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Amazing race in Wisconsin...
In a race still too close to call, Assistant Attorney General JoAnne
Kloppenburg took a paper-thin lead over Justice David Prosser in the state Supreme Court race early Wednesday, capping a race marked by massive voter turnout, Gov. Scott Walker's union bargaining plan, and record spending by outside interest groups. As of 11:30 a.m., The Associated Press had results for all but 1 of the state's 3,630 precincts and Kloppenburg had taken a 235 vote lead after Prosser had been ahead most of the night by less than 1,000 votes. That one precinct would appear to be in the Town of Lake Mills, where town officials were meeting to count the last of the paper ballots. The Jefferson County Clerk's officer reported that Prosser picked up only 2 votes in the electronic vote in Lake Mills and that 24 handwritten ballots were not yet counted.The results of a single township in Jefferson County should be known by about 1 p.m. Wednesday after local officials finish examining votes from Tuesday's election. About 220 votes were cast in Town of Lake Mills - seemingly not enough for Prosser to make up the votes he would need to defeat Kloppenburg. http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...119308059.html It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. In the judge race, the Republicans outspent the Dems by a more than 3 to 2 margin. |
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On Apr 6, 2:39*pm, Harryk wrote:
It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :- |
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Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :- Until a few weeks ago, the Repub incumbent was expected to walk away with the race. The Repubs outspent the Dems. And the loss in Milwaukee is significant, too. If both Dems win, it will be a slap in the fact to the anti-worker governor. The loss on the state court will be significant to his plans. |
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On Apr 6, 3:06*pm, Harryk wrote:
Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, *wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing.. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. *A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. *:- The Repubs outspent the Dems. There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a little ACORN action, eh? We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new playbook on cheating. |
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Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :- The Repubs outspent the Dems. There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a little ACORN action, eh? We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new playbook on cheating. You must have missed the part about the Repubs outspending the Dems, eh? There's no doubt that corporate money and teahadist thugs accounted for the large number of votes for the Republican incumbent. That and the typical Republican dirty tricks. We saw that before in 2000, when the Repubs and their thugs and their proxies on the U.S. Supreme Court put Bush in the whiteHouse. Now that was *the* new playbook on cheating. |
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Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :- The Repubs outspent the Dems. There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a little ACORN action, eh? We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new playbook on cheating. Whoops...analysis from the post: Why the left’s showing in Wisconsin Supreme Court race is a big deal By Greg Sargent In the nationally-watched Wisconsin state Supreme Court race, liberal challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg has edged ahead of conservative sitting justice David Prosser by just over 200 votes. We still don’t know who is going to win, and we may not know for some time to come. But even if Kloppenburg loses, labor strategists argue, this will have constituted a victory for unions and Dems — proof of Scott Walker’s continuing toxicity, and of the staying power of the grassroots energy he unleashed. They’re right. The emerging GOP spin on this race, according to Ben Smith, is that the razor-thin closeness of the contest constitutes vindication for Walker, and proof that the right can stand up to the labor goons. One GOPer tells Smith (who was appropriately skeptical) that this is a “massive bummer for the bad guys” because labor and Dems threw “everything they have” at this race. Sure, GOPers will be able to crow if they win, but this is still mostly nonsense. Here’s why. First, the current results reflect a massive and astonishingly fast swing of support away from Prosser and in Kloppenburg’s favor. In a primary election in February (Wisconsin judicial elections are nonpartisan, and the top two primary victors face off in the general), Prosser beat Koppenburg by 30 points, 55-25. The current results show she doubled her vote share in just over six weeks, while Prosser has lost ground. This huge shift happened for one reason: Scott Walker. Second, it’s extremely rare in Wisconsin to oust sitting Supreme Court justices. In 2008, Louis Butler was unseated, but as University of Wisconsin professor Charles Franklin points out to me, he had originally been appointed and not elected. The last time this happened before that was 44 years ago, and it only happened three times before that since the court was created in 1852. Third, for all the talk about labor muscle in this race, labor and Dems were actually outspent on the air by a sizable amount. According to an analysis of outside spending by the Brennan Center, the pro-Kloppenburg forces spent $1.3 million, while the pro-Prosser forces spent a total of almost $2.2 million, nearly $1 million more. You can argue that TV spending doesn’t matter that much in this race, because a lot of this was driven by on-the-ground organizing, but if anything, the race’s closeness would make it even clearer that labor’s ground forces outperformed expections. No question, a loss for Kloppenburg would allow GOPers to claim a much-needed victory and boast that they held off labor’s onslaught. But even without a win, labor and Dems will have exceeded expectations big time, and will have proved that the grassroots energy unleashed by Walker’s overreach is still in full force. And of course, if Kloppenburg does pull this off, it will constitute a huge win that will only lend more momentum to the recall drives and confirm that Walker remains as politically toxic as ever. |
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On Apr 6, 3:32*pm, Harryk wrote:
Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, *wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, * *wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. *A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. *:- The Repubs outspent the Dems. There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top and in the lead. *There was a lot at stake for them. *That and a little ACORN action, eh? We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. *The dems have a new playbook on cheating. Whoops...analysis from the post: Why the left’s showing in Wisconsin Supreme Court race is a big deal By Greg Sargent Greg Sargent? A far left whacko and apologist. Meaningless tripe. And the Republicans may have outspent the Dems, but when you add in the *union* money spent, that puts the Dems over the top. The union pulled out all the stops on this one, and apparently could only pull it out by 200 votes. |
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Amazing race in Wisconsin...
Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 3:32 pm, wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :- The Repubs outspent the Dems. There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a little ACORN action, eh? We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new playbook on cheating. Whoops...analysis from the post: Why the left’s showing in Wisconsin Supreme Court race is a big deal By Greg Sargent Greg Sargent? A far left whacko and apologist. Meaningless tripe. hehehe. right. sure. heheheh. And the Republicans may have outspent the Dems, but when you add in the *union* money spent, that puts the Dems over the top. The union pulled out all the stops on this one, and apparently could only pull it out by 200 votes. The repubs outspent the dems in total spending, from all sources. You're beginning to sound a lot like Snotty Ingerfool. It's been reported for months that the Repub incumbent was way way ahead in this race *until* the governor overreached with his right-wing agenda. But, hey, spin it away. I wouldn't bet on the final outcome of this race. I'll bet the gov's apparatus will find a way to steal a victory, no matter what, because if he loses the Supreme Court majority in his state, his extremist plans are pretty much kaput. |
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On Apr 6, 3:53*pm, Harryk wrote:
Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 3:32 pm, *wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, * *wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, * * *wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. *A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant.. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. *:- The Repubs outspent the Dems. There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top and in the lead. *There was a lot at stake for them. *That and a little ACORN action, eh? We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. *The dems have a new playbook on cheating. Whoops...analysis from the post: Why the left s showing in Wisconsin Supreme Court race is a big deal By Greg Sargent Greg Sargent? *A far left whacko and apologist. Meaningless tripe. hehehe. *right. *sure. *heheheh. You don't know who he is? He's ultra-left. And the Republicans may have outspent the Dems, but when you add in the *union* money spent, that puts the Dems over the top. *The union pulled out all the stops on this one, and apparently could only pull it out by 200 votes. The repubs outspent the dems in total spending, from all sources. The independent union spending isn't counted as dem spending. You're beginning to sound a lot like Snotty Ingerfool. You're just sounding like an old fool. A dizzy one. Have fun. |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 11:59:49 -0700 (PDT), "Jack."
wrote: On Apr 6, 2:39*pm, Harryk wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. not really. prosser was supposed to be a shoe in. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :- not enough. unions are powerless in the US |
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 15:20:59 -0400, Harryk
wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :- The Repubs outspent the Dems. There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a little ACORN action, eh? We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new playbook on cheating. You must have missed the part about the Repubs outspending the Dems, eh? There's no doubt that corporate money and teahadist thugs accounted for the large number of votes for the Republican incumbent. That and the typical Republican dirty tricks. We saw that before in 2000, when the Repubs and their thugs and their proxies on the U.S. Supreme Court put Bush in the whiteHouse. Now that was *the* new playbook on cheating. Dim bulb Jack. As if unions could outspend the Koch brothers and their anti union cabal. |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 12:13:54 -0700 (PDT), "Jack."
wrote: On Apr 6, 3:06*pm, Harryk wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, *wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. *A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. *:- The Repubs outspent the Dems. There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a little ACORN action, eh? to the right wing, the american middle class is thugs here's an article by a nobel prize winning economist describing how the right wing is turning america into a 3rd world country the right fiddles while the US burns. the right wing HATES american and loves ONLY the rich. alan greenspan says it paul krugman, nobel prize winner says it jospeh stiglitz, nobel prize winner says it only the right wing continue with its class warfare against america read it and weep http://www.vanityfair.com/society/fe...wpisrc=nl_wonk We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new playbook on cheating. |
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On 06/04/2011 12:39 PM, Harryk wrote:
In a race still too close to call, Assistant Attorney General JoAnne Kloppenburg took a paper-thin lead over Justice David Prosser in the state Supreme Court race early Wednesday, capping a race marked by massive voter turnout, Gov. Scott Walker's union bargaining plan, and record spending by outside interest groups. As of 11:30 a.m., The Associated Press had results for all but 1 of the state's 3,630 precincts and Kloppenburg had taken a 235 vote lead after Prosser had been ahead most of the night by less than 1,000 votes. That one precinct would appear to be in the Town of Lake Mills, where town officials were meeting to count the last of the paper ballots. The Jefferson County Clerk's officer reported that Prosser picked up only 2 votes in the electronic vote in Lake Mills and that 24 handwritten ballots were not yet counted.The results of a single township in Jefferson County should be known by about 1 p.m. Wednesday after local officials finish examining votes from Tuesday's election. About 220 votes were cast in Town of Lake Mills - seemingly not enough for Prosser to make up the votes he would need to defeat Kloppenburg. http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...119308059.html It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. In the judge race, the Republicans outspent the Dems by a more than 3 to 2 margin. No big deal. They are bankrupt. In fact USA is bankrupt. Just more debt and bullsh!t. In time, all the union greed, political corruption and ponzi schemes will crash. USD is loosing purchasing power. Means unions will strike soon. Does not mater how you look at it, this is going to get ugly. Buddy just put his house up for sale. Going to move before they screw him with taxes. |
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:03:22 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: No big deal. They are bankrupt. In fact USA is bankrupt. Just more debt and bullsh!t. In time, all the union greed, political corruption and ponzi schemes will crash. union greed? hard working americans....he says are greedy but the wall street managers who got us here? he ignores them. THEY trashed the economy. but they're rich... USD is loosing purchasing power. Means unions will strike soon. Does not mater how you look at it, this is going to get ugly. there are no unions in the US. they're dead. only wall street is left |
Amazing race in Wisconsin...
Harryk wrote:
In a race still too close to call, Assistant Attorney General JoAnne Kloppenburg took a paper-thin lead over Justice David Prosser in the state Supreme Court race early Wednesday, capping a race marked by massive voter turnout, Gov. Scott Walker's union bargaining plan, and record spending by outside interest groups. As of 11:30 a.m., The Associated Press had results for all but 1 of the state's 3,630 precincts and Kloppenburg had taken a 235 vote lead after Prosser had been ahead most of the night by less than 1,000 votes. That one precinct would appear to be in the Town of Lake Mills, where town officials were meeting to count the last of the paper ballots. The Jefferson County Clerk's officer reported that Prosser picked up only 2 votes in the electronic vote in Lake Mills and that 24 handwritten ballots were not yet counted.The results of a single township in Jefferson County should be known by about 1 p.m. Wednesday after local officials finish examining votes from Tuesday's election. About 220 votes were cast in Town of Lake Mills - seemingly not enough for Prosser to make up the votes he would need to defeat Kloppenburg. http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...119308059.html It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. In the judge race, the Republicans outspent the Dems by a more than 3 to 2 margin. Amazing boating post! |
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Jack. wrote:
On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing.. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :- The Repubs outspent the Dems. There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a little ACORN action, eh? We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new playbook on cheating. ACORN is no longer. Are you surprised? |
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Harryk wrote:
Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :- The Repubs outspent the Dems. There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a little ACORN action, eh? We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new playbook on cheating. You must have missed the part about the Repubs outspending the Dems, eh? There's no doubt that corporate money and teahadist thugs accounted for the large number of votes for the Republican incumbent. That and the typical Republican dirty tricks. We saw that before in 2000, when the Repubs and their thugs and their proxies on the U.S. Supreme Court put Bush in the whiteHouse. Now that was *the* new playbook on cheating. Got a cite for that including the backroom deals? |
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On 06/04/2011 5:34 PM, L G wrote:
Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, wrote: Jack. wrote: On Apr 6, 2:39 pm, wrote: It ain't over until it is over, but for two candidates to be a couple of hundred votes apart when more than a million votes were cast...amazing.. If Kloppenburg wins, it will be a stiff repudiation of the state's republican governor. The gov's man also lost in a race to run the Milwaukee county government. A "stiff repudiation" would be a landslide win. A win by 200 votes out of a million is a dead heat, and is statistically insignificant. Virtually half the state supports the governor. One has to wonder how much the *unions* spent on the election. :- The Repubs outspent the Dems. There's no doubt that union money and thugs put the dems over the top and in the lead. There was a lot at stake for them. That and a little ACORN action, eh? We've seen it before just a couple of years ago. The dems have a new playbook on cheating. ACORN is no longer. Are you surprised? ACAORN is racist is it not? |
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"bob" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:03:22 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: No big deal. They are bankrupt. In fact USA is bankrupt. Just more debt and bullsh!t. In time, all the union greed, political corruption and ponzi schemes will crash. union greed? hard working americans....he says are greedy but the wall street managers who got us here? he ignores them. THEY trashed the economy. but they're rich... USD is loosing purchasing power. Means unions will strike soon. Does not mater how you look at it, this is going to get ugly. there are no unions in the US. they're dead. only wall street is left ***************** Why are some of these clowns so afraid of a tiny minority of American workers?? |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:01:21 -0300, "True North"
wrote: "bob" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:03:22 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: No big deal. They are bankrupt. In fact USA is bankrupt. Just more debt and bullsh!t. In time, all the union greed, political corruption and ponzi schemes will crash. union greed? hard working americans....he says are greedy but the wall street managers who got us here? he ignores them. THEY trashed the economy. but they're rich... USD is loosing purchasing power. Means unions will strike soon. Does not mater how you look at it, this is going to get ugly. there are no unions in the US. they're dead. only wall street is left ***************** Why are some of these clowns so afraid of a tiny minority of American workers?? they're trying to stamp out the last vestiges of american middle class identity. bring back slavery... |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 22:25:26 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote: In article , says... there are no unions in the US. they're dead. only wall street is left ***************** Why are some of these clowns so afraid of a tiny minority of American workers?? they're trying to stamp out the last vestiges of american middle class identity. bring back slavery... So, are they a "tiny minority of American workers" or "the middle class identity"? As in most arguments with no basis, progressives want it both ways... union members are part of the middle class so are dock workers, milkmen, teachers, nurses, cops, etc as amazing as it may seem, these classes are not exclusive ever take a class in logic?? no, i suppose not. you're the same LIAR who said the military gets paid if there's a govt shutdown. |
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On 06/04/2011 6:01 PM, True North wrote:
union greed? hard working americans....he says are greedy I have briefly been unionized three times. I have had to work with a union from the outside as a contractor. Unions suck for productivity. The only good use they have is in say teachers. Get an irate parent, a knee jerk politician and they try to fire a teacher for doing the right thing. There, unions are good. But when it comes to being real about wages and benefits, they need to be neutered. Union wages and benefits are far too greedy. Add in productivity losses for stupidness. Need to have an electrician move a stupid plug in power cord kind of crap. With governments unions should be limited to protecting unscrupulous and ruthless sociopath politicians from screwing with low on the poll types. but the wall street managers who got us here? Mine didn't. he ignores them. THEY trashed the economy. but they're rich... Funny, I am worth more today than ever before. You should have hired a better manager. USD is loosing purchasing power. Means unions will strike soon. Does not mater how you look at it, this is going to get ugly. there are no unions in the US. they're dead. only wall street is left They are dying because society can no longer afford the waste. Some grade 12 flunky isn't worth more than $15/hr at GM. If a person wants more, get an education in something other than basket weaving or bu11sh1t! Why are some of these clowns so afraid of a tiny minority of American workers?? Because like GM, they used the tax system to screw people for their own greed. Business has ZERO rights from bailouts using the taxpayer funded debt or moneys. Just GREED on the unions part. Selfish basters expect it is ok to pick other peoples pockets using government is the problem. They used to call ti corruption. That is why I refuse to buy GM/Chrysler/CAW/UAW ever again. I don't feed the hands of those that bite me. |
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On 06/04/2011 6:07 PM, bob wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:01:21 -0300, "True North" wrote: "bob" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:03:22 -0600, wrote: No big deal. They are bankrupt. In fact USA is bankrupt. Just more debt and bullsh!t. In time, all the union greed, political corruption and ponzi schemes will crash. union greed? hard working americans....he says are greedy but the wall street managers who got us here? he ignores them. THEY trashed the economy. but they're rich... USD is loosing purchasing power. Means unions will strike soon. Does not mater how you look at it, this is going to get ugly. there are no unions in the US. they're dead. only wall street is left ***************** Why are some of these clowns so afraid of a tiny minority of American workers?? they're trying to stamp out the last vestiges of american middle class identity. bring back slavery... Keep voting in the false hope and worship of big fat corrupt government and you could break the vicious circle. You worship the same idiots that screw you. |
Amazing race in Wisconsin...
On 07/04/2011 4:29 AM, bob wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 22:25:26 -0400, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... there are no unions in the US. they're dead. only wall street is left ***************** Why are some of these clowns so afraid of a tiny minority of American workers?? they're trying to stamp out the last vestiges of american middle class identity. bring back slavery... So, are they a "tiny minority of American workers" or "the middle class identity"? As in most arguments with no basis, progressives want it both ways... union members are part of the middle class so are dock workers, milkmen, teachers, nurses, cops, etc as amazing as it may seem, these classes are not exclusive They really should be. No way a high school dropout at GM or city slacker should make more than a teacher, doctor, nurse or cops for example. But note how they are unionized and on the government payroll for the ones unionized. Perhaps the answer is to outsource it. Sounds good because then you can get rid of the poor performers and normalize the wage/benefits.. ever take a class in logic?? Funny, that is how I made a living. So successful in fact I could retire early. Now I work for myself. no, i suppose not. you're the same LIAR who said the military gets paid if there's a govt shutdown. Have no clue if they will be paid or not. Seems to vary a bit with each shutdown. |
Amazing race in Wisconsin...
On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:43:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 07/04/2011 4:29 AM, bob wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 22:25:26 -0400, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... there are no unions in the US. they're dead. only wall street is left ***************** Why are some of these clowns so afraid of a tiny minority of American workers?? they're trying to stamp out the last vestiges of american middle class identity. bring back slavery... So, are they a "tiny minority of American workers" or "the middle class identity"? As in most arguments with no basis, progressives want it both ways... union members are part of the middle class so are dock workers, milkmen, teachers, nurses, cops, etc as amazing as it may seem, these classes are not exclusive They really should be. No way a high school dropout at GM or city slacker should make more than a teacher, doctor, nurse or cops for example. But note how they are unionized and on the government payroll for the ones unionized. gee. countries which are unionized have a lower GINI coefficient and a stronger middle class than we do. and why does the right defend BILLION dollar salaries for wall street but FIGHTS a few thousand for a firefighter? answer: becuse the firefighter is middle class and the banker is rich Perhaps the answer is to outsource it. Sounds good because then you can get rid of the poor performers and normalize the wage/benefits.. ever take a class in logic?? Funny, that is how I made a living. So successful in fact I could retire early. Now I work for myself. hmmm....must have been a TV preacher and hoodwinked a bunch of gullible morons |
Amazing race in Wisconsin...
On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:37:02 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 06/04/2011 6:07 PM, bob wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:01:21 -0300, "True North" wrote: No big deal. They are bankrupt. In fact USA is bankrupt. Just more debt and bullsh!t. In time, all the union greed, political corruption and ponzi schemes will crash. union greed? hard working americans....he says are greedy but the wall street managers who got us here? he ignores them. THEY trashed the economy. but they're rich... USD is loosing purchasing power. Means unions will strike soon. Does not mater how you look at it, this is going to get ugly. there are no unions in the US. they're dead. only wall street is left ***************** Why are some of these clowns so afraid of a tiny minority of American workers?? they're trying to stamp out the last vestiges of american middle class identity. bring back slavery... Keep voting in the false hope and worship of big fat corrupt government and you could break the vicious circle. You worship the same idiots that screw you. never voted GOP in my life |
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