck57[_9_] June 13th 11 12:33 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On 11/06/2011 7:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:24:50 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:01:10 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:49:19 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:



gee. i just pointed out he has a good point and that proves the
fundamental basis of the position...deregulation fundamentalism...is
nonsense

but, then, you're not too bright

You post some bull**** that fits your agenda, and call anyone names that
isn't interested in spin... Duh..

the right always calls 'truth' bull****


"the right, the right, the right" "Wall st, Wall st, Wall st" It's all
you have.. oh, and name calling of course....


and the facts

dont forget the facts. i have 'em

you got squat


Hey pro debt welsher, how do you like government borrowing your SS and
wasting it?

You know SS will be cut back by spending, inflation erosion or both.



--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] June 13th 11 12:36 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On 12/06/2011 1:44 PM, Jay wrote:
On 6/12/2011 2:45 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:43:58 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 8:01 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:09:28 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 4:35 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:54:49 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 1:08 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:57:18 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 01:56:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 23:46:25 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 23:03:12 -0400,
wrote:


CSE's were invented under bush

sorry

When was the CFMA passed that allowed them to be "invented"?

ah, yes, the work of ultra right wnger phil gramm and his
enron VP
wife

you gonna tell me gramm was a liberal??

What part of "unanimous consent" confuses you?
That bill was battered around all summer. Everyone knew what
was in
it. There were many hours of debate about the CDOs and it was the
president's advisory board who were pushing it (Summers,
Greenspan and
Levitt). The only real legislative opposition was by 51
Republicans in
the house along with 9 Democrats.

yep. ever hear of 'deregulation'? the myth invented by the
right, that
deregulation was ALWAYS right. they got alot of traction with
it THEN
as tehy do now



The thing you people refuse to admit is your hero Bill Clinton
was the
cheerleader for deregulating Wall Street and your new guy Obama
is not
any better.If you are willing to admit that all of our presidents
since 1989 have been owned lock stock and barrel by big business we
agree

Yep, both the Clinton's have leaked while in office, on on a
skirt and
another wiki. Good part is Clinton's are toast politically, there
are
not enough stupid people for Clinton for a 3rd round.

Yep, Clinton shouldn't have signed that liberal bank debt policy. A
seed that grew to a depression. Fleabagger economics.

Yep, you're illiterate.

Face reality, debtors, moochers and the crooked brough the econy
into a
depression. Too much blood sucking....

Brough the econy... care to translate?

Yes, you're a blood sucker mooch.

Screw you deplume, a skank. So I misspelled. Your brain too small to
extrapolate?

And I stand by my posts without fleabagger drivel. Even Misspelled, my
posts have more intelligence than yours.

Tell me, are you disabled?


Wooo... touched a nerve little man? You're a moron!!!


Every time you post, Canuck comes back and gives you a wedgie. Will you
ever learn?


deplumer learn? Highly doubtful. I look at she-it as a perfect example
of a dysfunctional fleabagger.

Best way to deal with fleabagger lefties is to draw them out and let
them make asses out of themselves.
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] June 13th 11 12:40 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On 12/06/2011 12:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:51:08 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 6:27 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:21:15 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:54:40 -0600,
wrote:

let's see...bush lied and took us to war

4400 US troops died

1 trillion was spent

but he was white. no wonder the right wants ti impreach

the black guy

Prove Bush lied, until that the rest of your post is just trash.. You
know, same standard as democrats please, innocent until proven guilty in
a court of law...

where are the WMD's??

oh. there arent any

QED

You have proven nothing... Everyone knows the UN gave Iraq 6 full months
to clean up the mess.... Still, all you have is speculation by such
brainiacs as Arianna Huffington, and Jon Stewart, Michael Moore and
Ronald McDonald...snerk


I will give Moore this, he finally did something credible in helping
Wikileaks. Transparency in government is essential to remove the
corruption. Evil tends to lurk in dark places.

But admit, I am not really a fan of Moore over all. A lot of times he
defends idiots. I really didn't like his peace on shoting terrorists
because a media idiot was there. Hell, want to stand by a gun toting
terrorist with his kids in the car, take them out so to raise the odds
of our people coming home.


You're an illiterate little man!


Your a selfish little fear driven skank.

--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] June 13th 11 12:41 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On 12/06/2011 2:06 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/06/2011 6:27 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:21:15 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:54:40 -0600,
wrote:

let's see...bush lied and took us to war

4400 US troops died

1 trillion was spent

but he was white. no wonder the right wants ti impreach

the black guy

Prove Bush lied, until that the rest of your post is just trash.. You
know, same standard as democrats please, innocent until proven guilty in
a court of law...

where are the WMD's??

oh. there arent any

QED

You have proven nothing... Everyone knows the UN gave Iraq 6 full months
to clean up the mess.... Still, all you have is speculation by such
brainiacs as Arianna Huffington, and Jon Stewart, Michael Moore and
Ronald McDonald...snerk


I will give Moore this, he finally did something credible in helping
Wikileaks. Transparency in government is essential to remove the
corruption. Evil tends to lurk in dark places.

But admit, I am not really a fan of Moore over all. A lot of times he
defends idiots. I really didn't like his peace on shoting terrorists
because a media idiot was there. Hell, want to stand by a gun toting
terrorist with his kids in the car, take them out so to raise the odds
of our people coming home.


The problem with Moore is like Gore... Opportunists, dishonest, and
hypocritical... Both of these guys are using lies and distortions to
make a fortune on the backs of good hard working folks. Both are
frauds...


Agreed. But I give Gore the edge in his electric bill.

--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

[email protected] June 13th 11 02:24 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:38:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/06/2011 2:04 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says...

On 6/12/2011 2:45 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:43:58 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 8:01 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:09:28 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 4:35 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:54:49 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 1:08 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:57:18 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 01:56:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 23:46:25 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 23:03:12 -0400,
wrote:


CSE's were invented under bush

sorry

When was the CFMA passed that allowed them to be "invented"?

ah, yes, the work of ultra right wnger phil gramm and his enron VP
wife

you gonna tell me gramm was a liberal??

What part of "unanimous consent" confuses you?
That bill was battered around all summer. Everyone knew what was in
it. There were many hours of debate about the CDOs and it was the
president's advisory board who were pushing it (Summers, Greenspan and
Levitt). The only real legislative opposition was by 51 Republicans in
the house along with 9 Democrats.

yep. ever hear of 'deregulation'? the myth invented by the right, that
deregulation was ALWAYS right. they got alot of traction with it THEN
as tehy do now



The thing you people refuse to admit is your hero Bill Clinton was the
cheerleader for deregulating Wall Street and your new guy Obama is not
any better.If you are willing to admit that all of our presidents
since 1989 have been owned lock stock and barrel by big business we
agree

Yep, both the Clinton's have leaked while in office, on on a skirt and
another wiki. Good part is Clinton's are toast politically, there are
not enough stupid people for Clinton for a 3rd round.

Yep, Clinton shouldn't have signed that liberal bank debt policy. A
seed that grew to a depression. Fleabagger economics.

Yep, you're illiterate.

Face reality, debtors, moochers and the crooked brough the econy into a
depression. Too much blood sucking....

Brough the econy... care to translate?

Yes, you're a blood sucker mooch.

Screw you deplume, a skank. So I misspelled. Your brain too small to
extrapolate?

And I stand by my posts without fleabagger drivel. Even Misspelled, my
posts have more intelligence than yours.

Tell me, are you disabled?

Wooo... touched a nerve little man? You're a moron!!!

Every time you post, Canuck comes back and gives you a wedgie. Will you
ever learn?


Harry/Plum/Paul/most of the loogie spoofers (all one poster), thrive on
the attention...


My guess is of harryk, deplume, wf3h, bpubic we ahve two dysfunctional
fleabaggers.


No need to guess that you're a moron.

[email protected] June 13th 11 02:25 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:36:17 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/06/2011 1:44 PM, Jay wrote:
On 6/12/2011 2:45 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:43:58 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 8:01 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:09:28 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 4:35 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:54:49 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 1:08 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:57:18 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 01:56:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 23:46:25 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 23:03:12 -0400,
wrote:


CSE's were invented under bush

sorry

When was the CFMA passed that allowed them to be "invented"?

ah, yes, the work of ultra right wnger phil gramm and his
enron VP
wife

you gonna tell me gramm was a liberal??

What part of "unanimous consent" confuses you?
That bill was battered around all summer. Everyone knew what
was in
it. There were many hours of debate about the CDOs and it was the
president's advisory board who were pushing it (Summers,
Greenspan and
Levitt). The only real legislative opposition was by 51
Republicans in
the house along with 9 Democrats.

yep. ever hear of 'deregulation'? the myth invented by the
right, that
deregulation was ALWAYS right. they got alot of traction with
it THEN
as tehy do now



The thing you people refuse to admit is your hero Bill Clinton
was the
cheerleader for deregulating Wall Street and your new guy Obama
is not
any better.If you are willing to admit that all of our presidents
since 1989 have been owned lock stock and barrel by big business we
agree

Yep, both the Clinton's have leaked while in office, on on a
skirt and
another wiki. Good part is Clinton's are toast politically, there
are
not enough stupid people for Clinton for a 3rd round.

Yep, Clinton shouldn't have signed that liberal bank debt policy. A
seed that grew to a depression. Fleabagger economics.

Yep, you're illiterate.

Face reality, debtors, moochers and the crooked brough the econy
into a
depression. Too much blood sucking....

Brough the econy... care to translate?

Yes, you're a blood sucker mooch.

Screw you deplume, a skank. So I misspelled. Your brain too small to
extrapolate?

And I stand by my posts without fleabagger drivel. Even Misspelled, my
posts have more intelligence than yours.

Tell me, are you disabled?

Wooo... touched a nerve little man? You're a moron!!!


Every time you post, Canuck comes back and gives you a wedgie. Will you
ever learn?


deplumer learn? Highly doubtful. I look at she-it as a perfect example
of a dysfunctional fleabagger.

Best way to deal with fleabagger lefties is to draw them out and let
them make asses out of themselves.


We have you to learn from. You're the biggest, most experienced ass
around.

[email protected] June 13th 11 02:26 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:40:17 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/06/2011 12:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:51:08 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 6:27 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:21:15 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:54:40 -0600,
wrote:

let's see...bush lied and took us to war

4400 US troops died

1 trillion was spent

but he was white. no wonder the right wants ti impreach

the black guy

Prove Bush lied, until that the rest of your post is just trash.. You
know, same standard as democrats please, innocent until proven guilty in
a court of law...

where are the WMD's??

oh. there arent any

QED

You have proven nothing... Everyone knows the UN gave Iraq 6 full months
to clean up the mess.... Still, all you have is speculation by such
brainiacs as Arianna Huffington, and Jon Stewart, Michael Moore and
Ronald McDonald...snerk

I will give Moore this, he finally did something credible in helping
Wikileaks. Transparency in government is essential to remove the
corruption. Evil tends to lurk in dark places.

But admit, I am not really a fan of Moore over all. A lot of times he
defends idiots. I really didn't like his peace on shoting terrorists
because a media idiot was there. Hell, want to stand by a gun toting
terrorist with his kids in the car, take them out so to raise the odds
of our people coming home.


You're an illiterate little man!


Your a selfish little fear driven skank.


You're an illiterate idiot little man.

[email protected] June 13th 11 02:27 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:12:40 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:06:32 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

The problem with Moore is like Gore..


Who ever thought Moore would be the thin one.


Yeah, Al Gore is our biggest problem. Not the oil companies gouging
people, and certainly not those wonderful corps avoiding taxes,
getting public subsidies, and shipping jobs overseas.

I_am_Tosk June 13th 11 03:13 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:06:32 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

The problem with Moore is like Gore..


Who ever thought Moore would be the thin one.


LOL!

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

I_am_Tosk June 13th 11 03:14 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:12:40 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:06:32 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

The problem with Moore is like Gore..


Who ever thought Moore would be the thin one.


Yeah, Al Gore is our biggest problem. Not the oil companies gouging
people, and certainly not those wonderful corps avoiding taxes,
getting public subsidies, and shipping jobs overseas.


Gore was instrumental in starting the whole Global Taxing scam which is
the reason Obama now is trying to beat us out of using oil...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

wf3h[_2_] June 13th 11 10:14 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:33:18 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 7:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:24:50 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...


You post some bull**** that fits your agenda, and call anyone names that
isn't interested in spin... Duh..

the right always calls 'truth' bull****

"the right, the right, the right" "Wall st, Wall st, Wall st" It's all
you have.. oh, and name calling of course....


and the facts

dont forget the facts. i have 'em

you got squat


Hey pro debt welsher, how do you like government borrowing your SS and
wasting it?


never voted for bush in my life


You know SS will be cut back by spending, inflation erosion or both.


somebody's gotta pay for bush's tax cuts

wf3h[_2_] June 13th 11 10:16 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:46:17 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 6:17 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:54:49 -0600,
wrote:



Yep, Clinton shouldn't have signed that liberal bank debt policy. A
seed that grew to a depression. Fleabagger economics.


liberal??

it was written by PHIL GRAMM

only a moron who knows zip about america would call gramm a 'liberal'

ROFLMAO


Funny, are you talking of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E...0%93Bliley_Act

Yep, the law Obama will not enforce as it might toss in too many fellow
golden handshake Harvard alumni in jail?


enforce it? HAHAHAHAAH there's nothing to enforce! the right has made
bank robbery legal

wf3h[_2_] June 13th 11 10:17 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:51:14 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Oh they are in Pakistan.

I doubt he is honest or smart enough to understand the question. He will
just call you a racist.


dont know much about afghan/pakistan relations

and i notice neither of you told us where the WMD's were


We are waiting for Hillary to tell us...


gee. never saw anyone confuse hillary with powell

that's a first

wf3h[_2_] June 13th 11 10:18 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:58:53 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/06/2011 10:51 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

Where are the terrorists in Afghanistan?

Oh they are in Pakistan.

I doubt he is honest or smart enough to understand the question. He will
just call you a racist.

dont know much about afghan/pakistan relations

and i notice neither of you told us where the WMD's were


We are waiting for Hillary to tell us...


15 of the 9/11 were Saudi, and Hillary has close Saudi raised advisor
and connections. Including the wife of the democrat that likes to email
his cock around.

It is so Hillaryious.


gee. this has zip to do with iraq

notice how desperately the right fights any responsibility of bush in
the trillion dollar disaster of iraq?

wf3h[_2_] June 13th 11 10:20 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:56:38 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/06/2011 10:28 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:42:17 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

dont know much about afghan/pakistan relations

and i notice neither of you told us where the WMD's were


Hey anti-white Islamic puppet ... Iran/Iraq war used WMDs, proof of
existance was right there....


really?

then where are they?

oh. they arent


And he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_an...ss_destruction

So stuff you pro Islam/Omama is your Mama crap.


really? did you read your reference? here. let me help you. from YOUR
OWN REFERENCE:

On October 6, 2004, the head of the Iraq Survey Group (ISG), Charles
Duelfer, announced to the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee that
the group found no evidence that Iraq under Saddam Hussein had
produced and stockpiled any weapons of mass destruction since 1991,
when UN sanctions were imposed.[92]


so you're admitting bush lied??

thanks. i already knew that

wf3h[_2_] June 13th 11 10:20 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:50:47 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:36:26 -0400, wrote:


again i ask

where are the WMD's??

Where are the terrorists in Afghanistan?

Oh they are in Pakistan.

where is the pakistan/afghan border?

oh. it's pretty much undefined

IOW you dont know history


"Pretty much"? Yeah, bull****...



as fine a response as the right is capable of.

wf3h[_2_] June 13th 11 10:21 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:35:24 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:27:37 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:36:26 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:27:49 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:27:21 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

You have proven nothing... Everyone knows the UN gave Iraq 6 full months
to clean up the mess.... Still, all you have is speculation by such
brainiacs as Arianna Huffington, and Jon Stewart, Michael Moore and
Ronald McDonald... snerk

again i ask

where are the WMD's??

Where are the terrorists in Afghanistan?

Oh they are in Pakistan.

where is the pakistan/afghan border?

oh. it's pretty much undefined

IOW you dont know history


Abbottabad is 120 miles from Afghanistan and far from the mountains

IOW you don't know much about geography.


H:AHAHAHAHA

here's a guy who doesnt know about FATA's...or how porous the border
is lecturing me on geography!!

he seems to think the taliban has passports and border control agents
and would NEVER slip across the border! perish the thought!

wf3h[_2_] June 13th 11 10:22 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:54:17 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 7:36 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:27:49 -0400, wrote:

QED

You have proven nothing... Everyone knows the UN gave Iraq 6 full months
to clean up the mess.... Still, all you have is speculation by such
brainiacs as Arianna Huffington, and Jon Stewart, Michael Moore and
Ronald McDonald...snerk

again i ask

where are the WMD's??


Where are the terrorists in Afghanistan?

Oh they are in Pakistan.


And what do Canadian and US politicians do? Subsidize and send food to
a nuclear low debt nation Pakistan. One way or another, a break down in
US government intelligence.


it's called a protection racket



wf3h[_2_] June 13th 11 10:23 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:52:24 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:39:11 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...


you claim he increased spending by 400%

proof? none

you claimed he increased the deficit by an unprecedented amount

then admitted bush's last budget had about the same deficit

Let's see. Obama spent as much in two years, as Bush did in eight.
Pretty simple math dude, four hundred percent! Easy.


well let's see. are you a lying sack of ****?

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/

yep. federal spending in obama's 1st budget was 3.5T

bush's last budget?

3.3T

guess to the right wing, 3.5 is 8x3.3!!


Sorry is you can't do simple math...\\


tell you what

you find an elementary school teacher

tell them 8X3.3 is3.5


let us know what they say


OK, I obviously meant if you extrude Obamas spending out for the next 6
years... But of course you needed a deflection so you pretend you don't
get it.


oh. you give no specifics

hand waving. alot of crap about the black guy in the white house

then claim it's 'obvious'.

gee. why am i not convinced?

wf3h[_2_] June 13th 11 10:25 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:24:16 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/06/2011 10:31 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:39:11 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:


3.3T

guess to the right wing, 3.5 is 8x3.3!!


Sorry is you can't do simple math...\\


tell you what

you find an elementary school teacher

tell them 8X3.3 is3.5


let us know what they say


Bush 1) never spent his last budget


why? did martians do it? because, unless he did it, then vulcans or
klingons did


nd 2) it was made with Obama/Democrats.


HAHAHAHA, no it wasnt. BUSH and the GOP cut taxes, NOT the dems


Get over it fleabagger. You president is one very corrupt dude.


get over it right winger. right wing economics leads to collapse and
bankruptcy

I_am_Tosk June 13th 11 10:30 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:58:53 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/06/2011 10:51 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

Where are the terrorists in Afghanistan?

Oh they are in Pakistan.

I doubt he is honest or smart enough to understand the question. He will
just call you a racist.

dont know much about afghan/pakistan relations

and i notice neither of you told us where the WMD's were

We are waiting for Hillary to tell us...


15 of the 9/11 were Saudi, and Hillary has close Saudi raised advisor
and connections. Including the wife of the democrat that likes to email
his cock around.

It is so Hillaryious.


gee. this has zip to do with iraq

notice how desperately the right fights any responsibility of bush in
the trillion dollar disaster of iraq?


Yeah, yeah, yeah... Isn't that why you elected the dumb ****? It's his
war now, he promised to end it and lied, now it's on him...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

I_am_Tosk June 13th 11 10:31 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:50:47 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:36:26 -0400,
wrote:


again i ask

where are the WMD's??

Where are the terrorists in Afghanistan?

Oh they are in Pakistan.

where is the pakistan/afghan border?

oh. it's pretty much undefined

IOW you dont know history


"Pretty much"? Yeah, bull****...



as fine a response as the right is capable of.


Just like your bull**** about "undefined"...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

wf3h[_2_] June 14th 11 12:55 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:49:00 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:16:43 -0400, wf3h wrote:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E...0%93Bliley_Act

Yep, the law Obama will not enforce as it might toss in too many fellow
golden handshake Harvard alumni in jail?

Bob is probably really talking about the CFMA but I am not sure he
really understands the difference.


says the guy who thinks deregulation of the banks turned out just fine

because the right said it did


Bob you certainly have not read what I have written about this and you
conveniently forget who signed the THREE bills that deregulated the
banks and Wall Street,


i agree clinton SIGNED them

he did not AUTHOR them. and to suppose that he would veto a 1300 page
bill and shut down the govt at the insistence of the far right which
REQUIRED that the banks be deregulated is ridiculous.


That is simply a fact. You can look on Thomas for the congressional
record links or you can just look at wikipedia if you like Plume level
research.


fine. you go ahead and find the history book that tells us

phil gramm was president

wf3h[_2_] June 14th 11 12:56 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:30:29 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:58:53 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

It is so Hillaryious.


gee. this has zip to do with iraq

notice how desperately the right fights any responsibility of bush in
the trillion dollar disaster of iraq?


Yeah, yeah, yeah... Isn't that why you elected the dumb ****? It's his
war now, he promised to end it and lied, now it's on him...


never voted for bush. sorry.

wf3h[_2_] June 14th 11 12:56 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:31:29 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:50:47 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:36:26 -0400, wrote:


again i ask

where are the WMD's??

Where are the terrorists in Afghanistan?

Oh they are in Pakistan.

where is the pakistan/afghan border?

oh. it's pretty much undefined

IOW you dont know history

"Pretty much"? Yeah, bull****...



as fine a response as the right is capable of.


Just like your bull**** about "undefined"...


tell you what.

you go look up FATA and c'mon back, OK?

wf3h[_2_] June 14th 11 10:51 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:41:44 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:56:18 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:30:29 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:58:53 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

It is so Hillaryious.

gee. this has zip to do with iraq

notice how desperately the right fights any responsibility of bush in
the trillion dollar disaster of iraq?

Yeah, yeah, yeah... Isn't that why you elected the dumb ****? It's his
war now, he promised to end it and lied, now it's on him...


never voted for bush. sorry.


I am sure you voted for the 5th Bush brother.


as well as the 12th imam in your imagination


[email protected] June 14th 11 06:06 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:56:39 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 05:51:46 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:41:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:56:18 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:30:29 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:58:53 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

It is so Hillaryious.

gee. this has zip to do with iraq

notice how desperately the right fights any responsibility of bush in
the trillion dollar disaster of iraq?

Yeah, yeah, yeah... Isn't that why you elected the dumb ****? It's his
war now, he promised to end it and lied, now it's on him...

never voted for bush. sorry.

I am sure you voted for the 5th Bush brother.


as well as the 12th imam in your imagination



Nope, just the Bush reference. Obama is following the Bush roadmap in
the wars, the bailouts and he still has most of the same fiscal team
doing the same basic plan for the recovery. Basically they have just
thrown money at the top guys in that Wall Street/Bankster cabal and
waited for it to trickle down.
How is that working for you?


That's not completely accurate, as you know. And, it's working out
better than the neglect that took place leading to Bush/Paulson
initiating TARP.

Canuck57[_9_] June 14th 11 10:45 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On 13/06/2011 3:16 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:46:17 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 6:17 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:54:49 -0600,
wrote:



Yep, Clinton shouldn't have signed that liberal bank debt policy. A
seed that grew to a depression. Fleabagger economics.

liberal??

it was written by PHIL GRAMM

only a moron who knows zip about america would call gramm a 'liberal'

ROFLMAO


Funny, are you talking of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E...0%93Bliley_Act

Yep, the law Obama will not enforce as it might toss in too many fellow
golden handshake Harvard alumni in jail?


enforce it? HAHAHAHAAH there's nothing to enforce! the right has made
bank robbery legal


Funny, is Obama a rightie? I really doubt that, just a jive talking
fleabagger, all mouth and no results.

--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] June 14th 11 10:52 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On 14/06/2011 11:06 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:56:39 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 05:51:46 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:41:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:56:18 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:30:29 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:58:53 -0600,
wrote:

It is so Hillaryious.

gee. this has zip to do with iraq

notice how desperately the right fights any responsibility of bush in
the trillion dollar disaster of iraq?

Yeah, yeah, yeah... Isn't that why you elected the dumb ****? It's his
war now, he promised to end it and lied, now it's on him...

never voted for bush. sorry.

I am sure you voted for the 5th Bush brother.

as well as the 12th imam in your imagination



Nope, just the Bush reference. Obama is following the Bush roadmap in
the wars, the bailouts and he still has most of the same fiscal team
doing the same basic plan for the recovery. Basically they have just
thrown money at the top guys in that Wall Street/Bankster cabal and
waited for it to trickle down.
How is that working for you?


That's not completely accurate, as you know. And, it's working out
better than the neglect that took place leading to Bush/Paulson
initiating TARP.


Does not mater if it is Democrats pushing Bush or Obamanomics
corruption, more government is more problems.

So stop the insanity and vote for less government. Doing the same old
debt-corruption spend Obamanomics isn't working. Or in at least not for
99% of the people.

Hey, voting Obama was a mistake, but show your smart and dump him in 2012.
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] June 14th 11 10:53 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On 13/06/2011 3:22 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:54:17 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 7:36 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:27:49 -0400, wrote:

QED

You have proven nothing... Everyone knows the UN gave Iraq 6 full months
to clean up the mess.... Still, all you have is speculation by such
brainiacs as Arianna Huffington, and Jon Stewart, Michael Moore and
Ronald McDonald...snerk

again i ask

where are the WMD's??

Where are the terrorists in Afghanistan?

Oh they are in Pakistan.


And what do Canadian and US politicians do? Subsidize and send food to
a nuclear low debt nation Pakistan. One way or another, a break down in
US government intelligence.


it's called a protection racket


Yep, and fleabaggers voted for it.

--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

wf3h[_2_] June 14th 11 11:38 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:45:28 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 13/06/2011 3:16 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:46:17 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 6:17 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:54:49 -0600,
wrote:



Yep, Clinton shouldn't have signed that liberal bank debt policy. A
seed that grew to a depression. Fleabagger economics.

liberal??

it was written by PHIL GRAMM

only a moron who knows zip about america would call gramm a 'liberal'

ROFLMAO

Funny, are you talking of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E...0%93Bliley_Act

Yep, the law Obama will not enforce as it might toss in too many fellow
golden handshake Harvard alumni in jail?


enforce it? HAHAHAHAAH there's nothing to enforce! the right has made
bank robbery legal


Funny, is Obama a rightie? I really doubt that, just a jive talking
fleabagger, all mouth and no results.


let's see...who's opposing the CFPB?

the GOP

who let CSE's exist and bankrupt the US?

the GOP

who is fighting regulation of wall street?

the GOP

apparently this idiot thinks obama's a republican!

wf3h[_2_] June 14th 11 11:40 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:56:39 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 05:51:46 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:41:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:56:18 -0400, wf3h wrote:


notice how desperately the right fights any responsibility of bush in
the trillion dollar disaster of iraq?

Yeah, yeah, yeah... Isn't that why you elected the dumb ****? It's his
war now, he promised to end it and lied, now it's on him...

never voted for bush. sorry.

I am sure you voted for the 5th Bush brother.


as well as the 12th imam in your imagination



Nope, just the Bush reference. Obama is following the Bush roadmap in
the wars

?
reallly? bush drew down iraq to 50k? withdrew troops from afghanistan?

were these the famous invisible troops?


, the bailouts and he still has most of the same fiscal team
doing the same basic plan for the recovery. Basically they have just
thrown money at the top guys in that Wall Street/Bankster cabal and
waited for it to trickle down.
How is that working for you?


the bailouts. for anyone who ever took economics, were necessary
because of the too big to fail problem. the right structured the
economy so that there is socialism for the rich and capitalism for the
middle class

the right ignores this, though. there's even a name for it: moral
hazard theory. but the right ignores THAT.



wf3h[_2_] June 14th 11 11:42 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:52:38 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


Does not mater if it is Democrats pushing Bush or Obamanomics
corruption, more government is more problems.

So stop the insanity and vote for less government.


we did have less govt. that's where CSE's come in.

how'd that work out or the economy?


Hey, voting Obama was a mistake, but show your smart and dump him in 2012.


yeah let's go with bachman

let's turn the entire US into a slave state for america's corporations

wf3h[_2_] June 14th 11 11:42 PM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:53:56 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 13/06/2011 3:22 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:54:17 -0600,
wrote:

On 11/06/2011 7:36 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:27:49 -0400, wrote:

QED

Where are the terrorists in Afghanistan?

Oh they are in Pakistan.

And what do Canadian and US politicians do? Subsidize and send food to
a nuclear low debt nation Pakistan. One way or another, a break down in
US government intelligence.


it's called a protection racket


Yep, and fleabaggers voted for it.


really? they voted for bush?

who knew!!

wf3h[_2_] June 15th 11 01:59 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:46:48 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:40:32 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:56:39 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 05:51:46 -0400, wf3h wrote:

I am sure you voted for the 5th Bush brother.

as well as the 12th imam in your imagination


Nope, just the Bush reference. Obama is following the Bush roadmap in
the wars

?
reallly? bush drew down iraq to 50k? withdrew troops from afghanistan?

were these the famous invisible troops?


The current plan was the Bush plan.
The dates just slipped a bit since Obama took office


now let's see.

the current eonomic situation was bush's

but it's obama's fault

the current drawdown in iraq is being done by obama

but bush gets the credit

gee. why is anyone surprised when the racism of the right is exposed?


the bailouts. for anyone who ever took economics, were necessary
because of the too big to fail problem. the right structured the
economy so that there is socialism for the rich and capitalism for the
middle class


I don't understand why you think giving over a trillion dollars to the
same people who caused the crash with no strings attached was the
right thing to do. I suppose it is because Obama told you so.


HAHAHAH you ever hear of the 29 depression? ever take a course in
economics?

the problem with the right is they want this to CONTINUE. you're kinda
stupiid and dont know much history so fall right into their trap

Colonel Kurtz June 15th 11 02:34 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 

On 12-Jun-2011, wrote:

Reagan, droped a trillion in debt, didn't increase government spending
but much and had recession results in 10 months.

Fact is, while fleabaggers in delusional think it is possible, you can
never debt-spend your way to economic property. No one has ever seen it
work, and US today is no exception. Just more debt.

Or the possibility, in secret Obama wants to ruin the USA with debt.
Part of Obama's hidden agenda.


I find it highly entertaining when two morons agree... dumb and


You're referring to the current and 2 previous presidents and vice
presidents, right?

What the majority of the legitimate U.S. population (perhaps 50 million)
hardly notice and the vast majority have no clue about is that the factors
that define a country no longer exist in the United States - it has failed,
and will collapse within 5 to 7 years. There is no common purpose, culture,
language, economic focus, nothing to define what constitutes the former
United States except nostalgic maps.

In addition to of that, the core economic base is GONE. There is no
"recession;" what has occurred over the past 15 years is a transition to a
secondary colony providing raw materials to productive countries (Japan,
Korea, China, India) and providing a marketplace for shoddy goods sold at US
prices. That has created the greatly diminished wages, unemployment, and
lower standards of living.

The final nail in the coffin is a corrupt government, hell-bent on ****ing
unimaginable amounts of money into boondoggles to expand the size of their
empire at the expense of the peasants........i.e., you.

Putting it simple to the Toyota and Kia drivers loading their cars with red
Chinese junk - you're screwed. Middle class jobs are devastated and will
not return - your habits are sinking the tiny ship that remains; US core
industries will not return for generations (until your wages and living
standards are equal to that of China and India); the US treasury cannot make
adjustments to reverse the financial meltdown - your money is worth less
which is why prices are higher for commodities. Functional countries that
ship oil, machinery etc. to you demand more bogus dollars than before.
Priorities of "Americans" now are their play phones, moronic TV shows, $8.00
a gallon bottled water and free "health care" (no such thing, they mean
medical services but that's all part of the delusion) Bogus securities are
wagers on paper - that sort of scam has been called "investment" for 30
years.

To relate that to the subject of the thread: The US cannot participate in an
actual war - money would be needed from other countries, and other countries
are not that stupid. The meals-on-wheels actions in Iraq and Afghanistan and
Obama's 2 new military ventures are all accelerating the eminent collapse -
the ROE is lame. WWIII certainly might, and most likely, will occur - the US
will be a bystander after the first few weeks. Grow food, and stay away
from my land.

I_am_Tosk June 15th 11 03:00 AM

Is Obama starting WW III?
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:40:32 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:56:39 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 05:51:46 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:41:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:56:18 -0400, wf3h wrote:


notice how desperately the right fights any responsibility of bush in
the trillion dollar disaster of iraq?

Yeah, yeah, yeah... Isn't that why you elected the dumb ****? It's his
war now, he promised to end it and lied, now it's on him...

never voted for bush. sorry.

I am sure you voted for the 5th Bush brother.

as well as the 12th imam in your imagination


Nope, just the Bush reference. Obama is following the Bush roadmap in
the wars

?
reallly? bush drew down iraq to 50k? withdrew troops from afghanistan?

were these the famous invisible troops?


The current plan was the Bush plan.
The dates just slipped a bit since Obama took office


, the bailouts and he still has most of the same fiscal team
doing the same basic plan for the recovery. Basically they have just
thrown money at the top guys in that Wall Street/Bankster cabal and
waited for it to trickle down.
How is that working for you?


the bailouts. for anyone who ever took economics, were necessary
because of the too big to fail problem. the right structured the
economy so that there is socialism for the rich and capitalism for the
middle class


I don't understand why you think giving over a trillion dollars to the
same people who caused the crash with no strings attached was the
right thing to do. I suppose it is because Obama told you so.
It is interesting that he changed everything he believed in 2007, as
soon as the big money bribes got to him.
That was when he became the 5th Bush brother.


Bought and paid for...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!


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