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Shut it down and kill the parasites
On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:59:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 07/04/2011 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:46:00 -0600, wrote: On 07/04/2011 9:39 AM, HarryisPaul wrote: In , says... On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:21:27 -0400, wrote: Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Just another crazy teahadist who hates America. He'll really start hollering when *his* benefits start disappearing though. A smart person plans their retirement privately instead of counting on the government to hold their hand. Yep. I learned early, in my name, in my account, under my absolute control and the rest is BS. When asked company pension versus the newer 401K match for example, I opted 401K (now in my IRA) and many said I was nuts. They are still working and my IRA performance blows away the company plans so bad... For example my IRA was 85% cash on the 2008 crash and come when the real deals came in the spring....well... can't beat that. Yep, in your name, in your account, under your absolute control because the best person to trust is yourself. I'm sure you're net worth is at least $100. That would be my after tax hourly rate yep. What dumdum. Net worth is a well-defined concept. Look it up. I'm even including your single-wide trailer trash home. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:04:59 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. yeah he will. until he takes an airplane flight without air traffic controllers or until another terrorist attack or until a nuclear meltdown happens because there are no NRC inspectors or until his kids get poisoned by food because the USDA isnt inspecting food producers or until veterans start dying because the VA hospitals shut down Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending let's see...the GOP caused the largest component of the deficit with their tax cuts AND the medicare drug coverage program but the right blames it on the dems because their leader is black but soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay themselves and their union buddies. let's see. in ONE year, wall street dropped the value of 401k's by 30% in one year and his solution is to turn our economy over to wall street. how's that working out? Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about. Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be in that tax bracket due to inflation. hey the upper income folks broke the economy. let them pay for it Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary. meaningless. the rich dont work. the middle class does. the GOP wants to reduce taxes on non working rich people and tax the middle class to pay for it Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your local govt bureaucrat. This is a war and wars have casualties. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On 4/7/2011 5:49 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 07/04/2011 3:07 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 4/7/2011 4:56 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 07/04/2011 2:41 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 4/7/2011 3:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: On Apr 7, 3:22 pm, Lil wrote: On 4/7/2011 11:04 AM, Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay themselves and their union buddies. Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about. Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be in that tax bracket due to inflation. Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary. Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your local govt bureaucrat. This is a war and wars have casualties. So Vets and SS Recipients are parasites? Why aren't there any cuts in susidies for ethanol and giant Agribusiness and no taxes for foreign or Global Corporations that make their money in America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic? No, most vets and SS recips are good people, it is the bureaucrats who are parasites. However, the mindset of relying on SS or even too much vet care is a symptom of the cancer of too much govt and this has to change. When fighting a cancer, sometimes you attack the blood vessels that feed it. In the case of the cancer riddling our govt, the blood vessels carry money and shutting off the supply of money can reduce the size of the cancer. Many of the cancer cells think they have a right to exist but being dangerous, we should not worry about what they think. If they were somewhere else, they would not be dangerous but being part of the govt makes them cancerous. Sometimes when fighting leukemia, we have to kill the entire supply of cells (in this case the bone marrow) and by analogy we may have to shut down the source of cancer cells, the govt itself and resurrect it later by an infusion of clean cells. If the cancer metastasizes, it is usually too late because it spreads throughout the entire economic body damaging every organ it encounters. In our society, this would mean that the sense of entitlement spreads sufficiently that we cannot kill it off. It requires ever more resources until the economic body dies. In some ways, our economic situation is even more dire because the cancer itself is semi-intelligent and has decided that keeping itself alive is the purpose of the rest of the body so the body becomes a slave to the parasitical cancer. Sometimes the cancer re-routes blood vessels going to legit body parts thru itself causing damage to these parts if the cancer is killed. It is time for radical therapy, shut down the flow of money that sustains the cancer and then we will have to be ever vigilant to publicly identify new outbreaks and excise them. Many “good” cells will die in the process but it is necessary for the body to survive. Relying on Vet care. I never thought I would be in this situation. i rely on it. I've tried to go outside. It's expensive. Insurance we thought we had decided we didn't. Huge, to us bills. Not relying on VA is not an option. Cost Effective thanks Bush. Obama has already doubled in 27 months Bush's debt in 8 years. Obama is a "In Debt We Trust!" president. There is too much blame to shared by each or all sides. Agreed. And at this point it does not mater. Going forward needs to be fixed ASAP. Until they stop Lobbying from Corporations and Special interest and their dollars we are at their mercy. Agreed. In reality lobbyists are really bribery and corruption. They destroyed the real tax base of Midle America with good jobs and good pay and benefits. No or reduced incomes means lot less tax dollars to operate the Republic. Corporations that make their money in America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic are the blame too. Yep, government revenue has imploded. But the top 20% pays 80% of the taxes. Get over it. Low wage earners pay very little. I can't find the report but individual Income Taxes produce 45% of the Treasury's income. Corporate Income taxes produce just 12%. The difference comes from tariffs, excise taxes etc. The biuun that they float around from time to time of being economically abused is just so much BS. Most don't pay any US taxes. They generously engineered loopholes and pay little of nothing. Even deferring taxes her until the money is repatriated. It never is repatriated and when that outfit is bought that money disappears. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On 07/04/2011 4:18 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:59:57 -0600, wrote: On 07/04/2011 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:46:00 -0600, wrote: On 07/04/2011 9:39 AM, HarryisPaul wrote: In , says... On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:21:27 -0400, wrote: Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Just another crazy teahadist who hates America. He'll really start hollering when *his* benefits start disappearing though. A smart person plans their retirement privately instead of counting on the government to hold their hand. Yep. I learned early, in my name, in my account, under my absolute control and the rest is BS. When asked company pension versus the newer 401K match for example, I opted 401K (now in my IRA) and many said I was nuts. They are still working and my IRA performance blows away the company plans so bad... For example my IRA was 85% cash on the 2008 crash and come when the real deals came in the spring....well... can't beat that. Yep, in your name, in your account, under your absolute control because the best person to trust is yourself. I'm sure you're net worth is at least $100. That would be my after tax hourly rate yep. What dumdum. Net worth is a well-defined concept. Look it up. I'm even including your single-wide trailer trash home. Hey jack ass, why would I work for others? I make more in care and feeding in my own investments. They sure are paying hansomely this week. You are right, 1/2 acre and 2850 sq/ft is too big for just the two of us. All paid for. I have 3 rooms I haven't been into for over a year. A waste really. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On 07/04/2011 10:26 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/7/2011 5:49 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 07/04/2011 3:07 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 4/7/2011 4:56 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 07/04/2011 2:41 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 4/7/2011 3:56 PM, Frogwatch wrote: On Apr 7, 3:22 pm, Lil wrote: On 4/7/2011 11:04 AM, Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Unless we sit firm on extreme budget cuts, we will have severe inflation as the Dems method of paying for their runaway spending but soon nobody will allow them to continue borrowing. Inflation will be their means of taxation. By this method, they will tax away the value of all of the IRA and 401K plans in pvt hands to continue to pay themselves and their union buddies. Unless we have extreme cuts now, there is no future to worry about. Any savings you have will be useless. The dems will raise the tax rate in upper income people and then after a few years we will ALL be in that tax bracket due to inflation. Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary. Stand firm for extreme cuts now or learn to say "Yas massuh" to your local govt bureaucrat. This is a war and wars have casualties. So Vets and SS Recipients are parasites? Why aren't there any cuts in susidies for ethanol and giant Agribusiness and no taxes for foreign or Global Corporations that make their money in America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic? No, most vets and SS recips are good people, it is the bureaucrats who are parasites. However, the mindset of relying on SS or even too much vet care is a symptom of the cancer of too much govt and this has to change. When fighting a cancer, sometimes you attack the blood vessels that feed it. In the case of the cancer riddling our govt, the blood vessels carry money and shutting off the supply of money can reduce the size of the cancer. Many of the cancer cells think they have a right to exist but being dangerous, we should not worry about what they think. If they were somewhere else, they would not be dangerous but being part of the govt makes them cancerous. Sometimes when fighting leukemia, we have to kill the entire supply of cells (in this case the bone marrow) and by analogy we may have to shut down the source of cancer cells, the govt itself and resurrect it later by an infusion of clean cells. If the cancer metastasizes, it is usually too late because it spreads throughout the entire economic body damaging every organ it encounters. In our society, this would mean that the sense of entitlement spreads sufficiently that we cannot kill it off. It requires ever more resources until the economic body dies. In some ways, our economic situation is even more dire because the cancer itself is semi-intelligent and has decided that keeping itself alive is the purpose of the rest of the body so the body becomes a slave to the parasitical cancer. Sometimes the cancer re-routes blood vessels going to legit body parts thru itself causing damage to these parts if the cancer is killed. It is time for radical therapy, shut down the flow of money that sustains the cancer and then we will have to be ever vigilant to publicly identify new outbreaks and excise them. Many “good” cells will die in the process but it is necessary for the body to survive. Relying on Vet care. I never thought I would be in this situation. i rely on it. I've tried to go outside. It's expensive. Insurance we thought we had decided we didn't. Huge, to us bills. Not relying on VA is not an option. Cost Effective thanks Bush. Obama has already doubled in 27 months Bush's debt in 8 years. Obama is a "In Debt We Trust!" president. There is too much blame to shared by each or all sides. Agreed. And at this point it does not mater. Going forward needs to be fixed ASAP. Until they stop Lobbying from Corporations and Special interest and their dollars we are at their mercy. Agreed. In reality lobbyists are really bribery and corruption. They destroyed the real tax base of Midle America with good jobs and good pay and benefits. No or reduced incomes means lot less tax dollars to operate the Republic. Corporations that make their money in America on Americans but pay no taxes to support the Republic are the blame too. Yep, government revenue has imploded. But the top 20% pays 80% of the taxes. Get over it. Low wage earners pay very little. I can't find the report but individual Income Taxes produce 45% of the Treasury's income. Corporate Income taxes produce just 12%. The difference comes from tariffs, excise taxes etc. The biuun that they float around from time to time of being economically abused is just so much BS. Most don't pay any US taxes. They generously engineered loopholes and pay little of nothing. Even deferring taxes her until the money is repatriated. It never is repatriated and when that outfit is bought that money disappears. People over estimate how much money corporations really make. Many don't pay much taxes for past losses or they MAKE NO MONEY. Which is part of the problem as corporate tax rates are not much different than individuals, 15 to 35%. The biggest reason to own a company is that over time you hope it appreciates at inflation and pays a dividend while you wait. Problem is they are generally not appreciating as fast as inflation which makes them bad investments. So no one invests and poor job prospects. Companies do pay taxes, just don't make enough money to pay the huge needs of DC with. At some point government got too big and too greedy for a sustainable economy. I believe it was 2006. But in any case, $1.6 trillion overspend by DC is clearly not sustainable without hyper-stagflation. Doesn't mater how you cut it, in value terms, in ounces of gold and barrels of oil, wheat, copper or toilet paper, the US government will be forced to spend less. Question is how much inflation do you want with that? |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:13:25 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 07/04/2011 4:18 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:59:57 -0600, wrote: On 07/04/2011 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:46:00 -0600, wrote: On 07/04/2011 9:39 AM, HarryisPaul wrote: In , says... On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:21:27 -0400, wrote: Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Just another crazy teahadist who hates America. He'll really start hollering when *his* benefits start disappearing though. A smart person plans their retirement privately instead of counting on the government to hold their hand. Yep. I learned early, in my name, in my account, under my absolute control and the rest is BS. When asked company pension versus the newer 401K match for example, I opted 401K (now in my IRA) and many said I was nuts. They are still working and my IRA performance blows away the company plans so bad... For example my IRA was 85% cash on the 2008 crash and come when the real deals came in the spring....well... can't beat that. Yep, in your name, in your account, under your absolute control because the best person to trust is yourself. I'm sure you're net worth is at least $100. That would be my after tax hourly rate yep. What dumdum. Net worth is a well-defined concept. Look it up. I'm even including your single-wide trailer trash home. Hey jack ass, why would I work for others? I make more in care and feeding in my own investments. They sure are paying hansomely this week. You are right, 1/2 acre and 2850 sq/ft is too big for just the two of us. All paid for. I have 3 rooms I haven't been into for over a year. A waste really. Hey dummy, you CAN'T work for others. Who would have you who has half a brain. Living in a squalid trailer park doesn't count in the square footage calculation. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On 08/04/2011 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:13:25 -0600, wrote: On 07/04/2011 4:18 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:59:57 -0600, wrote: On 07/04/2011 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:46:00 -0600, wrote: On 07/04/2011 9:39 AM, HarryisPaul wrote: In , says... On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:21:27 -0400, wrote: Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Just another crazy teahadist who hates America. He'll really start hollering when *his* benefits start disappearing though. A smart person plans their retirement privately instead of counting on the government to hold their hand. Yep. I learned early, in my name, in my account, under my absolute control and the rest is BS. When asked company pension versus the newer 401K match for example, I opted 401K (now in my IRA) and many said I was nuts. They are still working and my IRA performance blows away the company plans so bad... For example my IRA was 85% cash on the 2008 crash and come when the real deals came in the spring....well... can't beat that. Yep, in your name, in your account, under your absolute control because the best person to trust is yourself. I'm sure you're net worth is at least $100. That would be my after tax hourly rate yep. What dumdum. Net worth is a well-defined concept. Look it up. I'm even including your single-wide trailer trash home. Hey jack ass, why would I work for others? I make more in care and feeding in my own investments. They sure are paying hansomely this week. You are right, 1/2 acre and 2850 sq/ft is too big for just the two of us. All paid for. I have 3 rooms I haven't been into for over a year. A waste really. Hey dummy, you CAN'T work for others. Who would have you who has half a brain. Living in a squalid trailer park doesn't count in the square footage calculation. No, others work for me. I like it that way. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:43:39 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 07/04/2011 5:58 PM, bob wrote: On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:04:59 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: hey the upper income folks broke the economy. let them pay for it Dems say they care about the underclass but in reality they are simply trying to maintain their ability to take money out of the pockets of those who work and give it to their friends in govt. It is time to bring the gravy train to a halt by any means necessary. meaningless. the rich dont work. the middle class does. the GOP wants to reduce taxes on non working rich people and tax the middle class to pay for it Bone heads and fleabaggers like you dont understand how Wall Street works well right away we can tell you've sucked down the wall street bull**** wall street DOESNT work. that's the PROBLEM! if it DID work we wouldnt have had to BAIL THEM OUT YOU RIGHT WING MORON!! how much ****ING EVIDENCE do you NEED to realize you're ****ED?? .. It is simply a market where buyers meet sellers and exchange is made. If few buy and many want to sell the price goes down. The opposite is also true, if many want to buy but few want to sell the price goes up. Collectively 10's of millions of people contribute to pricing. **** us off witht he coming of Obama and the market crashed. What did you expect? bull****. why? because WS ALSO invents financial instruments like COLLATERALIZE DEBT SWAPS. they went from 320 BILLION in 1997 to SIXTY TWO TRILLION in 2007 in 10 years they increased by a factor of 2000% TWO THOUSAND PERCENT. and you IGNORE that while you bleat your RIGHT WING BULL**** about HOW GLORIOUS wall street works!! wall street ****ED and and YOU tell us how WONDERFUL this is!! Fraud is Harvard buddy Wagoner of GM, running bankrupt and corrupt for so long. Obama bailing them out, and spilling taxpayer funded debt to bailout corruption. Bailing out some bank because a big Saudi Bin Laden deposits money there. uh...the GM bailout was started under bush Even true capitalists would love to see the corruption wiped out but people vote too stupid. Like I have said before Osama be proud of Obama Bin laden. racist. you tell us taht our job as a country is to support wall street and make sure blacks dont get into office |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On 08/04/2011 5:15 PM, bob wrote:
. It is simply a market where buyers meet sellers and exchange is made. If few buy and many want to sell the price goes down. The opposite is also true, if many want to buy but few want to sell the price goes up. Collectively 10's of millions of people contribute to pricing. **** us off witht he coming of Obama and the market crashed. What did you expect? bull****. why? because WS ALSO invents financial instruments like COLLATERALIZE DEBT SWAPS. Why do you think I started exiting banks, mortgages and USD in 2004 to 2008? You could see this a mile away if you read something else other than Keynes debt monger fantasies. I haven't dealt with loaning others money nor debt, nor bond, nor T-Bills or squat to do with debt at all since 2007. Hey one of the tips I had came from a 1930's conservative finance book talking about 1929 and 1932. Why? Did you get stuck in the 2008 crash? Funny, I was cashed up. Sure had a good pick of cheap stocks in Jan-Mar of 2009. Don't go blind with liberalism's greed. Gets you killed every time. they went from 320 BILLION in 1997 to SIXTY TWO TRILLION in 2007 in 10 years they increased by a factor of 2000% It wasn't they. It was GREEDY Americans borrowing their life style. 2008 is just when someone said they wanted to be paid back and no one could find the real money. TWO THOUSAND PERCENT. and you IGNORE that while you bleat your RIGHT WING BULL**** about HOW GLORIOUS wall street works!! wall street ****ED and and YOU tell us how WONDERFUL this is!! Yep, all you liberal leftie fleabaggers thought you could borrow your way into the middle class with a low class attitude. Fraud is Harvard buddy Wagoner of GM, running bankrupt and corrupt for so long. Obama bailing them out, and spilling taxpayer funded debt to bailout corruption. Bailing out some bank because a big Saudi Bin Laden deposits money there. uh...the GM bailout was started under bush At Obama's request from TARP, $13 billion to keep them going for Obama o deal with when he was in office. And not one peep out of Congress for misappropriation of TARP funds. You know that was a conspiracy to have the lame term president take the heat? I openly called Obama a criminal Bin Laden family criminal because Carlye, a major benefactor of GM bailout had Bush and bin Laden family moneys in it. Even true capitalists would love to see the corruption wiped out but people vote too stupid. Like I have said before Osama be proud of Obama Bin laden. racist. you tell us taht our job as a country is to support wall street and make sure blacks dont get into office Ya, I hate corrupt white boys and I hate corrupt black boys so I must be racist. Typical leftie fleabagger slander. |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 18:32:12 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 08/04/2011 5:15 PM, bob wrote: On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:43:39 -0600, wrote: because WS ALSO invents financial instruments like COLLATERALIZE DEBT SWAPS. they went from 320 BILLION in 1997 to SIXTY TWO TRILLION in 2007 in 10 years they increased by a factor of 2000% TWO THOUSAND PERCENT. and you IGNORE that while you bleat your RIGHT WING BULL**** about HOW GLORIOUS wall street works!! wall street ****ED and and YOU tell us how WONDERFUL this is!! Fraud is Harvard buddy Wagoner of GM, running bankrupt and corrupt for so long. Obama bailing them out, and spilling taxpayer funded debt to bailout corruption. Bailing out some bank because a big Saudi Bin Laden deposits money there. uh...the GM bailout was started under bush Bush only spent $13 billion at Obama's request to keep the greedy welshers going until Obama could pork $100 billion more into GM and GMAC. ah. so bush AND obama spent money on GM but you blame ONLY obama But Bush did start the bank corruption roll. who bailed out JP morgan? bush who started TARP? bush but you blame only obama All the calls to the senators and congress to get bush to do the dirty work. so obama called bush and ordered him to start the tarp program before obama was president and, it seems, you're the only one that knows this OR it could be that you're making this up because you have something against the (black) president Someone likely remnded Bush that Carlyle is where some of Daddies money was. Same Carlye Group Bin Laden family interests were held in. yep. rumsfeld had previous experience with the carlyle group. he worked for bush. Like I said, all of DC is corrupt to the core. Even true capitalists would love to see the corruption wiped out but people vote too stupid. Like I have said before Osama be proud of Obama Bin laden. racist. you tell us taht our job as a country is to support wall street and make sure blacks dont get into office Hey, what a better way to defeat the USA than get a greed pandering president, load them up with debt and corruption... bailout Saudi buddies in bad US banks and private equity leaving the people with massive debts. let's see...day after 9/11 the US branch of the bin laden family was flown out of the US on planes arranged by bush the TARP program was started by bush And do it from the INSIDE. Lots of time to setup Obama. Hilary was going to get it but back room money chickened out as it didn't look like Hilary could swing the vote and a McCain/Palin was too honest for DC. So they moved Obama up to get the black race vote. let's see....hilary was only a senator and obama wasnt president so your argument is that bush was completely innocient obama, unbenknownst to ANYONE, except to YOU, manipulated bush into the TARP program and into bailing out wall street. do we need any more proof that you hate obama 'cuz he's black?? |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 18:46:38 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 08/04/2011 5:15 PM, bob wrote: . It is simply a market where buyers meet sellers and exchange is made. If few buy and many want to sell the price goes down. The opposite is also true, if many want to buy but few want to sell the price goes up. Collectively 10's of millions of people contribute to pricing. **** us off witht he coming of Obama and the market crashed. What did you expect? bull****. why? because WS ALSO invents financial instruments like COLLATERALIZE DEBT SWAPS. Why do you think I started exiting banks, mortgages and USD in 2004 to 2008? You could see this a mile away if you read something else other than Keynes debt monger fantasies. gee. the right wing told us that the market was infallible. in fact the GOP and the right TODAY refuses to regulate wall street because they think it's infallible and you ignore that I haven't dealt with loaning others money nor debt, nor bond, nor T-Bills or squat to do with debt at all since 2007. and this is what passes for 'evidence' on the right anecdotes homey stories. fairy tales and bedtime stories any evidence? statistical analysis? nope. nothing. Hey one of the tips I had came from a 1930's conservative finance book talking about 1929 and 1932. Why? Did you get stuck in the 2008 crash? Funny, I was cashed up. Sure had a good pick of cheap stocks in Jan-Mar of 2009. now let's see...the right ENGINEERED the biggest crash since 29 and he tells us it never happened because he wasnt affected the ENTIRE WORLD fell apart but the right wing says it never happened! bet they use mirrors! Don't go blind with liberalism's greed. Gets you killed every time. gee. wasnt aware that the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003, put in place by the GOP and signed by bush were liberal policies you dont know much about america do you? you think the GOP is a liberal party of course you're such a moron you may actually believe that they went from 320 BILLION in 1997 to SIXTY TWO TRILLION in 2007 in 10 years they increased by a factor of 2000% It wasn't they. It was GREEDY Americans borrowing their life style. now let's see. WALL STREET traded CDS's. middle class america did NOT but he blames MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA. why? because that's what the right does MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA did NOT buy and sell CDS's WALL STREET DID. but he blames the MIDDLE CLASS god knows you cant blame the RICH!! 2008 is just when someone said they wanted to be paid back and no one could find the real money. yeah that's right. the RICH had expanded CDS's by TWO THOUSAND PERCENT the middle class had NOTHING to do with this and you blame the mIDDLE CLASS TWO THOUSAND PERCENT. and you IGNORE that while you bleat your RIGHT WING BULL**** about HOW GLORIOUS wall street works!! wall street ****ED and and YOU tell us how WONDERFUL this is!! Yep, all you liberal leftie fleabaggers thought you could borrow your way into the middle class with a low class attitude. HAHAHA he blames the MIDDLE CLASS For what WALL STREET did WALL STREET NOT MAIN STREET expanded CDS's by TWO THOUSAND PERCENT and to him the MIDDLE CLASS is to blame no middle class worker has collateralized debt obligations in his paycheck ONLY wall street trades these but he blames the middle class. typical right winger. NEVER blames the rich. NEVER. even when it's IMPOSSIBLE for the MIDDLE CLASS to be at fault he STILL BLAMES the middle class because you can NEVER blame the rich! Fraud is Harvard buddy Wagoner of GM, running bankrupt and corrupt for so long. Obama bailing them out, and spilling taxpayer funded debt to bailout corruption. Bailing out some bank because a big Saudi Bin Laden deposits money there. uh...the GM bailout was started under bush At Obama's request from TARP, $13 billion to keep them going for Obama o deal with when he was in office. And not one peep out of Congress for misappropriation of TARP funds. You know that was a conspiracy to have the lame term president take the heat? obama wasnt president when TARP was formulated bush was. bush bailed out the big banks. the recession started under bush but you blame obama because he's black. I openly called Obama a criminal Bin Laden family criminal because Carlye, a major benefactor of GM bailout had Bush and bin Laden family moneys in it. let's see who was head of carlyle?? a guy named donald rumsfeld and who was rumsfeld's boss in 2002-2007?? george bush. but the right wing lunatic blames obama. so even though WALL STREET increased RISK by TWO THOUSAND PERCENT and the MIDDLE CLASS HAD NO ROLE in this he STILL blames the MIDDLE CLASS and even thought RUMSFELD worked for BUSH he STILL says that it's a fact....known ONLY TO HIM...that OBAMA TELEPATHICALLY communicated to RUMSFELD about the TARP is there ANY more proof needed that he HATES america AND blacks?? |
Shut it down and kill the parasites
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:50:15 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 08/04/2011 3:43 PM, wrote: On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 12:13:25 -0600, wrote: On 07/04/2011 4:18 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:59:57 -0600, wrote: On 07/04/2011 3:29 PM, wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:46:00 -0600, wrote: On 07/04/2011 9:39 AM, HarryisPaul wrote: In , says... On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:21:27 -0400, wrote: Frogwatch wrote: Shut the govt down and bring all the troops home and furlough them. Let all the big govt parasites go find real jobs. Those of us who do not depend on the govt for income will survive and for a change the govt workers will see how the rest of us have been living. Just another crazy teahadist who hates America. He'll really start hollering when *his* benefits start disappearing though. A smart person plans their retirement privately instead of counting on the government to hold their hand. Yep. I learned early, in my name, in my account, under my absolute control and the rest is BS. When asked company pension versus the newer 401K match for example, I opted 401K (now in my IRA) and many said I was nuts. They are still working and my IRA performance blows away the company plans so bad... For example my IRA was 85% cash on the 2008 crash and come when the real deals came in the spring....well... can't beat that. Yep, in your name, in your account, under your absolute control because the best person to trust is yourself. I'm sure you're net worth is at least $100. That would be my after tax hourly rate yep. What dumdum. Net worth is a well-defined concept. Look it up. I'm even including your single-wide trailer trash home. Hey jack ass, why would I work for others? I make more in care and feeding in my own investments. They sure are paying hansomely this week. You are right, 1/2 acre and 2850 sq/ft is too big for just the two of us. All paid for. I have 3 rooms I haven't been into for over a year. A waste really. Hey dummy, you CAN'T work for others. Who would have you who has half a brain. Living in a squalid trailer park doesn't count in the square footage calculation. No, others work for me. I like it that way. As I said, nobody believes liars. |
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