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Shut it down and kill the parasites
On Apr 7, 3:22*pm, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/7/2011 11:04 AM, Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. *Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. *Inflation will be their means of taxation. *By this method, they will tax away the value of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay themselves and their union buddies. Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about. Any savings you have will be useless. *The dems will raise the tax rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be in that tax bracket due to inflation. Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of those who work and give it to their friends in govt. *It is time to bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary. Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your local govt bureaucrat. This is a war and wars have casualties. So Vets and SS Recipients are parasites? Why aren't there any cuts in susidies for ethanol and giant Agribusiness and no taxes for foreign or Global Corporations that make their money in America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic? No, most vets and SS recips are good people, it is the bureaucrats who are parasites. However, the mindset of relying on SS or even too much vet care is a symptom of the cancer of too much govt and this has to change. When fighting a cancer, sometimes you attack the blood vessels that feed it. In the case of the cancer riddling our govt, the blood vessels carry money and shutting off the supply of money can reduce the size of the cancer. Many of the cancer cells think they have a right to exist but being dangerous, we should not worry about what they think. If they were somewhere else, they would not be dangerous but being part of the govt makes them cancerous. Sometimes when fighting leukemia, we have to kill the entire supply of cells (in this case the bone marrow) and by analogy we may have to shut down the source of cancer cells, the govt itself and resurrect it later by an infusion of clean cells. If the cancer metastasizes, it is usually too late because it spreads throughout the entire economic body damaging every organ it encounters. In our society, this would mean that the sense of entitlement spreads sufficiently that we cannot kill it off. It requires ever more resources until the economic body dies. In some ways, our economic situation is even more dire because the cancer itself is semi-intelligent and has decided that keeping itself alive is the purpose of the rest of the body so the body becomes a slave to the parasitical cancer. Sometimes the cancer re-routes blood vessels going to legit body parts thru itself causing damage to these parts if the cancer is killed. It is time for radical therapy, shut down the flow of money that sustains the cancer and then we will have to be ever vigilant to publicly identify new outbreaks and excise them. Many “good” cells will die in the process but it is necessary for the body to survive. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On 07/04/2011 12:34 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
The dems destroyed the economy thru not reigning in Fannie mae and Freddie MAc when they were warned about the problem by the Repubs in Absolutely correct. Like GM, Fanny and Freddie -- no job, bad credit high risk, no problem we loan money for democrat votes and BS economics. Criminal actually. And the huge amount of fraud, house flipping for faked appreciation ot banks cooking up mortgage papers to hide the true creditor -- HUGE amount of organized corruption going on. And not one of the Omama-Democratic buddies in jail. The result, Freddie and Fannie are multi-trillion dollar boat anchors on taxpayers. Government should have never bought them in the first place. Legit bondholders got screwed in the nationalization of GM and Chrysler. Essentially that what happened. Creditors were denied their court time for asset recovery. Obama broke the law here, as a secured holder has the rights to the security. If a president can't honor that, then lending money in Venezuela or Cuba would be a safer bet. Which s also why the economy is tilting big. No one in their right mond lends money today. Lender gets all the risk and a value loss. Just buy oil or gold to protect against currency depreciation (inflation). The Dems gave $787 billion to Obama cronies in the "bailout". The dems have now run up so many trillions in debt that there is no reasonable way to pay it off except by massive inflation. The Dems That is the idea, deflate the value of the debt with inflation. But they didn't count on the economy collapsing and crashing. Initially it was deflaionary. But Bernake and his criminal idiots don't have a basic grip of economics You can't have inflation if people have less money -- it begets unemployment. Trouble is with Obama's 4 trillion in waste spending hitting he streets, that should be worth 50% inflation at least. ran the oil companies out of the Gulf of Mexico resulting in a doubling of gasoline costs and a huge increase in food inflation. Now, they need $150/barrel futures to cover insurance on BP style losses. Plus the capital to start back up. Huge investment in a politically unstable government. Better off in Brazil or Asia. This is our last chance to save the republic. You are optimistic. If Congrss does not cut at least a trillion of the debt-corruption spend THIS YEAR then forget saving, think preserving your wealth as Zimbabwe style is coming. In such a battle, there will be casualties. I expect them to be the poor who are suffering the most from inflation caused by Dem policies and some people who truly rely on the govt but the survival of our republic is on the line. We must hold out for extreme cuts no matter what they say. Their corruption and attempts to preserve their lavish lifestyles the working people are paying for will cause them to make up lies and invent "news". If we fail this time, the only remaining option will be revolution. Poor always suffer the most. If I lost $100K in the market I still enjoy the best and don't think twice about it. When the poor lose a job, they are screwed. Hey, I was once a working class taxed poor. The income tax system is designed to keep workers working poor. I still remember. But I held true with some very real conservative philosophies and they paid in gold. If congress doesn't ask and get a trillion dollar cut this year in debt spend, USA is washed up for a least 10 years just like 1932 to 1941. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On 4/7/2011 3:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Apr 7, 3:22 pm, Lil wrote: On 4/7/2011 11:04 AM, Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay themselves and their union buddies. Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about. Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be in that tax bracket due to inflation. Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary. Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your local govt bureaucrat. This is a war and wars have casualties. So Vets and SS Recipients are parasites? Why aren't there any cuts in susidies for ethanol and giant Agribusiness and no taxes for foreign or Global Corporations that make their money in America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic? No, most vets and SS recips are good people, it is the bureaucrats who are parasites. However, the mindset of relying on SS or even too much vet care is a symptom of the cancer of too much govt and this has to change. When fighting a cancer, sometimes you attack the blood vessels that feed it. In the case of the cancer riddling our govt, the blood vessels carry money and shutting off the supply of money can reduce the size of the cancer. Many of the cancer cells think they have a right to exist but being dangerous, we should not worry about what they think. If they were somewhere else, they would not be dangerous but being part of the govt makes them cancerous. Sometimes when fighting leukemia, we have to kill the entire supply of cells (in this case the bone marrow) and by analogy we may have to shut down the source of cancer cells, the govt itself and resurrect it later by an infusion of clean cells. If the cancer metastasizes, it is usually too late because it spreads throughout the entire economic body damaging every organ it encounters. In our society, this would mean that the sense of entitlement spreads sufficiently that we cannot kill it off. It requires ever more resources until the economic body dies. In some ways, our economic situation is even more dire because the cancer itself is semi-intelligent and has decided that keeping itself alive is the purpose of the rest of the body so the body becomes a slave to the parasitical cancer. Sometimes the cancer re-routes blood vessels going to legit body parts thru itself causing damage to these parts if the cancer is killed. It is time for radical therapy, shut down the flow of money that sustains the cancer and then we will have to be ever vigilant to publicly identify new outbreaks and excise them. Many “good” cells will die in the process but it is necessary for the body to survive. Relying on Vet care. I never thought I would be in this situation. i rely on it. I've tried to go outside. It's expensive. Insurance we thought we had decided we didn't. Huge, to us bills. Not relying on VA is not an option. Cost Effective thanks Bush. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On 07/04/2011 1:22 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/7/2011 11:04 AM, Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay themselves and their union buddies. Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about. Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be in that tax bracket due to inflation. Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary. Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your local govt bureaucrat. This is a war and wars have casualties. So Vets and SS Recipients are parasites? Why aren't there any cuts in susidies for ethanol and giant Agribusiness and no taxes for foreign or Global Corporations that make their money in America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic? No, neither are. You leftie parasite and fleabaggers always pick the groups that justify the government but ignore the majority of hangers and leaches. In fact you try to justify the whole government on 7% of the spending. Stupid. How about this huge one, that consumes more than was ever spent on SS, disabled and vets combined times 50. Freddie Mac, Fanny Mae and GMAC. Hey, no more loans to losers!!! Getting a loan isn't a right, it is an earned privilege. If you don't have a good credit score and a means to pay for it, too freaking bad. Huge trillions go wasted into these corrupt money for nothing so called banks. And 1000's of subsidies. Forget them all. Just leaches on the hind. And war manufactures, cut a trillion from the military. Funding UN covert missions in Ivory Coast, Egypt, Libya etc. is so not needed for the benefit of Americans...cancel it all. Why have 11 carriers when say 6 will due. 1 in 4 reduction in government head count. Make up the labor shortage by targeting efficiencies. Union stands in the way? Lay them off and outsource it. There, now you have a surplus. And people get treatment for vets, disabled and social security. Sustainable. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On 07/04/2011 2:41 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/7/2011 3:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: On Apr 7, 3:22 pm, Lil wrote: On 4/7/2011 11:04 AM, Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay themselves and their union buddies. Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about. Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be in that tax bracket due to inflation. Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary. Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your local govt bureaucrat. This is a war and wars have casualties. So Vets and SS Recipients are parasites? Why aren't there any cuts in susidies for ethanol and giant Agribusiness and no taxes for foreign or Global Corporations that make their money in America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic? No, most vets and SS recips are good people, it is the bureaucrats who are parasites. However, the mindset of relying on SS or even too much vet care is a symptom of the cancer of too much govt and this has to change. When fighting a cancer, sometimes you attack the blood vessels that feed it. In the case of the cancer riddling our govt, the blood vessels carry money and shutting off the supply of money can reduce the size of the cancer. Many of the cancer cells think they have a right to exist but being dangerous, we should not worry about what they think. If they were somewhere else, they would not be dangerous but being part of the govt makes them cancerous. Sometimes when fighting leukemia, we have to kill the entire supply of cells (in this case the bone marrow) and by analogy we may have to shut down the source of cancer cells, the govt itself and resurrect it later by an infusion of clean cells. If the cancer metastasizes, it is usually too late because it spreads throughout the entire economic body damaging every organ it encounters. In our society, this would mean that the sense of entitlement spreads sufficiently that we cannot kill it off. It requires ever more resources until the economic body dies. In some ways, our economic situation is even more dire because the cancer itself is semi-intelligent and has decided that keeping itself alive is the purpose of the rest of the body so the body becomes a slave to the parasitical cancer. Sometimes the cancer re-routes blood vessels going to legit body parts thru itself causing damage to these parts if the cancer is killed. It is time for radical therapy, shut down the flow of money that sustains the cancer and then we will have to be ever vigilant to publicly identify new outbreaks and excise them. Many “good” cells will die in the process but it is necessary for the body to survive. Relying on Vet care. I never thought I would be in this situation. i rely on it. I've tried to go outside. It's expensive. Insurance we thought we had decided we didn't. Huge, to us bills. Not relying on VA is not an option. Cost Effective thanks Bush. Obama has already doubled in 27 months Bush's debt in 8 years. Obama is a "In Debt We Trust!" president. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
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Shut it down and kill the parasites
On 4/7/2011 4:56 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 07/04/2011 2:41 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 4/7/2011 3:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: On Apr 7, 3:22 pm, Lil wrote: On 4/7/2011 11:04 AM, Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay themselves and their union buddies. Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about. Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be in that tax bracket due to inflation. Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary. Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your local govt bureaucrat. This is a war and wars have casualties. So Vets and SS Recipients are parasites? Why aren't there any cuts in susidies for ethanol and giant Agribusiness and no taxes for foreign or Global Corporations that make their money in America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic? No, most vets and SS recips are good people, it is the bureaucrats who are parasites. However, the mindset of relying on SS or even too much vet care is a symptom of the cancer of too much govt and this has to change. When fighting a cancer, sometimes you attack the blood vessels that feed it. In the case of the cancer riddling our govt, the blood vessels carry money and shutting off the supply of money can reduce the size of the cancer. Many of the cancer cells think they have a right to exist but being dangerous, we should not worry about what they think. If they were somewhere else, they would not be dangerous but being part of the govt makes them cancerous. Sometimes when fighting leukemia, we have to kill the entire supply of cells (in this case the bone marrow) and by analogy we may have to shut down the source of cancer cells, the govt itself and resurrect it later by an infusion of clean cells. If the cancer metastasizes, it is usually too late because it spreads throughout the entire economic body damaging every organ it encounters. In our society, this would mean that the sense of entitlement spreads sufficiently that we cannot kill it off. It requires ever more resources until the economic body dies. In some ways, our economic situation is even more dire because the cancer itself is semi-intelligent and has decided that keeping itself alive is the purpose of the rest of the body so the body becomes a slave to the parasitical cancer. Sometimes the cancer re-routes blood vessels going to legit body parts thru itself causing damage to these parts if the cancer is killed. It is time for radical therapy, shut down the flow of money that sustains the cancer and then we will have to be ever vigilant to publicly identify new outbreaks and excise them. Many “good” cells will die in the process but it is necessary for the body to survive. Relying on Vet care. I never thought I would be in this situation. i rely on it. I've tried to go outside. It's expensive. Insurance we thought we had decided we didn't. Huge, to us bills. Not relying on VA is not an option. Cost Effective thanks Bush. Obama has already doubled in 27 months Bush's debt in 8 years. Obama is a "In Debt We Trust!" president. There is too much blame to shared by each or all sides. Until they stop Lobbying from Corporations and Special interest and their dollars we are at their mercy. They destroyed the real tax base of Midle America with good jobs and good pay and benefits. No or reduced incomes means lot less tax dollars to operate the Republic. Corporations that make their money in America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic are the blame too. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:32:09 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: On Apr 7, 11:27*am, wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:21:27 -0400, Harryk wrote: Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. *Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Just another crazy teahadist who hates America. He'll really start hollering when *his* benefits start disappearing though. We expect these parasites to scream and yell and call every name they can think of as their source of blood is taken away. Ignore them and make the cuts or you will be calling them "Master" in a few years. This is a war and we stand the chance of losing but if we do not fight the war against the statists and their cronies, we lose anyway. You obviously majored in stupid. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:46:00 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 07/04/2011 9:39 AM, HarryisPaul wrote: In , says... On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:21:27 -0400, wrote: Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Just another crazy teahadist who hates America. He'll really start hollering when *his* benefits start disappearing though. A smart person plans their retirement privately instead of counting on the government to hold their hand. Yep. I learned early, in my name, in my account, under my absolute control and the rest is BS. When asked company pension versus the newer 401K match for example, I opted 401K (now in my IRA) and many said I was nuts. They are still working and my IRA performance blows away the company plans so bad... For example my IRA was 85% cash on the 2008 crash and come when the real deals came in the spring....well... can't beat that. Yep, in your name, in your account, under your absolute control because the best person to trust is yourself. I'm sure you're net worth is at least $100. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On 07/04/2011 3:07 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/7/2011 4:56 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 07/04/2011 2:41 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 4/7/2011 3:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: On Apr 7, 3:22 pm, Lil wrote: On 4/7/2011 11:04 AM, Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay themselves and their union buddies. Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about. Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be in that tax bracket due to inflation. Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary. Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your local govt bureaucrat. This is a war and wars have casualties. So Vets and SS Recipients are parasites? Why aren't there any cuts in susidies for ethanol and giant Agribusiness and no taxes for foreign or Global Corporations that make their money in America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic? No, most vets and SS recips are good people, it is the bureaucrats who are parasites. However, the mindset of relying on SS or even too much vet care is a symptom of the cancer of too much govt and this has to change. When fighting a cancer, sometimes you attack the blood vessels that feed it. In the case of the cancer riddling our govt, the blood vessels carry money and shutting off the supply of money can reduce the size of the cancer. Many of the cancer cells think they have a right to exist but being dangerous, we should not worry about what they think. If they were somewhere else, they would not be dangerous but being part of the govt makes them cancerous. Sometimes when fighting leukemia, we have to kill the entire supply of cells (in this case the bone marrow) and by analogy we may have to shut down the source of cancer cells, the govt itself and resurrect it later by an infusion of clean cells. If the cancer metastasizes, it is usually too late because it spreads throughout the entire economic body damaging every organ it encounters. In our society, this would mean that the sense of entitlement spreads sufficiently that we cannot kill it off. It requires ever more resources until the economic body dies. In some ways, our economic situation is even more dire because the cancer itself is semi-intelligent and has decided that keeping itself alive is the purpose of the rest of the body so the body becomes a slave to the parasitical cancer. Sometimes the cancer re-routes blood vessels going to legit body parts thru itself causing damage to these parts if the cancer is killed. It is time for radical therapy, shut down the flow of money that sustains the cancer and then we will have to be ever vigilant to publicly identify new outbreaks and excise them. Many “good” cells will die in the process but it is necessary for the body to survive. Relying on Vet care. I never thought I would be in this situation. i rely on it. I've tried to go outside. It's expensive. Insurance we thought we had decided we didn't. Huge, to us bills. Not relying on VA is not an option. Cost Effective thanks Bush. Obama has already doubled in 27 months Bush's debt in 8 years. Obama is a "In Debt We Trust!" president. There is too much blame to shared by each or all sides. Agreed. And at this point it does not mater. Going forward needs to be fixed ASAP. Until they stop Lobbying from Corporations and Special interest and their dollars we are at their mercy. Agreed. In reality lobbyists are really bribery and corruption. They destroyed the real tax base of Midle America with good jobs and good pay and benefits. No or reduced incomes means lot less tax dollars to operate the Republic. Corporations that make their money in America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic are the blame too. Yep, government revenue has imploded. But the top 20% pays 80% of the taxes. Get over it. Low wage earners pay very little. |
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