On Sun, 15 May 2011 01:37:08 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 23:56:39 -0400, wf3h wrote:

Yet the democratic senate came up with a fin reg bill that left most
of the abuses like too big to fail in place. Maybe it was because they
took more money from Wall Street than the republicans did.

actually the dems didnt. in the last election, 80% of wall street
money went to the GOP


BTW 2008 was even more of a slam dunk for the democrats. I suppose
that is why the bailout went the way it did

http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpictur...Rep&Cycle=2008


guess you dont know we had an election in 2010. see my words up there?
the 'last election'??

unlike you, i go with evidence. the FACT is the dems benefitted from
wall street money UNTIL they started talking reform. THEN the money
started to flow to the GOP

me? i go with EVIDENCE

you? you're right wing. you go with MYTH

On Sun, 15 May 2011 10:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 06:48:25 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 01:37:08 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 23:56:39 -0400, wf3h wrote:


unlike you, i go with evidence. the FACT is the dems benefitted from
wall street money UNTIL they started talking reform. THEN the money
started to flow to the GOP

me? i go with EVIDENCE

I gave you the numbers for 2101 and your assertion that the GOP got
80% was bull****. It was about even.


well you're right wing so dont know the facts...as usual

http://www.cnbc.com/id/38658570/Wall...nations_to_GOP

CRP found that in March of 2009, people and political action committees associated with the securities and investment industry sent 70 percent of their federal-level contributions
to Democratic candidates, party committees and leadership PACs. But by June of 2010, that dynamic had flipped
. CRP reported their research shows that Republicans received 68 percent of all federal-level contributions from Wall Street.

right wingers generally dont know math. but when the donations go from
SEVENTY PERCENT TO THE DEMS

to

SEVENTY PERCENT TO THE GOP

that's a shift.

gee...you're wrong

as usual

On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:33:51 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:09:34 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 10:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 06:48:25 -0400, wf3h wrote:

I gave you the numbers for 2101 and your assertion that the GOP got
80% was bull****. It was about even.



SEVENTY PERCENT TO THE GOP

that's a shift.

gee...you're wrong

as usual

It wasn't "80%" was it?
It wasn't even 70%, it was 68

but don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

HAHAHAH

FIRST you said MOST money went to the DEMS

THEN you backpedaled and said it was about EVEN

and NOW you're all upset over 70 vs 80??

ROFLMAO!!!


They switched their money from the dems because the dems were solidly
in the bag for them It was the gop fighting the bailouts.

the gop fighting the bailouts???

HENRY PAULSON AUTHORED THEM!!

paulson was BUSH'S TREASURY SECRETARY

and the bailouts were NECESSARY because the RIGHT ensured that we
SOCIALIZED the RISK while PRIVATIZING reward in order to keep this
bull**** MYTH of the 'american dream' alive

you simply can't understand it, can you? it blows your head off your
shoulders to think YOU have screwed america


I hear you lefties bitching about money going to the top and CEO pay
and bonuses but the financial industry has most of the millionaires
and they made huge bonuses on the federal bailout money we gave them.
Right now it is the right fighting the bailouts.

lefties??

i believe in CAPITALISM. a WELL REGULATED FREE MARKET

YOU RIGHT WINGERS believe in PLUTOCRACY

and YES they made BILLIONS. because when OBAMA said this was IMMORAL
the RIGHT said it was SOCIALISM to even TALK about CEO salaries JUST
like the RIGHT was OFFENDED when obama slammed BP. the RIGHT DEFENDED
OIL COMPANIES.


As for Obama, he is far more vulnerable from the left than he is from
the right.That is why the right has to come

WRONG. there is NO LEFT in america.

up with such stupid stuff
to oppose him like the birther bull****.
A guy like Bernie Sanders could seriously hurt him in a primary if he
tried. The dems are just happy to keep their name on the white house,
even if the guy there is a big business republican in democrat
clothing.

HAHAHAHA bernie sanders...you should have been a stand up comic!

you right wingers turned this country over to wall street THEN got
offended when they BANKRUPTED THE COUNTRY

On 15/05/2011 9:55 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:33:51 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:09:34 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 10:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 06:48:25 -0400, wrote:

I gave you the numbers for 2101 and your assertion that the GOP got
80% was bull****. It was about even.



SEVENTY PERCENT TO THE GOP

that's a shift.

gee...you're wrong

as usual

It wasn't "80%" was it?
It wasn't even 70%, it was 68

but don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

HAHAHAH

FIRST you said MOST money went to the DEMS

THEN you backpedaled and said it was about EVEN

and NOW you're all upset over 70 vs 80??

ROFLMAO!!!


They switched their money from the dems because the dems were solidly
in the bag for them It was the gop fighting the bailouts.

the gop fighting the bailouts???

HENRY PAULSON AUTHORED THEM!!

paulson was BUSH'S TREASURY SECRETARY

and the bailouts were NECESSARY because the RIGHT ensured that we
SOCIALIZED the RISK while PRIVATIZING reward in order to keep this
bull**** MYTH of the 'american dream' alive

you simply can't understand it, can you? it blows your head off your
shoulders to think YOU have screwed america


I hear you lefties bitching about money going to the top and CEO pay
and bonuses but the financial industry has most of the millionaires
and they made huge bonuses on the federal bailout money we gave them.
Right now it is the right fighting the bailouts.

lefties??

i believe in CAPITALISM. a WELL REGULATED FREE MARKET

YOU RIGHT WINGERS believe in PLUTOCRACY

and YES they made BILLIONS. because when OBAMA said this was IMMORAL
the RIGHT said it was SOCIALISM to even TALK about CEO salaries JUST
like the RIGHT was OFFENDED when obama slammed BP. the RIGHT DEFENDED
OIL COMPANIES.


As for Obama, he is far more vulnerable from the left than he is from
the right.That is why the right has to come

WRONG. there is NO LEFT in america.

up with such stupid stuff
to oppose him like the birther bull****.
A guy like Bernie Sanders could seriously hurt him in a primary if he
tried. The dems are just happy to keep their name on the white house,
even if the guy there is a big business republican in democrat
clothing.

HAHAHAHA bernie sanders...you should have been a stand up comic!

you right wingers turned this country over to wall street THEN got
offended when they BANKRUPTED THE COUNTRY

In a weak half assed way yes. But will admit, it was a BS spinless
effort. When I heard they were arguaing about just $60 billion on a
$1.6 trillion deficit, I just laughed at the stupidity.

Bottom line, DC is corrupted. Unless a stong set of leaders come in, I
don't see anything but the sewer for USA economics. Like Pearl Haror,
everyone is in denial and/or asleep at the wheel. Looks like the
leasons of reality have to strike before the dumb****s learn their
lesson. Simple lesson too, no prosperity in debt.

--
Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we
allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance?

On Sun, 15 May 2011 22:52:27 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 15/05/2011 9:55 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:33:51 -0400, wrote:


you right wingers turned this country over to wall street THEN got
offended when they BANKRUPTED THE COUNTRY

In a weak half assed way yes. But will admit, it was a BS spinless
effort. When I heard they were arguaing about just $60 billion on a
$1.6 trillion deficit, I just laughed at the stupidity.

yep. the right wing bankrupted us, talked the big talk and now cant
even find pocket change. let 'em go after the seniors. they're the
idiots who voted for this congress


Bottom line, DC is corrupted. Unless a stong set of leaders come in, I
don't see anything but the sewer for USA economics. Like Pearl Haror,
everyone is in denial and/or asleep at the wheel. Looks like the
leasons of reality have to strike before the dumb****s learn their
lesson. Simple lesson too, no prosperity in debt.

and the folks most in denial?

the american right wing

filled with supply side mythology, the 'american dream' crap and
christian fanaticism, they'll doom this country

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 15 May 2011 22:52:27 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 15/05/2011 9:55 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:33:51 -0400, wrote:


you right wingers turned this country over to wall street THEN got
offended when they BANKRUPTED THE COUNTRY

Just because you keep saying it, doesn't make it true. Pelosi and Reid
spent their time investigating folks they couldn't beat in the polls and
writing checks to Wall ST... The GOP had no say. Remember, the Obama
Administration has completely shut out the GOP in each and every
discussion they have had this year. But of course the Union leaders, GE,
and George Soros had open access, 24/7.. But you can't even admit that
because you are not honest enough. I sure hope you are not involved in
the security of this country, cause you are a bitter old racist...



In a weak half assed way yes. But will admit, it was a BS spinless
effort. When I heard they were arguaing about just $60 billion on a
$1.6 trillion deficit, I just laughed at the stupidity.

yep. the right wing bankrupted us, talked the big talk and now cant
even find pocket change. let 'em go after the seniors. they're the
idiots who voted for this congress


Bottom line, DC is corrupted. Unless a stong set of leaders come in, I
don't see anything but the sewer for USA economics. Like Pearl Haror,
everyone is in denial and/or asleep at the wheel. Looks like the
leasons of reality have to strike before the dumb****s learn their
lesson. Simple lesson too, no prosperity in debt.

and the folks most in denial?

the american right wing

filled with supply side mythology, the 'american dream' crap and
christian fanaticism, they'll doom this country



--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:55:08 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:33:51 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:09:34 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 10:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 06:48:25 -0400, wrote:

I gave you the numbers for 2101 and your assertion that the GOP got
80% was bull****. It was about even.


SEVENTY PERCENT TO THE GOP

that's a shift.

gee...you're wrong

as usual
It wasn't "80%" was it?
It wasn't even 70%, it was 68

but don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.
HAHAHAH

FIRST you said MOST money went to the DEMS

THEN you backpedaled and said it was about EVEN

and NOW you're all upset over 70 vs 80??

ROFLMAO!!!

No I am talking about 68 vs 80

They switched their money from the dems because the dems were solidly
in the bag for them It was the gop fighting the bailouts.
the gop fighting the bailouts???

HENRY PAULSON AUTHORED THEM!!

paulson was BUSH'S TREASURY SECRETARY

and the bailouts were NECESSARY because the RIGHT ensured that we
SOCIALIZED the RISK while PRIVATIZING reward in order to keep this
bull**** MYTH of the 'american dream' alive

you simply can't understand it, can you? it blows your head off your
shoulders to think YOU have screwed america

The bailouts were opposed by most on the right, in spite of Bush
proposing them. It is also interesting that Goldman (Paulsons old
company) gave 75% of their money to the democrats in 2008.
That may have shaded the decision of who to throw over the side.
Lehman probably should have upped their bribe. $1.3 million won't
attract much attention these days (what they gave Democrats in 08)

I hear you lefties bitching about money going to the top and CEO pay
and bonuses but the financial industry has most of the millionaires
and they made huge bonuses on the federal bailout money we gave them.
Right now it is the right fighting the bailouts.
lefties??

i believe in CAPITALISM. a WELL REGULATED FREE MARKET

YOU RIGHT WINGERS believe in PLUTOCRACY

and YES they made BILLIONS. because when OBAMA said this was IMMORAL
the RIGHT said it was SOCIALISM to even TALK about CEO salaries JUST
like the RIGHT was OFFENDED when obama slammed BP. the RIGHT DEFENDED
OIL COMPANIES.

Changing the subject again? (oil) That is usually a sign that you
lost.

Obama said it was immoral but he did go along with banks borrowing
government money at 0.3% and then lending it out to credit card
customers at up to 29.9% interest instead of doing the business loans
they were supposed to be making with the money. It is no wonder they
are making record profits..
As for Obama, he is far more vulnerable from the left than he is from
the right.That is why the right has to come
WRONG. there is NO LEFT in america.

up with such stupid stuff
to oppose him like the birther bull****.
A guy like Bernie Sanders could seriously hurt him in a primary if he
tried. The dems are just happy to keep their name on the white house,
even if the guy there is a big business republican in democrat
clothing.
HAHAHAHA bernie sanders...you should have been a stand up comic!

you right wingers turned this country over to wall street THEN got
offended when they BANKRUPTED THE COUNTRY

If there are no liberals in the democratic party, why are you a
democrat?


That's a really stupid question, Gregg. The Democratic Party is more
moderate than I like. The Republicans are in the far outer space regions
of right-wing lunacy.

On 15/05/2011 11:17 AM, Harryk wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:55:08 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:33:51 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:09:34 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 10:24:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 06:48:25 -0400, wrote:

I gave you the numbers for 2101 and your assertion that the GOP got
80% was bull****. It was about even.


SEVENTY PERCENT TO THE GOP

that's a shift.

gee...you're wrong

as usual
It wasn't "80%" was it?
It wasn't even 70%, it was 68

but don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.
HAHAHAH

FIRST you said MOST money went to the DEMS

THEN you backpedaled and said it was about EVEN

and NOW you're all upset over 70 vs 80??

ROFLMAO!!!

No I am talking about 68 vs 80

They switched their money from the dems because the dems were solidly
in the bag for them It was the gop fighting the bailouts.
the gop fighting the bailouts???

HENRY PAULSON AUTHORED THEM!!

paulson was BUSH'S TREASURY SECRETARY

and the bailouts were NECESSARY because the RIGHT ensured that we
SOCIALIZED the RISK while PRIVATIZING reward in order to keep this
bull**** MYTH of the 'american dream' alive

you simply can't understand it, can you? it blows your head off your
shoulders to think YOU have screwed america

The bailouts were opposed by most on the right, in spite of Bush
proposing them. It is also interesting that Goldman (Paulsons old
company) gave 75% of their money to the democrats in 2008.
That may have shaded the decision of who to throw over the side.
Lehman probably should have upped their bribe. $1.3 million won't
attract much attention these days (what they gave Democrats in 08)

I hear you lefties bitching about money going to the top and CEO pay
and bonuses but the financial industry has most of the millionaires
and they made huge bonuses on the federal bailout money we gave them.
Right now it is the right fighting the bailouts.
lefties??

i believe in CAPITALISM. a WELL REGULATED FREE MARKET

YOU RIGHT WINGERS believe in PLUTOCRACY

and YES they made BILLIONS. because when OBAMA said this was IMMORAL
the RIGHT said it was SOCIALISM to even TALK about CEO salaries JUST
like the RIGHT was OFFENDED when obama slammed BP. the RIGHT DEFENDED
OIL COMPANIES.

Changing the subject again? (oil) That is usually a sign that you
lost.

Obama said it was immoral but he did go along with banks borrowing
government money at 0.3% and then lending it out to credit card
customers at up to 29.9% interest instead of doing the business loans
they were supposed to be making with the money. It is no wonder they
are making record profits..
As for Obama, he is far more vulnerable from the left than he is from
the right.That is why the right has to come
WRONG. there is NO LEFT in america.

up with such stupid stuff
to oppose him like the birther bull****.
A guy like Bernie Sanders could seriously hurt him in a primary if he
tried. The dems are just happy to keep their name on the white house,
even if the guy there is a big business republican in democrat
clothing.
HAHAHAHA bernie sanders...you should have been a stand up comic!

you right wingers turned this country over to wall street THEN got
offended when they BANKRUPTED THE COUNTRY

If there are no liberals in the democratic party, why are you a
democrat?


That's a really stupid question, Gregg. The Democratic Party is more
moderate than I like. The Republicans are in the far outer space regions
of right-wing lunacy.

Freak, the new GOP are pussies. Only a $60 billion cut and they call
that progress on deficit reduction?

Pussy liberals everywhere.
--
Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we
allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance?

On Sun, 15 May 2011 15:09:46 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 13:17:55 -0400, Harryk
wrote:
If there are no liberals in the democratic party, why are you a
democrat?


That's a really stupid question, Gregg. The Democratic Party is more
moderate than I like. The Republicans are in the far outer space regions
of right-wing lunacy.

... at least the ones they put on TV.
Some of that is just a TV drama.
Most of the politicians on both sides are simply too boring for TV and
not particularly radical in any way.
Do you ever watch Cspan?

C-Span is not much different than rec.boats. Democrats and Republicans saying the same thing over
and over again.

John H wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 15:09:46 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 13:17:55 -0400,
wrote:
If there are no liberals in the democratic party, why are you a
democrat?

That's a really stupid question, Gregg. The Democratic Party is more
moderate than I like. The Republicans are in the far outer space regions
of right-wing lunacy.
... at least the ones they put on TV.
Some of that is just a TV drama.
Most of the politicians on both sides are simply too boring for TV and
not particularly radical in any way.
Do you ever watch Cspan?

C-Span is not much different than rec.boats. Democrats and Republicans saying the same thing over
and over again.

That's just stupid. C-SPAN presents all manner of congressional
coverage, including very important hearings.