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Frogwatch[_2_] March 19th 11 07:39 PM

No blood for oil
 
Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Canuck57[_9_] March 19th 11 08:51 PM

No blood for oil
 
On 19/03/2011 1:39 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.


Nope, Libya does not produce enough oil for this. Brazil could easily
make up for the loss of Libya oil. Canada could too.

Nope, the real problem here is some kind of alliance between Euro elite
(mostly french war industrialists) and powerful, Saudi and the American
war machine.

Even French Giuana is getting into trouble. Rwanda may start up, a
UN-Frech installed rgime. Ivory Coast, local guy fights with UN-puppet
for control.

And the UN is majority controled by dictators, arabs and muslims. More
like someone is trying to engineer a united Africa and a united Middle
East. Under UN, US and Frech control of course, with the Saudi money
buddies pulling the strings.

As for todays good guy, just don't want to tick off the wrong people or
you become tommowows tyrant and evil person to oust.

Looks like congress is sitting on the sidelines with this too. If I was
a congress person I would be livid right now, a prsident going to war
without congress? Whee is democracy? I was thinking it is in the
toilet and flushing...

Frogwatch[_2_] March 19th 11 09:50 PM

No blood for oil
 
On Mar 19, 4:51*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/03/2011 1:39 PM, Frogwatch wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? *It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. *Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). *France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.


Nope, Libya does not produce enough oil for this. *Brazil could easily
make up for the loss of Libya oil. *Canada could too.

Nope, the real problem here is some kind of alliance between Euro elite
(mostly french war industrialists) and powerful, Saudi and the American
war machine.

Even French Giuana is getting into trouble. *Rwanda may start up, a
UN-Frech installed rgime. *Ivory Coast, local guy fights with UN-puppet
for control.

And the UN is majority controled by dictators, arabs and muslims. *More
like someone is trying to engineer a united Africa and a united Middle
East. *Under UN, US and Frech control of course, with the Saudi money
buddies pulling the strings.

As for todays good guy, just don't want to tick off the wrong people or
you become tommowows tyrant and evil person to oust.

Looks like congress is sitting on the sidelines with this too. *If I was
a congress person I would be livid right now, a prsident going to war
without congress? *Whee is democracy? *I was thinking it is in the
toilet and flushing...


You notice that Obama did nothing until the Libyan oil stopped flowing
and then he goes to war? No, no relationship there.

Canuck57[_9_] March 19th 11 10:40 PM

No blood for oil
 
On 19/03/2011 3:50 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Mar 19, 4:51 pm, wrote:
On 19/03/2011 1:39 PM, Frogwatch wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.


Nope, Libya does not produce enough oil for this. Brazil could easily
make up for the loss of Libya oil. Canada could too.

Nope, the real problem here is some kind of alliance between Euro elite
(mostly french war industrialists) and powerful, Saudi and the American
war machine.

Even French Giuana is getting into trouble. Rwanda may start up, a
UN-Frech installed rgime. Ivory Coast, local guy fights with UN-puppet
for control.

And the UN is majority controled by dictators, arabs and muslims. More
like someone is trying to engineer a united Africa and a united Middle
East. Under UN, US and Frech control of course, with the Saudi money
buddies pulling the strings.

As for todays good guy, just don't want to tick off the wrong people or
you become tommowows tyrant and evil person to oust.

Looks like congress is sitting on the sidelines with this too. If I was
a congress person I would be livid right now, a prsident going to war
without congress? Whee is democracy? I was thinking it is in the
toilet and flushing...


You notice that Obama did nothing until the Libyan oil stopped flowing
and then he goes to war? No, no relationship there.


US does not use much if any Lybian oil. Niger is in an uproar has oil
too. Yemen, Bahrain... Nope, this definitly has more to do with
politics than just oil.

Maybe Gadafi told an Imam to go to hell. Now that I would believe.
Hey, it does not take US, UK, France, US and others to pounce on one
little desert country like Libya.

Sort of like a gang of bullies feeling tough as they are kicking the
crap out of someone in a school yard. Ya, big tough men are fighting
this war. /sarcasm

More to this than oil, Libya is oil, but in the big picture a small
player. Like I said, if Libya just **** down, Canada could pick up the
slack in a hear beat. So could Brazil, Venezuela. Even if the Saudis
are tapped out.

[email protected] March 19th 11 11:46 PM

No blood for oil
 
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 14:50:05 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Mar 19, 4:51*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/03/2011 1:39 PM, Frogwatch wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? *It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. *Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). *France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.


Nope, Libya does not produce enough oil for this. *Brazil could easily
make up for the loss of Libya oil. *Canada could too.

Nope, the real problem here is some kind of alliance between Euro elite
(mostly french war industrialists) and powerful, Saudi and the American
war machine.

Even French Giuana is getting into trouble. *Rwanda may start up, a
UN-Frech installed rgime. *Ivory Coast, local guy fights with UN-puppet
for control.

And the UN is majority controled by dictators, arabs and muslims. *More
like someone is trying to engineer a united Africa and a united Middle
East. *Under UN, US and Frech control of course, with the Saudi money
buddies pulling the strings.

As for todays good guy, just don't want to tick off the wrong people or
you become tommowows tyrant and evil person to oust.

Looks like congress is sitting on the sidelines with this too. *If I was
a congress person I would be livid right now, a prsident going to war
without congress? *Whee is democracy? *I was thinking it is in the
toilet and flushing...


You notice that Obama did nothing until the Libyan oil stopped flowing
and then he goes to war? No, no relationship there.


You notice that Obama didn't go in front of the UN to get a resolution
to attack a country that didn't have anything to do with us.

John H[_2_] March 20th 11 01:56 PM

No blood for oil
 
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.


Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?


Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

I_am_Tosk March 20th 11 02:31 PM

No blood for oil
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya?s oil goes thru France.


Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?


Yes, 120 missiles and three B2 bombers from Wisconsin all the way there
to Bomb, yes Obama is attacking Libya...

BAR[_2_] March 20th 11 06:44 PM

No blood for oil
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya?s oil goes thru France.


Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?


Yes. Obama gave the order to shoot around 100 Tomahawk cruise missiles
at targets in Libya. Therefore Obama attacked Libya. You may say that
the UN gave Obama permission to shoot the cruise missiles but that is
just political cover for Obama attacking Libya.



bpuharic March 20th 11 09:34 PM

No blood for oil
 
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.


wonder if he knows we dont buy libyan oil

oh well...

[email protected] March 21st 11 12:35 AM

No blood for oil
 
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:02:46 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:44:57 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya?s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?


Yes. Obama gave the order to shoot around 100 Tomahawk cruise missiles
at targets in Libya. Therefore Obama attacked Libya. You may say that
the UN gave Obama permission to shoot the cruise missiles but that is
just political cover for Obama attacking Libya.


Point well taken. You are correct, yet we have no troops on the
ground. Sense any difference from Bush????


Obama didn't lie to the UN or the US about WMDs.

Canuck57[_9_] March 21st 11 01:35 AM

No blood for oil
 
On 20/03/2011 3:34 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.


wonder if he knows we dont buy libyan oil

oh well...


Probably does not. Seems ike Obama has surounded himself with fools.
Can't have anyone smarter than the head chimp.

Todays good guy, is good only so long as he doesn't tick off the hidden
masters of US-UN-France-Saudi. If you do, they then haul up all the
dirt they have, send in a few hundred people to stir up the pot and toss
you out. Then maybe get you lynched as dead people tell no stories.

Obama knows he is a front man puppet. If he doesn't realize it, then he
must be one real dumb chimp. Because even this chimp knows it.
Americans might not see it, but US either follows or leads with other
countries in unison. Take Ottawa, US jumps, so does Canada. It is
coordianted. US nor Caanda is run by domesic voters, Obama jumps to
hidden masters. Big money types.

Bet if Osama Bin Laddens brother called up Obama on an urgent financial
or politial reason Obama would answer. Or if the head of
Harvard...Oxford....Bilderbergs.

[email protected] March 21st 11 03:14 AM

No blood for oil
 
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.


Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?


Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.


Two years? From when he decided to go after Saddam, perhaps. Other
that you're just rewriting the facts.

jps March 21st 11 07:31 AM

No blood for oil
 
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:02:46 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:44:57 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya?s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?


Yes. Obama gave the order to shoot around 100 Tomahawk cruise missiles
at targets in Libya. Therefore Obama attacked Libya. You may say that
the UN gave Obama permission to shoot the cruise missiles but that is
just political cover for Obama attacking Libya.


Point well taken. You are correct, yet we have no troops on the
ground. Sense any difference from Bush????


Obama hasn't mobilized half our military force around Libya in
anticipation of a campaign.

jps March 21st 11 07:33 AM

No blood for oil
 
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:59:05 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:35:11 -0700, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:02:46 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:44:57 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya?s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Obama gave the order to shoot around 100 Tomahawk cruise missiles
at targets in Libya. Therefore Obama attacked Libya. You may say that
the UN gave Obama permission to shoot the cruise missiles but that is
just political cover for Obama attacking Libya.


Point well taken. You are correct, yet we have no troops on the
ground. Sense any difference from Bush????


Obama didn't lie to the UN or the US about WMDs.


I've posted an number of responses... and I've received few
rebuttals...

not that Obama has received a pass, but he has been forthcoming....

a shame Bush didn't take the same path...


Bush is an excuse maker. Spoiled child who never learned to take
responsibility for his actions.

BAR[_2_] March 21st 11 11:02 AM

No blood for oil
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:35:11 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:02:46 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:44:57 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya?s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Obama gave the order to shoot around 100 Tomahawk cruise missiles
at targets in Libya. Therefore Obama attacked Libya. You may say that
the UN gave Obama permission to shoot the cruise missiles but that is
just political cover for Obama attacking Libya.


Point well taken. You are correct, yet we have no troops on the
ground. Sense any difference from Bush????


Obama didn't lie to the UN or the US about WMDs.


I've posted an number of responses... and I've received few
rebuttals...

not that Obama has received a pass, but he has been forthcoming....

a shame Bush didn't take the same path...


A UN agency said that Iraq had WMD's.

John H[_2_] March 21st 11 03:30 PM

No blood for oil
 
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?


Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.


Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?


Is Obama done with Libya? Cruise missiles and bombers are the same as we saw
over Baghdad on day one.

What is his objective?

Hey Gene, this is pointless. You will support your guy, even if he changed his
name to Bush. You can have him.

I see a hell of a lot of hypocrisy in the liberals today.

Here, do some reading. It's interesting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/doug-b..._b_838049.html

I'll just sit back and watch. You and the plume can do your thing.

Canuck57[_9_] March 21st 11 06:09 PM

No blood for oil
 
On 21/03/2011 11:39 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:14:00 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.


Two years? From when he decided to go after Saddam, perhaps. Other
that you're just rewriting the facts.


Two years of no fly zones, following 8 years under Clinton and over a
year with GHWB.

The question is, what is our exit strategy in Libya?

We don't seem to have one for any of our other military adventures and
we are still in all of them.


Obama is going to use this as an excuse with Congress to continue his
out of control debt-spending. Nothing worse than a liberla-debtor in
debtors denial. Congress should just say balanced budget, you run out
of money you are closed down.

Then the real steps toward recovery will occur.

[email protected] March 21st 11 06:40 PM

No blood for oil
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:39:33 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:14:00 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.


Two years? From when he decided to go after Saddam, perhaps. Other
that you're just rewriting the facts.


Two years of no fly zones, following 8 years under Clinton and over a
year with GHWB.

The question is, what is our exit strategy in Libya?

We don't seem to have one for any of our other military adventures and
we are still in all of them.


So, because Bush couldn't tell the truth or plan that means Obama is
going to commit us to an endless war? Perhaps you should read the news
instead of relying on Fox.

[email protected] March 21st 11 06:40 PM

No blood for oil
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:09:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 21/03/2011 11:39 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:14:00 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.

Two years? From when he decided to go after Saddam, perhaps. Other
that you're just rewriting the facts.


Two years of no fly zones, following 8 years under Clinton and over a
year with GHWB.

The question is, what is our exit strategy in Libya?

We don't seem to have one for any of our other military adventures and
we are still in all of them.


Obama is going to use this as an excuse with Congress to continue his
out of control debt-spending. Nothing worse than a liberla-debtor in
debtors denial. Congress should just say balanced budget, you run out
of money you are closed down.

Then the real steps toward recovery will occur.


So, when Obama called for PayGo and the Republicans said no, I guess
that makes it Obama's fault in your tiny brain.

Canuck57[_9_] March 21st 11 07:02 PM

No blood for oil
 
On 21/03/2011 12:40 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:09:57 -0600,
wrote:

On 21/03/2011 11:39 AM,
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:14:00 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.

Two years? From when he decided to go after Saddam, perhaps. Other
that you're just rewriting the facts.

Two years of no fly zones, following 8 years under Clinton and over a
year with GHWB.

The question is, what is our exit strategy in Libya?

We don't seem to have one for any of our other military adventures and
we are still in all of them.


Obama is going to use this as an excuse with Congress to continue his
out of control debt-spending. Nothing worse than a liberla-debtor in
debtors denial. Congress should just say balanced budget, you run out
of money you are closed down.

Then the real steps toward recovery will occur.


So, when Obama called for PayGo and the Republicans said no, I guess
that makes it Obama's fault in your tiny brain.


Obama, pay as you go? Who are you kidding?

PAYGO is meaningless other than the name only. You verspend $ 1.6
trillion a year and you call that pay as you go? Geez....I could sell
you a pile of common rocks and call them diamonds....

Pay as you go as opposed to Obama's lips a moving means you spend at or
less that what you take in. Obama lies. The fleabagger ways, lie, lie,
lie, then deny. And when that doesn't work make exuses.

Watch, Obama will be over budget shortly and he will either deny or make
excuses.

I_am_Tosk March 21st 11 07:14 PM

No blood for oil
 
Geeze....I could sell
you a pile of common rocks and call them diamonds....


Sounds kind of like the last presidential election;) snerk



[email protected] March 21st 11 07:27 PM

No blood for oil
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:02:46 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 21/03/2011 12:40 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:09:57 -0600,
wrote:

On 21/03/2011 11:39 AM,
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:14:00 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.

Two years? From when he decided to go after Saddam, perhaps. Other
that you're just rewriting the facts.

Two years of no fly zones, following 8 years under Clinton and over a
year with GHWB.

The question is, what is our exit strategy in Libya?

We don't seem to have one for any of our other military adventures and
we are still in all of them.

Obama is going to use this as an excuse with Congress to continue his
out of control debt-spending. Nothing worse than a liberla-debtor in
debtors denial. Congress should just say balanced budget, you run out
of money you are closed down.

Then the real steps toward recovery will occur.


So, when Obama called for PayGo and the Republicans said no, I guess
that makes it Obama's fault in your tiny brain.


Obama, pay as you go? Who are you kidding?

PAYGO is meaningless other than the name only. You verspend $ 1.6
trillion a year and you call that pay as you go? Geez....I could sell
you a pile of common rocks and call them diamonds....

Pay as you go as opposed to Obama's lips a moving means you spend at or
less that what you take in. Obama lies. The fleabagger ways, lie, lie,
lie, then deny. And when that doesn't work make exuses.

Watch, Obama will be over budget shortly and he will either deny or make
excuses.


You're an idiot. It's exactly what was used previously, and it worked
fine.

[email protected] March 21st 11 07:28 PM

No blood for oil
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:43:56 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:50:55 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.


What? Which 2 years?


The 2 years he simply maintained the no fly zones. (that were already
9 years old).

We will be left with the same question here. What do we do if Qdaffy
is still there in 11 years, simply oppressing his people up close and
personal, not by air power?

We were told the Iraq no fly zones were to save the Kurds with the
implication that the Northern Alliance could topple Saddam on the
ground. We all seem to forget that part.

My bet, we dig up the terror link again and invade to "get the
terrorists" like we did in Afghanistan. We know there is one there.
The Brits sent al-Megrahi back for oil leases.


You're talking about GWB???? While he lied to the world about Saddam?
That's your argument? Good grief.

Boating All Out March 21st 11 08:31 PM

No blood for oil
 
In article ,
says...


They are now saying the main source, a British asset who never talked
to the US, was a fraud. It is interesting that Blair is not getting
more of the blame.
All of the things Powell was saying at the UN (mobile weapons labs and
WMD accidents that killed a number of workers) came from the Brits.


The main "source" for mobile weapons labs "intelligence" was Curveball.
Curveball was a German "asset."
An embezzler, possibly alcoholic, looking for a green card.
He was discredited totally by UN weapons inspectors before the war was
launched.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.


This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!



[email protected] March 21st 11 08:59 PM

No blood for oil
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:31:48 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


They are now saying the main source, a British asset who never talked
to the US, was a fraud. It is interesting that Blair is not getting
more of the blame.
All of the things Powell was saying at the UN (mobile weapons labs and
WMD accidents that killed a number of workers) came from the Brits.


The main "source" for mobile weapons labs "intelligence" was Curveball.
Curveball was a German "asset."
An embezzler, possibly alcoholic, looking for a green card.
He was discredited totally by UN weapons inspectors before the war was
launched.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.


This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!


Blair certainly has blood on his hands, but for this country,
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell (in a lesser role) promoted this "intel" as
the excuse to go to war, with no actual corroborating evidence.

They have equal if not a greater amount of blood on their hands.

bpuharic March 21st 11 09:45 PM

No blood for oil
 
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:35:03 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 20/03/2011 3:34 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:


wonder if he knows we dont buy libyan oil

oh well...


Probably does not. Seems ike Obama has surounded himself with fools.
Can't have anyone smarter than the head chimp.


racist. do you often call black guys 'chimps'??


Obama knows he is a front man puppet


HAHAHAAAH bush lived in cheney's BVD's, sucking his ass!

more racism!


If he doesn't realize it, then he
must be one real dumb chimp. Because even this chimp knows it.
Americans might not see it, but US either follows or leads with other
countries in unison. Take Ottawa, US jumps, so does Canada. It is
coordianted. US nor Caanda is run by domesic voters, Obama jumps to
hidden masters. Big money types.


try taking off your hood to type next time


Bet if Osama Bin Laddens brother called up Obama on an urgent financial
or politial reason Obama would answer. Or if the head of
Harvard...Oxford....Bilderbergs.


Canuck57[_9_] March 21st 11 10:07 PM

No blood for oil
 
On 21/03/2011 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:40:55 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:09:57 -0600,
wrote:

On 21/03/2011 11:39 AM,
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:14:00 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.

Two years? From when he decided to go after Saddam, perhaps. Other
that you're just rewriting the facts.

Two years of no fly zones, following 8 years under Clinton and over a
year with GHWB.

The question is, what is our exit strategy in Libya?

We don't seem to have one for any of our other military adventures and
we are still in all of them.

Obama is going to use this as an excuse with Congress to continue his
out of control debt-spending. Nothing worse than a liberla-debtor in
debtors denial. Congress should just say balanced budget, you run out
of money you are closed down.

Then the real steps toward recovery will occur.


So, when Obama called for PayGo and the Republicans said no, I guess
that makes it Obama's fault in your tiny brain.


If paygo doesn't apply to the entitlements and the DoD budget it is
about as significant as cutting the NPR budget.


Paygo is so full of holes it isn't funny. Sort of like saying you have
to balance the budget unless you put it on the credit card.

It is a raving joke. Not worth the time, effort or piece of paper it is
written on.

I still stand by Congress should just say balance the budget, no new
debt - end of discussion.

I put more credence to a crack or herion addict that says they will quit
3 years from now, now give me more dope.

Canuck57[_9_] March 21st 11 10:12 PM

No blood for oil
 
On 21/03/2011 3:45 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:35:03 -0600,
wrote:

On 20/03/2011 3:34 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:


wonder if he knows we dont buy libyan oil

oh well...


Probably does not. Seems ike Obama has surounded himself with fools.
Can't have anyone smarter than the head chimp.


racist. do you often call black guys 'chimps'??


Obama knows he is a front man puppet


HAHAHAAAH bush lived in cheney's BVD's, sucking his ass!

more racism!


If he doesn't realize it, then he
must be one real dumb chimp. Because even this chimp knows it.
Americans might not see it, but US either follows or leads with other
countries in unison. Take Ottawa, US jumps, so does Canada. It is
coordianted. US nor Caanda is run by domesic voters, Obama jumps to
hidden masters. Big money types.


try taking off your hood to type next time


Bet if Osama Bin Laddens brother called up Obama on an urgent financial
or politial reason Obama would answer. Or if the head of
Harvard...Oxford....Bilderbergs.


I call all humans chimps, so? Chimps come in lots of varieties. So are
you a black panther or what? Yep, humans and chimps share a lot of DNA,
so much so you could say humans are a variety of chimps.

Trouble with you fleabaggers is you always use slander and race as an
exuse for your inabilities to think rationally. Pathtic variety of
chimp actually.

Harryk March 21st 11 10:29 PM

No blood for oil
 
Canuck57 wrote:
On 21/03/2011 3:45 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:35:03 -0600,
wrote:

On 20/03/2011 3:34 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:


wonder if he knows we dont buy libyan oil

oh well...

Probably does not. Seems ike Obama has surounded himself with fools.
Can't have anyone smarter than the head chimp.


racist. do you often call black guys 'chimps'??


Obama knows he is a front man puppet


HAHAHAAAH bush lived in cheney's BVD's, sucking his ass!

more racism!


If he doesn't realize it, then he
must be one real dumb chimp. Because even this chimp knows it.
Americans might not see it, but US either follows or leads with other
countries in unison. Take Ottawa, US jumps, so does Canada. It is
coordianted. US nor Caanda is run by domesic voters, Obama jumps to
hidden masters. Big money types.


try taking off your hood to type next time


Bet if Osama Bin Laddens brother called up Obama on an urgent financial
or politial reason Obama would answer. Or if the head of
Harvard...Oxford....Bilderbergs.


I call all humans chimps, so? Chimps come in lots of varieties. So are
you a black panther or what? Yep, humans and chimps share a lot of DNA,
so much so you could say humans are a variety of chimps.

Trouble with you fleabaggers is you always use slander and race as an
exuse for your inabilities to think rationally. Pathtic variety of chimp
actually.



Wait a minute. *You* think you think rationally? You and Froggy are the
most irrational "thinkers" I've ever encountered in usenet. Hell, man,
when it comes to logical, rational thinking, you are seven cans short of
a six pack.



Boating All Out March 21st 11 11:37 PM

No blood for oil
 
In article ,
says...


The Brits were still parroting his stories and fed the information to
Powell.


A lot of this "independent confirmation" was the same false info making
the rounds through the intel agencies of different countries.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.


This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!


I never said Bush et al were not at fault. That is the part you all
miss. I think the whole ****up in Iraq was unnecessary.
We should have left in 1991. Every president since then shares some of
the blame.


Got news for you. GW Bush invaded Iraq.
Nobody else.
You sure want to blame everybody else for the Iraq war.

Obama said he would stop both wars yet he clings to the same schedule
"the idiot" came up with. It makes you wonder who the idiot (or the
liar) really is.


GW Bush invaded Iraq. Nobody else. I see only one idiot.
GW Bush and crew lied. I see only those liars.
Obama never said he would "stop both wars" on a dime. That's crazy.
The only schedule "the idiot" had for Iraq troop withdrawal was the one
Maliki made him swallow and he cut that deal before he left office.
Obama's honoring that. All troops out of Iraq by the end of this year.
So Obama "lied" about his 16 month campaign withdrawal plan.
He decided to listen to military advisers like Petraeus instead of the
likes of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et al.
So just vote for his opponent in '12 and see how that goes.
GW Bush never wanted a timetable for anything. You forgot?
There was mo timetable for Afghanistan before Obama.
Afghanistan troop draw down starts in July and complete exit by 2014.
Obama caught all kinds of hell from left and right for that.
"Too long" from the left, and "we want endless war" from the right.
You can blame Obama for whatever happens in Afghanistan.
He's got absolutely not a ****ing thing to do with starting the Iraq
war, nor did Reagan, Bush I, or Clinton.
No matter what bull**** you come up with to defend GW Bush and his
crowd.



Canuck57[_9_] March 21st 11 11:54 PM

No blood for oil
 
On 21/03/2011 4:06 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:28:52 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:43:56 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:50:55 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.

What? Which 2 years?

The 2 years he simply maintained the no fly zones. (that were already
9 years old).

We will be left with the same question here. What do we do if Qdaffy
is still there in 11 years, simply oppressing his people up close and
personal, not by air power?

We were told the Iraq no fly zones were to save the Kurds with the
implication that the Northern Alliance could topple Saddam on the
ground. We all seem to forget that part.

My bet, we dig up the terror link again and invade to "get the
terrorists" like we did in Afghanistan. We know there is one there.
The Brits sent al-Megrahi back for oil leases.


You're talking about GWB???? While he lied to the world about Saddam?
That's your argument? Good grief.


Try to stay on subject, I know it is hard for you.


We are still in Afghanistan "just to get the terrorists" and Bush has
been gone over 2 years.
Clinton kept is in Iraq for 8 years looking for the same WMD you say
Bush lied about.

The point is, when we go in, we won't leave.


The only real war US has won by itself is WW II Japan. That being said,
ego presidents always have excuses to flex the militay mussle, but few
have the courage to follow it to a conclusion.

Canuck57[_9_] March 21st 11 11:56 PM

No blood for oil
 
On 21/03/2011 4:29 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 21/03/2011 3:45 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:35:03 -0600,
wrote:

On 20/03/2011 3:34 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:


wonder if he knows we dont buy libyan oil

oh well...

Probably does not. Seems ike Obama has surounded himself with fools.
Can't have anyone smarter than the head chimp.

racist. do you often call black guys 'chimps'??


Obama knows he is a front man puppet

HAHAHAAAH bush lived in cheney's BVD's, sucking his ass!

more racism!


If he doesn't realize it, then he
must be one real dumb chimp. Because even this chimp knows it.
Americans might not see it, but US either follows or leads with other
countries in unison. Take Ottawa, US jumps, so does Canada. It is
coordianted. US nor Caanda is run by domesic voters, Obama jumps to
hidden masters. Big money types.

try taking off your hood to type next time


Bet if Osama Bin Laddens brother called up Obama on an urgent financial
or politial reason Obama would answer. Or if the head of
Harvard...Oxford....Bilderbergs.


I call all humans chimps, so? Chimps come in lots of varieties. So are
you a black panther or what? Yep, humans and chimps share a lot of DNA,
so much so you could say humans are a variety of chimps.

Trouble with you fleabaggers is you always use slander and race as an
exuse for your inabilities to think rationally. Pathtic variety of chimp
actually.



Wait a minute. *You* think you think rationally? You and Froggy are the
most irrational "thinkers" I've ever encountered in usenet. Hell, man,
when it comes to logical, rational thinking, you are seven cans short of
a six pack.


Must be sad to be a fleabagger.

[email protected] March 22nd 11 12:02 AM

No blood for oil
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:43:19 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:40:55 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:09:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 21/03/2011 11:39 AM,
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:14:00 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.

Two years? From when he decided to go after Saddam, perhaps. Other
that you're just rewriting the facts.

Two years of no fly zones, following 8 years under Clinton and over a
year with GHWB.

The question is, what is our exit strategy in Libya?

We don't seem to have one for any of our other military adventures and
we are still in all of them.

Obama is going to use this as an excuse with Congress to continue his
out of control debt-spending. Nothing worse than a liberla-debtor in
debtors denial. Congress should just say balanced budget, you run out
of money you are closed down.

Then the real steps toward recovery will occur.


So, when Obama called for PayGo and the Republicans said no, I guess
that makes it Obama's fault in your tiny brain.


If paygo doesn't apply to the entitlements and the DoD budget it is
about as significant as cutting the NPR budget.


"Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan and former Congressional
Budget Office (CBO) director Dan L. Crippen have pointed to PAYGO as
instrumental in establishing the fiscal discipline that gradually
decreased the deficit during the 1990s and ultimately led to large
surpluses."

[email protected] March 22nd 11 12:03 AM

No blood for oil
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:41:25 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:40:01 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:39:33 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:14:00 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.

Two years? From when he decided to go after Saddam, perhaps. Other
that you're just rewriting the facts.

Two years of no fly zones, following 8 years under Clinton and over a
year with GHWB.

The question is, what is our exit strategy in Libya?

We don't seem to have one for any of our other military adventures and
we are still in all of them.


So, because Bush couldn't tell the truth or plan that means Obama is
going to commit us to an endless war? Perhaps you should read the news
instead of relying on Fox.



MSNBC is not being any kinder about this war.


Which has nothing to do with your assertion.

[email protected] March 22nd 11 12:05 AM

No blood for oil
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:06:43 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:28:52 -0700,
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:43:56 -0400,
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:50:55 -0400, Gene
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400,
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John H
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400, Gene
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
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Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.

What? Which 2 years?

The 2 years he simply maintained the no fly zones. (that were already
9 years old).

We will be left with the same question here. What do we do if Qdaffy
is still there in 11 years, simply oppressing his people up close and
personal, not by air power?

We were told the Iraq no fly zones were to save the Kurds with the
implication that the Northern Alliance could topple Saddam on the
ground. We all seem to forget that part.

My bet, we dig up the terror link again and invade to "get the
terrorists" like we did in Afghanistan. We know there is one there.
The Brits sent al-Megrahi back for oil leases.


You're talking about GWB???? While he lied to the world about Saddam?
That's your argument? Good grief.


Try to stay on subject, I know it is hard for you.


Try and get back to actual facts. Bush lied, practically destroyed
this country, and caused the deaths of 1000s of our brave troops for
no reason.


We are still in Afghanistan "just to get the terrorists" and Bush has
been gone over 2 years.


It's a stabilization effort despite your claims.

Clinton kept is in Iraq for 8 years looking for the same WMD you say
Bush lied about.


Yet, nobody died, and he was successful in getting Saddam to quit
their production.

The point is, when we go in, we won't leave.


The point is that you have no basis for that statement.

[email protected] March 22nd 11 12:06 AM

No blood for oil
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:33:47 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:59:02 -0700,
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:31:48 -0500, Boating All Out
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In article ,
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They are now saying the main source, a British asset who never talked
to the US, was a fraud. It is interesting that Blair is not getting
more of the blame.
All of the things Powell was saying at the UN (mobile weapons labs and
WMD accidents that killed a number of workers) came from the Brits.


The main "source" for mobile weapons labs "intelligence" was Curveball.
Curveball was a German "asset."
An embezzler, possibly alcoholic, looking for a green card.
He was discredited totally by UN weapons inspectors before the war was
launched.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.

This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!


Blair certainly has blood on his hands, but for this country,
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell (in a lesser role) promoted this "intel" as
the excuse to go to war, with no actual corroborating evidence.

They have equal if not a greater amount of blood on their hands.


That is getting closer to the truth. You also had people in congress,
including plenty of Democrats beating the war drum


After having been fed lies from Bush/Cheney... sure.

[email protected] March 22nd 11 12:08 AM

No blood for oil
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:31:33 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:31:48 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


They are now saying the main source, a British asset who never talked
to the US, was a fraud. It is interesting that Blair is not getting
more of the blame.
All of the things Powell was saying at the UN (mobile weapons labs and
WMD accidents that killed a number of workers) came from the Brits.


The main "source" for mobile weapons labs "intelligence" was Curveball.
Curveball was a German "asset."
An embezzler, possibly alcoholic, looking for a green card.
He was discredited totally by UN weapons inspectors before the war was
launched.


The Brits were still parroting his stories and fed the information to
Powell.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.


This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!


I never said Bush et al were not at fault. That is the part you all
miss. I think the whole ****up in Iraq was unnecessary.
We should have left in 1991. Every president since then shares some of
the blame.
Obama said he would stop both wars yet he clings to the same schedule
"the idiot" came up with. It makes you wonder who the idiot (or the
liar) really is.


Completely untrue. He's implemented a complete withdrawal of combat
troops as per the agreement with the Iraqi gov't. The remaining forces
are winding down. It's clear who the idiot was... Bush. It's clear who
told him what to do.. Cheney, the other war criminal.

Canuck57[_9_] March 22nd 11 12:53 AM

No blood for oil
 
On 21/03/2011 6:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:43:19 -0400,
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:40:55 -0700,
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:09:57 -0600,
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On 21/03/2011 11:39 AM,
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:14:00 -0700,
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.

Two years? From when he decided to go after Saddam, perhaps. Other
that you're just rewriting the facts.

Two years of no fly zones, following 8 years under Clinton and over a
year with GHWB.

The question is, what is our exit strategy in Libya?

We don't seem to have one for any of our other military adventures and
we are still in all of them.

Obama is going to use this as an excuse with Congress to continue his
out of control debt-spending. Nothing worse than a liberla-debtor in
debtors denial. Congress should just say balanced budget, you run out
of money you are closed down.

Then the real steps toward recovery will occur.

So, when Obama called for PayGo and the Republicans said no, I guess
that makes it Obama's fault in your tiny brain.


If paygo doesn't apply to the entitlements and the DoD budget it is
about as significant as cutting the NPR budget.


"Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan and former Congressional
Budget Office (CBO) director Dan L. Crippen have pointed to PAYGO as
instrumental in establishing the fiscal discipline that gradually
decreased the deficit during the 1990s and ultimately led to large
surpluses."


Well that isn't pay as you go. Pay as you go is when you have real
money, and are not running in currency debt. That is, spending is less
than revenue. And Obama wants this long after his 8th year -- which
hopefully the fool will never see.

Pay as you go mean you spend less than your revnue. And that includes
servicing the DEBT.

Hey, the rest is bu11sh1t from the fleabaggers.

Look for gasoline and food to go up 15% shortly just to show you the
effects of creating new inflationary ponzi debt dollars like sheets of
toilet paper buys you.

Want a bet oil goes up 1% tomorrow? Might be 2%.... me, I am laughing
all the way to th bank as my biggest holdings are REAL oilfields.

Ponzi liberal-socialism, screws the unaware every time.

How many barrels of oil are you worth?

Canuck57[_9_] March 22nd 11 12:55 AM

No blood for oil
 
On 21/03/2011 4:33 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:59:02 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:31:48 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In ,
says...


They are now saying the main source, a British asset who never talked
to the US, was a fraud. It is interesting that Blair is not getting
more of the blame.
All of the things Powell was saying at the UN (mobile weapons labs and
WMD accidents that killed a number of workers) came from the Brits.


The main "source" for mobile weapons labs "intelligence" was Curveball.
Curveball was a German "asset."
An embezzler, possibly alcoholic, looking for a green card.
He was discredited totally by UN weapons inspectors before the war was
launched.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.

This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!


Blair certainly has blood on his hands, but for this country,
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell (in a lesser role) promoted this "intel" as
the excuse to go to war, with no actual corroborating evidence.

They have equal if not a greater amount of blood on their hands.


That is getting closer to the truth. You also had people in congress,
including plenty of Democrats beating the war drum


Democrats are stupid, they still think they can debt spend their way out
of a debt problem. Between the lot they don't have half a brain.

Boating All Out March 22nd 11 01:24 AM

No blood for oil
 
In article ,
says...


So Obama "lied" about his 16 month campaign withdrawal plan.
He decided to listen to military advisers like Petraeus instead of the
likes of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et al.


They still came up with the same plan


Show me Obama's plan to invade Iraq.


Afghanistan is pretty much all Obama when he expanded the war instead
of winding it down. The lie there is that we are still "going after
Bin Laden" and it is as egregious as the WMD lie, (that I
acknowledge).

You and Plume can't seem to accept that I was against BOTH wars.
You assume that if I think Obama is wrong that I must think Bush was
right. They were BOTH wrong, along with Clinton and the elder Bush.
When Saddam withdrew from Kuwait, our job was done there.

The idea that we have any business in any country's civil war keeps
biting us on the ass and we never learn.


You go on and keep spitting in the wind with that peacenik stuff.
World doesn't work that way and it won't for a long time.
Your problem is that good old false equivalency trap.
Still saying Bush I, Clinton, GW Bush and Obama are one and the same.
I guess they all had 2 legs and a left hand, I'll give you that.
Doesn't matter when the differences are laid out in front of you.
Doesn't matter that only one of 'em invaded Iraq.
They're just all the same to you.
You can't help yourself.
Since I don't think you're stupid the only answer is you got a soft spot
for good old boy GW Bush. Good luck with that.



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