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LilAbner[_3_] May 25th 11 04:47 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.



http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...n-all-new.html


JustWaitAFrekinMinute! May 25th 11 05:30 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On May 24, 11:47*pm, LilAbner wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...ck-box-on-all-...


Eventually that black box will be connected directly to the IRS for
monitoring and taxation...

[email protected] May 25th 11 05:36 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:30:27 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

On May 24, 11:47*pm, LilAbner wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...ck-box-on-all-...


Eventually that black box will be connected directly to the IRS for
monitoring and taxation...


Don't worry. They know all about you already. They're watching right
now. Go hide under your blankey. We'll tell you when it's safe to come
out.

[email protected] May 25th 11 05:37 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On Tue, 24 May 2011 23:47:44 -0400, LilAbner wrote:

Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.



http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...n-all-new.html


Feel free to remove the mandatory seatbelts from your car...

Tim May 25th 11 05:48 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On May 24, 10:47*pm, LilAbner wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...ck-box-on-all-...


I won't have to worry about it. Presently I'm driving a 1990 Mercury
Wagon and a 1995 Lincoln Town Car , and I'll probably by a 2011 model
car in what 2030?

LilAbner[_3_] May 25th 11 06:49 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On 5/25/2011 12:48 AM, Tim wrote:
On May 24, 10:47 pm, wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...ck-box-on-all-...


I won't have to worry about it. Presently I'm driving a 1990 Mercury
Wagon and a 1995 Lincoln Town Car , and I'll probably by a 2011 model
car in what 2030?

You let them take the ower to do these things they will do them. Not at
first, such as has been the case of boiling the frog slow, so far.
Itt has already been proposed that when stopped a cable be plugged into
the recorder and speeding tickets, run red lights, crossing double
lines, spinning tires, flipping off the cop, number of time, seat belts
unfastened, plus road use tax for distance travelled be assessed at that
point. Plus liked with a gps, either internal or on the dash, will quote
where the offenses took place. They simply link the black box to a
signal cable to the Trooper's car or even broadcast it to RedFlex or
other compnay to send you summonmes and bills and of course report your
travels and stops to Big Brothers data base.
Sound paranoid. Like I say if you give them the ability they will use it.

John H[_2_] May 25th 11 11:50 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:48:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On May 24, 10:47*pm, LilAbner wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...ck-box-on-all-...


I won't have to worry about it. Presently I'm driving a 1990 Mercury
Wagon and a 1995 Lincoln Town Car , and I'll probably by a 2011 model
car in what 2030?


I figure my Moto Guzzi and the pickup will last until I die. But, in order for socialism to be all
it can be, the government has to be able to track its people.

True North[_3_] May 25th 11 12:36 PM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 


"Tim" wrote in message
...

On May 24, 10:47 pm, LilAbner wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...ck-box-on-all-...


I won't have to worry about it. Presently I'm driving a 1990 Mercury
Wagon and a 1995 Lincoln Town Car , and I'll probably by a 2011 model
car in what 2030?





My brother-in-law picked up an '87 Jaguar sedan last fall. He's having it
restored as we speak.
He's already gone out & bought a driving cap and driving gloves but will
need a new Harris Tweed sports jacket to complete the look.
I was trying to talk him into joining the local chapter of the British
Automobile Touring Assoc.


Harryk May 25th 11 12:36 PM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On 5/25/11 6:50 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:48:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 24, 10:47 pm, wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...ck-box-on-all-...


I won't have to worry about it. Presently I'm driving a 1990 Mercury
Wagon and a 1995 Lincoln Town Car , and I'll probably by a 2011 model
car in what 2030?


I figure my Moto Guzzi and the pickup will last until I die. But, in order for socialism to be all
it can be, the government has to be able to track its people.


When you start taking seriously the crackpot crap on loonytarian sites,
are you as cracked as the pots there?

The device under discussion is not for surveillance if by that one means
"watching" a driver or where he or she goes. It is for recording info
about speed, brake application, et cetera, and might be helpful in
turning up car defects in case of an accident.

HenryK[_2_] May 25th 11 01:04 PM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On 5/25/2011 7:36 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 5/25/11 6:50 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:48:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 24, 10:47 pm, wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...ck-box-on-all-...


I won't have to worry about it. Presently I'm driving a 1990 Mercury
Wagon and a 1995 Lincoln Town Car , and I'll probably by a 2011 model
car in what 2030?


I figure my Moto Guzzi and the pickup will last until I die. But, in
order for socialism to be all
it can be, the government has to be able to track its people.


When you start taking seriously the crackpot crap on loonytarian sites,
are you as cracked as the pots there?

The device under discussion is not for surveillance if by that one means
"watching" a driver or where he or she goes. It is for recording info
about speed, brake application, et cetera, and might be helpful in
turning up car defects in case of an accident.


You are simply too simple minded to grasp the negative implications of
the use of the "black box" On board computers are already capable of
doing what you allude to. So ask yourself why another
monitoring/recording device? Start thinking out of the box for a change.

[email protected] May 25th 11 08:39 PM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On Wed, 25 May 2011 07:36:22 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

On 5/25/11 6:50 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:48:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 24, 10:47 pm, wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...ck-box-on-all-...

I won't have to worry about it. Presently I'm driving a 1990 Mercury
Wagon and a 1995 Lincoln Town Car , and I'll probably by a 2011 model
car in what 2030?


I figure my Moto Guzzi and the pickup will last until I die. But, in order for socialism to be all
it can be, the government has to be able to track its people.


When you start taking seriously the crackpot crap on loonytarian sites,
are you as cracked as the pots there?

The device under discussion is not for surveillance if by that one means
"watching" a driver or where he or she goes. It is for recording info
about speed, brake application, et cetera, and might be helpful in
turning up car defects in case of an accident.


That doesn't figure into his paranoid, anti-Obama, anti-sanity
reality.

I_am_Tosk May 26th 11 12:04 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:30:27 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

On May 24, 11:47*pm, LilAbner wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...ck-box-on-all-...

Eventually that black box will be connected directly to the IRS for
monitoring and taxation...


That very idea was considered in NC. The thought was to drop the fuel
tax and bill people per mile driven....


Although the left won't allow it to be spoken of on the main stream
news.. It is already being done on a trial basis in Oregon in some
areas.

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Canuck57[_9_] May 26th 11 12:58 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On 24/05/2011 9:47 PM, LilAbner wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...n-all-new.html


Hazards of Liberalism and the fleabagger lefties. Note that the
government emphasis is all about information on how to fine you, manage
you like sheep, of zero benefit to you.

Now if it had a 360 CCD camera recorder, so if clipped by a police car,
or witness some event, or perhaps cat the local drug addict son of a
politician vandalizing your car....

And think, it probably even has wireless access.
--
Fleabaggers are like slinkies. Basically useless and but some people
love seeing them fall down stairs.

Canuck57[_9_] May 26th 11 01:01 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On 24/05/2011 10:30 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On May 24, 11:47 pm, wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...ck-box-on-all-...


Eventually that black box will be connected directly to the IRS for
monitoring and taxation...


Several govrnemtns have some detailed thought going into electric
vehicle use. Taxing gasoline near 50% here, if you applied 50% to
everyones home electric, we might band together and protest.

As well as people using alternate sources such as solar cells to charge up.

Greedy government is working hard on it. Imagine Gore's electric bill
if they taxed is 100%!!!

--
Fleabaggers are like slinkies. Basically useless and but some people
love seeing them fall down stairs.

Canuck57[_9_] May 26th 11 01:03 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On 24/05/2011 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On May 24, 10:47 pm, wrote:
Who gave NHTSA or anyone else permission to conduct surveillance on us,
American Citizens?
I must have missed that vote to rescind our Constitution.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/...ck-box-on-all-...


I won't have to worry about it. Presently I'm driving a 1990 Mercury
Wagon and a 1995 Lincoln Town Car , and I'll probably by a 2011 model
car in what 2030?


I would worry about it. What happens when thy tell you that you no
longer can use or drive those cars? Or charge you $1000 for an annual
license?

Government is gearing up some nasty consumption taxes.

--
Fleabaggers are like slinkies. Basically useless and but some people
love seeing them fall down stairs.

thumper May 27th 11 06:26 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
On 5/25/2011 4:04 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
Although the left won't allow it to be spoken of on the main stream
news.. It is already being done on a trial basis in Oregon in some
areas.


You are way too gullible.

I_am_Tosk May 27th 11 06:46 AM

Feds to Mandate Black Box on all New Cars
 
In article , lid says...

On 5/25/2011 4:04 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
Although the left won't allow it to be spoken of on the main stream
news.. It is already being done on a trial basis in Oregon in some
areas.


You are way too gullible.


What are you saying.. You can't read.. Do a google, there are cars now
that are being monitored for tax purposes. Times of day traveled, and
routs will be used to determine levels of taxes. It is happening now, no
argument, no "lobsta boats"...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!


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