On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:13:45 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

You're such an apologist for the big business private sector, Wayne. And
what has that sector done for us the last 25 years or so? It's helped
destroy the middle class and make the wealthy class wealthier.

That's more liberal/socialist hog wash. It is true that I support the
free enterprise system. It has served the country well since its
inception and has served most of us well. Free enterprise is still
arguably better than any of the alternatives.

And who says the middle class has been destroyed? That's more hog
wash. I'm middle class as are most of my friends and neighbors. The
value of our homes has gone down but everyone except the highly
leveraged are doing just fine. In my opinion most of the highly
leveraged got greedy and ignored the facts.

Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:13:45 -0400,
wrote:

You're such an apologist for the big business private sector, Wayne. And
what has that sector done for us the last 25 years or so? It's helped
destroy the middle class and make the wealthy class wealthier.

That's more liberal/socialist hog wash. It is true that I support the
free enterprise system. It has served the country well since its
inception and has served most of us well. Free enterprise is still
arguably better than any of the alternatives.

And who says the middle class has been destroyed? That's more hog
wash. I'm middle class as are most of my friends and neighbors. The
value of our homes has gone down but everyone except the highly
leveraged are doing just fine. In my opinion most of the highly
leveraged got greedy and ignored the facts.


The social contract that emerged out of the Great Depression and built
the middle class is pretty much dead, and your party wants to bury it in
its casket. The modern conservative interpretation of the free
enterprise system no longer serves the middle class or those trying to
get into the middle class.

I do love your claim about being "middle class," though. It's quite a
chuckle.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:17:31 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

I do love your claim about being "middle class," though. It's quite a
chuckle.

Please explain the humor. We're about as middle class as you can
get.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:35:29 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:17:31 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

I do love your claim about being "middle class," though. It's quite a
chuckle.

Please explain the humor. We're about as middle class as you can
get.

Really? How big is that trawler of yours? You're on perpetual vacation
aren't you? If that's middle class, I'm sure a lot of people would
love to sign up.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:19:58 -0700, wrote:

Really? How big is that trawler of yours? You're on perpetual vacation
aren't you? If that's middle class, I'm sure a lot of people would
love to sign up.

The trawler is our second home. Having a second home is something of
a middle class tradition where I come from.

Perpetual vacation? That's called retirement by most people. I'm
not really retired however. My new occupations are investment
management and boat maintenance work. :-)

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 04:00:01 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:19:58 -0700, wrote:

Really? How big is that trawler of yours? You're on perpetual vacation
aren't you? If that's middle class, I'm sure a lot of people would
love to sign up.

The trawler is our second home. Having a second home is something of
a middle class tradition where I come from.

Perpetual vacation? That's called retirement by most people. I'm
not really retired however. My new occupations are investment
management and boat maintenance work. :-)

A second home... one of which is a gas hog. Wow... where I come from,
and where most people come from, they only have one home, and if
they're lucky they can make the mortgage payments.

For most people, retirement means living simply and cutting back on
most of the extras.

Sounds to me like you're delusional if you think what you have is
middle class.

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:59:21 -0700, wrote:

A second home... one of which is a gas hog. Wow... where I come from,
and where most people come from, they only have one home, and if
they're lucky they can make the mortgage payments.

Anyone living from paycheck to paycheck is not truly middle class.

Middle class is not just about money. It's more about values,
managing what you have, and saving/investing for the future.

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:59:21 -0700, sent the
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 04:00:01 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:


On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:19:58 -0700, wrote:

Really? How big is that trawler of yours? You're on perpetual
vacation
aren't you? If that's middle class, I'm sure a lot of people would
love to sign up.

The trawler is our second home. Having a second home is
something of
a middle class tradition where I come from.

Perpetual vacation? That's called retirement by most people. I'm
not really retired however. My new occupations are investment
management and boat maintenance work. :-)


A second home... one of which is a gas hog. Wow... where I come
from,
and where most people come from, they only have one home, and if
they're lucky they can make the mortgage payments.


For most people, retirement means living simply and cutting back on
most of the extras.


Sounds to me like you're delusional if you think what you have is
middle class.

Sounds like you need to set your sights a little higher, bud.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:54:43 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:13:45 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

You're such an apologist for the big business private sector, Wayne. And
what has that sector done for us the last 25 years or so? It's helped
destroy the middle class and make the wealthy class wealthier.

That's more liberal/socialist hog wash. It is true that I support the
free enterprise system. It has served the country well since its
inception and has served most of us well. Free enterprise is still
arguably better than any of the alternatives.

I wonder how far your "support" for free enterprise goes. Apparently,
it goes further than your support for those less fortunately, since
they surely have not and will not benefit from the destructive nature
of the private insurance companies and other huge corporations
motivated by nothing more than self-interest and profit.

And who says the middle class has been destroyed? That's more hog
wash. I'm middle class as are most of my friends and neighbors. The
value of our homes has gone down but everyone except the highly
leveraged are doing just fine. In my opinion most of the highly
leveraged got greedy and ignored the facts.

In your opinion... you've got yours and to hell with everyone else,
apparently. I guess you haven't been watching or don't care about the
news of the millions of people who've been financially destroyed.