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I_am_Tosk April 19th 11 02:15 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 

That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Harryk April 19th 11 02:23 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...



What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?



TopBassDog April 19th 11 02:35 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On Apr 19, 7:23*am, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices..


They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?


Herr Krause. It looks like the leftist administration is doing a great
job in helping to take care of Bush's oil buddies. Yes, Bush was
being blamed for taking care of his cronies and forcing crude oil to
rise over $100.00 USD per barrel.

It looks like the Obama administration is making sure the same cronies
are being well fed. Or is it still Bush's fault?

Canuck57[_9_] April 19th 11 04:20 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 19/04/2011 6:15 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:

That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


Too many people listen to Obama's lips move. Fact is higher prices mean
more tax income for governments, there is no incentive for government to
keep prices low. But I am sure Obama will pay it lip service.

I see the USD fell again...relative to the CAD.

I wonder what people expect now that since Obama took office you also
produce less oil. And more new valueless inflationary fiat money as no
one is lending Washington DC money.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

I_am_Tosk April 19th 11 04:25 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
In article 8d6f1cae-d6cd-4441-bd3f-6c9d6f853fd4
@v11g2000prb.googlegroups.com, says...

On Apr 19, 7:23*am, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.


They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?


Herr Krause. It looks like the leftist administration is doing a great
job in helping to take care of Bush's oil buddies. Yes, Bush was
being blamed for taking care of his cronies and forcing crude oil to
rise over $100.00 USD per barrel.

It looks like the Obama administration is making sure the same cronies
are being well fed. Or is it still Bush's fault?


Nope, Obama is bought and paid for. And what if our season is being hurt
because of prices. Only an elitist asshole like Krause would be happy
the whole country is hurting so much. Guess the fat pedophile already
has his...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Harryk April 19th 11 04:37 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article8d6f1cae-d6cd-4441-bd3f-6c9d6f853fd4
@v11g2000prb.googlegroups.com, says...
On Apr 19, 7:23 am, wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.
They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...
What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?

Herr Krause. It looks like the leftist administration is doing a great
job in helping to take care of Bush's oil buddies. Yes, Bush was
being blamed for taking care of his cronies and forcing crude oil to
rise over $100.00 USD per barrel.

It looks like the Obama administration is making sure the same cronies
are being well fed. Or is it still Bush's fault?


Nope, Obama is bought and paid for. And what if our season is being hurt
because of prices. Only an elitist asshole like Krause would be happy
the whole country is hurting so much. Guess the fat pedophile already
has his...



What makes you think (ha!), little dip****, that I am "happy" that "the
whole country is hurting so much."? Is this another of your bizarre
fantasies, the one the voices in your head tell you?

Oh, and as far as your pedophilia nonsense, I think you are projecting.
You're the one who spends time in a tent with an underaged girl. I
don't. It wouldn't surprise me to learn you are a sex-starved child
abuser. I mean, what sort of adult woman would mess around sexually with
a short, dirty, failure like you?

If your kiddie motorbike season is being hurt because of gasoline
prices, you could always channel that energy and what bucks you have
into activities that would make your kids smarter and more successful in
school. You know, so they don't have to get a job in a warehouse.

I_am_Tosk April 19th 11 04:44 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article8d6f1cae-d6cd-4441-bd3f-6c9d6f853fd4
@v11g2000prb.googlegroups.com, says...
On Apr 19, 7:23 am, wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.
They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...
What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
Herr Krause. It looks like the leftist administration is doing a great
job in helping to take care of Bush's oil buddies. Yes, Bush was
being blamed for taking care of his cronies and forcing crude oil to
rise over $100.00 USD per barrel.

It looks like the Obama administration is making sure the same cronies
are being well fed. Or is it still Bush's fault?


Nope, Obama is bought and paid for. And what if our season is being hurt
because of prices. Only an elitist asshole like Krause would be happy
the whole country is hurting so much. Guess the fat pedophile already
has his...



What makes you think (ha!), little dip****,


That's about as far as I (or anybody) got on your post... I already know
what you have been told to say, you are too dumb to have a thought of
your own anyway...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Harryk April 19th 11 04:49 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articleKvCdnQb7ePWSAzDQnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article8d6f1cae-d6cd-4441-bd3f-6c9d6f853fd4
@v11g2000prb.googlegroups.com, says...
On Apr 19, 7:23 am, wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.
They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...
What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
Herr Krause. It looks like the leftist administration is doing a great
job in helping to take care of Bush's oil buddies. Yes, Bush was
being blamed for taking care of his cronies and forcing crude oil to
rise over $100.00 USD per barrel.

It looks like the Obama administration is making sure the same cronies
are being well fed. Or is it still Bush's fault?
Nope, Obama is bought and paid for. And what if our season is being hurt
because of prices. Only an elitist asshole like Krause would be happy
the whole country is hurting so much. Guess the fat pedophile already
has his...


What makes you think (ha!), little dip****,


That's about as far as I (or anybody) got on your post... I already know
what you have been told to say, you are too dumb to have a thought of
your own anyway...



Show us your teahadist-birther membership card...the one with the
misspellings.

[email protected] April 19th 11 06:31 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:23:07 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...



What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?


When GWB took office we were mostly at peace, we had pretty much full
employment, and a surplus.

Of course Newt put out a contract on America and got booted out of his
job and the House when Clinton called his bluff.

Harryk April 19th 11 06:39 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:23:07 -0400,
wrote:

I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?


When GWB took office we were mostly at peace, we had pretty much full
employment, and a surplus.

Of course Newt put out a contract on America and got booted out of his
job and the House when Clinton called his bluff.



But...but...but...Clinton had sex with a woman not his wife!
Of course, so did the Newt.

Despot[_3_] April 19th 11 07:26 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 4/19/2011 8:23 AM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...



What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.


"Found a credit card receipt for "regular grade" gasoline I bought in
June, 2001.

$1.349 a gallon at an Exxon station in Alexandria, Virginia.

I paid $2.09 yesterday for regular at Exxon.
That's what...about a 55% increase in three years, or about 18% a year
since Bush assumed office.

Thanks, Dubya."

-- Harry Krause, rec.boats, May 22 2004, 7:25 am



So I guess the moral of the story is that HK is also a "simple-minded
little troll", and part "of the "fear-mongered" masses."


Harryk April 19th 11 08:41 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 4/19/2011 1:26 PM, Despot wrote:
On 4/19/2011 8:23 AM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...



What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.


"Found a credit card receipt for "regular grade" gasoline I bought in
June, 2001.

$1.349 a gallon at an Exxon station in Alexandria, Virginia.

I paid $2.09 yesterday for regular at Exxon.
That's what...about a 55% increase in three years, or about 18% a year
since Bush assumed office.

Thanks, Dubya."

-- Harry Krause, rec.boats, May 22 2004, 7:25 am



So I guess the moral of the story is that HK is also a "simple-minded
little troll", and part "of the "fear-mongered" masses."


Understanding what you read is not your forté, eh?

I never said that Bush was responsible for the increase. I just pointed
out that "regular grade" gasoline prices went up when Bush was in office.

Under the current administration they've gone up only 30% in three
years, or about 10% a year since he assumed office.

Thanks, Obama

TopBassDog April 20th 11 01:32 AM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On Apr 19, 1:41*pm, Harryk wrote:
On 4/19/2011 1:26 PM, Despot wrote:









On 4/19/2011 8:23 AM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.


They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.


"Found a credit card receipt for "regular grade" gasoline I bought in
June, 2001.


$1.349 a gallon at an Exxon station in Alexandria, Virginia.


I paid $2.09 yesterday for regular at Exxon.
That's what...about a 55% increase in three years, or about 18% a year
since Bush assumed office.


Thanks, Dubya."


-- Harry Krause, rec.boats, May 22 2004, 7:25 am


So I guess the moral of the story is that HK is also a "simple-minded
little troll", and part "of the "fear-mongered" masses."


Understanding what you read is not your forté, eh?

I never said that Bush was responsible for the increase. I just pointed
out that "regular grade" gasoline prices went up when Bush was in office.

Under the current administration they've gone up only 30% in three
years, or about 10% a year since he assumed office.

Thanks, Obama


Herr Krause. According to much of your past expose' all, not some;
but ALL of life's inconveniences are Bush's fault.

Wayne B April 20th 11 02:21 AM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:47:49 -0400, Gene
wrote:

Let me make a suggestion... in 2012, be less concerned with birth
certificates.... and more concerned with what it takes to be a real
leader....


If we can find a real leader willing to run and have his name dragged
through the dirt.


I_am_Tosk April 20th 11 02:59 AM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:15:23 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:


That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


OK... I'll bite.... Bush had a gas price low of $1.20 per gallon, but
under HIS administration we had gas topping $4.50 per gallon. That
was, however, accepted, since his father and cronies were in the oil
business....

Gas dropped to a low of $1.60 prior to Obama's tenure, because they
thought he had balls. When it became apparent he didn't, fuel prices
skyrocketed......

Let me make a suggestion... in 2012, be less concerned with birth
certificates.... and more concerned with what it takes to be a real
leader....


It was just as bad when bush let the gas get up, but we never had gas
topping $4.50 a gallon, at least in real life.. And I live in CT, where
our prices are just about at where Cal is.. Now if Cal got up there and
you want to cite that as a national average, that's another lobsta'
boat...

Besides, I was talking about this ethanol hoax (always a hoax with the
dems, y2k, global taxing, now ethanol), they are putting the money in
the pockets of the refiners (big oil just like Bush did) and dismantling
our oil and food processing industries... For a few bucks..

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

BAR[_2_] April 20th 11 01:36 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...



What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?


The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?



Harryk April 20th 11 01:47 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?


The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?



The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.



BAR[_2_] April 20th 11 02:12 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?


The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?



The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.


What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?


Harryk April 20th 11 02:22 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.


What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?



If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.



I_am_Tosk April 20th 11 02:32 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.


What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?



If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.


So, inother words.. you just said it, you have not basis or solution....

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

OmDeFlume April 20th 11 02:38 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 4/20/2011 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
*In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...*

BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?

The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?



*The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.*


What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?


More evidence that Krause is a fripping idiot.

Harryk April 20th 11 02:57 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlenoidnQ4SZq2STTPQnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.
What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?


If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.


So, inother words.. you just said it, you have not basis or solution....



As an intelligent, educated individual, Snotty, I read lots of properly
researched documents pertaining to the issues of the day. One of these
issues is commodity speculation. The Europeans, among others, have been
discussing the issue for some time, and those discussions include
possible ways to curtail petrol speculation.

I have no specific knowledge about how to "fix" the problems caused by
petrol speculation, but others with the right sort of expertise are "on"
it, eh? At some point, various positions will be put forward and
discussed, agreements may be reached, and the beginnings of solutions
may be implemented.

That's how things get done in the adult, civilized world. It takes more
to solve complicated problems than your usual series of grunts and
headlines from Fox News. And it isn't isn't necessary for an individual
to make himself or herself an "expert" on every subject.

Now, you probably should return to your usual stupor.






I_am_Tosk April 20th 11 03:03 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlenoidnQ4SZq2STTPQnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.
What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?


If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.


So, inother words.. you just said it, you have not basis or solution....



As an intelligent, educated individual, Snotty, I read lots of properly
researched documents pertaining to the issues of the day. One of these
issues is commodity speculation. The Europeans, among others, have been
discussing the issue for some time, and those discussions include
possible ways to curtail petrol speculation.

I have no specific knowledge about how to "fix" the problems caused by
petrol speculation, but others with the right sort of expertise are "on"
it, eh? At some point, various positions will be put forward and
discussed, agreements may be reached, and the beginnings of solutions
may be implemented.

That's how things get done in the adult, civilized world. It takes more
to solve complicated problems than your usual series of grunts and
headlines from Fox News. And it isn't isn't necessary for an individual
to make himself or herself an "expert" on every subject.

Now, you probably should return to your usual stupor.


And you to being led around by the nose by the DNC... You can't see out
of your own back yard much less make an informed observation on
business... In other words, you have no solutions, just talking points.
Maybe you should go back to see if you can get that GED...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Harryk April 20th 11 03:10 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlea5GdnYGmyKvQRTPQnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlenoidnQ4SZq2STTPQnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.
What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?

If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.
So, inother words.. you just said it, you have not basis or solution....


As an intelligent, educated individual, Snotty, I read lots of properly
researched documents pertaining to the issues of the day. One of these
issues is commodity speculation. The Europeans, among others, have been
discussing the issue for some time, and those discussions include
possible ways to curtail petrol speculation.

I have no specific knowledge about how to "fix" the problems caused by
petrol speculation, but others with the right sort of expertise are "on"
it, eh? At some point, various positions will be put forward and
discussed, agreements may be reached, and the beginnings of solutions
may be implemented.

That's how things get done in the adult, civilized world. It takes more
to solve complicated problems than your usual series of grunts and
headlines from Fox News. And it isn't isn't necessary for an individual
to make himself or herself an "expert" on every subject.

Now, you probably should return to your usual stupor.


And you to being led around by the nose by the DNC... You can't see out
of your own back yard much less make an informed observation on
business... In other words, you have no solutions, just talking points.
Maybe you should go back to see if you can get that GED...



Obviously, you don't have the ability to understand what you read. I was
discussing what the European common market countries were doing in terms
of commodity speculation and possible ways to curtail it. That has
nothing to do with the DNC.

The other day you made another of your idiotic comments, regarding one
of Obama's two supreme court nominees.

It's not up to me to decide how to curtail commodity speculation, bozo.
All you are accomplishing here is proving that you really are an
uneducated, unknowing automaton of the really stupid right, a teahadist
birther. You're being used, little man, and you're not even aware of it.



Canuck57[_9_] April 20th 11 06:03 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 19/04/2011 12:41 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 4/19/2011 1:26 PM, Despot wrote:
On 4/19/2011 8:23 AM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas
prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...



What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.


"Found a credit card receipt for "regular grade" gasoline I bought in
June, 2001.

$1.349 a gallon at an Exxon station in Alexandria, Virginia.

I paid $2.09 yesterday for regular at Exxon.
That's what...about a 55% increase in three years, or about 18% a year
since Bush assumed office.

Thanks, Dubya."

-- Harry Krause, rec.boats, May 22 2004, 7:25 am



So I guess the moral of the story is that HK is also a "simple-minded
little troll", and part "of the "fear-mongered" masses."


Understanding what you read is not your forté, eh?

I never said that Bush was responsible for the increase. I just pointed
out that "regular grade" gasoline prices went up when Bush was in office.

Under the current administration they've gone up only 30% in three
years, or about 10% a year since he assumed office.

Thanks, Obama


Haven't gone up that much here.

But then Canadian currency isn't being as actively depreciated as is the
USD. All this Obama-DC debt is quite literally now being passed on to
people as inflation.

Last weeks efforts by congress told the world that Washington DC is a
delinquent debtor printing money out of control. The effort was far too
little, far too late and a joke really.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Canuck57[_9_] April 20th 11 06:15 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 20/04/2011 5:36 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...



What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?


The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


BS. Truth is Saudi are maxed out with declining reserves, to expand the
reserves means drilling more expensive and deeper wells than before.
Well managed low debt economies like China, India and Brazil are doing
well...

Just BS to try to get the markets to cool off isn't going to work. As
it ignores two huge facts. First is supply is tight and second the USD
is loosing value.

Prices will go up relative to the USD. But relative to gold, silver,
copper, lithium, flour -- oil is the same price.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Canuck57[_9_] April 20th 11 06:16 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 20/04/2011 5:47 AM, Harryk wrote:
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas
prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?


The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?



The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.


THey you should speculate and buy some....oh wait, you are on social
assistance. Maybe you should ask Obama to pay that in gold or oil?
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Canuck57[_9_] April 20th 11 06:19 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 20/04/2011 6:22 AM, Harryk wrote:
BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas
prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are
determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in
jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied.
The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.


What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?



If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.


Funny. I ws born on the poor side of the tracks. 4 kids, single mom,
no money. Put myself through school, no loans... now self made.

But then, I didn't spend my time whining and complaining, I spent it
educating myself and working hard/smart.

Now whiners like you are just envious slugs a still whining. Whine on,
it is what you do best. But pay up or walk.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Canuck57[_9_] April 20th 11 06:24 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 20/04/2011 6:32 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlenoidnQ4SZq2STTPQnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.

What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?



If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.


So, inother words.. you just said it, you have not basis or solution....


There is, invest in oil. So as oil goes up, so does the stock and them
juicy dividends.

People need to stop thinking of currency as having some immutable value.
Currency is just like a stock in every respect. Government prints too
much, it dilutes in value. Government ponzi tax fraud really. And you
can't protect your wealth without realizing it.

Once diluted, people want more of it to compensate for their needs.

Fleabaggers cannot change this. So they just print more money to make
it worse.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Canuck57[_9_] April 20th 11 06:27 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 20/04/2011 6:38 AM, OmDeFlume wrote:
On 4/20/2011 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
*In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...*

BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas
prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are
determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in
jeopardy?

The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied.
The
price should drop. The questions is will it?



*The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.*


What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?


More evidence that Krause is a fripping idiot.


No argument there. Bet he wishes he bought COP at under $50. Oh wait,
he is a broke in debt type.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Harryk April 20th 11 06:59 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
Canuck57 wrote:

Funny. I ws born on the poor side of the tracks. 4 kids, single mom, no
money. Put myself through school, no loans... now self made.

But then, I didn't spend my time whining and complaining, I spent it
educating myself and working hard/smart.

Now whiners like you are just envious slugs a still whining. Whine on,
it is what you do best. But pay up or walk.


There's no evidence here you "educated" yourself. You're barely on the
literate side of the tracks. You spout the same hysterical financial
blather you can find on any right-wing nutcase financial site. You're a
gold bug without any gold assets, not even the gold-buggers lapel pin.

Why would anyone envy you? Because you have a Ford pickup truck? Big whoop.


Harryk April 20th 11 07:05 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 07:47:18 -0400,
wrote:

BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.


The best control on unreasonable speculation is the market. When these
guys get stuck with contracts that they have committed to and are
significantly higher than the spot price of oil the bubble will pop.
How long that takes to be reflected in gas prices is the variable but
you also have speculation in gasoline itself. Like any commodity,
these transactions are usually highly leveraged so things can happen
pretty fast. What motorists will do, is to slow down discretionary
usage and it doesn't take a lot of demand shift to make speculators
lose their ass because of this leverage. A little fear can drive the
market a lot more than a bunch of regulation.
These days, with the ethanol, gasoline is as perishable as some
produce.They only have about 90 days from refinery to carburetor
before it starts to spoil.



1. There's something about petrol speculators losing their ass that I
find appealing.

2. I doubt the gasoline deterioration problem is as bad as you describe.
When I parked my lawn tractor in the garage last November, the fuel tank
was about half full. I cranked the tractor up the other day. Started on
the first turn of the key, in about 15 seconds, and I mowed the lawn
without incident. This gas was bought about 15 November. It's at least
five months old. I shook up my one gallon can of two cycle mix and used
it to start up the chainsaw and string trimmer. Same vintage gas. No
problems.

Canuck57[_9_] April 20th 11 07:36 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 20/04/2011 10:52 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 07:47:18 -0400,
wrote:

BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...


What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?

The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?



The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.


The best control on unreasonable speculation is the market. When these
guys get stuck with contracts that they have committed to and are
significantly higher than the spot price of oil the bubble will pop.
How long that takes to be reflected in gas prices is the variable but
you also have speculation in gasoline itself. Like any commodity,
these transactions are usually highly leveraged so things can happen
pretty fast. What motorists will do, is to slow down discretionary
usage and it doesn't take a lot of demand shift to make speculators
lose their ass because of this leverage. A little fear can drive the
market a lot more than a bunch of regulation.
These days, with the ethanol, gasoline is as perishable as some
produce.They only have about 90 days from refinery to carburetor
before it starts to spoil.


Speculator manipulation does not last long. As you say, if a speculator
inlfates and the bubble pops then they lose money. Same with fear, in a
short time the market returns. Hey, if I had a $50/barrel oil tap I
would have it wide open right now.

I was actually in the oil well logging business from 1980-1983. No
shortage of oil exists, just a shortage of cash to get it.

And the anti is up, take BP. To now drill you would want a $20 billion
reserve or insurance. Every penny gets added to the costs.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Canuck57[_9_] April 20th 11 07:39 PM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 20/04/2011 11:05 AM, Harryk wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 07:47:18 -0400,
wrote:

BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas
prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are
determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in
jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied.
The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.


The best control on unreasonable speculation is the market. When these
guys get stuck with contracts that they have committed to and are
significantly higher than the spot price of oil the bubble will pop.
How long that takes to be reflected in gas prices is the variable but
you also have speculation in gasoline itself. Like any commodity,
these transactions are usually highly leveraged so things can happen
pretty fast. What motorists will do, is to slow down discretionary
usage and it doesn't take a lot of demand shift to make speculators
lose their ass because of this leverage. A little fear can drive the
market a lot more than a bunch of regulation.
These days, with the ethanol, gasoline is as perishable as some
produce.They only have about 90 days from refinery to carburetor
before it starts to spoil.



1. There's something about petrol speculators losing their ass that I
find appealing.

2. I doubt the gasoline deterioration problem is as bad as you describe.
When I parked my lawn tractor in the garage last November, the fuel tank
was about half full. I cranked the tractor up the other day. Started on
the first turn of the key, in about 15 seconds, and I mowed the lawn
without incident. This gas was bought about 15 November. It's at least
five months old. I shook up my one gallon can of two cycle mix and used
it to start up the chainsaw and string trimmer. Same vintage gas. No
problems.


Someting I find appealing is listening to fleabagger whiner welshers
like yourself complain about the inevitable. Like you can change reality.

He is actually right. Ethanol fuels deteriorate faster and separate out.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

BAR[_2_] April 21st 11 02:04 AM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.


What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?



If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.


The problems is not free markets. The problem is whiners.

Why are we giving money to Brazil to develop their off-shore oil fields?

Why are we giving money to Columbia to develop an oil refinery?

We should be developing our own oil field's and our own refinery's. This
is an issue of US national security and sovereignty.

BAR[_2_] April 21st 11 02:16 AM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

Obviously, you don't have the ability to understand what you read. I was
discussing what the European common market countries were doing in terms
of commodity speculation and possible ways to curtail it. That has
nothing to do with the DNC.

The other day you made another of your idiotic comments, regarding one
of Obama's two supreme court nominees.

It's not up to me to decide how to curtail commodity speculation, bozo.
All you are accomplishing here is proving that you really are an
uneducated, unknowing automaton of the really stupid right, a teahadist
birther. You're being used, little man, and you're not even aware of it.


http://www.opec.org

http://www.opec.org/opec_web/en/about_us/25.htm

I don't see any European counties on that list of member companies.
Neither is Canada or the USA on the list of member companies.

http://www.opec.org/opec_web/en/about_us/23.htm

Says nothing about being nice to the European commodity markets.


I_am_Tosk April 21st 11 03:00 AM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
In article ,
says...

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.

What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?



If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.


The problems is not free markets. The problem is whiners.

Why are we giving money to Brazil to develop their off-shore oil fields?

Why are we giving money to Columbia to develop an oil refinery?

We should be developing our own oil field's and our own refinery's. This
is an issue of US national security and sovereignty.


This post will not be addressed, with anything but name calling and made
up talking points..

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Canuck57[_9_] April 21st 11 03:02 AM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On 20/04/2011 6:04 PM, BAR wrote:
In articlenoidnQ4SZq2STTPQnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.

What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?



If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.


The problems is not free markets. The problem is whiners.

Why are we giving money to Brazil to develop their off-shore oil fields?

Why are we giving money to Columbia to develop an oil refinery?

We should be developing our own oil field's and our own refinery's. This
is an issue of US national security and sovereignty.


It isn't economical to build more of it into the USA. Taxes, whiners,
unions, stupid politicians, corrupt management, excessive costs...screw
it. Refine it elsewhere as the plastics go to China where they build
things.

As for sovereignty, can't have sovereignty when your $14.5 trillion in
debt (state/city/county extra). That is like saying you own a home with
a 110% mortgage on it.

But Obama closed down your drilling a year ago or so.

I think you and I are near the same page, but it isn't as simple as
fleabaggers think. The government needs a major shakedown, every
department bar none needs to be justified, axed and trimmed by at least
$1.7 trillion per year or USA economic futures are that of third world
status. Just might take a decade to really get that far.


--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

[email protected] April 21st 11 08:08 AM

$1.87 per gallon...
 
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:04:43 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , payer3389
says...

BAR wrote:
In articleobudnXJyJOFaWjPQnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:
In articlejYWdneirypkx4zDQnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
I_am_Tosk wrote:
That's what gas prices were the day Barak Obama took the Whitehouse.
Pelosi promised the "first" thing she would address would be gas prices.

They have done nothing but shift a bunch of food into dollars for
Chicago ethanol speculators and refiners, this of course will be a
disaster...

What a simple-minded little troll you are. Fuel prices are determined by
speculators who depend upon fear-mongering. You're one of the
"fear-mongered" masses.

What's your problem? Is the kiddie motorbike racing season in jeopardy?
The Saudi's have come out and said that the market is over supplied. The
price should drop. The questions is will it?


The market, which is for all intents and purposes, unregulated, is
controlled by speculators, not by supply and demand. We. of course, let
the speculators do this, instead of standing up to them and forcing
changes in the way that part of the petrol business is run.

What is your plan to enforce changes in an international commodities
market?

How is the US a net purchaser of oil going to change the oil market?



If you are interested, there are plenty of articles available on how and
why the European common market partners are discussing commodity
regulation. They are struggling with it, especially the French, but more
commodity regulation is in the cards.

The era of "free markets" is ending, Bertie. All "free markets" have
done for the last few generations is make the rich richer and the middle
class and poor poorer. Unsustainable. Sorry.


The problems is not free markets. The problem is whiners.

Why are we giving money to Brazil to develop their off-shore oil fields?

Why are we giving money to Columbia to develop an oil refinery?

We should be developing our own oil field's and our own refinery's. This
is an issue of US national security and sovereignty.


I guess you've never heard of Texas.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/refineries.htm

TopBassDog April 21st 11 10:14 AM

$1.87 per gallon...
 

wrote:


I guess you've never heard of Texas.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/refineries.htm


You mean, the state that you and Krause love to hate, D'Plume. He was
talking about drilling; not refining. You need to have your ADHD
checked when you go to the Doctor.


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