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On 3/13/2011 2:37 PM, WaIIy wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:54:26 -0400, wrote: On 3/12/11 11:31 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:43:05 -0800, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: Subject Bigotry, night and day you torture me. Lew Sorry, I posted this to the wrong group. alt.whitepower? "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Martin Luther King - Dream Speech The words affirmative action would have him rolling over in his grave. |
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:51:40 -0400, Ernie wrote:
On 3/13/2011 2:37 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:54:26 -0400, wrote: On 3/12/11 11:31 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:43:05 -0800, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: Subject Bigotry, night and day you torture me. Lew Sorry, I posted this to the wrong group. alt.whitepower? "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Martin Luther King - Dream Speech The words affirmative action would have him rolling over in his grave. Having been a victim of discrimination, he'd have welcomed a program that'd help reintegrate blacks into mainstream society. That was what affirmative action was meant to do. Like any policy, it probably strayed a bit too far in one direction or another, but the basic premise was a good one and worthy of pursuit. We've come a long ways since "strange fruit" hung in the south for no reason but we're by no means cured. |
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On 3/13/2011 4:37 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:51:40 -0400, wrote: On 3/13/2011 2:37 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:54:26 -0400, wrote: On 3/12/11 11:31 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:43:05 -0800, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: Subject Bigotry, night and day you torture me. Lew Sorry, I posted this to the wrong group. alt.whitepower? "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Martin Luther King - Dream Speech The words affirmative action would have him rolling over in his grave. Having been a victim of discrimination, he'd have welcomed a program that'd help reintegrate blacks into mainstream society. That was what affirmative action was meant to do. Like any policy, it probably strayed a bit too far in one direction or another, but the basic premise was a good one and worthy of pursuit. We've come a long ways since "strange fruit" hung in the south for no reason but we're by no means cured. MLK said nothing about pushing folks to the head of the line because they are black. He wanted equal oportunities based on character and intelligence. It is a simple sentence and still you don't get it. |
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:59:18 -0400, Ernie wrote:
On 3/13/2011 4:37 PM, jps wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:51:40 -0400, wrote: On 3/13/2011 2:37 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:54:26 -0400, wrote: On 3/12/11 11:31 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:43:05 -0800, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: Subject Bigotry, night and day you torture me. Lew Sorry, I posted this to the wrong group. alt.whitepower? "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Martin Luther King - Dream Speech The words affirmative action would have him rolling over in his grave. Having been a victim of discrimination, he'd have welcomed a program that'd help reintegrate blacks into mainstream society. That was what affirmative action was meant to do. Like any policy, it probably strayed a bit too far in one direction or another, but the basic premise was a good one and worthy of pursuit. We've come a long ways since "strange fruit" hung in the south for no reason but we're by no means cured. MLK said nothing about pushing folks to the head of the line because they are black. He wanted equal oportunities based on character and intelligence. It is a simple sentence and still you don't get it. I'm not the one who doesn't get it. Whites still have an unfair advantage in this country and you've got to be deaf, dumb and blind not to recognize it. You just don't want to admit it. |
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On 3/13/2011 5:17 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:59:18 -0400, wrote: On 3/13/2011 4:37 PM, jps wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:51:40 -0400, wrote: On 3/13/2011 2:37 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:54:26 -0400, wrote: On 3/12/11 11:31 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:43:05 -0800, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: Subject Bigotry, night and day you torture me. Lew Sorry, I posted this to the wrong group. alt.whitepower? "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Martin Luther King - Dream Speech The words affirmative action would have him rolling over in his grave. Having been a victim of discrimination, he'd have welcomed a program that'd help reintegrate blacks into mainstream society. That was what affirmative action was meant to do. Like any policy, it probably strayed a bit too far in one direction or another, but the basic premise was a good one and worthy of pursuit. We've come a long ways since "strange fruit" hung in the south for no reason but we're by no means cured. MLK said nothing about pushing folks to the head of the line because they are black. He wanted equal oportunities based on character and intelligence. It is a simple sentence and still you don't get it. I'm not the one who doesn't get it. Whites still have an unfair advantage in this country and you've got to be deaf, dumb and blind not to recognize it. You just don't want to admit it. The thread started out about having to lower passing grade on tests so folks with lower IQs could pass them. Once they are able to pass the tests, the quotas kick in. So why bother with testing at all? |
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On Mar 13, 6:46*pm, Gene wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:17:26 -0700, jps wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:59:18 -0400, Ernie wrote: On 3/13/2011 4:37 PM, jps wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:51:40 -0400, *wrote: On 3/13/2011 2:37 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:54:26 -0400, wrote: On 3/12/11 11:31 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:43:05 -0800, "Lew Hodgett" * *wrote: Subject Bigotry, night and day you torture me. Lew Sorry, I posted this to the wrong group. alt.whitepower? "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." * *Martin Luther King - Dream Speech The words affirmative action would have him rolling over in his grave. Having been a victim of discrimination, he'd have welcomed a program that'd help reintegrate blacks into mainstream society. *That was what affirmative action was meant to do. *Like any policy, it probably strayed a bit too far in one direction or another, but the basic premise was a good one and worthy of pursuit. We've come a long ways since "strange fruit" hung in the south for no reason but we're by no means cured. MLK said nothing about pushing folks to the head of the line because they are black. He wanted equal oportunities based on character and intelligence. It is a simple sentence and still you don't get it. I'm not the one who doesn't get it. *Whites still have an unfair advantage in this country and you've got to be deaf, dumb and blind not to recognize it. You just don't want to admit it. You have, obviously, never done social work..... drop the party line, rub your eyes and check it out.... this is 2011 and your president isn't a WASP... -- Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." * - Unknown Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What is beyond sick is folks like JPS who continue to use the race card as an election tool. This will inevidably make things worse for race relations as time goes on and folks start to get ****ed at the inequality. It only leads to punative govt organizations like Obama's "Justice" (sic) Dept... To listen to these ideologues play race card just to "bully" others who don't see things their way, is just sick... |
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:46:09 -0400, Gene
wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:17:26 -0700, jps wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:59:18 -0400, Ernie wrote: On 3/13/2011 4:37 PM, jps wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:51:40 -0400, wrote: On 3/13/2011 2:37 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:54:26 -0400, wrote: On 3/12/11 11:31 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:43:05 -0800, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: Subject Bigotry, night and day you torture me. Lew Sorry, I posted this to the wrong group. alt.whitepower? "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Martin Luther King - Dream Speech The words affirmative action would have him rolling over in his grave. Having been a victim of discrimination, he'd have welcomed a program that'd help reintegrate blacks into mainstream society. That was what affirmative action was meant to do. Like any policy, it probably strayed a bit too far in one direction or another, but the basic premise was a good one and worthy of pursuit. We've come a long ways since "strange fruit" hung in the south for no reason but we're by no means cured. MLK said nothing about pushing folks to the head of the line because they are black. He wanted equal oportunities based on character and intelligence. It is a simple sentence and still you don't get it. I'm not the one who doesn't get it. Whites still have an unfair advantage in this country and you've got to be deaf, dumb and blind not to recognize it. You just don't want to admit it. You have, obviously, never done social work..... drop the party line, rub your eyes and check it out.... this is 2011 and your president isn't a WASP... Gene, I live in a city that's well-educated and progressive. Our city is deeply divided by color and economics and the kids in the central district are in schools that are signficantly inferior to those in middle-class and higher neighborhoods. This is the same problem faced by city after city in America. Without something specific being done about it, opportunity is less available to children of color and specifically black children. If you think hiring practices don't favor whites, you're wrong. If you don't think a person of color is automatically considered a higher risk for being a shoplifter, you're wrong. If you think that blacks aren't 2 to 3 times more likely to be pulled over by police, you're wrong. If you think that blacks aren't systematically given longer sentences for similar crimes, you're wrong. That Obama was elected was an amazing moment and stride forward for our country. For you to assume in any way that represents our emergence from bigotry and systematic undercutting of opportunity for blacks is really naive. Anyone can pull themselves up by the bootstraps, but it's significantly harder for any black to do so when compared to a white. When that's no longer true, perhaps we'll agree. |
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:19:08 -0400, Ernie wrote:
On 3/13/2011 5:17 PM, jps wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:59:18 -0400, wrote: On 3/13/2011 4:37 PM, jps wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:51:40 -0400, wrote: On 3/13/2011 2:37 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:54:26 -0400, wrote: On 3/12/11 11:31 PM, WaIIy wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:43:05 -0800, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: Subject Bigotry, night and day you torture me. Lew Sorry, I posted this to the wrong group. alt.whitepower? "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Martin Luther King - Dream Speech The words affirmative action would have him rolling over in his grave. Having been a victim of discrimination, he'd have welcomed a program that'd help reintegrate blacks into mainstream society. That was what affirmative action was meant to do. Like any policy, it probably strayed a bit too far in one direction or another, but the basic premise was a good one and worthy of pursuit. We've come a long ways since "strange fruit" hung in the south for no reason but we're by no means cured. MLK said nothing about pushing folks to the head of the line because they are black. He wanted equal oportunities based on character and intelligence. It is a simple sentence and still you don't get it. I'm not the one who doesn't get it. Whites still have an unfair advantage in this country and you've got to be deaf, dumb and blind not to recognize it. You just don't want to admit it. The thread started out about having to lower passing grade on tests so folks with lower IQs could pass them. Once they are able to pass the tests, the quotas kick in. So why bother with testing at all? I didn't have the privilege of seeing the earlier posts. For some reason, rec.boats was brought in later in the thread. |
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On 3/13/11 10:03 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
"I grew up in a town where black and white all got the same education..." You should apply for a refund. |
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On 3/14/2011 6:38 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/13/11 10:03 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: "I grew up in a town where black and white all got the same education..." You should apply for a refund. Correct. It's likely he didn't get full value from his education. Public schools are diploma factories. |
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On 3/14/11 7:13 AM, Ernie wrote:
On 3/14/2011 6:38 AM, Harryk wrote: On 3/13/11 10:03 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: "I grew up in a town where black and white all got the same education..." You should apply for a refund. Correct. It's likely he didn't get full value from his education. Public schools are diploma factories. That's just more right-wing Faux News bulldork. Public schools deal with lots of problems and have lots of problems, but there are plenty of students who are doing well at those facilities, and plenty of students who could be doing better with smaller class sizes, individualized instruction and parents who took an active role in the education of their kids. Scott Ingersoll obviously had his mind on pussy or booze or crank during his public school years. He wasn't paying attention in class. |
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On 3/14/2011 7:25 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/14/11 7:13 AM, Ernie wrote: On 3/14/2011 6:38 AM, Harryk wrote: On 3/13/11 10:03 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: "I grew up in a town where black and white all got the same education..." You should apply for a refund. Correct. It's likely he didn't get full value from his education. Public schools are diploma factories. That's just more right-wing Faux News bulldork. Public schools deal with lots of problems and have lots of problems, but there are plenty of students who are doing well at those facilities, and plenty of students who could be doing better with smaller class sizes, individualized instruction and parents who took an active role in the education of their kids. Scott Ingersoll obviously had his mind on pussy or booze or crank during his public school years. He wasn't paying attention in class. You are a boor. |
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On 3/14/11 7:45 AM, Ernie wrote:
On 3/14/2011 7:25 AM, Harryk wrote: On 3/14/11 7:13 AM, Ernie wrote: On 3/14/2011 6:38 AM, Harryk wrote: On 3/13/11 10:03 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: "I grew up in a town where black and white all got the same education..." You should apply for a refund. Correct. It's likely he didn't get full value from his education. Public schools are diploma factories. That's just more right-wing Faux News bulldork. Public schools deal with lots of problems and have lots of problems, but there are plenty of students who are doing well at those facilities, and plenty of students who could be doing better with smaller class sizes, individualized instruction and parents who took an active role in the education of their kids. Scott Ingersoll obviously had his mind on pussy or booze or crank during his public school years. He wasn't paying attention in class. You are a boor. Well, thank you, Ernie. Love your new handle. It isn't often I'm so nicely complimented by one of drooling, mouth-breathing, mindless right-wingers here. |
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On 3/14/11 8:03 AM, BAR wrote:
It is only amazing to those who see people's skin as their single identifying characteristic. Most of us on the right looked past his skin color and found out that he was a left leaning if not falling left on the ground type of guy. We decided that we didn't want a Marxist in the White House. However everyone else was enamored with the half white and half black guy and you all voted for him despite our warnings, which have come true. 1. Obama isn't a Marxist. 2. By today's right-wing extremist standards, Dwight Eisenhower and Richard Nixon were left-leaners. 3. Your warnings? What? Vote instead for Old Man McCain and his crazy as bat**** sidekick Sarah Palin? Bush left this country in a bloody awful mess. Obama is at least trying to rescue it. He hasn't done enough, but that's because of the right-wing extremists in Congress. |
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On 3/14/2011 7:48 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/14/11 7:45 AM, Ernie wrote: On 3/14/2011 7:25 AM, Harryk wrote: On 3/14/11 7:13 AM, Ernie wrote: On 3/14/2011 6:38 AM, Harryk wrote: On 3/13/11 10:03 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: "I grew up in a town where black and white all got the same education..." You should apply for a refund. Correct. It's likely he didn't get full value from his education. Public schools are diploma factories. That's just more right-wing Faux News bulldork. Public schools deal with lots of problems and have lots of problems, but there are plenty of students who are doing well at those facilities, and plenty of students who could be doing better with smaller class sizes, individualized instruction and parents who took an active role in the education of their kids. Scott Ingersoll obviously had his mind on pussy or booze or crank during his public school years. He wasn't paying attention in class. You are a boor. Well, thank you, Ernie. Love your new handle. It isn't often I'm so nicely complimented by one of drooling, mouth-breathing, mindless right-wingers here. Just trying to be civil. You should give it a shot. |
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On 3/14/11 8:28 AM, Ernie wrote:
On 3/14/2011 7:48 AM, Harryk wrote: On 3/14/11 7:45 AM, Ernie wrote: On 3/14/2011 7:25 AM, Harryk wrote: On 3/14/11 7:13 AM, Ernie wrote: On 3/14/2011 6:38 AM, Harryk wrote: On 3/13/11 10:03 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: "I grew up in a town where black and white all got the same education..." You should apply for a refund. Correct. It's likely he didn't get full value from his education. Public schools are diploma factories. That's just more right-wing Faux News bulldork. Public schools deal with lots of problems and have lots of problems, but there are plenty of students who are doing well at those facilities, and plenty of students who could be doing better with smaller class sizes, individualized instruction and parents who took an active role in the education of their kids. Scott Ingersoll obviously had his mind on pussy or booze or crank during his public school years. He wasn't paying attention in class. You are a boor. Well, thank you, Ernie. Love your new handle. It isn't often I'm so nicely complimented by one of drooling, mouth-breathing, mindless right-wingers here. Just trying to be civil. You should give it a shot. If you want to be "civil," you should enroll in a class that teaches you what being "civil" entails. Now, before you think you've got a clever comeback by posting that *I* am not civil, I want to assure you that I am, but not necessarily in usenet, which, over the years has devolved into the snakepit it is today. |
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On 3/14/2011 8:38 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/14/11 8:28 AM, Ernie wrote: On 3/14/2011 7:48 AM, Harryk wrote: On 3/14/11 7:45 AM, Ernie wrote: On 3/14/2011 7:25 AM, Harryk wrote: On 3/14/11 7:13 AM, Ernie wrote: On 3/14/2011 6:38 AM, Harryk wrote: On 3/13/11 10:03 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: "I grew up in a town where black and white all got the same education..." You should apply for a refund. Correct. It's likely he didn't get full value from his education. Public schools are diploma factories. That's just more right-wing Faux News bulldork. Public schools deal with lots of problems and have lots of problems, but there are plenty of students who are doing well at those facilities, and plenty of students who could be doing better with smaller class sizes, individualized instruction and parents who took an active role in the education of their kids. Scott Ingersoll obviously had his mind on pussy or booze or crank during his public school years. He wasn't paying attention in class. You are a boor. Well, thank you, Ernie. Love your new handle. It isn't often I'm so nicely complimented by one of drooling, mouth-breathing, mindless right-wingers here. Just trying to be civil. You should give it a shot. If you want to be "civil," you should enroll in a class that teaches you what being "civil" entails. Now, before you think you've got a clever comeback by posting that *I* am not civil, I want to assure you that I am, but not necessarily in usenet, which, over the years has devolved into the snakepit it is today. You are what you post. |
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@mypacks.net says... More spew from Harry Krause, of 2015 Rosedale Lane Huntington Maryland.. Phone410-535-1594 or 202-365-0164 Harry Krause is a dangerous man if you have children, even his own children abandoned him to protect their babies from his sick pedophile fantasias. Harry Krause thinks it's perfectly ok for a old man like himself to rape your little baby as young as 10 years old and spirit her off over state lines to hide the crime from the parents of authorities. He also thinks it's ok to shoot anybody who comes on his property "including police officers".. if they are not clearly announced.. This is a sick man who is stalking me, hopefully if you live close to him, you will watch your own children.... |
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@mypacks.net says... More spew from Harry Krause, of 2015 Rosedale Lane Huntington Maryland.. Phone410-535-1594 or 202-365-0164 Harry Krause is a dangerous man if you have children, even his own children abandoned him to protect their babies from his sick pedophile fantasies. Harry Krause thinks it's perfectly ok for a old man like himself to rape your little baby as young as 10 years old and spirit her off over state lines to hide the crime from the parents of authorities. He also thinks it's ok to shoot anybody who comes on his property "including police officers".. if they are not clearly announced.. This is a sick man who is stalking me, hopefully if you live close to him, you will watch your own children.... |
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On 3/14/11 10:18 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... On 3/13/11 10:03 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: "I grew up in a town where black and white all got the same education..." You should apply for a refund. You should stay under your desk Harry Krause of Huntington Maryland and stop stalking families with small children. You are a ****ing pedophile and it sure makes regular folks uncomfortable when Harry Krause of Huntington Maryland is stalking them... The more times you post this nonsense, the bat****tier you sound, Ingersoll. What you cannot deny is that you are an ignorant, uneducated, unemployable moron. Those are the facts. The "facts" you try to spew about me are just nonsense. Try something else. |
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On 3/14/11 10:24 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , sa You are a boor. More spew from Harry Krause, of 2015 Rosedale Lane Huntington Maryland.. Phone410-535-1594 or 202-365-0164 Harry Krause is a dangerous man if you have children, even his own children abandoned him to protect their babies from his sick pedophile fantasies. Harry Krause thinks it's perfectly ok for a old man like himself to rape your little baby as young as 10 years old and spirit her off over state lines to hide the crime from the parents of authorities. He also thinks it's ok to shoot anybody who comes on his property "including police officers".. if they are not clearly announced.. This is a sick man who is stalking me, hopefully if you live close to him, you will watch your own children.... snerk You seem on the edge of a stroke. Hope it happens, and soon. Meanwhile, your fantasies about me are just fantasies. |
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@mypacks.net says... More spew from Harry Krause, of 2015 Rosedale Lane Huntington Maryland.. Phone410-535-1594 or 202-365-0164 Harry Krause is a dangerous man if you have children, even his own children abandoned him to protect their babies from his sick pedophile fantasies. Harry Krause thinks it's perfectly ok for a old man like himself to rape your little baby as young as 10 years old and spirit her off over state lines to hide the crime from the parents of authorities. He also thinks it's ok to shoot anybody who comes on his property "including police officers".. if they are not clearly announced.. This is a sick man who is stalking me, hopefully if you live close to him, you will watch your own children.... Anybody who has read this group for more than a few months knows what a sick pervert you are.... I can't imagine how fast your kids got out and away from those fried chicken stained greasy fingers... |
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:10:24 -0400, Harryk
wrote: He hasn't done enough, but that's because of the right-wing extremists in Congress. He hasn't done enough because he lacks the leadership ability to do so. If he went on television and made a compelling case for what needed to be done, people would get the message and congress would fall in line. That's the way it has always been done by presidents who *had* leadership ability. Your guy does not. His agenda is too narrowly focused and it has cost him credibility. |
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On 3/14/11 10:32 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:10:24 -0400, wrote: He hasn't done enough, but that's because of the right-wing extremists in Congress. He hasn't done enough because he lacks the leadership ability to do so. If he went on television and made a compelling case for what needed to be done, people would get the message and congress would fall in line. That's the way it has always been done by presidents who *had* leadership ability. Your guy does not. His agenda is too narrowly focused and it has cost him credibility. Please, Wayne, the Republicans in Congress have made their agenda perfectly clear. They'll go along with virtually nothing. |
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:36:34 -0400, Harryk
wrote: Please, Wayne, the Republicans in Congress have made their agenda perfectly clear. They'll go along with virtually nothing. Like any politician they will do anything to get reelected. If their constituency gets behind something, they'll get the message. Unfortunately there has been no unifying leadership for a long time, only increased partianship and divisiveness, with lots of blame to go around. |
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On 3/14/11 11:27 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:36:34 -0400, wrote: Please, Wayne, the Republicans in Congress have made their agenda perfectly clear. They'll go along with virtually nothing. Like any politician they will do anything to get reelected. If their constituency gets behind something, they'll get the message. Unfortunately there has been no unifying leadership for a long time, only increased partianship and divisiveness, with lots of blame to go around. What you are saying was pretty much the case a decade ago. Now, the constituents of the right-wing Republicans in Congress only care about themselves, not about the welfare and prosperity of the country, and the teahadists they elected know this. The United States has been sliding down the slope in a serious fashion since Bush II took office. I'm not sure Obama or anyone else can stop the slide. The only bright spot I see on the horizon is that the Republicans are so bereft of quality candidates, they are increasingly unlikely to regain the White House in 2012. |
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On Mar 14, 11:33*am, Harryk wrote:
On 3/14/11 11:27 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:36:34 -0400, wrote: Please, Wayne, the Republicans in Congress have made their agenda perfectly clear. They'll go along with virtually nothing. Like any politician they will do anything to get reelected. * If their constituency gets behind something, they'll get the message. Unfortunately there has been no unifying leadership for a long time, only increased partianship and divisiveness, with lots of blame to go around. The only bright spot I see on the horizon is that the Republicans are so bereft of quality candidates, they are increasingly unlikely to regain the White House in 2012. One name: Mitch Daniels |
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On 3/14/11 2:30 PM, Jack. wrote:
On Mar 14, 11:33 am, wrote: On 3/14/11 11:27 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:36:34 -0400, wrote: Please, Wayne, the Republicans in Congress have made their agenda perfectly clear. They'll go along with virtually nothing. Like any politician they will do anything to get reelected. If their constituency gets behind something, they'll get the message. Unfortunately there has been no unifying leadership for a long time, only increased partianship and divisiveness, with lots of blame to go around. The only bright spot I see on the horizon is that the Republicans are so bereft of quality candidates, they are increasingly unlikely to regain the White House in 2012. One name: Mitch Daniels For a Republican, not bad, though his willingness to compromise on some issues will not help him with the teahadists, and his calls to tone down the debate over hot social issues will not endear him to the holier-than-thou evangelicals. Conservative as he is, he may well be too "liberal" to get the nomination. |
This is beyond sick - Thanks obama
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:03:38 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... Gene, I live in a city that's well-educated and progressive. Our city is deeply divided by color and economics and the kids in the central district are in schools that are signficantly inferior to those in middle-class and higher neighborhoods. Why are the schools significantly inferior to those in middle-class and higher neighborhoods. Here in the Washington, D.C. area the Washington, D.C. schools spend about $17,000 per year per student. Close to the highest per student cost in the nation and the schools are more than significantly inferior. Is the problem money? No. This is the same problem faced by city after city in America. Without something specific being done about it, opportunity is less available to children of color and specifically black children. What is the problem? Is it because they are cities and not suburbs? Is it the preponderance of single parent families? Is it because in the two parent families the parents are home when the students come home from school? Could be. If you think hiring practices don't favor whites, you're wrong. If you don't think a person of color is automatically considered a higher risk for being a shoplifter, you're wrong. If you think that blacks aren't 2 to 3 times more likely to be pulled over by police, you're wrong. If you think that blacks aren't systematically given longer sentences for similar crimes, you're wrong. Let's relax the marksmanship and driving standards. Why should we discriminate based the fact that you cant hit the target you are shooting at nor can you drive down the street without bouncing off of the cars parked on either side of the street. If you had two guys applying for a position would you lower the requirements for the position to enable more non-whites eligible for the position? That Obama was elected was an amazing moment and stride forward for our country. For you to assume in any way that represents our emergence from bigotry and systematic undercutting of opportunity for blacks is really naive. It is only amazing to those who see people's skin as their single identifying characteristic. Most of us on the right looked past his skin color and found out that he was a left leaning if not falling left on the ground type of guy. We decided that we didn't want a Marxist in the White House. However everyone else was enamored with the half white and half black guy and you all voted for him despite our warnings, which have come true. Anyone can pull themselves up by the bootstraps, but it's significantly harder for any black to do so when compared to a white. Why? When I was growing up the street I lived on had many military officers. Do you know who the most senior officer on the street was? It was the black guy. He made it to Lt. Gen in the USAF and none of the white guys on the street made it to be general officers. Out of 12 military officers the black guy was the only one promoted to General. And, this all occurred in the 70's and 80's. When that's no longer true, perhaps we'll agree. You need to stop treating people as projects and threat them as just people. It was nice receiving a bunch of money when a group of us sued the Army for their 'affirmative action' during a selection board while I was on active duty. |
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