On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:32:57 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:20:00 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:53:52 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

The price for my support for Obama’s war is the admission by liberals
that Bush was right. Otherwise, we are logically forced to conclude
that liberal policies involving deaths of US servicemen is driven
purely by US politics. If they will admit that Bush was right, it
will be evidence that they can learn from their mistakes and I will
then be able to support the war. Until then, I will use Liberals own
rhetoric against them.

Afghanistan: Bush was right.

Iraq: Bush was a 100% gold plated ball bearing idiot.

As is *your* boy in Libya.

No, as in you and your racist friends.

On 23/03/2011 3:08 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
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On 22/03/2011 5:13 PM, Harryk wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
The price for my support for Obama?s war is the admission by liberals
that Bush was right.

No one gives a flying f*ck about your support for Obama.

I think, except for fleabaggers; we have open contempt for Obama, not
support and certainy no respect either. The man is only good at
standing on a soap box, all talk and no walk.

OH, he has walk alright. He has walked away from the frekin' job...
Where the hell is the guy while the **** is hitting the fan.. Oh yeah,
on vacation, and filling in "the brackets". Sad indeed.

Fleabaggers only come in two varieties and one hybrid. Cowards and
stupid. Obama is likely a hybrid. Probably hid under hs bed for Japan,
Libya, Behrain, Yemen, and when Saudi Bin Ladens called.

On 23/03/2011 6:06 AM, Despot wrote:
On 3/22/2011 7:45 PM, Canuck57 wrote:

The man is only good at standing
on a soap box, all talk and no walk.

Only if the soap box is accompanied by teleprompters.

You can sure tell when he is without a telepromter. The man is a
flip-flopping fish when that happens.

Sort of reminds me of the entertainment industry. With enough money and
PR, you can sell anyone even if they have zero tallent. But get them on
a stage without the money and tech, they are aweful.

Obama is a bought and paid for show man for those that really run the
show. And I am sure they are looking for a 2012 replacement. Change
the name and do it again Sam...

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On 23/03/2011 3:08 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 22/03/2011 5:13 PM, Harryk wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
The price for my support for Obama?s war is the admission by liberals
that Bush was right.

No one gives a flying f*ck about your support for Obama.

I think, except for fleabaggers; we have open contempt for Obama, not
support and certainy no respect either. The man is only good at
standing on a soap box, all talk and no walk.

OH, he has walk alright. He has walked away from the frekin' job...
Where the hell is the guy while the **** is hitting the fan.. Oh yeah,
on vacation, and filling in "the brackets". Sad indeed.

Fleabaggers only come in two varieties and one hybrid. Cowards and
stupid. Obama is likely a hybrid. Probably hid under hs bed for Japan,
Libya, Behrain, Yemen, and when Saudi Bin Ladens called.

LOL!

On 23/03/2011 3:08 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 22/03/2011 4:53 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
The price for my support for Obama?s war is the admission by liberals
that Bush was right. Otherwise, we are logically forced to conclude
that liberal policies involving deaths of US servicemen is driven
purely by US politics. If they will admit that Bush was right, it
will be evidence that they can learn from their mistakes and I will
then be able to support the war. Until then, I will use Liberals own
rhetoric against them.

Yep. It is in fact. Obama be a war monger too. So suck it up dim-wit
fleabaggers, Obama just said Bush was right so tow THE Obama line now ya
all hear.....

Didn't big mouth THE Obama "In Debt We Trust!" also say he was going to
end the war? Oh well, just another liar politician with no brains, just
lies.

It's over... Obama has checked out on the world. He is just on vacation
and it's gone too far, I don't think he can save it now... Good.

I had no doubt. To save the US now starts with "Well boys, we have to
roll up our sleeves and we have a very long road ahead of us...."

On 23/03/2011 4:41 AM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article80081ca9-837d-41e6-bbbd-2597befae4c4
@s9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...
On Mar 22, 8:20 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:53:52 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
The price for my support for Obama s war is the admission by liberals
that Bush was right. Otherwise, we are logically forced to conclude
that liberal policies involving deaths of US servicemen is driven
purely by US politics. If they will admit that Bush was right, it
will be evidence that they can learn from their mistakes and I will
then be able to support the war. Until then, I will use Liberals own
rhetoric against them.
Afghanistan: Bush was right.

Iraq: Bush was a 100% gold plated ball bearing idiot.

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Unless you agree that Bush was right in Iraq then logically you cannot
support Obama's war in Libya. However, one should never try to
confuse a liberal with logic. Let's try slogans.
NO WAR FOR OIL
I support the troops, I do not support the war. Bring them home.
Yes, pilots are troops.
How many civilians have to die for Obama's lust for oil?
We should all urge 18 year old kids NOT to sign up for the military
because otherwise they will have to fight in Obama's Oil War.

This is way to honest and logical for those on the left...


Frogwatch, Canuck and Snotty Ingersoll - uninformed, ignorant, and full
of hate.

Sure beats being a fleabagger loaded with greed, envy, carelessness,
slander, lack of moral judgement.... you know fleabaggers.

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:19:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2011 5:57 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:43:10 -0600,
wrote:

Didn't big mouth THE Obama "In Debt We Trust!" also say he was going to
end the war? Oh well, just another liar politician with no brains, just
lies.


number of troops in iraq when bush was pres

150,000

number under obama

50,000

Well he just dumped a billion or more debt-dollars into Libya.

which comes out of DoD money already spent. and he's dumping the war
onto the french and norwegians.

let them run it.

On 24/03/2011 10:26 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:45:03 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:19:09 -0600,
wrote:

On 22/03/2011 5:57 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:43:10 -0600,
wrote:

Didn't big mouth THE Obama "In Debt We Trust!" also say he was going to
end the war? Oh well, just another liar politician with no brains, just
lies.


number of troops in iraq when bush was pres

150,000

number under obama

50,000

Well he just dumped a billion or more debt-dollars into Libya.

which comes out of DoD money already spent. and he's dumping the war
onto the french and norwegians.

let them run it.


This is just part of the stimulus package. Raytheon will have to
replace all of those fired Tomahawks and the sub contractors spread
out across the US. They may even get Boing/MD to build a few if they
still have a contract. That gets a few more congressional districts in
the action.

This "dumping it on the French" is a nice subterfuge politically in
the US but the French do not have that good a reputation in North
Africa. This could blow up in our face.
I am sure Qdaffy is already spinning this as the European
recolonization of Africa and if that catches hold, we could hit a
wall.
Politically, this is a lot more complicated than simply huddled masses
yearning to be free.
These dictators may have been nasty SOBs but they were our nasty SOBs
They pretty much agreed not to oppress anyone outside their borders,
sell the west cheap oil and leave Israel alone.
We really can't afford to lose any of those bargains.

Agreed, it is more complex, and much of it we have not been told.

My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite. Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family
member to take a hike.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

Nope, this is a purely political war of politicians egos.

Our governments have become far too big for anyones good.

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says...

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:45:03 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:19:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2011 5:57 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:43:10 -0600,
wrote:

Didn't big mouth THE Obama "In Debt We Trust!" also say he was going to
end the war? Oh well, just another liar politician with no brains, just
lies.


number of troops in iraq when bush was pres

150,000

number under obama

50,000

Well he just dumped a billion or more debt-dollars into Libya.

which comes out of DoD money already spent. and he's dumping the war
onto the french and norwegians.

let them run it.


This is just part of the stimulus package. Raytheon will have to
replace all of those fired Tomahawks and the sub contractors spread
out across the US. They may even get Boing/MD to build a few if they
still have a contract. That gets a few more congressional districts in
the action.

This "dumping it on the French" is a nice subterfuge politically in
the US but the French do not have that good a reputation in North
Africa. This could blow up in our face.
I am sure Qdaffy is already spinning this as the European
recolonization of Africa and if that catches hold, we could hit a
wall.
Politically, this is a lot more complicated than simply huddled masses
yearning to be free.
These dictators may have been nasty SOBs but they were our nasty SOBs
They pretty much agreed not to oppress anyone outside their borders,
sell the west cheap oil and leave Israel alone.
We really can't afford to lose any of those bargains.

Qadaffi-lover, eh?
Sure, you can go against the Arab street.
Maybe strafe and bomb the Libyan "freedom-fighters" too.
See how many AQ recruits that gets you.
You're living in the past.
The times they are a-changin'.

Canuck57 wrote:


My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite. Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family member
to take a hike.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

Nope, this is a purely political war of politicians egos.

Our governments have become far too big for anyones good.


Your posts make you "sound" like a clone of Michelle Bachmann.

That's not a compliment.