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Harryk April 6th 11 07:39 PM

Amazing race in Wisconsin...
 
In a race still too close to call, Assistant Attorney General JoAnne
Kloppenburg took a paper-thin lead over Justice David Prosser in the
state Supreme Court race early Wednesday, capping a race marked by
massive voter turnout, Gov. Scott Walker's union bargaining plan, and
record spending by outside interest groups.

As of 11:30 a.m., The Associated Press had results for all but 1 of the
state's 3,630 precincts and Kloppenburg had taken a 235 vote lead after
Prosser had been ahead most of the night by less than 1,000 votes.

That one precinct would appear to be in the Town of Lake Mills, where
town officials were meeting to count the last of the paper ballots.

The Jefferson County Clerk's officer reported that Prosser picked up
only 2 votes in the electronic vote in Lake Mills and that 24
handwritten ballots were not yet counted.The results of a single
township in Jefferson County should be known by about 1 p.m. Wednesday
after local officials finish examining votes from Tuesday's election.

About 220 votes were cast in Town of Lake Mills - seemingly not enough
for Prosser to make up the votes he would need to defeat Kloppenburg.


http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...119308059.html

It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of
hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing.

If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's
republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the
Milwaukee county government.

In the judge race, the Republicans outspent the Dems by a more than 3 to
2 margin.

Jack. April 6th 11 07:59 PM

Amazing race in Wisconsin...
 
On Apr 6, 2:39*pm, Harryk wrote:

It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of
hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing.

If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's
republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the
Milwaukee county government.


A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes
out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant.
Virtually half the state supports the governor.

One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :-

Harryk April 6th 11 08:06 PM

Amazing race in Wisconsin...
 
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, wrote:

It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of
hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing.

If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's
republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the
Milwaukee county government.


A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes
out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant.
Virtually half the state supports the governor.

One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :-



Until a few weeks ago, the Repub incumbent was expected to walk away
with the race. The Repubs outspent the Dems. And the loss in Milwaukee
is significant, too.

If both Dems win, it will be a slap in the fact to the anti-worker
governor. The loss on the state court will be significant to his plans.

Jack. April 6th 11 08:13 PM

Amazing race in Wisconsin...
 
On Apr 6, 3:06*pm, Harryk wrote:
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, *wrote:


It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of
hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing..


If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's
republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the
Milwaukee county government.


A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. *A win by 200 votes
out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant.
Virtually half the state supports the governor.


One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. *:-


The Repubs outspent the Dems.



There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top
and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a
little ACORN action, eh?

We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new
playbook on cheating.

Harryk April 6th 11 08:20 PM

Amazing race in Wisconsin...
 
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, wrote:
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, wrote:
It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of
hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing.
If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's
republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the
Milwaukee county government.
A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes
out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant.
Virtually half the state supports the governor.
One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :-

The Repubs outspent the Dems.



There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top
and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a
little ACORN action, eh?

We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new
playbook on cheating.



You must have missed the part about the Repubs outspending the Dems, eh?

There's no doubt that corporate money and teahadist thugs accounted for
the large number of votes for the Republican incumbent. That and the
typical Republican dirty tricks.

We saw that before in 2000, when the Repubs and their thugs and their
proxies on the U.S. Supreme Court put Bush in the whiteHouse. Now that
was *the* new playbook on cheating.





Harryk April 6th 11 08:32 PM

Amazing race in Wisconsin...
 
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, wrote:
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, wrote:
It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of
hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing.
If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's
republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the
Milwaukee county government.
A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes
out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant.
Virtually half the state supports the governor.
One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :-

The Repubs outspent the Dems.



There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top
and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a
little ACORN action, eh?

We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new
playbook on cheating.



Whoops...analysis from the post:

Why the left’s showing in Wisconsin Supreme Court race is a big deal
By Greg Sargent

In the nationally-watched Wisconsin state Supreme Court race, liberal
challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg has edged ahead of conservative sitting
justice David Prosser by just over 200 votes.

We still don’t know who is going to win, and we may not know for some
time to come. But even if Kloppenburg loses, labor strategists argue,
this will have constituted a victory for unions and Dems — proof of
Scott Walker’s continuing toxicity, and of the staying power of the
grassroots energy he unleashed. They’re right.

The emerging GOP spin on this race, according to Ben Smith, is that the
razor-thin closeness of the contest constitutes vindication for Walker,
and proof that the right can stand up to the labor goons. One GOPer
tells Smith (who was appropriately skeptical) that this is a “massive
bummer for the bad guys” because labor and Dems threw “everything they
have” at this race.

Sure, GOPers will be able to crow if they win, but this is still mostly
nonsense. Here’s why.

First, the current results reflect a massive and astonishingly fast
swing of support away from Prosser and in Kloppenburg’s favor. In a
primary election in February (Wisconsin judicial elections are
nonpartisan, and the top two primary victors face off in the general),
Prosser beat Koppenburg by 30 points, 55-25. The current results show
she doubled her vote share in just over six weeks, while Prosser has
lost ground. This huge shift happened for one reason: Scott Walker.

Second, it’s extremely rare in Wisconsin to oust sitting Supreme Court
justices. In 2008, Louis Butler was unseated, but as University of
Wisconsin professor Charles Franklin points out to me, he had originally
been appointed and not elected. The last time this happened before that
was 44 years ago, and it only happened three times before that since the
court was created in 1852.

Third, for all the talk about labor muscle in this race, labor and Dems
were actually outspent on the air by a sizable amount. According to an
analysis of outside spending by the Brennan Center, the pro-Kloppenburg
forces spent $1.3 million, while the pro-Prosser forces spent a total of
almost $2.2 million, nearly $1 million more. You can argue that TV
spending doesn’t matter that much in this race, because a lot of this
was driven by on-the-ground organizing, but if anything, the race’s
closeness would make it even clearer that labor’s ground forces
outperformed expections.

No question, a loss for Kloppenburg would allow GOPers to claim a
much-needed victory and boast that they held off labor’s onslaught. But
even without a win, labor and Dems will have exceeded expectations big
time, and will have proved that the grassroots energy unleashed by
Walker’s overreach is still in full force. And of course, if Kloppenburg
does pull this off, it will constitute a huge win that will only lend
more momentum to the recall drives and confirm that Walker remains as
politically toxic as ever.


Jack. April 6th 11 08:38 PM

Amazing race in Wisconsin...
 
On Apr 6, 3:32*pm, Harryk wrote:
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, *wrote:
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, * *wrote:
It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of
hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing.
If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's
republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the
Milwaukee county government.
A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. *A win by 200 votes
out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant.
Virtually half the state supports the governor.
One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. *:-
The Repubs outspent the Dems.


There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top
and in the lead. *There was a lot at stake for them. *That and a
little ACORN action, eh?


We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. *The dems have a new
playbook on cheating.


Whoops...analysis from the post:

Why the left’s showing in Wisconsin Supreme Court race is a big deal
By Greg Sargent


Greg Sargent? A far left whacko and apologist. Meaningless tripe.


And the Republicans may have outspent the Dems, but when you add in
the *union* money spent, that puts the Dems over the top. The union
pulled out all the stops on this one, and apparently could only pull
it out by 200 votes.

Boating All Out April 6th 11 08:48 PM

Amazing race in Wisconsin...
 
In article 81728961-a61d-4ae3-84f6-0a854197aca1@
1g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says...

On Apr 6, 3:06*pm, Harryk wrote:
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, *wrote:


It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of
hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing.


If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's
republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the
Milwaukee county government.


A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. *A win by 200 votes
out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant.
Virtually half the state supports the governor.


One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. *:-


The Repubs outspent the Dems.



There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top
and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a
little ACORN action, eh?

We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new
playbook on cheating.


Crybaby talk. Now schoolteachers, cops and firemen are "thugs."
boohoo, crybaby.
Only 380,000 union members in Wisconsin, but 1.5 million voters turned
out.
Walker ****ed up - big time.
All those old fools sucking up SS and Medicare came out for the Koch
brothers, and the Republican candidate still didn't come close to what
would have been a shoe-in before Walker showed his cards.
When the rest of country sees how the Congressional Republicans try to
**** everybody but the wealthy, even the old fools will turn against
them.
The Republican party has now lost the "Reagan Democrats."
Next is the old fools.
You're soon be a minority in more ways than one if you live long enough.
Only thing you'll have to brag about is being an outdated fool.



Harryk April 6th 11 08:53 PM

Amazing race in Wisconsin...
 
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 3:32 pm, wrote:
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, wrote:
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, wrote:
It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of
hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing.
If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's
republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the
Milwaukee county government.
A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes
out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant.
Virtually half the state supports the governor.
One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :-
The Repubs outspent the Dems.
There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top
and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a
little ACORN action, eh?
We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new
playbook on cheating.

Whoops...analysis from the post:

Why the left’s showing in Wisconsin Supreme Court race is a big deal
By Greg Sargent


Greg Sargent? A far left whacko and apologist. Meaningless tripe.



hehehe. right. sure. heheheh.




And the Republicans may have outspent the Dems, but when you add in
the *union* money spent, that puts the Dems over the top. The union
pulled out all the stops on this one, and apparently could only pull
it out by 200 votes.


The repubs outspent the dems in total spending, from all sources.

You're beginning to sound a lot like Snotty Ingerfool.

It's been reported for months that the Repub incumbent was way way ahead
in this race *until* the governor overreached with his right-wing agenda.

But, hey, spin it away.

I wouldn't bet on the final outcome of this race. I'll bet the gov's
apparatus will find a way to steal a victory, no matter what, because if
he loses the Supreme Court majority in his state, his extremist plans
are pretty much kaput.







Jack. April 6th 11 09:18 PM

Amazing race in Wisconsin...
 
On Apr 6, 3:53*pm, Harryk wrote:
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 3:32 pm, *wrote:
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, * *wrote:
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, * * *wrote:
It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of
hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing.
If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's
republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the
Milwaukee county government.
A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. *A win by 200 votes
out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant..
Virtually half the state supports the governor.
One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. *:-
The Repubs outspent the Dems.
There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top
and in the lead. *There was a lot at stake for them. *That and a
little ACORN action, eh?
We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. *The dems have a new
playbook on cheating.
Whoops...analysis from the post:


Why the left s showing in Wisconsin Supreme Court race is a big deal
By Greg Sargent


Greg Sargent? *A far left whacko and apologist. Meaningless tripe.


hehehe. *right. *sure. *heheheh.


You don't know who he is? He's ultra-left.


And the Republicans may have outspent the Dems, but when you add in
the *union* money spent, that puts the Dems over the top. *The union
pulled out all the stops on this one, and apparently could only pull
it out by 200 votes.


The repubs outspent the dems in total spending, from all sources.


The independent union spending isn't counted as dem spending.

You're beginning to sound a lot like Snotty Ingerfool.


You're just sounding like an old fool. A dizzy one.

Have fun.


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