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John H[_2_] March 26th 11 01:01 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
....anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


Harryk March 26th 11 01:37 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS

Wayne.B March 26th 11 02:14 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS


====

Or one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-SD1200IS.../dp/B001SER492

That little Canon is such a great camera, and so convenient to carry,
that I'm using my Nikon DSLR less and less.


Harryk March 26th 11 02:38 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400,
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS


====

Or one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-SD1200IS.../dp/B001SER492

That little Canon is such a great camera, and so convenient to carry,
that I'm using my Nikon DSLR less and less.


I sold my full frame Nikon DSLR for one reason: it was just too damned
heavy to carry on a neck strap all day long while on vacation. I got a
much lighter Canon DSLR and now actually take the camera with me.
Alternately, I use my wife's pocket sized Canon, which also takes nice
photos.

HarryisPaul March 26th 11 03:49 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400,
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS


====

Or one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-SD1200IS.../dp/B001SER492

That little Canon is such a great camera, and so convenient to carry,
that I'm using my Nikon DSLR less and less.


I sold my full frame Nikon DSLR for one reason: it was just too damned
heavy to carry on a neck strap all day long while on vacation. I got a
much lighter Canon DSLR and now actually take the camera with me.
Alternately, I use my wife's pocket sized Canon, which also takes nice
photos.


Why must you post endlessly about what you have and don't have? Do you
honestly think that after being caught in lie after lie that anybody but
Don believes a thing you say? And do you think anybody gives a ****
about your opinions?

Canuck57[_9_] March 26th 11 04:11 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On 26/03/2011 7:01 AM, John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


I would not want to lug that on a 30 day vacation. What is she using it
for? Different camera for different purposes. Even the most adamant
pro these days has multiple cameras for multiple purposes. And bigger
isn't necessarily better.

Given it has a 55 - 200mm VR lens, that is crap to drive up the price.
Better off with a 70-300mm as digital can do the low end without a fuss
using the regular lenses.

So what is she using it for?

If she is a pro, maybe ask her first. If not a pro, well, this might be
overkill.

Canuck57[_9_] March 26th 11 04:15 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On 26/03/2011 8:14 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400,
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS


====

Or one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-SD1200IS.../dp/B001SER492

That little Canon is such a great camera, and so convenient to carry,
that I'm using my Nikon DSLR less and less.


Similar to the one I have, ditched my full 35mm SLR years ago. The
image stabilization on these is great. Good pics in crappy situations.
Not to be underestimated.

Harryk March 26th 11 05:01 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
Canuck57 wrote:

Given it has a 55 - 200mm VR lens, that is crap to drive up the price.
Better off with a 70-300mm as digital can do the low end without a fuss
using the regular lenses.


Might you translate that paragraph into standard English?

Are you saying VR is "crap," simply there "to drive up the price?"
If so, on what basis would you make such a statement? What does that
statement mean?

And what does "digital can do the low end without a fuss using the
regular lenses" mean?

The low end of what? Fuss about what? Are you trying to say it would be
better using a fixed focal length prime lens? What focal length? 35mm?
On a Nikon SLR crop sensor, that would be the equivalent of a 52.5 mm or
"normal" lens. It's also a $250 lens.






Canuck57[_9_] March 26th 11 05:16 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On 26/03/2011 11:01 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:

Given it has a 55 - 200mm VR lens, that is crap to drive up the price.
Better off with a 70-300mm as digital can do the low end without a fuss
using the regular lenses.


Might you translate that paragraph into standard English?

Are you saying VR is "crap," simply there "to drive up the price?"
If so, on what basis would you make such a statement? What does that
statement mean?

And what does "digital can do the low end without a fuss using the
regular lenses" mean?

The low end of what? Fuss about what? Are you trying to say it would be
better using a fixed focal length prime lens? What focal length? 35mm?
On a Nikon SLR crop sensor, that would be the equivalent of a 52.5 mm or
"normal" lens. It's also a $250 lens.


No, not saying VR is crap. But my not be what she wants/needs. Just
that I would rather have a 70-300mm than a 55-200mm. For others it may
be different. Buying cameras if you are a "pro" is like buying cloths,
a mine field to get it right. One size or style does not fit all.

Means most digital cameras can zoom without lens, thus a low end zoom
becomes obsolete.

Still need to know what she wants it for? Pretty hard to discuss
without knowing why it is needed.


Harryk March 26th 11 05:25 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/03/2011 11:01 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:

Given it has a 55 - 200mm VR lens, that is crap to drive up the price.
Better off with a 70-300mm as digital can do the low end without a fuss
using the regular lenses.


Might you translate that paragraph into standard English?

Are you saying VR is "crap," simply there "to drive up the price?"
If so, on what basis would you make such a statement? What does that
statement mean?

And what does "digital can do the low end without a fuss using the
regular lenses" mean?

The low end of what? Fuss about what? Are you trying to say it would be
better using a fixed focal length prime lens? What focal length? 35mm?
On a Nikon SLR crop sensor, that would be the equivalent of a 52.5 mm or
"normal" lens. It's also a $250 lens.


No, not saying VR is crap. But my not be what she wants/needs. Just that
I would rather have a 70-300mm than a 55-200mm. For others it may be
different. Buying cameras if you are a "pro" is like buying cloths, a
mine field to get it right. One size or style does not fit all.

Means most digital cameras can zoom without lens, thus a low end zoom
becomes obsolete.

Still need to know what she wants it for? Pretty hard to discuss without
knowing why it is needed.


A 70-300 lens without VR is a lot to handhold. So is a 55-200. I have
a Canon 55-250, and even though it is a lighter, consumer lens, it is a
lot to handhold. Fortunately, it has Canon's version of VR.

The little pocket cameras, which I, too, like have optical zooms, but
you can still get better results with a digital SLR, its larger sensor
and larger glass.

I am not going to sit here and try to guess what Herring's adult
daughter might prefer. I suggested a G12 alternative. But Herring's
daughter has a generous father and I'm sure he is attuned to her, and
what sorts of cameras she might prefer.



RG March 26th 11 06:13 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


John,

That package is offered at a great price, but it come with some limitations
that would concern me. First, the D3100 is a good entry-level DSLR body,
but I think stepping up to the D90 offers much more potential, without
getting into the details. You can compare the two bodies on the NikonUSA
website. The D90 is being offered at good prices right now, due to it's
impending discontinuation in favor of the D7000. The D7000 is also a very
nice body, but I think I favor the D90 when you factor in the cost. Even
more of a concern than the body is the choice of lenses being offered with
this package. The 18-55 is simply too limited in its range, in my opinion.
The limited range virtually guarantees that your daughter will need to pack
both the 18-55 and the 55-200, and will likely be switching back and forth.
This program adds to the bulk of the kit, is inconvenient and increases the
opportunities for foreign matter to accumulate on the sensor filter,
requiring more frequent cleaning. I'm guessing that packing lenses,
changing them out on the body and cleaning sensors is not something you or
your daughter bargained for.

I have a friend who recently upgraded from an early model Canon digital
Rebel. He bought the D90 from B&H. B&H is offering the d90 with the 18-105
VR as a kit for $1099. For an extra $370, you get a much more capable body
and a much more versatile lens. Only one lens to carry and no lens
swapping. An even better deal, is ordering the D90 body and the Nikon
18-200 VR individually. This is what my friend purchased. When you order
this bundle from B&H, they are currently offering a $250 discount on the
18-200, for a net price of $1319 for the bundle. Now you have the more
capable body with an even more versatile lens. I haven't used my 18-200 for
years, ever since I purchased the 16-85, but I still have it, and wouldn't
hesitate to mount it if I only wanted to carry my single most versatile
lens. The best deal of all would be for you to purchase the D90 body for
your daughter at a price of $800 and give her your 18-200 if you're no
longer using it The D90 has been around for awhile now, I wouldn't hesitate
to search Craigslist for a well cared for used copy with either the 18-105
or the 18-200. However, I've found that the asking prices for used copies
are not much less than the current prices on new ones.

All of this assumes, of course, that a DSLR kit is the more appropriate
solution versus an advanced point and shoot. Being a Nikon guy, I own the
P7000 as my go-light camera. It has very good image quality and fits right
into my RAW workflow using Capture NX2, but like all point and shoots, I
find it difficult to compose with, don't care for the 4:3 crop ratio vs. the
3:2 ratio with the DSLRs and is encumbered by the myriad of other
limitations that come with such a camera. But it has a focal range of
28-200mm in 35mm equivalency, and fits in a jacket pocket. It can be bought
for $359 at Amazon, much less than I paid for mine. Since I assume that
your daughter will not be needing the ability to shoot raw files, another
option would be a superzoom, such as the new Nikon P500. It has a fixed
lens which offers a focal range of 22.5-810mm in a package that is sized
somewhere between the P7000 and a D3100/D90 for $400.

Happy shooting,

Russ



John H[_2_] March 26th 11 07:27 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:13:36 -0700, "RG" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


John,

That package is offered at a great price, but it come with some limitations
that would concern me. First, the D3100 is a good entry-level DSLR body,
but I think stepping up to the D90 offers much more potential, without
getting into the details. You can compare the two bodies on the NikonUSA
website. The D90 is being offered at good prices right now, due to it's
impending discontinuation in favor of the D7000. The D7000 is also a very
nice body, but I think I favor the D90 when you factor in the cost. Even
more of a concern than the body is the choice of lenses being offered with
this package. The 18-55 is simply too limited in its range, in my opinion.
The limited range virtually guarantees that your daughter will need to pack
both the 18-55 and the 55-200, and will likely be switching back and forth.
This program adds to the bulk of the kit, is inconvenient and increases the
opportunities for foreign matter to accumulate on the sensor filter,
requiring more frequent cleaning. I'm guessing that packing lenses,
changing them out on the body and cleaning sensors is not something you or
your daughter bargained for.

I have a friend who recently upgraded from an early model Canon digital
Rebel. He bought the D90 from B&H. B&H is offering the d90 with the 18-105
VR as a kit for $1099. For an extra $370, you get a much more capable body
and a much more versatile lens. Only one lens to carry and no lens
swapping. An even better deal, is ordering the D90 body and the Nikon
18-200 VR individually. This is what my friend purchased. When you order
this bundle from B&H, they are currently offering a $250 discount on the
18-200, for a net price of $1319 for the bundle. Now you have the more
capable body with an even more versatile lens. I haven't used my 18-200 for
years, ever since I purchased the 16-85, but I still have it, and wouldn't
hesitate to mount it if I only wanted to carry my single most versatile
lens. The best deal of all would be for you to purchase the D90 body for
your daughter at a price of $800 and give her your 18-200 if you're no
longer using it The D90 has been around for awhile now, I wouldn't hesitate
to search Craigslist for a well cared for used copy with either the 18-105
or the 18-200. However, I've found that the asking prices for used copies
are not much less than the current prices on new ones.

All of this assumes, of course, that a DSLR kit is the more appropriate
solution versus an advanced point and shoot. Being a Nikon guy, I own the
P7000 as my go-light camera. It has very good image quality and fits right
into my RAW workflow using Capture NX2, but like all point and shoots, I
find it difficult to compose with, don't care for the 4:3 crop ratio vs. the
3:2 ratio with the DSLRs and is encumbered by the myriad of other
limitations that come with such a camera. But it has a focal range of
28-200mm in 35mm equivalency, and fits in a jacket pocket. It can be bought
for $359 at Amazon, much less than I paid for mine. Since I assume that
your daughter will not be needing the ability to shoot raw files, another
option would be a superzoom, such as the new Nikon P500. It has a fixed
lens which offers a focal range of 22.5-810mm in a package that is sized
somewhere between the P7000 and a D3100/D90 for $400.

Happy shooting,

Russ


Thanks Russ. I definitely appreciate the input.

She's the one who picked the D3100, but I could sway her into a D90 (especially
if I'm buying it).

paul@byc March 26th 11 09:30 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On 3/26/2011 10:14 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400,
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS


====

Or one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-SD1200IS.../dp/B001SER492

That little Canon is such a great camera, and so convenient to carry,
that I'm using my Nikon DSLR less and less.


I like my Brownie Starflash, but it is hard to find film for it at the
local drug store.

I_am_Tosk March 26th 11 10:04 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:13:36 -0700, "RG" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


John,

That package is offered at a great price, but it come with some limitations
that would concern me. First, the D3100 is a good entry-level DSLR body,
but I think stepping up to the D90 offers much more potential, without
getting into the details. You can compare the two bodies on the NikonUSA
website. The D90 is being offered at good prices right now, due to it's
impending discontinuation in favor of the D7000. The D7000 is also a very
nice body, but I think I favor the D90 when you factor in the cost. Even
more of a concern than the body is the choice of lenses being offered with
this package. The 18-55 is simply too limited in its range, in my opinion.
The limited range virtually guarantees that your daughter will need to pack
both the 18-55 and the 55-200, and will likely be switching back and forth.
This program adds to the bulk of the kit, is inconvenient and increases the
opportunities for foreign matter to accumulate on the sensor filter,
requiring more frequent cleaning. I'm guessing that packing lenses,
changing them out on the body and cleaning sensors is not something you or
your daughter bargained for.

I have a friend who recently upgraded from an early model Canon digital
Rebel. He bought the D90 from B&H. B&H is offering the d90 with the 18-105
VR as a kit for $1099. For an extra $370, you get a much more capable body
and a much more versatile lens. Only one lens to carry and no lens
swapping. An even better deal, is ordering the D90 body and the Nikon
18-200 VR individually. This is what my friend purchased. When you order
this bundle from B&H, they are currently offering a $250 discount on the
18-200, for a net price of $1319 for the bundle. Now you have the more
capable body with an even more versatile lens. I haven't used my 18-200 for
years, ever since I purchased the 16-85, but I still have it, and wouldn't
hesitate to mount it if I only wanted to carry my single most versatile
lens. The best deal of all would be for you to purchase the D90 body for
your daughter at a price of $800 and give her your 18-200 if you're no
longer using it The D90 has been around for awhile now, I wouldn't hesitate
to search Craigslist for a well cared for used copy with either the 18-105
or the 18-200. However, I've found that the asking prices for used copies
are not much less than the current prices on new ones.

All of this assumes, of course, that a DSLR kit is the more appropriate
solution versus an advanced point and shoot. Being a Nikon guy, I own the
P7000 as my go-light camera. It has very good image quality and fits right
into my RAW workflow using Capture NX2, but like all point and shoots, I
find it difficult to compose with, don't care for the 4:3 crop ratio vs. the
3:2 ratio with the DSLRs and is encumbered by the myriad of other
limitations that come with such a camera. But it has a focal range of
28-200mm in 35mm equivalency, and fits in a jacket pocket. It can be bought
for $359 at Amazon, much less than I paid for mine. Since I assume that
your daughter will not be needing the ability to shoot raw files, another
option would be a superzoom, such as the new Nikon P500. It has a fixed
lens which offers a focal range of 22.5-810mm in a package that is sized
somewhere between the P7000 and a D3100/D90 for $400.

Happy shooting,

Russ


Thanks Russ. I definitely appreciate the input.

She's the one who picked the D3100, but I could sway her into a D90 (especially
if I'm buying it).


If you are looking for something without lenses I have a older version
of this:

http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsu...productID.2216
44300

Nice cameras, this is the one I have used for all of the shots and most
of the videos I have posted of Jessi over the years. The 30X zoom with
the Schneider lens, makes for a great little auto camera...

John H[_2_] March 26th 11 11:00 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:04:22 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:13:36 -0700, "RG" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


snipped

If you are looking for something without lenses I have a older version
of this:

http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsu...productID.2216
44300

Nice cameras, this is the one I have used for all of the shots and most
of the videos I have posted of Jessi over the years. The 30X zoom with
the Schneider lens, makes for a great little auto camera...


No, she definitely wants a DSLR. Her older sister has the D70 I gave her, and
I've got one, and now she wants one. She does pretty well with photos of her
kids. Very creative.

Harryk March 26th 11 11:07 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:13:36 -0700, wrote:

"John wrote in message
...
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35

John,

That package is offered at a great price, but it come with some limitations
that would concern me. First, the D3100 is a good entry-level DSLR body,
but I think stepping up to the D90 offers much more potential, without
getting into the details. You can compare the two bodies on the NikonUSA
website. The D90 is being offered at good prices right now, due to it's
impending discontinuation in favor of the D7000. The D7000 is also a very
nice body, but I think I favor the D90 when you factor in the cost. Even
more of a concern than the body is the choice of lenses being offered with
this package. The 18-55 is simply too limited in its range, in my opinion.
The limited range virtually guarantees that your daughter will need to pack
both the 18-55 and the 55-200, and will likely be switching back and forth.
This program adds to the bulk of the kit, is inconvenient and increases the
opportunities for foreign matter to accumulate on the sensor filter,
requiring more frequent cleaning. I'm guessing that packing lenses,
changing them out on the body and cleaning sensors is not something you or
your daughter bargained for.

I have a friend who recently upgraded from an early model Canon digital
Rebel. He bought the D90 from B&H. B&H is offering the d90 with the 18-105
VR as a kit for $1099. For an extra $370, you get a much more capable body
and a much more versatile lens. Only one lens to carry and no lens
swapping. An even better deal, is ordering the D90 body and the Nikon
18-200 VR individually. This is what my friend purchased. When you order
this bundle from B&H, they are currently offering a $250 discount on the
18-200, for a net price of $1319 for the bundle. Now you have the more
capable body with an even more versatile lens. I haven't used my 18-200 for
years, ever since I purchased the 16-85, but I still have it, and wouldn't
hesitate to mount it if I only wanted to carry my single most versatile
lens. The best deal of all would be for you to purchase the D90 body for
your daughter at a price of $800 and give her your 18-200 if you're no
longer using it The D90 has been around for awhile now, I wouldn't hesitate
to search Craigslist for a well cared for used copy with either the 18-105
or the 18-200. However, I've found that the asking prices for used copies
are not much less than the current prices on new ones.

All of this assumes, of course, that a DSLR kit is the more appropriate
solution versus an advanced point and shoot. Being a Nikon guy, I own the
P7000 as my go-light camera. It has very good image quality and fits right
into my RAW workflow using Capture NX2, but like all point and shoots, I
find it difficult to compose with, don't care for the 4:3 crop ratio vs. the
3:2 ratio with the DSLRs and is encumbered by the myriad of other
limitations that come with such a camera. But it has a focal range of
28-200mm in 35mm equivalency, and fits in a jacket pocket. It can be bought
for $359 at Amazon, much less than I paid for mine. Since I assume that
your daughter will not be needing the ability to shoot raw files, another
option would be a superzoom, such as the new Nikon P500. It has a fixed
lens which offers a focal range of 22.5-810mm in a package that is sized
somewhere between the P7000 and a D3100/D90 for $400.

Happy shooting,

Russ

Thanks Russ. I definitely appreciate the input.

She's the one who picked the D3100, but I could sway her into a D90 (especially
if I'm buying it).


If you are looking for something without lenses I have a older version
of this:

http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsu...productID.2216
44300

Nice cameras, this is the one I have used for all of the shots and most
of the videos I have posted of Jessi over the years. The 30X zoom with
the Schneider lens, makes for a great little auto camera...


The jerk, out of focus videos of the kid hiding behind the helmet and
facemask?

Why bother when you can't see who it is? Could be anyone's kid.

Wayne.B March 27th 11 02:44 AM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:28:32 -0400, "paul@byc"
wrote:

What's that old expression? If it looks like a pig, smells like a pig
and craps like a pig, it's certainly Harry under yet another alias.


Darn right Paul, you're very perceptive for a sock puppet.


OmDeFlume March 27th 11 03:22 AM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On 3/26/2011 1:25 PM, Harryk wrote:


I am not going to sit here and try to guess what Herring's adult
daughter might prefer. I suggested a G12 alternative. But Herring's
daughter has a generous father and I'm sure he is attuned to her, and
what sorts of cameras she might prefer.



BRAVO!

Harryk March 27th 11 01:53 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
Gene wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400,
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS


I think I'd go the same way.... I'd prefer the Nikon's (still lugging
around my 42 year old Nikon FTNs around, on occasion)....

but if she doesn't want a bunch of levers, dials, and buttons getting
in the way of her memories... the Canon might be a better fit....






Most of the "consumer" grade kit DSLRs have full auto modes that make
them only slightly more complicated to use than a point and shoot
camera. The Nikons do and so does my "consumer" grade Canon. The mode
works pretty well in decent lighting conditions.

The kits typically include "slow" zoom lenses, but with their built-in
vibration/image compensation and a little practice, you can handhold
at some surprisingly low shutter speeds.

Canon has a fairly inexpensive 55-250 mm f/4.0-5.6 lens with image
stabilization that gets terrific reviews despite its low price point.
That's the one I got with my camera. It does take nice photos and it is
relatively light and small. I got a fixed aperture f/2.8 17-50 zoom for
a walkaround lens. Nikon has similar offerings; the two brands are very
competitive.

I am looking for a good wide angle lens. The Tokina 11-16MM F/2.8 ATX is
very nice and will deliver a 17.6 mm - 25.6 mm eqivalent on my crop
camera. But I'm going to wait for the problems in Japan to settle down;
the mess there has caused a temporary price spike and some shortages in
optics coming in from that part of the world.


HarryisPaul March 27th 11 02:15 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:13:36 -0700, wrote:

"John wrote in message
...
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35

John,

That package is offered at a great price, but it come with some limitations
that would concern me. First, the D3100 is a good entry-level DSLR body,
but I think stepping up to the D90 offers much more potential, without
getting into the details. You can compare the two bodies on the NikonUSA
website. The D90 is being offered at good prices right now, due to it's
impending discontinuation in favor of the D7000. The D7000 is also a very
nice body, but I think I favor the D90 when you factor in the cost. Even
more of a concern than the body is the choice of lenses being offered with
this package. The 18-55 is simply too limited in its range, in my opinion.
The limited range virtually guarantees that your daughter will need to pack
both the 18-55 and the 55-200, and will likely be switching back and forth.
This program adds to the bulk of the kit, is inconvenient and increases the
opportunities for foreign matter to accumulate on the sensor filter,
requiring more frequent cleaning. I'm guessing that packing lenses,
changing them out on the body and cleaning sensors is not something you or
your daughter bargained for.

I have a friend who recently upgraded from an early model Canon digital
Rebel. He bought the D90 from B&H. B&H is offering the d90 with the 18-105
VR as a kit for $1099. For an extra $370, you get a much more capable body
and a much more versatile lens. Only one lens to carry and no lens
swapping. An even better deal, is ordering the D90 body and the Nikon
18-200 VR individually. This is what my friend purchased. When you order
this bundle from B&H, they are currently offering a $250 discount on the
18-200, for a net price of $1319 for the bundle. Now you have the more
capable body with an even more versatile lens. I haven't used my 18-200 for
years, ever since I purchased the 16-85, but I still have it, and wouldn't
hesitate to mount it if I only wanted to carry my single most versatile
lens. The best deal of all would be for you to purchase the D90 body for
your daughter at a price of $800 and give her your 18-200 if you're no
longer using it The D90 has been around for awhile now, I wouldn't hesitate
to search Craigslist for a well cared for used copy with either the 18-105
or the 18-200. However, I've found that the asking prices for used copies
are not much less than the current prices on new ones.

All of this assumes, of course, that a DSLR kit is the more appropriate
solution versus an advanced point and shoot. Being a Nikon guy, I own the
P7000 as my go-light camera. It has very good image quality and fits right
into my RAW workflow using Capture NX2, but like all point and shoots, I
find it difficult to compose with, don't care for the 4:3 crop ratio vs. the
3:2 ratio with the DSLRs and is encumbered by the myriad of other
limitations that come with such a camera. But it has a focal range of
28-200mm in 35mm equivalency, and fits in a jacket pocket. It can be bought
for $359 at Amazon, much less than I paid for mine. Since I assume that
your daughter will not be needing the ability to shoot raw files, another
option would be a superzoom, such as the new Nikon P500. It has a fixed
lens which offers a focal range of 22.5-810mm in a package that is sized
somewhere between the P7000 and a D3100/D90 for $400.

Happy shooting,

Russ

Thanks Russ. I definitely appreciate the input.

She's the one who picked the D3100, but I could sway her into a D90 (especially
if I'm buying it).


If you are looking for something without lenses I have a older version
of this:

http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsu...productID.2216
44300

Nice cameras, this is the one I have used for all of the shots and most
of the videos I have posted of Jessi over the years. The 30X zoom with
the Schneider lens, makes for a great little auto camera...


The jerk, out of focus videos of the kid hiding behind the helmet and
facemask?

Why bother when you can't see who it is? Could be anyone's kid.


This from the asshole that thinks every kid should be shielded from any
type of dangerous activity.

John H[_2_] March 27th 11 02:22 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:32:31 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS


I think I'd go the same way.... I'd prefer the Nikon's (still lugging
around my 42 year old Nikon FTNs around, on occasion)....

but if she doesn't want a bunch of levers, dials, and buttons getting
in the way of her memories... the Canon might be a better fit....


I looked at the G12 site above, and read a lot of the reviews. For a point and
shoot it's probably a great camera. But, it's not a 'grown up's' camera, which
is undoubtedly part of my daughter's desires.

She enjoys photography and wants the capabilities of a DSLR. I think the Nikon
D90 will work for her.

What the hell, it's only money.

John H[_2_] March 27th 11 02:53 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:15:38 -0400, HarryisPaul wrote:

In article , payer3389
says...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:13:36 -0700, wrote:

"John wrote in message
...
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35

John,

That package is offered at a great price, but it come with some limitations
that would concern me. First, the D3100 is a good entry-level DSLR body,
but I think stepping up to the D90 offers much more potential, without
getting into the details. You can compare the two bodies on the NikonUSA
website. The D90 is being offered at good prices right now, due to it's
impending discontinuation in favor of the D7000. The D7000 is also a very
nice body, but I think I favor the D90 when you factor in the cost. Even
more of a concern than the body is the choice of lenses being offered with
this package. The 18-55 is simply too limited in its range, in my opinion.
The limited range virtually guarantees that your daughter will need to pack
both the 18-55 and the 55-200, and will likely be switching back and forth.
This program adds to the bulk of the kit, is inconvenient and increases the
opportunities for foreign matter to accumulate on the sensor filter,
requiring more frequent cleaning. I'm guessing that packing lenses,
changing them out on the body and cleaning sensors is not something you or
your daughter bargained for.

I have a friend who recently upgraded from an early model Canon digital
Rebel. He bought the D90 from B&H. B&H is offering the d90 with the 18-105
VR as a kit for $1099. For an extra $370, you get a much more capable body
and a much more versatile lens. Only one lens to carry and no lens
swapping. An even better deal, is ordering the D90 body and the Nikon
18-200 VR individually. This is what my friend purchased. When you order
this bundle from B&H, they are currently offering a $250 discount on the
18-200, for a net price of $1319 for the bundle. Now you have the more
capable body with an even more versatile lens. I haven't used my 18-200 for
years, ever since I purchased the 16-85, but I still have it, and wouldn't
hesitate to mount it if I only wanted to carry my single most versatile
lens. The best deal of all would be for you to purchase the D90 body for
your daughter at a price of $800 and give her your 18-200 if you're no
longer using it The D90 has been around for awhile now, I wouldn't hesitate
to search Craigslist for a well cared for used copy with either the 18-105
or the 18-200. However, I've found that the asking prices for used copies
are not much less than the current prices on new ones.

All of this assumes, of course, that a DSLR kit is the more appropriate
solution versus an advanced point and shoot. Being a Nikon guy, I own the
P7000 as my go-light camera. It has very good image quality and fits right
into my RAW workflow using Capture NX2, but like all point and shoots, I
find it difficult to compose with, don't care for the 4:3 crop ratio vs. the
3:2 ratio with the DSLRs and is encumbered by the myriad of other
limitations that come with such a camera. But it has a focal range of
28-200mm in 35mm equivalency, and fits in a jacket pocket. It can be bought
for $359 at Amazon, much less than I paid for mine. Since I assume that
your daughter will not be needing the ability to shoot raw files, another
option would be a superzoom, such as the new Nikon P500. It has a fixed
lens which offers a focal range of 22.5-810mm in a package that is sized
somewhere between the P7000 and a D3100/D90 for $400.

Happy shooting,

Russ

Thanks Russ. I definitely appreciate the input.

She's the one who picked the D3100, but I could sway her into a D90 (especially
if I'm buying it).

If you are looking for something without lenses I have a older version
of this:

http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsu...productID.2216
44300

Nice cameras, this is the one I have used for all of the shots and most
of the videos I have posted of Jessi over the years. The 30X zoom with
the Schneider lens, makes for a great little auto camera...


The jerk, out of focus videos of the kid hiding behind the helmet and
facemask?

Why bother when you can't see who it is? Could be anyone's kid.


This from the asshole that thinks every kid should be shielded from any
type of dangerous activity.


How about ignoring him? It's great for your serenity.

And it doesn't make you sound continuously foolish.

True North[_3_] March 27th 11 03:57 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 


"John H" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:15:38 -0400, HarryisPaul wrote:

In article , payer3389
says...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:13:36 -0700, wrote:

"John wrote in message
...
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35

John,

That package is offered at a great price, but it come with some
limitations
that would concern me. First, the D3100 is a good entry-level DSLR
body,
but I think stepping up to the D90 offers much more potential,
without
getting into the details. You can compare the two bodies on the
NikonUSA
website. The D90 is being offered at good prices right now, due to
it's
impending discontinuation in favor of the D7000. The D7000 is also a
very
nice body, but I think I favor the D90 when you factor in the cost.
Even
more of a concern than the body is the choice of lenses being offered
with
this package. The 18-55 is simply too limited in its range, in my
opinion.
The limited range virtually guarantees that your daughter will need
to pack
both the 18-55 and the 55-200, and will likely be switching back and
forth.
This program adds to the bulk of the kit, is inconvenient and
increases the
opportunities for foreign matter to accumulate on the sensor filter,
requiring more frequent cleaning. I'm guessing that packing lenses,
changing them out on the body and cleaning sensors is not something
you or
your daughter bargained for.

I have a friend who recently upgraded from an early model Canon
digital
Rebel. He bought the D90 from B&H. B&H is offering the d90 with the
18-105
VR as a kit for $1099. For an extra $370, you get a much more
capable body
and a much more versatile lens. Only one lens to carry and no lens
swapping. An even better deal, is ordering the D90 body and the
Nikon
18-200 VR individually. This is what my friend purchased. When you
order
this bundle from B&H, they are currently offering a $250 discount on
the
18-200, for a net price of $1319 for the bundle. Now you have the
more
capable body with an even more versatile lens. I haven't used my
18-200 for
years, ever since I purchased the 16-85, but I still have it, and
wouldn't
hesitate to mount it if I only wanted to carry my single most
versatile
lens. The best deal of all would be for you to purchase the D90 body
for
your daughter at a price of $800 and give her your 18-200 if you're
no
longer using it The D90 has been around for awhile now, I wouldn't
hesitate
to search Craigslist for a well cared for used copy with either the
18-105
or the 18-200. However, I've found that the asking prices for used
copies
are not much less than the current prices on new ones.

All of this assumes, of course, that a DSLR kit is the more
appropriate
solution versus an advanced point and shoot. Being a Nikon guy, I
own the
P7000 as my go-light camera. It has very good image quality and fits
right
into my RAW workflow using Capture NX2, but like all point and
shoots, I
find it difficult to compose with, don't care for the 4:3 crop ratio
vs. the
3:2 ratio with the DSLRs and is encumbered by the myriad of other
limitations that come with such a camera. But it has a focal range
of
28-200mm in 35mm equivalency, and fits in a jacket pocket. It can be
bought
for $359 at Amazon, much less than I paid for mine. Since I assume
that
your daughter will not be needing the ability to shoot raw files,
another
option would be a superzoom, such as the new Nikon P500. It has a
fixed
lens which offers a focal range of 22.5-810mm in a package that is
sized
somewhere between the P7000 and a D3100/D90 for $400.

Happy shooting,

Russ

Thanks Russ. I definitely appreciate the input.

She's the one who picked the D3100, but I could sway her into a D90
(especially
if I'm buying it).

If you are looking for something without lenses I have a older version
of this:

http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsu...productID.2216
44300

Nice cameras, this is the one I have used for all of the shots and most
of the videos I have posted of Jessi over the years. The 30X zoom with
the Schneider lens, makes for a great little auto camera...


The jerk, out of focus videos of the kid hiding behind the helmet and
facemask?

Why bother when you can't see who it is? Could be anyone's kid.


This from the asshole that thinks every kid should be shielded from any
type of dangerous activity.


How about ignoring him? It's great for your serenity.

And it doesn't make you sound continuously foolish.

****************

Yeah...what he said, Kevin!


HarryisPaul March 27th 11 05:09 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"John H" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:15:38 -0400, HarryisPaul wrote:

In article , payer3389
says...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:13:36 -0700, wrote:

"John wrote in message
...
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35

John,

That package is offered at a great price, but it come with some
limitations
that would concern me. First, the D3100 is a good entry-level DSLR
body,
but I think stepping up to the D90 offers much more potential,
without
getting into the details. You can compare the two bodies on the
NikonUSA
website. The D90 is being offered at good prices right now, due to
it's
impending discontinuation in favor of the D7000. The D7000 is also a
very
nice body, but I think I favor the D90 when you factor in the cost.
Even
more of a concern than the body is the choice of lenses being offered
with
this package. The 18-55 is simply too limited in its range, in my
opinion.
The limited range virtually guarantees that your daughter will need
to pack
both the 18-55 and the 55-200, and will likely be switching back and
forth.
This program adds to the bulk of the kit, is inconvenient and
increases the
opportunities for foreign matter to accumulate on the sensor filter,
requiring more frequent cleaning. I'm guessing that packing lenses,
changing them out on the body and cleaning sensors is not something
you or
your daughter bargained for.

I have a friend who recently upgraded from an early model Canon
digital
Rebel. He bought the D90 from B&H. B&H is offering the d90 with the
18-105
VR as a kit for $1099. For an extra $370, you get a much more
capable body
and a much more versatile lens. Only one lens to carry and no lens
swapping. An even better deal, is ordering the D90 body and the
Nikon
18-200 VR individually. This is what my friend purchased. When you
order
this bundle from B&H, they are currently offering a $250 discount on
the
18-200, for a net price of $1319 for the bundle. Now you have the
more
capable body with an even more versatile lens. I haven't used my
18-200 for
years, ever since I purchased the 16-85, but I still have it, and
wouldn't
hesitate to mount it if I only wanted to carry my single most
versatile
lens. The best deal of all would be for you to purchase the D90 body
for
your daughter at a price of $800 and give her your 18-200 if you're
no
longer using it The D90 has been around for awhile now, I wouldn't
hesitate
to search Craigslist for a well cared for used copy with either the
18-105
or the 18-200. However, I've found that the asking prices for used
copies
are not much less than the current prices on new ones.

All of this assumes, of course, that a DSLR kit is the more
appropriate
solution versus an advanced point and shoot. Being a Nikon guy, I
own the
P7000 as my go-light camera. It has very good image quality and fits
right
into my RAW workflow using Capture NX2, but like all point and
shoots, I
find it difficult to compose with, don't care for the 4:3 crop ratio
vs. the
3:2 ratio with the DSLRs and is encumbered by the myriad of other
limitations that come with such a camera. But it has a focal range
of
28-200mm in 35mm equivalency, and fits in a jacket pocket. It can be
bought
for $359 at Amazon, much less than I paid for mine. Since I assume
that
your daughter will not be needing the ability to shoot raw files,
another
option would be a superzoom, such as the new Nikon P500. It has a
fixed
lens which offers a focal range of 22.5-810mm in a package that is
sized
somewhere between the P7000 and a D3100/D90 for $400.

Happy shooting,

Russ

Thanks Russ. I definitely appreciate the input.

She's the one who picked the D3100, but I could sway her into a D90
(especially
if I'm buying it).

If you are looking for something without lenses I have a older version
of this:

http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsu...productID.2216
44300

Nice cameras, this is the one I have used for all of the shots and most
of the videos I have posted of Jessi over the years. The 30X zoom with
the Schneider lens, makes for a great little auto camera...

The jerk, out of focus videos of the kid hiding behind the helmet and
facemask?

Why bother when you can't see who it is? Could be anyone's kid.


This from the asshole that thinks every kid should be shielded from any
type of dangerous activity.


How about ignoring him? It's great for your serenity.

And it doesn't make you sound continuously foolish.

****************

Yeah...what he said, Kevin!


Go clean that ****box of a house you have, idiot. You are a scared
little pussy and you know it. You won't bet that I'm not Kevin. Scared
little ****. That's all you are.

BAR[_2_] March 27th 11 05:28 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
In article , says...

What's that old expression? If it looks like a pig, smells like a pig
and craps like a pig, it's Loogy.

You've apparently convinced those who remember the "old Loogy" posts
that you are Loogy by the nature of your posts, by the subjects you
bring up, by your constant repetition of inanities, by your penchant for
incessantly repeating bets that interest no one. Whether you are Loogy
or not, you act like him here. Therefore, you "are" Loogy.

If you are someone else, it's easy enough to demonstrate that. But I
think you prefer the handle behind which you are hiding, Loogy. Why not
just confess and get on with your sorry little life.

Here's an idea: bet yourself $500 that you aren't Loogy, and then prove
yourself wrong.


How did Harry transfer his hard-on for Loogy to Paul?

For Paul to the a university professor like he claims you would think
that he wouldn't be as vapid and develop a hatred for someone he has
never communicated with directly.


BAR[_2_] March 27th 11 05:32 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
In article , says...

On 3/26/2011 10:14 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400,
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS


====

Or one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-SD1200IS.../dp/B001SER492

That little Canon is such a great camera, and so convenient to carry,
that I'm using my Nikon DSLR less and less.


I like my Brownie Starflash, but it is hard to find film for it at the
local drug store.


Really Harry, it appears you have been having the same problem for about
9 years.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...71bcf69e6eacd7

Dumb-ass.




Wayne.B March 27th 11 09:55 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:28:07 -0400, BAR wrote:

For Paul to the a university professor like he claims you would think
that he wouldn't be as vapid and develop a hatred for someone he has
never communicated with directly.


Exactly right.

"Paul" is no more a professor than Harry, and most likely is Harry.


Wayne.B March 27th 11 10:01 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:32:07 -0400, BAR wrote:

Really Harry, it appears you have been having the same problem for about
9 years.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...71bcf69e6eacd7


Thanks, that kind of clinches it. What a lame assed putz with
nothing better to do than make up internet personas that agree with
him.


Harryk March 27th 11 10:08 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote:

Really Harry, it appears you have been having the same problem for about
9 years.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...71bcf69e6eacd7


Thanks, that kind of clinches it. What a lame assed putz with
nothing better to do than make up internet personas that agree with
him.


A pair of putzes...w'hine and bertie the birther. Everyone I know over
40 had a Brownie camera at some point in their lives. I had a Hawkeye
Brownie or Brownie Hawkeye and several others. I also owned a Chevy...I
wonder if anyone else did.

Crikey, Bertie the failed marine and w'hine the corporate apologist. No
wonder this country is going down the toilet.



Harryk March 27th 11 10:13 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
Harryk wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote:

Really Harry, it appears you have been having the same problem for about
9 years.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...71bcf69e6eacd7


Thanks, that kind of clinches it. What a lame assed putz with
nothing better to do than make up internet personas that agree with
him.


A pair of putzes...w'hine and bertie the birther. Everyone I know over
40 had a Brownie camera at some point in their lives. I had a Hawkeye
Brownie or Brownie Hawkeye and several others. I also owned a Chevy...I
wonder if anyone else did.

Crikey, Bertie the failed marine and w'hine the corporate apologist. No
wonder this country is going down the toilet.



I had a ford, too...anyone else?

W'hine and Bertie...boy detectives.

Harryk March 27th 11 10:15 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
Harryk wrote:
Harryk wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote:

Really Harry, it appears you have been having the same problem for
about
9 years.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...71bcf69e6eacd7

Thanks, that kind of clinches it. What a lame assed putz with
nothing better to do than make up internet personas that agree with
him.


A pair of putzes...w'hine and bertie the birther. Everyone I know over
40 had a Brownie camera at some point in their lives. I had a Hawkeye
Brownie or Brownie Hawkeye and several others. I also owned a Chevy...I
wonder if anyone else did.

Crikey, Bertie the failed marine and w'hine the corporate apologist. No
wonder this country is going down the toilet.



I had a ford, too...anyone else?

W'hine and Bertie...boy detectives.


Wait, wait...I like Cheerios and I used to like Kellogg's Corn Flakes.

No one else did, right?

True North[_3_] March 27th 11 11:04 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 


"Harryk" wrote in message
...

Harryk wrote:
Harryk wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote:

Really Harry, it appears you have been having the same problem for
about
9 years.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...71bcf69e6eacd7

Thanks, that kind of clinches it. What a lame assed putz with
nothing better to do than make up internet personas that agree with
him.


A pair of putzes...w'hine and bertie the birther. Everyone I know over
40 had a Brownie camera at some point in their lives. I had a Hawkeye
Brownie or Brownie Hawkeye and several others. I also owned a Chevy...I
wonder if anyone else did.

Crikey, Bertie the failed marine and w'hine the corporate apologist. No
wonder this country is going down the toilet.



I had a ford, too...anyone else?

W'hine and Bertie...boy detectives.


Wait, wait...I like Cheerios and I used to like Kellogg's Corn Flakes.

No one else did, right?

************

Still do eat Cheerios...the multi-grain version.
Does that mean I am you?? Can I claim US social security?


Harryk March 27th 11 11:06 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
True North wrote:


"Harryk" wrote in message
...

Harryk wrote:
Harryk wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote:

Really Harry, it appears you have been having the same problem for
about
9 years.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...71bcf69e6eacd7

Thanks, that kind of clinches it. What a lame assed putz with
nothing better to do than make up internet personas that agree with
him.


A pair of putzes...w'hine and bertie the birther. Everyone I know over
40 had a Brownie camera at some point in their lives. I had a Hawkeye
Brownie or Brownie Hawkeye and several others. I also owned a Chevy...I
wonder if anyone else did.

Crikey, Bertie the failed marine and w'hine the corporate apologist. No
wonder this country is going down the toilet.



I had a ford, too...anyone else?

W'hine and Bertie...boy detectives.


Wait, wait...I like Cheerios and I used to like Kellogg's Corn Flakes.

No one else did, right?

************

Still do eat Cheerios...the multi-grain version.
Does that mean I am you?? Can I claim US social security?


Go right ahead...I haven't claimed mine yet, and I am eligible. All you
need is a box of Cheerios.

jps March 28th 11 12:02 AM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:34:47 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:22:33 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:32:31 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS

I think I'd go the same way.... I'd prefer the Nikon's (still lugging
around my 42 year old Nikon FTNs around, on occasion)....

but if she doesn't want a bunch of levers, dials, and buttons getting
in the way of her memories... the Canon might be a better fit....


I looked at the G12 site above, and read a lot of the reviews. For a point and
shoot it's probably a great camera. But, it's not a 'grown up's' camera, which
is undoubtedly part of my daughter's desires.

She enjoys photography and wants the capabilities of a DSLR. I think the Nikon
D90 will work for her.

What the hell, it's only money.


Well, by golly.... more power to the young lady. Photography has been
one of my inspirations since I was a young teenager.

Money well spent on an inspired progeny...!


Somebody doesn't know how to read. The G12 is at the top of the heap
in the P&S market and likely has more features than any progeny of a
Herring is likely to understand.

The D90 is a trick camera that adds the feature of video and doesn't
do it well. It's an okay DSLR.

Of couse, Herring hasn't even mentioned lenses which is the key to any
SLR setup, digital or otherwise. No one should buy any camera body
until they think about how the camera will be used and which lens is
likely to be their most used based on their specific interests.

It's like buying a boat without thinking about how it's going to be
used. Hey, this one looks like a good deal.

I_am_Tosk March 28th 11 02:18 AM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:34:47 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:22:33 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:32:31 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS

I think I'd go the same way.... I'd prefer the Nikon's (still lugging
around my 42 year old Nikon FTNs around, on occasion)....

but if she doesn't want a bunch of levers, dials, and buttons getting
in the way of her memories... the Canon might be a better fit....

I looked at the G12 site above, and read a lot of the reviews. For a point and
shoot it's probably a great camera. But, it's not a 'grown up's' camera, which
is undoubtedly part of my daughter's desires.

She enjoys photography and wants the capabilities of a DSLR. I think the Nikon
D90 will work for her.

What the hell, it's only money.


Well, by golly.... more power to the young lady. Photography has been
one of my inspirations since I was a young teenager.

Money well spent on an inspired progeny...!


Somebody doesn't know how to read. The G12 is at the top of the heap
in the P&S market and likely has more features than any progeny of a
Herring is likely to understand.


You know, when you act like such an ass, nobody but Harry and the pussy
Don White read anything you are making up as you go along... What a
****ing pussy asshole you are...

Harryk March 28th 11 02:47 AM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:34:47 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:22:33 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:32:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400,
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS
I think I'd go the same way.... I'd prefer the Nikon's (still lugging
around my 42 year old Nikon FTNs around, on occasion)....

but if she doesn't want a bunch of levers, dials, and buttons getting
in the way of her memories... the Canon might be a better fit....
I looked at the G12 site above, and read a lot of the reviews. For a point and
shoot it's probably a great camera. But, it's not a 'grown up's' camera, which
is undoubtedly part of my daughter's desires.

She enjoys photography and wants the capabilities of a DSLR. I think the Nikon
D90 will work for her.

What the hell, it's only money.
Well, by golly.... more power to the young lady. Photography has been
one of my inspirations since I was a young teenager.

Money well spent on an inspired progeny...!

Somebody doesn't know how to read. The G12 is at the top of the heap
in the P&S market and likely has more features than any progeny of a
Herring is likely to understand.


You know, when you act like such an ass, nobody but Harry and the pussy
Don White read anything you are making up as you go along... What a
****ing pussy asshole you are...



A lecture from Snotty Ingersoll, a little man of little consequence.

jps March 28th 11 04:04 AM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:47:00 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:34:47 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:22:33 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:32:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400,
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS
I think I'd go the same way.... I'd prefer the Nikon's (still lugging
around my 42 year old Nikon FTNs around, on occasion)....

but if she doesn't want a bunch of levers, dials, and buttons getting
in the way of her memories... the Canon might be a better fit....
I looked at the G12 site above, and read a lot of the reviews. For a point and
shoot it's probably a great camera. But, it's not a 'grown up's' camera, which
is undoubtedly part of my daughter's desires.

She enjoys photography and wants the capabilities of a DSLR. I think the Nikon
D90 will work for her.

What the hell, it's only money.
Well, by golly.... more power to the young lady. Photography has been
one of my inspirations since I was a young teenager.

Money well spent on an inspired progeny...!
Somebody doesn't know how to read. The G12 is at the top of the heap
in the P&S market and likely has more features than any progeny of a
Herring is likely to understand.


You know, when you act like such an ass, nobody but Harry and the pussy
Don White read anything you are making up as you go along... What a
****ing pussy asshole you are...



A lecture from Snotty Ingersoll, a little man of little consequence.


Among my most avid readers. What a compliment!

HarryisPaul March 28th 11 02:24 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"Harryk" wrote in message
...

Harryk wrote:
Harryk wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote:

Really Harry, it appears you have been having the same problem for
about
9 years.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...71bcf69e6eacd7

Thanks, that kind of clinches it. What a lame assed putz with
nothing better to do than make up internet personas that agree with
him.


A pair of putzes...w'hine and bertie the birther. Everyone I know over
40 had a Brownie camera at some point in their lives. I had a Hawkeye
Brownie or Brownie Hawkeye and several others. I also owned a Chevy...I
wonder if anyone else did.

Crikey, Bertie the failed marine and w'hine the corporate apologist. No
wonder this country is going down the toilet.



I had a ford, too...anyone else?

W'hine and Bertie...boy detectives.


Wait, wait...I like Cheerios and I used to like Kellogg's Corn Flakes.

No one else did, right?

************

Still do eat Cheerios...the multi-grain version.
Does that mean I am you?? Can I claim US social security?


You act the same.... childish.

John H[_2_] March 28th 11 02:45 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:34:47 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:22:33 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:32:31 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS

I think I'd go the same way.... I'd prefer the Nikon's (still lugging
around my 42 year old Nikon FTNs around, on occasion)....

but if she doesn't want a bunch of levers, dials, and buttons getting
in the way of her memories... the Canon might be a better fit....


I looked at the G12 site above, and read a lot of the reviews. For a point and
shoot it's probably a great camera. But, it's not a 'grown up's' camera, which
is undoubtedly part of my daughter's desires.

She enjoys photography and wants the capabilities of a DSLR. I think the Nikon
D90 will work for her.

What the hell, it's only money.


Well, by golly.... more power to the young lady. Photography has been
one of my inspirations since I was a young teenager.

Money well spent on an inspired progeny...!


When I went to a DSLR, the fact that none of my Canon lenses would fit the Canon
DSLRs pushed me in the Nikon direction. She pleaded with me to give her my Canon
SLRs and lenses, which I did. She used them for several years, until I gave her
my digital P&S, also a Nikon.

Now she's ready to go DSLR. One nice thing about getting daughters into
photography is that it's always easy to find gifts for birthdays, mother's days,
and Christmas.

Harryk March 28th 11 02:57 PM

Thinking of buying daughter a camera for birthday...
 
John H wrote:


When I went to a DSLR, the fact that none of my Canon lenses would fit the Canon
DSLRs pushed me in the Nikon direction. She pleaded with me to give her my Canon
SLRs and lenses, which I did. She used them for several years, until I gave her
my digital P&S, also a Nikon.



The Canon "EF" and "EF-S" lenses fit the Canon DSLRs. The lenses for the
"crop" Canon DSLRs, however, don't work properly opticaly on a
full-frame Canon SLR or DSLR.

The DSLR lines of Canon and Nikon are very competitive.


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