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Wayne B April 19th 11 04:46 AM

Financing healthcare
 
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:55:40 -0700, wrote:

How about you get off your high horse. It doesn't become you. How
about those falling out of their homes? How about those people who now
have to choose between paying their bills, buying their meds, or
feeding their children. You don't really care do you.


It's not about caring, it's about your definition of middle class, and
as a secondary issue, what is the proper role of government,
especially the federal government.

It is very easy to be empathetic with someone else's money. The end
of socialism is when there is no one left to pick up the tab. That
day may be closer than you think.


OmDeFlume April 19th 11 12:48 PM

Financing healthcare
 
On 4/18/2011 10:23 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:52:20 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:22:52 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:59:21 -0700,
wrote:

A second home... one of which is a gas hog. Wow... where I come from,
and where most people come from, they only have one home, and if
they're lucky they can make the mortgage payments.

Anyone living from paycheck to paycheck is not truly middle class.

Middle class is not just about money. It's more about values,
managing what you have, and saving/investing for the future.


Most people, the vast majority of people who live paycheck to paycheck
are absolutely middle class no matter what "your" definition might be.

Your "values" seem to be you've got yours, so screw everyone else.
Most people who consider themselves middle class manage what they have
and try an invest in the future. These days many of them don't succeed
and are being throw under the bus by the right wing.


More socialist BS from my favorite parrot. Please define middle class
for us. Hint: Aspiring to middle class does not count.

Could it be that DePlume isn't the rich bitch she fancys herself to be?
Likely she is a meter reader as she reported in one of her "Jessica"
moments.

[email protected] April 19th 11 05:44 PM

Financing healthcare
 
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:24:29 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:55:40 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:23:00 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:52:20 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:22:52 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:59:21 -0700,
wrote:

A second home... one of which is a gas hog. Wow... where I come from,
and where most people come from, they only have one home, and if
they're lucky they can make the mortgage payments.

Anyone living from paycheck to paycheck is not truly middle class.

Middle class is not just about money. It's more about values,
managing what you have, and saving/investing for the future.

Most people, the vast majority of people who live paycheck to paycheck
are absolutely middle class no matter what "your" definition might be.

Your "values" seem to be you've got yours, so screw everyone else.
Most people who consider themselves middle class manage what they have
and try an invest in the future. These days many of them don't succeed
and are being throw under the bus by the right wing.

More socialist BS from my favorite parrot. Please define middle class
for us. Hint: Aspiring to middle class does not count.


How about you get off your high horse. It doesn't become you. How
about those falling out of their homes? How about those people who now
have to choose between paying their bills, buying their meds, or
feeding their children. You don't really care do you.


Anyone with a net worth of zero or some negative number might be the
salt of the earth but they are clearly not middle class unless you
want to call your Mexican landscaper middle class.


Which has nothing to do with the subject of Wayne supposing he isn't
well beyond the typical middle class person. He might not be rich by a
billionaire's view, but he certainly isn't scraping to keep his house
and his fine yacht.

In reality he probably does have a positive net worth on his $12 an
hour salary. Anglos should learn something from our latino residents.

Maybe that is the problem. We have decided people's wealth is measured
by their credit line and not what they actually own. You brag about
how much money you make, are you saying you can't afford 2
refrigerators? Weren't you talking about buying a quarter of a million
dollar boat a while ago?


Maybe you just hate people who aren't as smart as you? I don't think
I've ever heard anyone brag about their modest home.

Please show me where I ever said I considered myself "middle class"
regarding income. I've never "bragged" about anything. That's just
lying on your part. Actually, the boat we're now contemplating is a
bit more than that, but it's clear that your only purpose is to win
some imaginary point rather than have a discussion about actual facts.

[email protected] April 19th 11 05:46 PM

Financing healthcare
 
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:46:36 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:55:40 -0700, wrote:

How about you get off your high horse. It doesn't become you. How
about those falling out of their homes? How about those people who now
have to choose between paying their bills, buying their meds, or
feeding their children. You don't really care do you.


It's not about caring, it's about your definition of middle class, and
as a secondary issue, what is the proper role of government,
especially the federal government.

It is very easy to be empathetic with someone else's money. The end
of socialism is when there is no one left to pick up the tab. That
day may be closer than you think.


Actually, it is about caring. The proper role of gov't is all about
caring or not caring about its citizens.

You keep touting this "socialism" thing, when in reality we mostly
live in a socialistic society. Too bad you don't like it. Move to
Liberia.

Wayne B April 19th 11 10:22 PM

Financing healthcare
 
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:46:20 -0700, wrote:

Actually, it is about caring. The proper role of gov't is all about
caring or not caring about its citizens.


Actually not unless you consider safety, law and order to be "caring".

I don't.


Harryk April 19th 11 10:29 PM

Financing healthcare
 
Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:46:20 -0700, wrote:

Actually, it is about caring. The proper role of gov't is all about
caring or not caring about its citizens.


Actually not unless you consider safety, law and order to be "caring".

I don't.



How very right-wing asshole-ish of you, w'hine.

BTW. the Middle Class Club is revoking your imaginary membership. You're
too much of a pimp for corporatism, and corporatism is the enemy of the
middle class.



Percy April 19th 11 11:26 PM

Financing healthcare
 
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:59:21 -0700, sent the
following message
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 04:00:01 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:



On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:19:58 -0700,
wrote:

Really? How big is that trawler of yours? You're on perpetual

vacation
aren't you? If that's middle class, I'm sure a lot of people would
love to sign up.


The trawler is our second home. Having a second home is

something of
a middle class tradition where I come from.

Perpetual vacation? That's called retirement by most people. I'm
not really retired however. My new occupations are investment
management and boat maintenance work. :-)



A second home... one of which is a gas hog. Wow... where I come

from,
and where most people come from, they only have one home, and if
they're lucky they can make the mortgage payments.



For most people, retirement means living simply and cutting back on
most of the extras.



Sounds to me like you're delusional if you think what you have is
middle class.


Sounds like you need to set your sights a little higher, bud.

Percy April 19th 11 11:32 PM

Financing healthcare
 
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:24:29 -0400, sent the
following message
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:55:40 -0700,
wrote:


On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:23:00 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:52:20 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:22:52 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:59:21 -0700,
wrote:

A second home... one of which is a gas hog. Wow... where I

come from,
and where most people come from, they only have one home, and

if
they're lucky they can make the mortgage payments.

Anyone living from paycheck to paycheck is not truly middle

class.

Middle class is not just about money. It's more about values,
managing what you have, and saving/investing for the future.

Most people, the vast majority of people who live paycheck to

paycheck
are absolutely middle class no matter what "your" definition

might be.

Your "values" seem to be you've got yours, so screw everyone

else.
Most people who consider themselves middle class manage what

they have
and try an invest in the future. These days many of them don't

succeed
and are being throw under the bus by the right wing.

More socialist BS from my favorite parrot. Please define middle

class
for us. Hint: Aspiring to middle class does not count.


How about you get off your high horse. It doesn't become you. How
about those falling out of their homes? How about those people who

now
have to choose between paying their bills, buying their meds, or
feeding their children. You don't really care do you.



Anyone with a net worth of zero or some negative number might be the
salt of the earth but they are clearly not middle class unless you
want to call your Mexican landscaper middle class.



In reality he probably does have a positive net worth on his $12 an
hour salary. Anglos should learn something from our latino

residents.


Maybe that is the problem. We have decided people's wealth is

measured
by their credit line and not what they actually own. You brag about
how much money you make, are you saying you can't afford 2
refrigerators? Weren't you talking about buying a quarter of a

million
dollar boat a while ago?


That guy you are argueing with whines like a girl. I've noticed a few
other posters here, with similar traits.

[email protected] April 19th 11 11:51 PM

Financing healthcare
 
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:22:17 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:46:20 -0700, wrote:

Actually, it is about caring. The proper role of gov't is all about
caring or not caring about its citizens.


Actually not unless you consider safety, law and order to be "caring".

I don't.


Actually, this country was founded on the principle of gov't having
the best interests of its citizens in mind. No corp is interested in
that. We know you don't care.


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