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On 4/26/2011 6:11 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: The only problem with that is it would crush the stock market and devalue everyone's 401 which, of course, is bull**** where's your evidence and no, it wouldnt crush 401K's because they are taxed as regular income, NOT as capital gains you dont know **** about **** do you?? If people start using other ways to invest the stock market will suffer and that makes the 401k suffer. proof? well. none. capital gains taxes are as low as they've ever been in US history how's the US economy doing? we at full employment? how's the deficit? is it low? no. it's not. and there's NO proof that supply side horse**** leads anywhere except the horse stables. it's a pile of **** invented by those who want to continue to rape the middle class and then rely on the right wing to invent a fairy tale the fact is, capital gains should be taxed as regular income. there's no reason the rich should get a free ride. i'm not a socialist and dont believe in socialism for the rich like the right wing does If you look, the big boom in the stock market started with the Clinton cut on capital gains. 1996, effective in 1997. gee. and capital gains were cut under bush which led to the greatest depression in US history since 29 so there's NO proof that right wing supply side bull**** works. none. They use the tax code to modify behavior. When you raise the tax on something, people do less of it. They drop the tax when they want you to do more of it. gee. so we have socialism for the rich and the middle class pays for it you want a good economy? high demand? cut taxes on the middle class. but the right wing OPPOSES that. I didn't say anything about the tax rate on the 401k. Read before you insult. you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything Low cap gains tax had little or nothing to do with the recession. It was greed, plain and simple. "....right wing cant right...." Talk about writing clearly! |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400, Disgruntled wrote:
On 4/26/2011 6:11 AM, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything Low cap gains tax had little or nothing to do with the recession. It was greed, plain and simple. "....right wing cant right...." Talk about writing clearly! absolutely true. the right got EVERYTHING they wanted and THIS economy is the result |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:02:44 -0400, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400, Disgruntled wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:11 AM, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything Low cap gains tax had little or nothing to do with the recession. It was greed, plain and simple. "....right wing cant right...." Talk about writing clearly! absolutely true. the right got EVERYTHING they wanted and THIS economy is the result It's not like their intentions were a secret either. I mean they've been advocating this stuff since the 1950s. |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:01:27 -0700, wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:02:44 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400, Disgruntled wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:11 AM, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything Low cap gains tax had little or nothing to do with the recession. It was greed, plain and simple. "....right wing cant right...." Talk about writing clearly! absolutely true. the right got EVERYTHING they wanted and THIS economy is the result It's not like their intentions were a secret either. I mean they've been advocating this stuff since the 1950s. what i love is that, every time they DESTROY the economy they just say it's because we didnt go far enough. you can only lose your virginity once. but the right believes in the perpetual hymen |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:12:22 -0400, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:01:27 -0700, wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:02:44 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400, Disgruntled wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:11 AM, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything Low cap gains tax had little or nothing to do with the recession. It was greed, plain and simple. "....right wing cant right...." Talk about writing clearly! absolutely true. the right got EVERYTHING they wanted and THIS economy is the result It's not like their intentions were a secret either. I mean they've been advocating this stuff since the 1950s. what i love is that, every time they DESTROY the economy they just say it's because we didnt go far enough. you can only lose your virginity once. but the right believes in the perpetual hymen LOL Maybe they need to get laid more often! |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:54:19 -0700, sent the
following message On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:12:22 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:01:27 -0700, wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:02:44 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400, Disgruntled wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:11 AM, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything Low cap gains tax had little or nothing to do with the recession. It was greed, plain and simple. "....right wing cant right...." Talk about writing clearly! absolutely true. the right got EVERYTHING they wanted and THIS economy is the result It's not like their intentions were a secret either. I mean they've been advocating this stuff since the 1950s. what i love is that, every time they DESTROY the economy they just say it's because we didnt go far enough. you can only lose your virginity once. but the right believes in the perpetual hymen LOL Maybe they need to get laid more often! You would do well to follow your own advice. |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:11:11 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: The only problem with that is it would crush the stock market and devalue everyone's 401 which, of course, is bull**** where's your evidence and no, it wouldnt crush 401K's because they are taxed as regular income, NOT as capital gains you dont know **** about **** do you?? If people start using other ways to invest the stock market will suffer and that makes the 401k suffer. proof? well. none. capital gains taxes are as low as they've ever been in US history how's the US economy doing? we at full employment? how's the deficit? is it low? The stock market is doing great. that is good for your 401k isn't it? That is all I said. the fact is, capital gains should be taxed as regular income. there's no reason the rich should get a free ride. i'm not a socialist and dont believe in socialism for the rich like the right wing does I am far from rich as are most seniors and they enjoy the lower rates on their investments. They are also the ones who VOTE If you look, the big boom in the stock market started with the Clinton cut on capital gains. 1996, effective in 1997. gee. and capital gains were cut under bush which led to the greatest depression in US history since 29 Again the stock market came out long before the general economy did. BTW do you think we should tax the gain on your house as ordinary income too? They use the tax code to modify behavior. When you raise the tax on something, people do less of it. They drop the tax when they want you to do more of it. gee. so we have socialism for the rich and the middle class pays for it you want a good economy? high demand? cut taxes on the middle class. but the right wing OPPOSES that. The middle class has the lowest tax rate since the Hoover administration. I made $100k and paid about $11,000 in income tax Reply: Bob. I am not rich, but invest for capitol gains as opposed to day trading, etc. that would be the mode if you taxed capitol gains as ordinary income. Why would I invest in a startup? If I had to gamble money, I want a better return. If I have to set on the money for 5 years, why can I not take a loss at ordinary income during those years where I was upside down? If you had invested conservatively and across the board while the economy was good you would not be crying the blues. |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:53:32 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:11:11 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: The only problem with that is it would crush the stock market and devalue everyone's 401 which, of course, is bull**** where's your evidence and no, it wouldnt crush 401K's because they are taxed as regular income, NOT as capital gains you dont know **** about **** do you?? If people start using other ways to invest the stock market will suffer and that makes the 401k suffer. proof? well. none. capital gains taxes are as low as they've ever been in US history how's the US economy doing? we at full employment? how's the deficit? is it low? The stock market is doing great. that is good for your 401k isn't it? That is all I said. the fact is, capital gains should be taxed as regular income. there's no reason the rich should get a free ride. i'm not a socialist and dont believe in socialism for the rich like the right wing does I am far from rich as are most seniors and they enjoy the lower rates on their investments. They are also the ones who VOTE If you look, the big boom in the stock market started with the Clinton cut on capital gains. 1996, effective in 1997. gee. and capital gains were cut under bush which led to the greatest depression in US history since 29 Again the stock market came out long before the general economy did. BTW do you think we should tax the gain on your house as ordinary income too? They use the tax code to modify behavior. When you raise the tax on something, people do less of it. They drop the tax when they want you to do more of it. gee. so we have socialism for the rich and the middle class pays for it you want a good economy? high demand? cut taxes on the middle class. but the right wing OPPOSES that. The middle class has the lowest tax rate since the Hoover administration. I made $100k and paid about $11,000 in income tax Reply: Bob. I am not rich, but invest for capitol gains as opposed to day trading, etc. that would be the mode if you taxed capitol gains as ordinary income. Why would I invest in a startup? If I had to gamble money, I want a better return. If I have to set on the money for 5 years, why can I not take a loss at ordinary income during those years where I was upside down? If you had invested conservatively and across the board while the economy was good you would not be crying the blues. You're not going to be investing in a startup. Feel free to continue to vote against your own best interest without really understanding the consequences. |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:13:18 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:11:11 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: ? If people start using other ways to invest the stock market will suffer and that makes the 401k suffer. proof? well. none. capital gains taxes are as low as they've ever been in US history how's the US economy doing? we at full employment? how's the deficit? is it low? The stock market is doing great. that is good for your 401k isn't it? That is all I said. let's see we're 10 trillion poorer than we were 3 years ago we have to cut defense we have to cut medicare we have to cut social security we have to raise taxes we have a record deficit do you READ the freakin' NEWS right winger?? the fact is, capital gains should be taxed as regular income. there's no reason the rich should get a free ride. i'm not a socialist and dont believe in socialism for the rich like the right wing does I am far from rich as are most seniors and they enjoy the lower rates on their investments. They are also the ones who VOTE as paul krugman said in a recent article about the right wing seniors who voted GOP and will now be gutted like fish: SUCKERS!! If you look, the big boom in the stock market started with the Clinton cut on capital gains. 1996, effective in 1997. gee. and capital gains were cut under bush which led to the greatest depression in US history since 29 Again the stock market came out long before the general economy did. BTW do you think we should tax the gain on your house as ordinary income too? i'm midde class. the middle class cant afford a tax increase AND my house, like most, is under water tax the rich. THEY ****ed this economy. do you follow the news?? They use the tax code to modify behavior. When you raise the tax on something, people do less of it. They drop the tax when they want you to do more of it. gee. so we have socialism for the rich and the middle class pays for it you want a good economy? high demand? cut taxes on the middle class. but the right wing OPPOSES that. The middle class has the lowest tax rate since the Hoover administration. I made $100k and paid about $11,000 in income tax and the rich have the lowest tax rates since 1931. AND they ****ed the economy. but you say 'let 'em do it again you're a socialist for the rich we simply cant afford your socialism any more |
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