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Frogwatch[_2_] April 8th 11 10:50 PM

Dems had their chance
 
Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.

I_am_Tosk April 8th 11 10:59 PM

Dems had their chance
 
In article 2642d728-15ac-4c42-a215-f19fd927e489
@m7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com, says...

Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.


Well, they are still using the budget as an election tool. Each and
every one wants to shut down government as they all feel it will "help
them in the next election". And afterall, with the dems, it's always
about the next election, never the people they represent. That's why we
are in the fix we are in now. Really not as much Obama, as Pelosi, Reid,
Frank, Dodd, and Kerry...

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Harryk April 8th 11 11:04 PM

Dems had their chance
 
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article2642d728-15ac-4c42-a215-f19fd927e489
@m7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com, says...
Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.


Well, they are still using the budget as an election tool. Each and
every one wants to shut down government as they all feel it will "help
them in the next election". And afterall, with the dems, it's always
about the next election, never the people they represent. That's why we
are in the fix we are in now. Really not as much Obama, as Pelosi, Reid,
Frank, Dodd, and Kerry...


Ahh, we've now heard from two of the craziest guys here on the impending
shutdown.

:)

Right now, the Repubs are trying to use the issue to push a social
agenda, and that agenda is aimed squarely at women. This will be a
terrific election issue for the Dems to push.

bob April 8th 11 11:21 PM

Dems had their chance
 
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.


gee. the GOP controls the house

where's their budget?

Canuck57[_9_] April 9th 11 12:15 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On 08/04/2011 3:50 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.


Yep. How do you say to all Americans, "We are hopelessly broke!".

Seems to me if congress and the senate had any principles at all they
would balance the budget right off. Goes for either party, left or
right. Gets tiring looking at debt welsher debt addicted denialists
putting on a BS show for the stupid and the corrupt.

Bottom line, someone has to say out load and on TV "Hey, maybe we should
cut spending and pay our bills with real money so our grand kids have a
future?"

Canuck57[_9_] April 9th 11 12:17 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On 08/04/2011 3:59 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article2642d728-15ac-4c42-a215-f19fd927e489
@m7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com, says...

Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.


Well, they are still using the budget as an election tool. Each and
every one wants to shut down government as they all feel it will "help
them in the next election". And afterall, with the dems, it's always
about the next election, never the people they represent. That's why we
are in the fix we are in now. Really not as much Obama, as Pelosi, Reid,
Frank, Dodd, and Kerry...


Agreed. As from what I hear the amount of the cuts is a freaking joke.

Obama, Pelosi and others, just debt welshers and fraudsters. Need to
shut down the monopoly money presses.

bob April 9th 11 12:23 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:17:50 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 3:59 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article2642d728-15ac-4c42-a215-f19fd927e489
@m7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com, says...

Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.


Well, they are still using the budget as an election tool. Each and
every one wants to shut down government as they all feel it will "help
them in the next election". And afterall, with the dems, it's always
about the next election, never the people they represent. That's why we
are in the fix we are in now. Really not as much Obama, as Pelosi, Reid,
Frank, Dodd, and Kerry...


Agreed. As from what I hear the amount of the cuts is a freaking joke.

Obama, Pelosi and others, just debt welshers and fraudsters. Need to
shut down the monopoly money presses.


let's see...the house controls the budget

he's right. the amount they want to cut is a joke

the house in controlled by the GOP but he blames obama

do we need any more proof he hates obama cuz he's black?

bob April 9th 11 12:23 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:15:40 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 3:50 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.


Yep. How do you say to all Americans, "We are hopelessly broke!".

Seems to me if congress and the senate had any principles at all they
would balance the budget right off.


how?

care to tell us?

betcha you cant

Canuck57[_9_] April 9th 11 12:24 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On 08/04/2011 4:04 PM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article2642d728-15ac-4c42-a215-f19fd927e489
@m7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com, says...
Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.


Well, they are still using the budget as an election tool. Each and
every one wants to shut down government as they all feel it will "help
them in the next election". And afterall, with the dems, it's always
about the next election, never the people they represent. That's why we
are in the fix we are in now. Really not as much Obama, as Pelosi, Reid,
Frank, Dodd, and Kerry...


Ahh, we've now heard from two of the craziest guys here on the impending
shutdown.

:)

Right now, the Repubs are trying to use the issue to push a social
agenda, and that agenda is aimed squarely at women. This will be a
terrific election issue for the Dems to push.


Ya, that part sucks. But cutting the budget part, I like. Women, men,
should not mater a damn. Equality is equality. There should not be a
single religious, sexist or racist program in government. Race should
be struck form all documents as it his BS. Just defund all such horse sh1t.

After that, woman has a right to he own body, and a bunch of drunk
representatives, mostly men should keep their noses out of a womans
insides. Those decisions belong to the woman, her licensed doctor and
whichever god she believes in. The rest are just cheap snipes that are
nosy, often noisy and disrespectful of others.

What a mess. All these over paid idiots and total chaos.

Shut them down.


Canuck57[_9_] April 9th 11 12:27 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On 08/04/2011 4:21 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.


gee. the GOP controls the house

where's their budget?


They want spending cuts. Democritiers want more debt. Got the picture?

My fear is GOP isn't going to cut deep enough, maybe a 70B feel good.
They need at least a trillion. But a good move would be just to say do
what the hell you want, but no more debt and no more central bank ponzi
fraud money creation. Balanced budget or you are shut down.

bob April 9th 11 12:48 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:27:23 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 4:21 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.


gee. the GOP controls the house

where's their budget?


They want spending cuts. Democritiers want more debt. Got the picture?


they have control of congress

they dont need the dems

get the picture?


My fear is GOP isn't going to cut deep enough, maybe a 70B feel good.
They need at least a trillion. But a good move would be just to say do
what the hell you want, but no more debt and no more central bank ponzi
fraud money creation. Balanced budget or you are shut down.


htey need at least a trillion

'other than that, mrs lincoln, how did you like the play?'

uh huh



Canuck57[_9_] April 9th 11 02:28 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On 08/04/2011 5:23 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:17:50 -0600,
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 3:59 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article2642d728-15ac-4c42-a215-f19fd927e489
@m7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com, says...

Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.

Well, they are still using the budget as an election tool. Each and
every one wants to shut down government as they all feel it will "help
them in the next election". And afterall, with the dems, it's always
about the next election, never the people they represent. That's why we
are in the fix we are in now. Really not as much Obama, as Pelosi, Reid,
Frank, Dodd, and Kerry...


Agreed. As from what I hear the amount of the cuts is a freaking joke.

Obama, Pelosi and others, just debt welshers and fraudsters. Need to
shut down the monopoly money presses.


let's see...the house controls the budget

he's right. the amount they want to cut is a joke

the house in controlled by the GOP but he blames obama

do we need any more proof he hates obama cuz he's black?


Hey, I blame them all, but the man at the top I am supposed to ignore
because he is black? Do you hear yourself think?

Canuck57[_9_] April 9th 11 02:30 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On 08/04/2011 5:48 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:27:23 -0600,
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 4:21 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.

gee. the GOP controls the house

where's their budget?


They want spending cuts. Democritiers want more debt. Got the picture?


they have control of congress

they dont need the dems

get the picture?


My fear is GOP isn't going to cut deep enough, maybe a 70B feel good.
They need at least a trillion. But a good move would be just to say do
what the hell you want, but no more debt and no more central bank ponzi
fraud money creation. Balanced budget or you are shut down.


htey need at least a trillion

'other than that, mrs lincoln, how did you like the play?'

uh huh


Well they still have to hear them out, wait for them to scratch their
ass and snort. In time it will pass...

But that is congress. It also has to do democriter senate. Which is
where the problem is.

I say just shut them down and wait until the senate wants to wake the
freak up.

bob April 9th 11 02:34 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:28:30 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 5:23 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:17:50 -0600,
wrote:

let's see...the house controls the budget

he's right. the amount they want to cut is a joke

the house in controlled by the GOP but he blames obama

do we need any more proof he hates obama cuz he's black?


Hey, I blame them all, but the man at the top I am supposed to ignore
because he is black? Do you hear yourself think?


you blame obama for what bush caused and you say ZIP about bush

no doubt because of your racist hatred of blacks


bob April 9th 11 02:35 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:30:31 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 5:48 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:27:23 -0600,
wrote:


My fear is GOP isn't going to cut deep enough, maybe a 70B feel good.
They need at least a trillion. But a good move would be just to say do
what the hell you want, but no more debt and no more central bank ponzi
fraud money creation. Balanced budget or you are shut down.


htey need at least a trillion

'other than that, mrs lincoln, how did you like the play?'

uh huh


Well they still have to hear them out, wait for them to scratch their
ass and snort. In time it will pass...


well let's see. he SHRIEKS that a TRILLION has to be cut

when asked for SPECIFICS he shucks and jives

typical right winger


Canuck57[_9_] April 9th 11 03:51 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On 08/04/2011 7:35 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:30:31 -0600,
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 5:48 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:27:23 -0600,
wrote:


My fear is GOP isn't going to cut deep enough, maybe a 70B feel good.
They need at least a trillion. But a good move would be just to say do
what the hell you want, but no more debt and no more central bank ponzi
fraud money creation. Balanced budget or you are shut down.

htey need at least a trillion

'other than that, mrs lincoln, how did you like the play?'

uh huh


Well they still have to hear them out, wait for them to scratch their
ass and snort. In time it will pass...


well let's see. he SHRIEKS that a TRILLION has to be cut

when asked for SPECIFICS he shucks and jives

typical right winger



Actually, at least $1.6 trillion needs to be cut. Less than a trillion
is a joke. Means he idiots are not serious. If the result of this is a
stupid $70B savings, USA is a write off as that is chicken sh!t for what
cuts they need to do.

bob April 9th 11 11:38 AM

Dems had their chance
 
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 20:51:11 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 7:35 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:30:31 -0600,
wrote:
Well they still have to hear them out, wait for them to scratch their
ass and snort. In time it will pass...


well let's see. he SHRIEKS that a TRILLION has to be cut

when asked for SPECIFICS he shucks and jives

typical right winger



Actually, at least $1.6 trillion needs to be cut. Less than a trillion
is a joke. Means he idiots are not serious. If the result of this is a
stupid $70B savings, USA is a write off as that is chicken sh!t for what
cuts they need to do.


like i said he SHRIEKS that obama's a socialist because he doesnt cut
the budget

but even HE cant tell us where he'd cut

maybe canuck is a socialist


Canuck57[_9_] April 9th 11 04:56 PM

Dems had their chance
 
On 09/04/2011 4:38 AM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 20:51:11 -0600,
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 7:35 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:30:31 -0600,
wrote:
Well they still have to hear them out, wait for them to scratch their
ass and snort. In time it will pass...

well let's see. he SHRIEKS that a TRILLION has to be cut

when asked for SPECIFICS he shucks and jives

typical right winger



Actually, at least $1.6 trillion needs to be cut. Less than a trillion
is a joke. Means he idiots are not serious. If the result of this is a
stupid $70B savings, USA is a write off as that is chicken sh!t for what
cuts they need to do.


like i said he SHRIEKS that obama's a socialist because he doesnt cut
the budget

but even HE cant tell us where he'd cut

maybe canuck is a socialist


Actually, 8 years ago I was asked if GM was too big to fail. I said no
that they could fail. And peers told me they were to big to fail and
kept their bonds. Well, GM went bankrupt. I have been asked is USA too
big to fail and I said no, they are failing, just a bit at a time.

In a nutshell, USA is now in my books an officially bankrupt country.
It can no longer service its debts with real money, it must like
Monopoly print 1/2 of its entire spending as it is insolvent. No one,
not even its own people will now lend new money to government as it is
insane to do so. USA is running on bu!!sh!t.

When the market figures this out, the US dollar will devalue at a rapid
rate. Just like it has with any other country that has tried the
print-tax-debt-spend. Oil isn't going up, the value of your fraud money
is going down.

Not a thing boobs like you can do to change it either. Looks like the
Tea Party caved into DC bribery and corruption. DC is a debt welsher.
Just means I will buy more gold and oil and less business/jobs.

Canuck57[_9_] April 9th 11 06:06 PM

Dems had their chance
 
On 08/04/2011 3:50 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.


Ya, looks like the Tea Party also let us down. DC, just corruption.

[email protected] April 9th 11 07:02 PM

Dems had their chance
 
On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 11:06:13 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 3:50 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Dems failed to do their jobs by not producing a 2011 budget because
they were afraid of the election in 2010. Now, they are trying to be
"brave" when they face no risk. They had their chance and failed out
of cowardice, let the grownups produce the budget the dems were afraid
of.


Ya, looks like the Tea Party also let us down. DC, just corruption.


Not you. You're not part of this great country.

bob April 10th 11 01:33 PM

Dems had their chance
 
On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 09:56:27 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 09/04/2011 4:38 AM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 20:51:11 -0600,
wrote:

On 08/04/2011 7:35 PM, bob wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:30:31 -0600,
wrote:
Well they still have to hear them out, wait for them to scratch their
ass and snort. In time it will pass...

well let's see. he SHRIEKS that a TRILLION has to be cut

when asked for SPECIFICS he shucks and jives

typical right winger


Actually, at least $1.6 trillion needs to be cut. Less than a trillion
is a joke. Means he idiots are not serious. If the result of this is a
stupid $70B savings, USA is a write off as that is chicken sh!t for what
cuts they need to do.


like i said he SHRIEKS that obama's a socialist because he doesnt cut
the budget

but even HE cant tell us where he'd cut

maybe canuck is a socialist


Actually, 8 years ago I was asked if GM was too big to fail. I said no
that they could fail. And peers told me they were to big to fail and
kept their bonds. Well, GM went bankrupt. I have been asked is USA too
big to fail and I said no, they are failing, just a bit at a time.

In a nutshell, USA is now in my books an officially bankrupt country.


yep. free market fundamentalism has bankrupted the US. the weathly
engineered one of the greatest transfers of wealth from the middle
class to the wealthy. and now we're bankrupt

courtesy of america's right wing.


When the market figures this out, the US dollar will devalue at a rapid
rate. Just like it has with any other country that has tried the
print-tax-debt-spend. Oil isn't going up, the value of your fraud money
is going down.


the market?? HAHAHAHA the market is the problem! it's an out of
control freight train that has only the goal of enriching itself
rather than growing the economy


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