Support for Obama's war
 

In article ,
says...

Canuck57 wrote:


My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite. Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family member
to take a hike.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

Nope, this is a purely political war of politicians egos.

Our governments have become far too big for anyones good.


Your posts make you "sound" like a clone of Michelle Bachmann.

That's not a compliment.

Who boy.. we are not surprised. You're typical tactic is to attack
whoever happens to be in the news cycle that day. Your opinions are
completely devoid of thought or integerity, nobody here cares who you
and the DNC attack today...

Support for Obama's war
 

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
Canuck57 wrote:

My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite. Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family member
to take a hike.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

Nope, this is a purely political war of politicians egos.

Our governments have become far too big for anyones good.

Your posts make you "sound" like a clone of Michelle Bachmann.

That's not a compliment.

Who boy.. we are not surprised. You're typical tactic is to attack
whoever happens to be in the news cycle that day. Your opinions are
completely devoid of thought or integerity, nobody here cares who you
and the DNC attack today...


It figures that the newsgroup moron, Scotty Ingersoll, would come to the
defense of the House of Representatives moron, Michele Bachmann.

Is Bachmann in the news cycle today? I'll have to go check...

Support for Obama's war
 

On 24/03/2011 11:24 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:


My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite. Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family member
to take a hike.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

Nope, this is a purely political war of politicians egos.

Our governments have become far too big for anyones good.


Your posts make you "sound" like a clone of Michelle Bachmann.

That's not a compliment.

Don't get her up here in Kanada. Will have to look her up on the web.

So how is Biden doing on moving for impeachment? And Ron Paul?

Sounds like Obama thinks he does not have to listen to congress. Maybe
congress needs to rub Obama nose into the constitution for a bit until
Obama understands democracy.

Support for Obama's war
 

On 24/03/2011 12:33 PM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
Canuck57 wrote:

My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite. Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family
member
to take a hike.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

Nope, this is a purely political war of politicians egos.

Our governments have become far too big for anyones good.

Your posts make you "sound" like a clone of Michelle Bachmann.

That's not a compliment.

Who boy.. we are not surprised. You're typical tactic is to attack
whoever happens to be in the news cycle that day. Your opinions are
completely devoid of thought or integerity, nobody here cares who you
and the DNC attack today...


It figures that the newsgroup moron, Scotty Ingersoll, would come to the
defense of the House of Representatives moron, Michele Bachmann.

Is Bachmann in the news cycle today? I'll have to go check...

You fleabagers want to criticize Michele Bachmann?

First, you might want to clean house of democratic deadwould like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyo3hIOwskI

I can only imagine just how stupid the constituants must be to vote for
this peace of work. Total emabarasement. If democrats were at all
serious, they would boot this trash out of their party. But then again,
lots of trash democrats would vote for him....

Proves democrats are stupid. As this guy is dumber than a mushroom.

Support for Obama's war
 

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:17:26 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2011 5:57 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:45:05 -0600,
wrote:

On 22/03/2011 5:13 PM, Harryk wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
The price for my support for Obama’s war is the admission by liberals
that Bush was right.

No one gives a flying f*ck about your support for Obama.

I think, except for fleabaggers; we have open contempt for Obama, not
support and certainy no respect either. The man is only good at
standing on a soap box, all talk and no walk.

no doubt you think this 'cuz he's black.

You suggested it. So is that an excuse or a reason?

you tell me. you're the ku klux clown

Support for Obama's war
 

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:26:16 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:45:03 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:19:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

Well he just dumped a billion or more debt-dollars into Libya.

which comes out of DoD money already spent. and he's dumping the war
onto the french and norwegians.

let them run it.


This is just part of the stimulus package. Raytheon will have to
replace all of those fired Tomahawks and the sub contractors spread
out across the US. They may even get Boing/MD to build a few if they
still have a contract. That gets a few more congressional districts in
the action.

works for me. of course the GOP will now demand medicare cuts to pay
for the missles


This "dumping it on the French" is a nice subterfuge politically in
the US but the French do not have that good a reputation in North
Africa.

yeah and our reputation is stellar, right?


This could blow up in our face.
I am sure Qdaffy is already spinning this as the European
recolonization of Africa and if that catches hold, we could hit a
wall.

it's already blowing up in our face. this is the consequence of
supporting crazed dictators for generations

Politically, this is a lot more complicated than simply huddled masses
yearning to be free.
These dictators may have been nasty SOBs but they were our nasty SOBs
They pretty much agreed not to oppress anyone outside their borders,
sell the west cheap oil and leave Israel alone.
We really can't afford to lose any of those bargains.

and yet we will. we cant stop it. history happens

Support for Obama's war
 

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:56:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



Agreed, it is more complex, and much of it we have not been told.

My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite.

i hope. that way obama continues to be seen as he is. a man of peace


Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

so you think all we have to do is to continue to support crazed
dictators and everything's gonna be alright

proof? well none.


Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family
member to take a hike.

go ahead and live in your fantasy world. i suppose in your world,
japanese reactors never have partial meltdowns either




So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

and you believe this because gaddhafi said it.

uh huh

Support for Obama's war
 

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:24:39 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:


Unless you agree that Bush was right in Iraq then logically you cannot
support Obama's war in Libya.

remind me...how many UN mandates did bush have for iraq?

oh. none.


However, one should never try to
confuse a liberal with logic. Let's try slogans.
NO WAR FOR OIL

number of troops in libya?

zero

Support for Obama's war
 

On 24/03/2011 4:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:56:51 -0600,
wrote:



Agreed, it is more complex, and much of it we have not been told.

My guess is this, Obama tried to talk to Gadafi like he did with Egypt.
But Gadafi told Obama to fly a kite.

i hope. that way obama continues to be seen as he is. a man of peace

Obama is a war monger. Mumbarek was polite. Gadhafi probably told
Obama to f- himself. So Obama sends him a cruise missile in an
assassination attempt.

Obama has a wild ego so he would
immediately support his assassination. France, it is easy, just look at
the rich aristocracy in France, Total Oil and others for the answer. It
is about colonialization. France knows a new succession leader might
just do a Venezuela like takeover. Canada has interest there but UK and
Canda are just US/UN ftag alongs.

so you think all we have to do is to continue to support crazed
dictators and everything's gonna be alright

proof? well none.

The cruise missile says it all.

Saudi/Arab, it is a nice diversion to take attention off of the real
carnage to unarmed civilians n Yemen and Behrain. Further, Gadafi never
really fit in to the Arab oil racketeering cartels so Saudi view him as
a victim of convenience. Maybe adafi even told a Bin Laden family
member to take a hike.

go ahead and live in your fantasy world. i suppose in your world,
japanese reactors never have partial meltdowns either

You mean like Three Mile Island, the GE designed reactors in Japan, you
got 23 exactly like them in your back yard. Even more if you count
similar models. You might not want to be so smug.

So in the end it is more of politicial grudge war and deception. It
isn't about oil, Libya is less than 2%, Canada, Brazil and others can
make that up. It isn't about freedom, these are armed rebels with
al-Qaeda ties, hardly democracy.

and you believe this because gaddhafi said it.

uh huh

Nope, I follow the energy markets. I even have stocks in companies that
do business in Libya. Almost got there myself once back in the early
80's when I used to have to work for a living, but now invest.

In fact, I used this to add to my positions in some select buying
opportunities. Already made money too.

If it is about freedom and democracy, Yemen and Behrain would not be
ignored. They are actually worse shape. No, Obama, UN, France and
Saudi -- they want Gadafi out so they can keep it a nice subservient
colonial place and a little ego satisfaction.

Support for Obama's war
 

On 24/03/2011 3:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:06:03 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:


Well he just dumped a billion or more debt-dollars into Libya.

which comes out of DoD money already spent. and he's dumping the war
onto the french and norwegians.

let them run it.


This is just part of the stimulus package. Raytheon will have to
replace all of those fired Tomahawks and the sub contractors spread
out across the US. They may even get Boing/MD to build a few if they
still have a contract. That gets a few more congressional districts in
the action.

This "dumping it on the French" is a nice subterfuge politically in
the US but the French do not have that good a reputation in North
Africa. This could blow up in our face.
I am sure Qdaffy is already spinning this as the European
recolonization of Africa and if that catches hold, we could hit a
wall.
Politically, this is a lot more complicated than simply huddled masses
yearning to be free.
These dictators may have been nasty SOBs but they were our nasty SOBs
They pretty much agreed not to oppress anyone outside their borders,
sell the west cheap oil and leave Israel alone.
We really can't afford to lose any of those bargains.

Qadaffi-lover, eh?
Sure, you can go against the Arab street.
Maybe strafe and bomb the Libyan "freedom-fighters" too.
See how many AQ recruits that gets you.
You're living in the past.
The times they are a-changin'.

I don't want to strafe and bomb anyone, yet we are.
I don't have any particular like for Qdaffy but I do understand he was
quietly sitting in his palace, not really bothering anyone, much like
Mubarak.
We don't have a clue who will be taking over in any of these countries
but the Israelis are nervous and that is enough to make me nervous. If
anything happens, we will be right in the middle of it.

Actually we do. Muslim Brotherhood for Egypt is a forerunner for Egypt.
Rebels are al-Qaeda allies, so a more radical Islam there. One less
large ally to the US there as bet the next Egypt moves away from the US.

Obama supporters like to ignore the immutable fact, but Mubarak was
elected!! And had over 50% popular support, but the 30% angry minority
toppled the government.

Every dictator, every elected leader, every government in the world no
longer trusts the USA. As in essence Obama is deposing of foreign
leaders. UN usually tries to get UN-colonial puppets to replace them
but we will see. A NWO type parachuted into US polics. And people
bought it. Beware, they will try this again next time, get a puppet
president, a UN arse kisser.

Hamas are up to their old tricks, perhaps Israel should just evict them.
Run them off like rodents.

I don't know if US news shows it, but China and Russia are now unified
allies against US-UN aggression. This is the same kind of crap that
happened pre-WW II with Germany, Italy, Japan.... we could be a step
closer to WW III. And this time US is Germany, a bad currency/debt
situation being the aggressor....