Where should the credit go?
 

On Thu, 05 May 2011 22:17:50 -0700, jps sent the
following message
On Thu, 5 May 2011 19:18:16 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:



"Harryk" wrote in message
om...


I guess I'll never understand righties and their disdain for the
rule of
law or custom or behavior considered appropriate for Americans.
When the
government engages in this sort of execution, it is no better
than those
it executes.



As a layperson and American, I support and agree with Obama's
actions
with regard to getting bin Laden.

Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't necessarily agree
that the
action taken was legal under American and International law.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...760358,00.html

Eisboch


Yeah, I don't think they thought what bin Laden did was legal
either.

Stupid comment

Where should the credit go?
 

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:10:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

From yesterday's Washington Post:

"U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier?s identity, senior administration
officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared
mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our
constant attention," one official said.

Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and]
indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years
ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S.
officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration
officials said."

'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap.

http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6

Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including
waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack.

http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423

I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else.

oh for christ's sake

and what would you have given him if he'd sat on the info and waited
for more info

you morons just hate obama so there's NOTHING he could do that would
force you to admit he's more competent than your right wing ponies

If the shoe fits...

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On 05/05/2011 5:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"Harryk" wrote in message
m...


I guess I'll never understand righties and their disdain for the rule
of law or custom or behavior considered appropriate for Americans.
When the government engages in this sort of execution, it is no better
than those it executes.



As a layperson and American, I support and agree with Obama's actions
with regard to getting bin Laden.

Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't necessarily agree that the
action taken was legal under American and International law.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...760358,00.html

Eisboch

What the world should look into more is Pakistan's compliciy in hiding
him. They knew.

Gadhafi is the one they should be nailing Obama with.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Take a look at ANY country, more debt more problems. So why do we allow
our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial?

Where should the credit go?
 

On 06/05/2011 4:01 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 05/05/2011 1:00 PM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 14:04:53 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:57:05 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
I am happy that Obama has repealed the flawed Carter policy of not
targeting people for assassination.
Maybe some day we can return to the Eisenhower policy of shaping civil
war outcomes using covert means and without sending in a 150,000
troops.

It was certainly clear that we could have taken OBL alive but they
made the right choice and blew his head off on site.

Plume, before you protest that, are you really saying a SEAL could
not have wrestled a sickly, 54 year old, unarmed man to the ground if
he wanted to? They saw him, they shot him end of story.

I prefer to deal with what we know...or were told. We were told Osama
was given an opportunity to surrender and live or go out in a blaze of
what he probably assumed was glory. We were told he chose the latter.

That's no different than the choices the police in this country offer
dangerous fugitives who they have cornered or who respond by opening
fire. It usually is referred to as "Death by Cop."

Assuming that was the case, I don't have a problem with the outcome. A
trial would have been long and messy, but it is our way to try
criminals
and prove their guilt in a court of law. To dispose of criminals
otherwise brings us down to the level of the terrorists.
The reports coming back from the SEALs is that there was only one
armed man there, who they shot right away. It is clear they wanted to
kill OBL. I think that was a wise choice.

Very. But it was not in keeping with the liberal interpretation of
'American values'.

The "conservative interpretation" of American values is to shoot, no
matter what? That's the sort of stupidity that got us into Iraq.

Mind you, I don't oppose the shooting of bin Laden, assuming he was
given a chance to surrender alive and turned it down.

If it were you son looking Osama in the eye, and Osama pull a hand into
hidden view --

Would you want your son to chance it that Osama wasn't going for a
grenade, bomb or firearm?

The way they are trained, they could have taken him alive.. Period. It
was a hit, pure and simple. There is no way they were gonna' let Osama
tell the world about the co-operation he was getting from all the
countries involved...

I agree. But with the self admission, warrants and indictments, save
the cost of a trial.

Mind you solitaire in Gitmo for life does have appeal. But still, all
considering, great kill.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Take a look at ANY country, more debt more problems. So why do we allow
our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial?

Where should the credit go?
 

Canuck57 wrote:
On 05/05/2011 5:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"Harryk" wrote in message
m...


I guess I'll never understand righties and their disdain for the rule
of law or custom or behavior considered appropriate for Americans.
When the government engages in this sort of execution, it is no better
than those it executes.



As a layperson and American, I support and agree with Obama's actions
with regard to getting bin Laden.

Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't necessarily agree that the
action taken was legal under American and International law.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...760358,00.html

Eisboch

What the world should look into more is Pakistan's compliciy in hiding
him. They knew.

Gadhafi is the one they should be nailing Obama with.


A. It is obvious that *some* in Pakistan knew Osama was living there.
The question is who.

B. Muammar Gaddafi is very much alive. I must say, I get a kick out of
your moronic defense of Gaddafi and the Libyan government.

Where should the credit go?
 

On 06/05/2011 4:22 AM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
On 05/05/2011 1:00 PM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 14:04:53 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:57:05 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
I am happy that Obama has repealed the flawed Carter policy of not
targeting people for assassination.
Maybe some day we can return to the Eisenhower policy of shaping
civil
war outcomes using covert means and without sending in a 150,000
troops.

It was certainly clear that we could have taken OBL alive but they
made the right choice and blew his head off on site.

Plume, before you protest that, are you really saying a SEAL could
not have wrestled a sickly, 54 year old, unarmed man to the
ground if
he wanted to? They saw him, they shot him end of story.
I prefer to deal with what we know...or were told. We were told
Osama
was given an opportunity to surrender and live or go out in a
blaze of
what he probably assumed was glory. We were told he chose the
latter.

That's no different than the choices the police in this country
offer
dangerous fugitives who they have cornered or who respond by opening
fire. It usually is referred to as "Death by Cop."

Assuming that was the case, I don't have a problem with the
outcome. A
trial would have been long and messy, but it is our way to try
criminals
and prove their guilt in a court of law. To dispose of criminals
otherwise brings us down to the level of the terrorists.
The reports coming back from the SEALs is that there was only one
armed man there, who they shot right away. It is clear they wanted to
kill OBL. I think that was a wise choice.
Very. But it was not in keeping with the liberal interpretation of
'American values'.
The "conservative interpretation" of American values is to shoot, no
matter what? That's the sort of stupidity that got us into Iraq.

Mind you, I don't oppose the shooting of bin Laden, assuming he was
given a chance to surrender alive and turned it down.
If it were you son looking Osama in the eye, and Osama pull a hand into
hidden view --

Would you want your son to chance it that Osama wasn't going for a
grenade, bomb or firearm?

The way they are trained, they could have taken him alive.. Period. It
was a hit, pure and simple. There is no way they were gonna' let Osama
tell the world about the co-operation he was getting from all the
countries involved...


I find it humorous that Canuck and Snotty, two of the three most
ignorant conspiracy theorists on rec.boats, in this and in other posts,
have yet more conspiracies.

Since I wasn't in the room and videos haven't been shown, I don't know
what happened immediately before Osama was shot dead. My *hope* was that
he was indeed first given an opportunity to surrender. As I have stated
previously, it wouldn't bother me to learn he was shot while resisting
capture/arrest.


Part of me believe many of the conspiracy types work for the government.
The idea is to discredit the conspiracy theorists by exaggerating the
claims to the level of stupidity, when in fact some truth to it may exist.

I agree with government, 9/11 happened as they say. But I also believe
they know more than they are letting on in the subsequent events. I
also believe the timing of Osama's death is quite well timed.

Gadhafi assassination attempt for example, innocent kids murdered and
public sediment against the practice going fast against USA, Obama
needed to deflect the blame fast so he played the Osama card. I do not
believe the time of Osama's death was a coincidence one single bit.

It became in Obama's self interest to be the right time to get Osama.

Take John Wheeler and Ashley Turton. Coincidence? To me Coincidence
means you just can't explain why. Not much of anything is truly a
coincidence.

Back to Gadhafi, the motives in assassinating him are not pure as in an
attach on the USA like 9/11. They are in fact quite different and are
of greed and control based. Real reasons US-NATO-UN-IMF-France want
Gadadfi...

- low debt Central Bank of Libya not IMF friendly.
- oil
- Gadhafi a supported of a United African state, funded it. Gbadbo of
Ivory Coast also supported it. Bad for colonialism.
- colonial interest, Gadafi like Gbagbo said they might nationalize
French interests (2010).

Libya rebels are less than 1% usually unemployed young males of the
population and do not have the support of the people at large. They are
a minority militant rebels with al Quada affiliations disrupting a country.

Would not be much different if a 20,000 band of citizens disrupted the
USA really. As this makes it clearly a civil issue and represents zero
threat to other countries.

So in my opinion, with what we know, and unless homes fly with kids in
them, USA is in clear violation of law in these multiple assassination
attempts in Libya. But we know the UN-IMF is behind it so good luck
seeing justice.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Take a look at ANY country, more debt more problems. So why do we allow
our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial?

Where should the credit go?
 

On 06/05/2011 8:24 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 05/05/2011 5:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"Harryk" wrote in message
m...


I guess I'll never understand righties and their disdain for the rule
of law or custom or behavior considered appropriate for Americans.
When the government engages in this sort of execution, it is no better
than those it executes.



As a layperson and American, I support and agree with Obama's actions
with regard to getting bin Laden.

Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't necessarily agree that the
action taken was legal under American and International law.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...760358,00.html

Eisboch

What the world should look into more is Pakistan's compliciy in hiding
him. They knew.

Gadhafi is the one they should be nailing Obama with.


A. It is obvious that *some* in Pakistan knew Osama was living there.
The question is who.

On this we agree.

B. Muammar Gaddafi is very much alive. I must say, I get a kick out of
your moronic defense of Gaddafi and the Libyan government.

Where is your act of war? Where is the evidence or REAL reasons behind
this? Don't tell me it is democracy as that is BS. More unarmed
citizens in peaceful protest were shot by government in Yemen, Behrain
and Syria...and sorry, ARMED rebels do not count as peaceful hard done
by civilians. The who reason give to us by Libya is 100% BS.

Hey, I don't like Kadhafi, but he deserves more due process, not just an
elite temper tantrum and string pill gets him assassinated.

I only agree with Osama because:

- 300+ indictments and warrants exist in multiple countries for Osama
- formal act of war existed and acknowledged by all parties
- 9.5 years is plenty of time to surrender for 9/11.
- everyone knows the *REAL* no BS reasons for it
- his acts were outside his country validating a declaration of war to him.

USA, NATO and UN-IMF have none of that with Kadhafi. So if Kadhafi dies
from a USA missile, I would call it murder, first degree.

Go through the process, government should not be allowed to assassinate
with a stroke of a pen after some back room power group wants their
interests protected.

And don't kill the children.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Take a look at ANY country, more debt more problems. So why do we allow
our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial?

Where should the credit go?
 

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 06 May 2011 06:22:25 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
On 05/05/2011 1:00 PM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 14:04:53 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:57:05 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
I am happy that Obama has repealed the flawed Carter policy of not
targeting people for assassination.
Maybe some day we can return to the Eisenhower policy of shaping civil
war outcomes using covert means and without sending in a 150,000
troops.

It was certainly clear that we could have taken OBL alive but they
made the right choice and blew his head off on site.

Plume, before you protest that, are you really saying a SEAL could
not have wrestled a sickly, 54 year old, unarmed man to the ground if
he wanted to? They saw him, they shot him end of story.
I prefer to deal with what we know...or were told. We were told Osama
was given an opportunity to surrender and live or go out in a blaze of
what he probably assumed was glory. We were told he chose the latter.

That's no different than the choices the police in this country offer
dangerous fugitives who they have cornered or who respond by opening
fire. It usually is referred to as "Death by Cop."

Assuming that was the case, I don't have a problem with the outcome. A
trial would have been long and messy, but it is our way to try
criminals
and prove their guilt in a court of law. To dispose of criminals
otherwise brings us down to the level of the terrorists.
The reports coming back from the SEALs is that there was only one
armed man there, who they shot right away. It is clear they wanted to
kill OBL. I think that was a wise choice.
Very. But it was not in keeping with the liberal interpretation of
'American values'.
The "conservative interpretation" of American values is to shoot, no
matter what? That's the sort of stupidity that got us into Iraq.

Mind you, I don't oppose the shooting of bin Laden, assuming he was
given a chance to surrender alive and turned it down.
If it were you son looking Osama in the eye, and Osama pull a hand into
hidden view --

Would you want your son to chance it that Osama wasn't going for a
grenade, bomb or firearm?

The way they are trained, they could have taken him alive.. Period. It
was a hit, pure and simple. There is no way they were gonna' let Osama
tell the world about the co-operation he was getting from all the
countries involved...


I find it humorous that Canuck and Snotty, two of the three most
ignorant conspiracy theorists on rec.boats, in this and in other posts,
have yet more conspiracies.

Since I wasn't in the room and videos haven't been shown, I don't know
what happened immediately before Osama was shot dead. My *hope* was that
he was indeed first given an opportunity to surrender. As I have stated
previously, it wouldn't bother me to learn he was shot while resisting
capture/arrest.

NBC has an unnamed white house official calling this a kill mission. I
think it is clear they were not looking for a prisoner.

Earlier today Savannah Guthrie quoted an unnamed White House official
commenting on the rising criticism of how bin Laden was killed, who
said "they weren?t raiding a girl scout troop looking for overdue
library books. They were on a kill mission for Osama bin Laden."

I'm sure they got more from the computers they took than anything OBL
would tell them, no matter how much water they splashed in his face.

The way these guys are trained they could have taken him alive, period.
Harry and the rest of the hypocrites here just can't admit it was a kill
mission, it doesn't fit their agenda... I still think it would have been
better to "splash him in the face" a few times. I am sure there was
stuff in his head that was not on disk. Most likely the names of the US,
UN, and Pakistani contacts that were protecting him there...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Where should the credit go?
 

On Fri, 06 May 2011 07:40:21 -0400, Percy wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 22:17:50 -0700, jps sent the
following message
On Thu, 5 May 2011 19:18:16 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:



"Harryk" wrote in message
om...


I guess I'll never understand righties and their disdain for the
rule of
law or custom or behavior considered appropriate for Americans.
When the
government engages in this sort of execution, it is no better
than those
it executes.



As a layperson and American, I support and agree with Obama's
actions
with regard to getting bin Laden.

Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't necessarily agree
that the
action taken was legal under American and International law.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...760358,00.html

Eisboch


Yeah, I don't think they thought what bin Laden did was legal
either.

Stupid comment

The fact that you don't understand tongue-in-cheek humor is no
reflection on me.

I'll take a wild guess that you lean conservative.

Where should the credit go?
 

On Fri, 06 May 2011 09:10:39 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 06/05/2011 8:24 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 05/05/2011 5:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"Harryk" wrote in message
m...


I guess I'll never understand righties and their disdain for the rule
of law or custom or behavior considered appropriate for Americans.
When the government engages in this sort of execution, it is no better
than those it executes.



As a layperson and American, I support and agree with Obama's actions
with regard to getting bin Laden.

Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't necessarily agree that the
action taken was legal under American and International law.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...760358,00.html

Eisboch

What the world should look into more is Pakistan's compliciy in hiding
him. They knew.

Gadhafi is the one they should be nailing Obama with.


A. It is obvious that *some* in Pakistan knew Osama was living there.
The question is who.

On this we agree.

B. Muammar Gaddafi is very much alive. I must say, I get a kick out of
your moronic defense of Gaddafi and the Libyan government.

Where is your act of war? Where is the evidence or REAL reasons behind
this? Don't tell me it is democracy as that is BS. More unarmed
citizens in peaceful protest were shot by government in Yemen, Behrain
and Syria...and sorry, ARMED rebels do not count as peaceful hard done
by civilians. The who reason give to us by Libya is 100% BS.

Hey, I don't like Kadhafi, but he deserves more due process, not just an
elite temper tantrum and string pill gets him assassinated.

I only agree with Osama because:

- 300+ indictments and warrants exist in multiple countries for Osama
- formal act of war existed and acknowledged by all parties
- 9.5 years is plenty of time to surrender for 9/11.
- everyone knows the *REAL* no BS reasons for it
- his acts were outside his country validating a declaration of war to him.

USA, NATO and UN-IMF have none of that with Kadhafi. So if Kadhafi dies
from a USA missile, I would call it murder, first degree.

Go through the process, government should not be allowed to assassinate
with a stroke of a pen after some back room power group wants their
interests protected.

And don't kill the children.

OH MY GOD! You believe in due process?? That has got to be the
funniest thing I've heard in months.

Where should the credit go?
 

On Fri, 06 May 2011 13:59:57 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 15:30:52 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 17:22:00 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 13:40:24 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:05:40 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 15:00:49 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 14:04:53 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:57:05 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
I am happy that Obama has repealed the flawed Carter policy of not
targeting people for assassination.
Maybe some day we can return to the Eisenhower policy of shaping civil
war outcomes using covert means and without sending in a 150,000
troops.

It was certainly clear that we could have taken OBL alive but they
made the right choice and blew his head off on site.

Plume, before you protest that, are you really saying a SEAL could
not have wrestled a sickly, 54 year old, unarmed man to the ground if
he wanted to? They saw him, they shot him end of story.

I prefer to deal with what we know...or were told. We were told Osama
was given an opportunity to surrender and live or go out in a blaze of
what he probably assumed was glory. We were told he chose the latter.

That's no different than the choices the police in this country offer
dangerous fugitives who they have cornered or who respond by opening
fire. It usually is referred to as "Death by Cop."

Assuming that was the case, I don't have a problem with the outcome. A
trial would have been long and messy, but it is our way to try criminals
and prove their guilt in a court of law. To dispose of criminals
otherwise brings us down to the level of the terrorists.
The reports coming back from the SEALs is that there was only one
armed man there, who they shot right away. It is clear they wanted to
kill OBL. I think that was a wise choice.

Very. But it was not in keeping with the liberal interpretation of 'American values'.

The "conservative interpretation" of American values is to shoot, no
matter what? That's the sort of stupidity that got us into Iraq.

Mind you, I don't oppose the shooting of bin Laden, assuming he was
given a chance to surrender alive and turned it down.

I doubt there was much of an offer to surrender. They certainly could
have taken him alive if that was what the mission was. If nothing
else they could have knee capped him. These guys can hit whatever they
shoot at inside of a room

Sure. You know everything about everything. We get it.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...en-raid-emerge

Turn on the news

Interesting how the story keep changing. I wonder what the Oracle will
say next.


I guess your silence indicates you finally did turn on the news and
stopped quoting old stories you googled up. I assume news comes 3
hours later out there on the left coast.

I guess you're unable to scroll to the next post. I wonder if it's a
genetic defect for all oracles or just you.

Where should the credit go?
 

On Fri, 06 May 2011 15:08:19 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 11:46:04 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 13:59:57 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 15:30:52 -0700, wrote:


http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...en-raid-emerge

Turn on the news

Interesting how the story keep changing. I wonder what the Oracle will
say next.


I guess your silence indicates you finally did turn on the news and
stopped quoting old stories you googled up. I assume news comes 3
hours later out there on the left coast.

I guess you're unable to scroll to the next post. I wonder if it's a
genetic defect for all oracles or just you.


Do you mean the post where you talked about the 40 minute fire fight?

I am not an oracle, I just watch the news and see what the White House
is saying right now.

That was what was reported. Of course, feel free to deny that. Given
that you have nothing better to do, I suggest watching the news 24/7
and reporting to the newsgroup on a 10-minute schedule.

Where should the credit go?
 

On Fri, 06 May 2011 15:22:17 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 12:13:16 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 15:08:19 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 11:46:04 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 13:59:57 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 15:30:52 -0700, wrote:


http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...en-raid-emerge

Turn on the news

Interesting how the story keep changing. I wonder what the Oracle will
say next.


I guess your silence indicates you finally did turn on the news and
stopped quoting old stories you googled up. I assume news comes 3
hours later out there on the left coast.

I guess you're unable to scroll to the next post. I wonder if it's a
genetic defect for all oracles or just you.


Do you mean the post where you talked about the 40 minute fire fight?

I am not an oracle, I just watch the news and see what the White House
is saying right now.

That was what was reported. Of course, feel free to deny that. Given
that you have nothing better to do, I suggest watching the news 24/7
and reporting to the newsgroup on a 10-minute schedule.

Why bother, you would just say I was wrong.

I do know one thing, I went back to look at your old posts (in
reference to the OBL thing) and I got disgusted about 200 in, because
about 60-70% of them are simply one line insults. I had no interest in
looking at 1200 more.
It is certainly not fitting of a person who spends so much time
talking about your superior education. I bet your English professor
would be embarrassed.

Interesting that you care what I say about morons. How many were
one-line insults directed at you?

I'm still waiting for you to identify the post where I claimed
catching/killing OBL would solve the terrorist problem.

Where should the credit go?
 

On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.

Where should the credit go?
 

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.


Wayne, you really ought to try harder. Ms. 'Plume is not my parrot or
anyone else's. We've never even exchanged an email. She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

Where should the credit go?
 

On Fri, 06 May 2011 18:37:42 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

Not at all. I enjoy conversing with intelligent, thoughtful people
who do not have a knee jerk reaction to every situation.

Unfortunately that excludes you and your parrot.

Where should the credit go?
 

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 18:37:42 -0400,
wrote:

She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

Not at all. I enjoy conversing with intelligent, thoughtful people
who do not have a knee jerk reaction to every situation.

Unfortunately that excludes you and your parrot.


That's funny, since you have the typical right-wing knee jerk reaction
to just about every criticism of the so-called "free market system" and
corporatism.

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On Fri, 06 May 2011 11:56:34 -0400, wrote:

I'm sure they got more from the computers they took than anything OBL
would tell them, no matter how much water they splashed in his face.

Probably so but he got off easily compared to people in the World
Trade Center who had to make a decision between jumping or burning.

One of those people was my old IBM sales rep, a beautiful charming
woman with young children.

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On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 13:09:01 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 15:22:17 -0400, wrote:


Why bother, you would just say I was wrong.

I do know one thing, I went back to look at your old posts (in
reference to the OBL thing) and I got disgusted about 200 in, because
about 60-70% of them are simply one line insults. I had no interest in
looking at 1200 more.
It is certainly not fitting of a person who spends so much time
talking about your superior education. I bet your English professor
would be embarrassed.

Interesting that you care what I say about morons. How many were
one-line insults directed at you?

More than a few, including a couple in this thread.

Indeed... did I start any of them?

I'm still waiting for you to identify the post where I claimed
catching/killing OBL would solve the terrorist problem.

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

Like I said, prove it, and I'll own it.

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On Fri, 06 May 2011 17:47:59 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.

You're a cluck! LOL

Where should the credit go?
 

On Fri, 06 May 2011 19:14:10 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 18:37:42 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

Not at all. I enjoy conversing with intelligent, thoughtful people
who do not have a knee jerk reaction to every situation.

Unfortunately that excludes you and your parrot.

Unfortunately, you're having some trouble doing that!

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Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 05/05/2011 5:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"Harryk" wrote in message
m...


I guess I'll never understand righties and their disdain for the rule
of law or custom or behavior considered appropriate for Americans.
When the government engages in this sort of execution, it is no better
than those it executes.



As a layperson and American, I support and agree with Obama's actions
with regard to getting bin Laden.

Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't necessarily agree that the
action taken was legal under American and International law.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...760358,00.html

Eisboch

What the world should look into more is Pakistan's compliciy in hiding
him. They knew.

Gadhafi is the one they should be nailing Obama with.


A. It is obvious that *some* in Pakistan knew Osama was living there.
The question is who.

B. Muammar Gaddafi is very much alive. I must say, I get a kick out of
your moronic defense of Gaddafi and the Libyan government.
Who cares what you think? Your narcissism is controlling you again/still.

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Harryk wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.


Wayne, you really ought to try harder. Ms. 'Plume is not my parrot or
anyone else's. We've never even exchanged an email. She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.
"She" hasn't posted on-topic in 6 months and that was a joke. "She" is
here for your entertainment and "she" is likely one of your sock puppets
considering all of the time you two spend here posting political bull****.

Where should the credit go?
 

In article ,
says...

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.


Wayne, you really ought to try harder. Ms. 'Plume is not my parrot or
anyone else's. We've never even exchanged an email. She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

You would consider someone who comes here and does nothing but call
people morons bright. That's all you and she have, name calling and
insults.

Where should the credit go?
 

"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.


Wayne, you really ought to try harder. Ms. 'Plume is not my parrot or
anyone else's. We've never even exchanged an email. She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

You would consider someone who comes here and does nothing but call
people morons bright. That's all you and she have, name calling and
insults.

***************

Well Kevin... you come here and constantly call people names, agitate,
instigate & irritate but no one would ever refer to you as 'bright".

Where should the credit go?
 

On Sat, 7 May 2011 13:58:04 -0300, "True North"
wrote:



"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.


Wayne, you really ought to try harder. Ms. 'Plume is not my parrot or
anyone else's. We've never even exchanged an email. She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

You would consider someone who comes here and does nothing but call
people morons bright. That's all you and she have, name calling and
insults.

***************

Well Kevin... you come here and constantly call people names, agitate,
instigate & irritate but no one would ever refer to you as 'bright".

They, including Kevin, whoever that is, are a bunch of cowards,
stalkers, and right wing racists. I'm not name-calling. I'm
identifying.

Where should the credit go?
 

Where should the credit go?
 

On 06/05/2011 10:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 09:10:39 -0600,
wrote:

And don't kill the children.

I assume they are using the Grant doctrine "Little indians grow up to
be big indians"

Doesn't mater, the children were murdered by USA. Now you have a lot
more future Taliban....

I am pretty sure the timing of Osama's demise is directly related to the
botch job of NATO/US assassination attempt of Kadhafi that killed
children. The principle is called blame deflection and herd management.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Take a look at ANY country, more debt more problems. So why do we allow
our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial?

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In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.


Wayne, you really ought to try harder. Ms. 'Plume is not my parrot or
anyone else's. We've never even exchanged an email. She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

You would consider someone who comes here and does nothing but call
people morons bright. That's all you and she have, name calling and
insults.

***************

Well Kevin... you come here and constantly call people names, agitate,
instigate & irritate but no one would ever refer to you as 'bright".

It's too bad that you're too stupid to understand that I'm not Kevin. If
you don't know who someone is, you really shouldn't act like you do, it
just makes you look dumber than you've already made yourself look.

Where should the credit go?
 

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 7 May 2011 13:58:04 -0300, "True North"
wrote:



"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.


Wayne, you really ought to try harder. Ms. 'Plume is not my parrot or
anyone else's. We've never even exchanged an email. She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

You would consider someone who comes here and does nothing but call
people morons bright. That's all you and she have, name calling and
insults.

***************

Well Kevin... you come here and constantly call people names, agitate,
instigate & irritate but no one would ever refer to you as 'bright".

They, including Kevin, whoever that is, are a bunch of cowards,
stalkers, and right wing racists. I'm not name-calling. I'm
identifying.

If I'm included in "they", show me one single instance of me stalking
anyone, one instance of me being cowardly, and one instance of me being
racist. Go ahead, call names now because you CAN'T do any of the above.

Where should the credit go?
 

"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.


Wayne, you really ought to try harder. Ms. 'Plume is not my parrot or
anyone else's. We've never even exchanged an email. She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

You would consider someone who comes here and does nothing but call
people morons bright. That's all you and she have, name calling and
insults.

***************

Well Kevin... you come here and constantly call people names, agitate,
instigate & irritate but no one would ever refer to you as 'bright".

It's too bad that you're too stupid to understand that I'm not Kevin. If
you don't know who someone is, you really shouldn't act like you do, it
just makes you look dumber than you've already made yourself look.

*********************

Wanna bet, Kevin?

Where should the credit go?
 

In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.


Wayne, you really ought to try harder. Ms. 'Plume is not my parrot or
anyone else's. We've never even exchanged an email. She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

You would consider someone who comes here and does nothing but call
people morons bright. That's all you and she have, name calling and
insults.

***************

Well Kevin... you come here and constantly call people names, agitate,
instigate & irritate but no one would ever refer to you as 'bright".

It's too bad that you're too stupid to understand that I'm not Kevin. If
you don't know who someone is, you really shouldn't act like you do, it
just makes you look dumber than you've already made yourself look.

*********************

Wanna bet, Kevin?

I don't know about Kevin, but YES, I want to bet that I'm not Kevin.
$500 sound okay? You asked, now let's see if you have the balls.

Where should the credit go?
 

"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my
cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about
why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan
where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not
even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot
is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.


Wayne, you really ought to try harder. Ms. 'Plume is not my parrot or
anyone else's. We've never even exchanged an email. She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

You would consider someone who comes here and does nothing but call
people morons bright. That's all you and she have, name calling and
insults.

***************

Well Kevin... you come here and constantly call people names, agitate,
instigate & irritate but no one would ever refer to you as 'bright".

It's too bad that you're too stupid to understand that I'm not Kevin. If
you don't know who someone is, you really shouldn't act like you do, it
just makes you look dumber than you've already made yourself look.

*********************

Wanna bet, Kevin?

I don't know about Kevin, but YES, I want to bet that I'm not Kevin.
$500 sound okay? You asked, now let's see if you have the balls.

**********

I'd bet that you don't have any 'balls'..........

Where should the credit go?
 

In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"Hairy Kraut" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my
cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about
why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan
where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not
even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot
is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.


Wayne, you really ought to try harder. Ms. 'Plume is not my parrot or
anyone else's. We've never even exchanged an email. She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

You would consider someone who comes here and does nothing but call
people morons bright. That's all you and she have, name calling and
insults.

***************

Well Kevin... you come here and constantly call people names, agitate,
instigate & irritate but no one would ever refer to you as 'bright".

It's too bad that you're too stupid to understand that I'm not Kevin. If
you don't know who someone is, you really shouldn't act like you do, it
just makes you look dumber than you've already made yourself look.

*********************

Wanna bet, Kevin?

I don't know about Kevin, but YES, I want to bet that I'm not Kevin.
$500 sound okay? You asked, now let's see if you have the balls.

**********

I'd bet that you don't have any 'balls'..........

As suspected, you turned tail like the pussy you are.

Where should the credit go?
 

Hairy Kraut wrote:


Wanna bet, Kevin?

I don't know about Kevin, but YES, I want to bet that I'm not Kevin.
$500 sound okay? You asked, now let's see if you have the balls.

**********

I'd bet that you don't have any 'balls'..........

As suspected, you turned tail like the pussy you are.

- - -

Everyone knows who Don is. You're the pussy. You keep changing handles
here and you're too much the wimp to reveal your actual identity.

Is your wife recovering?

Where should the credit go?
 

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

Hairy Kraut wrote:


Wanna bet, Kevin?

I don't know about Kevin, but YES, I want to bet that I'm not Kevin.
$500 sound okay? You asked, now let's see if you have the balls.

**********

I'd bet that you don't have any 'balls'..........

As suspected, you turned tail like the pussy you are.

- - -

Everyone knows who Don is. You're the pussy. You keep changing handles
here and you're too much the wimp to reveal your actual identity.

Is your wife recovering?

I don't have a wife to start with, so what would one's wife be
recovering from, dip****? And because Don is too stupid to heed the
advice of anyone with any sense like you, means what exactly? HE is the
dip**** that claims I'm Kevin, then when confronted with a bet, he puts
his tail between his legs and pees like a scared puppy.

Where should the credit go?
 

Hairy Kraut wrote:
In articlenKmdne8oO_7BYFrQnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
Hairy Kraut wrote:
Wanna bet, Kevin?
I don't know about Kevin, but YES, I want to bet that I'm not Kevin.
$500 sound okay? You asked, now let's see if you have the balls.

**********

I'd bet that you don't have any 'balls'..........
As suspected, you turned tail like the pussy you are.
- - -

Everyone knows who Don is. You're the pussy. You keep changing handles
here and you're too much the wimp to reveal your actual identity.

Is your wife recovering?

I don't have a wife to start with, so what would one's wife be
recovering from, dip****? And because Don is too stupid to heed the
advice of anyone with any sense like you, means what exactly? HE is the
dip**** that claims I'm Kevin, then when confronted with a bet, he puts
his tail between his legs and pees like a scared puppy.

Still in loogy denial, eh, loogy? Well, if that denial is so important
to you, you ought to tell us who you really are...or want to pretend to be.

No wife, eh? Lifelong bachelor, divorced, widower?

Where should the credit go?
 

In article ,
says...

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

Hairy Kraut wrote:


Wanna bet, Kevin?

I don't know about Kevin, but YES, I want to bet that I'm not Kevin.
$500 sound okay? You asked, now let's see if you have the balls.

**********

I'd bet that you don't have any 'balls'..........

As suspected, you turned tail like the pussy you are.

- - -

Everyone knows who Don is. You're the pussy. You keep changing handles
here and you're too much the wimp to reveal your actual identity.

Is your wife recovering?

I don't have a wife to start with, so what would one's wife be
recovering from, dip****? And because Don is too stupid to heed the
advice of anyone with any sense like you, means what exactly? HE is the
dip**** that claims I'm Kevin, then when confronted with a bet, he
puts
his tail between his legs and pees like a scared puppy.

So **** him.. He is only trying to minimization you here, that's what
Harrie, John, Don, JPS, Bob and the rest of them do when they are not
the center of attention... **** them...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

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I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
In articlenKmdne8oO_7BYFrQnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
Hairy Kraut wrote:
Wanna bet, Kevin?
I don't know about Kevin, but YES, I want to bet that I'm not Kevin.
$500 sound okay? You asked, now let's see if you have the balls.

**********

I'd bet that you don't have any 'balls'..........
As suspected, you turned tail like the pussy you are.
- - -

Everyone knows who Don is. You're the pussy. You keep changing handles
here and you're too much the wimp to reveal your actual identity.

Is your wife recovering?
I don't have a wife to start with, so what would one's wife be
recovering from, dip****? And because Don is too stupid to heed the
advice of anyone with any sense like you, means what exactly? HE is the
dip**** that claims I'm Kevin, then when confronted with a bet, he
puts
his tail between his legs and pees like a scared puppy.

So **** him.. He is only trying to minimization you here, that's what
Harrie, John, Don, JPS, Bob and the rest of them do when they are not
the center of attention... **** them...


Wow...what an interesting way to misuse a word...minimization.
Your good buddy wants to be loogy...so, he *is* loogy. You, on the other
hand, will always be a useless little turd.

Where should the credit go?
 

In article ,
says...

Hairy Kraut wrote:
In articlenKmdne8oO_7BYFrQnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
Hairy Kraut wrote:
Wanna bet, Kevin?
I don't know about Kevin, but YES, I want to bet that I'm not Kevin.
$500 sound okay? You asked, now let's see if you have the balls.

**********

I'd bet that you don't have any 'balls'..........
As suspected, you turned tail like the pussy you are.
- - -

Everyone knows who Don is. You're the pussy. You keep changing handles
here and you're too much the wimp to reveal your actual identity.

Is your wife recovering?

I don't have a wife to start with, so what would one's wife be
recovering from, dip****? And because Don is too stupid to heed the
advice of anyone with any sense like you, means what exactly? HE is the
dip**** that claims I'm Kevin, then when confronted with a bet, he puts
his tail between his legs and pees like a scared puppy.

Still in loogy denial, eh, loogy? Well, if that denial is so important
to you, you ought to tell us who you really are...or want to pretend to be.

No wife, eh? Lifelong bachelor, divorced, widower?

If you think I'm in denial, bet me some money, pussy.