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Frogwatch[_2_] March 12th 11 10:37 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
Tried to install the new lights on my trailer only to find all the
wiring eaten up by corrosion and all the connectors on the trailer
corroded. None of it was tinned wire. This is OEM wiring in an EZ
Loader trailer so beware.
So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?

Frogwatch[_2_] March 12th 11 11:00 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Mar 12, 5:37*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Tried to install the new lights on my trailer only to find all the
wiring eaten up by corrosion and all the connectors on the trailer
corroded. *None of it was tinned wire. *This is OEM wiring in an EZ
Loader trailer so beware.
So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


Turns out Ancor sells 4 wire tinned flat cable for use in wirinng
harnesses.

I_am_Tosk March 12th 11 11:37 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
In article a8ccf3c0-996e-4601-a0b3-22e55ecef387
@b13g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says...

Tried to install the new lights on my trailer only to find all the
wiring eaten up by corrosion and all the connectors on the trailer
corroded. None of it was tinned wire. This is OEM wiring in an EZ
Loader trailer so beware.
So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


I think you will have to make your own. I have never seen a production
one that didn't have that problem.. Like I said before, I just plan on
buying a cheap set every year and replacing them... Usually about $25-
35, the Walmart ones last just as long as West Marine ones.. All the
same ****...

Harryk March 12th 11 11:46 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/12/11 6:37 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlea8ccf3c0-996e-4601-a0b3-22e55ecef387
@b13g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says...

Tried to install the new lights on my trailer only to find all the
wiring eaten up by corrosion and all the connectors on the trailer
corroded. None of it was tinned wire. This is OEM wiring in an EZ
Loader trailer so beware.
So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


I think you will have to make your own. I have never seen a production
one that didn't have that problem.. Like I said before, I just plan on
buying a cheap set every year and replacing them... Usually about $25-
35, the Walmart ones last just as long as West Marine ones.. All the
same ****...



You buy a wiring harness for a trailer for a boat that sits rotting in
your yard, full of leaves and raccoon ****?

Harryk March 12th 11 11:49 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/12/11 6:00 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Mar 12, 5:37 pm, wrote:
Tried to install the new lights on my trailer only to find all the
wiring eaten up by corrosion and all the connectors on the trailer
corroded. None of it was tinned wire. This is OEM wiring in an EZ
Loader trailer so beware.
So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


Turns out Ancor sells 4 wire tinned flat cable for use in wirinng
harnesses.



This vendor claims it uses tinned wi

http://marineengineparts.com/shopsit...l/page177.html

L G[_30_] March 13th 11 02:36 AM

TRailer wiring harness
 
Harryk wrote:
On 3/12/11 6:37 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlea8ccf3c0-996e-4601-a0b3-22e55ecef387
@b13g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says...

Tried to install the new lights on my trailer only to find all the
wiring eaten up by corrosion and all the connectors on the trailer
corroded. None of it was tinned wire. This is OEM wiring in an EZ
Loader trailer so beware.
So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


I think you will have to make your own. I have never seen a production
one that didn't have that problem.. Like I said before, I just plan on
buying a cheap set every year and replacing them... Usually about $25-
35, the Walmart ones last just as long as West Marine ones.. All the
same ****...



You buy a wiring harness for a trailer for a boat that sits rotting in
your yard, full of leaves and raccoon ****?

He has a boat. Why the hell are you here, WAFA?

Frogwatch[_2_] March 13th 11 04:35 AM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Mar 12, 9:36*pm, L G wrote:
Harryk wrote:
On 3/12/11 6:37 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlea8ccf3c0-996e-4601-a0b3-22e55ecef387
@b13g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says...


Tried to install the new lights on my trailer only to find all the
wiring eaten up by corrosion and all the connectors on the trailer
corroded. *None of it was tinned wire. *This is OEM wiring in an EZ
Loader trailer so beware.
So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


I think you will have to make your own. I have never seen a production
one that didn't have that problem.. Like I said before, I just plan on
buying a cheap set every year and replacing them... Usually about $25-
35, the Walmart ones last just as long as West Marine ones.. All the
same ****...


You buy a wiring harness for a trailer for a boat that sits rotting in
your yard, full of leaves and raccoon ****?


He has a boat. *Why the hell are you here, WAFA?


Looks like its gonna be Ancor tinned trailer wire and the adhesive
lined supposedly salt waterproof heatshrink crimp connectors. The
weak point will continue to be the lights but at least I will know my
connections work.
This should not be rocket science. Why is is it so difficult to make
butt crimp connectors that are inserted in a snap cover filled with
silicon? I do have the type of wire nuts that are waterproof (and
expensive). They contain some gel stuff and am not sure they can be
re-used.

Wayne.B March 13th 11 02:25 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:14:28 -0400, Gene
wrote:

So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


Just make your own with quality wire and adhesive shrink fit
connectors. Silicone grease is your friend.....


Do you put silicone grease directly on the wire before making the
crimp?


HenryK[_2_] March 13th 11 02:34 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/12/2011 11:35 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Mar 12, 9:36 pm, L wrote:
Harryk wrote:
On 3/12/11 6:37 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlea8ccf3c0-996e-4601-a0b3-22e55ecef387
@b13g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says...


Tried to install the new lights on my trailer only to find all the
wiring eaten up by corrosion and all the connectors on the trailer
corroded. None of it was tinned wire. This is OEM wiring in an EZ
Loader trailer so beware.
So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


I think you will have to make your own. I have never seen a production
one that didn't have that problem.. Like I said before, I just plan on
buying a cheap set every year and replacing them... Usually about $25-
35, the Walmart ones last just as long as West Marine ones.. All the
same ****...


You buy a wiring harness for a trailer for a boat that sits rotting in
your yard, full of leaves and raccoon ****?


He has a boat. Why the hell are you here, WAFA?


Looks like its gonna be Ancor tinned trailer wire and the adhesive
lined supposedly salt waterproof heatshrink crimp connectors. The
weak point will continue to be the lights but at least I will know my
connections work.
This should not be rocket science. Why is is it so difficult to make
butt crimp connectors that are inserted in a snap cover filled with
silicon? I do have the type of wire nuts that are waterproof (and
expensive). They contain some gel stuff and am not sure they can be
re-used.


Smear the bulbs and sockets with dielectric grease. You might be tempted
to use the trailer frame as a ground, but the way various bulbs are
attached to the frame is the Achilles heal of the whole wiring setup.
When you get to a launch ramp, get in the habit of unplugging the
trailer wiring from the car and let the bulbs cool for a few minutes
before launching.

HarryisPaul March 13th 11 03:36 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
In article a8ccf3c0-996e-4601-a0b3-22e55ecef387
@b13g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says...

Tried to install the new lights on my trailer only to find all the
wiring eaten up by corrosion and all the connectors on the trailer
corroded. None of it was tinned wire. This is OEM wiring in an EZ
Loader trailer so beware.
So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


If you had a special trailer like Harry, that wouldn't happen.

HarryisPaul March 13th 11 03:37 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 3/12/11 6:37 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlea8ccf3c0-996e-4601-a0b3-22e55ecef387
@b13g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says...

Tried to install the new lights on my trailer only to find all the
wiring eaten up by corrosion and all the connectors on the trailer
corroded. None of it was tinned wire. This is OEM wiring in an EZ
Loader trailer so beware.
So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


I think you will have to make your own. I have never seen a production
one that didn't have that problem.. Like I said before, I just plan on
buying a cheap set every year and replacing them... Usually about $25-
35, the Walmart ones last just as long as West Marine ones.. All the
same ****...



You buy a wiring harness for a trailer for a boat that sits rotting in
your yard, full of leaves and raccoon ****?


At least he has one, Harry.

jps March 13th 11 04:33 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:25:00 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:14:28 -0400, Gene
wrote:

So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


Just make your own with quality wire and adhesive shrink fit
connectors. Silicone grease is your friend.....


Do you put silicone grease directly on the wire before making the
crimp?


I think he was talking about the wire pull?

Tim March 13th 11 04:51 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Mar 12, 6:37*pm, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article a8ccf3c0-996e-4601-a0b3-22e55ecef387
@b13g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says...



Tried to install the new lights on my trailer only to find all the
wiring eaten up by corrosion and all the connectors on the trailer
corroded. *None of it was tinned wire. *This is OEM wiring in an EZ
Loader trailer so beware.
So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


I think you will have to make your own. I have never seen a production
one that didn't have that problem.. Like I said before, I just plan on
buying a cheap set every year and replacing them... Usually about $25-
35, the Walmart ones last just as long as West Marine ones.. All the
same ****...


Here's another option:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...F8&me=&seller=

When i bought my parts boat, the trailer was good but the lights were
rotten. I took one of these,and mounted them portable. i towed the
boat 135 mi at 55mph and the lights held in place . . I took them off
and put them back on the shelf. you might consider this seeing you
can remove them before launching and keep them out of the brine.

jps March 13th 11 06:35 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:31:33 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:33:23 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:25:00 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:14:28 -0400, Gene
wrote:

So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?

Just make your own with quality wire and adhesive shrink fit
connectors. Silicone grease is your friend.....

Do you put silicone grease directly on the wire before making the
crimp?


I think he was talking about the wire pull?


Most wire pulls don't involve passing it through conduit.... but if
that is the case, use a proper wire pulling lubricant....


So, what are you using the silicone grease for? Are you talking about
a conductive silicone grease?

jps March 13th 11 08:32 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:48:51 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:35:05 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:31:33 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:33:23 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:25:00 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:14:28 -0400, Gene
wrote:

So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?

Just make your own with quality wire and adhesive shrink fit
connectors. Silicone grease is your friend.....

Do you put silicone grease directly on the wire before making the
crimp?

I think he was talking about the wire pull?

Most wire pulls don't involve passing it through conduit.... but if
that is the case, use a proper wire pulling lubricant....


So, what are you using the silicone grease for? Are you talking about
a conductive silicone grease?


Silicone grease is, by definition, NOT conductive.... it is a good
thermal conductor and will help keep moisture out of electrical
junctions....


So, you're applying it around the junction as a moisture barrier, not
in it, correct?

Ernie March 13th 11 09:20 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/13/2011 10:14 AM, Gene wrote:
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:37:56 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Tried to install the new lights on my trailer only to find all the
wiring eaten up by corrosion and all the connectors on the trailer
corroded. None of it was tinned wire. This is OEM wiring in an EZ
Loader trailer so beware.
So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?


Just make your own with quality wire and adhesive shrink fit
connectors. Silicone grease is your friend.....






The Ancor products previously mentioned can be had for a reasonable
price.

jps March 14th 11 08:35 AM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:40:33 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:32:41 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:48:51 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:35:05 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:31:33 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:33:23 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:25:00 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:14:28 -0400, Gene
wrote:

So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?

Just make your own with quality wire and adhesive shrink fit
connectors. Silicone grease is your friend.....

Do you put silicone grease directly on the wire before making the
crimp?

I think he was talking about the wire pull?

Most wire pulls don't involve passing it through conduit.... but if
that is the case, use a proper wire pulling lubricant....

So, what are you using the silicone grease for? Are you talking about
a conductive silicone grease?

Silicone grease is, by definition, NOT conductive.... it is a good
thermal conductor and will help keep moisture out of electrical
junctions....


So, you're applying it around the junction as a moisture barrier, not
in it, correct?


It is pretty common to have the silicone gel right in the connector
with underground splices. The mechanical pressure will squeeze it out
of the actual joint but leave the rest of the connector flooded with
silicone.


That's cool. With all the weather we get here, I think it's a good
idea for all crimps. I use silicone grease on the seals of my car top
to keep it from squeeking and have used it to reassemble ceramic
faucet parts. Good stuff.

Wayne.B March 14th 11 02:23 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:40:33 -0400, wrote:

It is pretty common to have the silicone gel right in the connector
with underground splices. The mechanical pressure will squeeze it out
of the actual joint but leave the rest of the connector flooded with
silicone.


It is also useful for prelubricating new water pump impellers, a trick
learned from my diesel mechanic. It helps with insertion and also
prevents dry start wear and tear.


Ernie March 14th 11 02:57 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/14/2011 10:23 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:40:33 -0400, wrote:

It is pretty common to have the silicone gel right in the connector
with underground splices. The mechanical pressure will squeeze it out
of the actual joint but leave the rest of the connector flooded with
silicone.


It is also useful for prelubricating new water pump impellers, a trick
learned from my diesel mechanic. It helps with insertion and also
prevents dry start wear and tear.


Apply the dielectric grease after making the mechanical connection to
insure getting a good connection.

I_am_Tosk March 14th 11 03:03 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
In article , says...

On 3/14/2011 10:23 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:40:33 -0400,
wrote:

It is pretty common to have the silicone gel right in the connector
with underground splices. The mechanical pressure will squeeze it out
of the actual joint but leave the rest of the connector flooded with
silicone.


It is also useful for prelubricating new water pump impellers, a trick
learned from my diesel mechanic. It helps with insertion and also
prevents dry start wear and tear.


Apply the dielectric grease after making the mechanical connection to
insure getting a good connection.


Has anybody tried any of that liquid electrical tape? I just noticed a
bottle in my electrical box the other day. It seems it could be a real
mess in tight places, but not as bad as trying to wrap tape in close
areas.

Wayne.B March 14th 11 03:29 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:03:23 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

Has anybody tried any of that liquid electrical tape? I just noticed a
bottle in my electrical box the other day. It seems it could be a real
mess in tight places, but not as bad as trying to wrap tape in close
areas.


It works OK as a sealer but is messy and hell to get off.


Harryk March 14th 11 03:36 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/14/11 11:29 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:03:23 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

Has anybody tried any of that liquid electrical tape? I just noticed a
bottle in my electrical box the other day. It seems it could be a real
mess in tight places, but not as bad as trying to wrap tape in close
areas.


It works OK as a sealer but is messy and hell to get off.


I use that stuff to seal/tidy up the ends of lines I've cut with a hot
knife. I dip the end of the line into the can and then let the line
drape and dry for a day.

I_am_Tosk March 14th 11 03:48 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:03:23 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

Has anybody tried any of that liquid electrical tape? I just noticed a
bottle in my electrical box the other day. It seems it could be a real
mess in tight places, but not as bad as trying to wrap tape in close
areas.


It works OK as a sealer but is messy and hell to get off.


Yeah, I'm still thinkin' my way is easier.. When the system fails, I
replace it front to back for about 30 bucks, 50 if I get them from West
Marine etc...

I can string and solder a new set of lights, even the side markers :) in
about an hour or so and I am good for another season or two if I am
lucky.

jps March 14th 11 04:44 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:30:31 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:35:06 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:40:33 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:32:41 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:48:51 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:35:05 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:31:33 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:33:23 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:25:00 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:14:28 -0400, Gene
wrote:

So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?

Just make your own with quality wire and adhesive shrink fit
connectors. Silicone grease is your friend.....

Do you put silicone grease directly on the wire before making the
crimp?

I think he was talking about the wire pull?

Most wire pulls don't involve passing it through conduit.... but if
that is the case, use a proper wire pulling lubricant....

So, what are you using the silicone grease for? Are you talking about
a conductive silicone grease?

Silicone grease is, by definition, NOT conductive.... it is a good
thermal conductor and will help keep moisture out of electrical
junctions....

So, you're applying it around the junction as a moisture barrier, not
in it, correct?

It is pretty common to have the silicone gel right in the connector
with underground splices. The mechanical pressure will squeeze it out
of the actual joint but leave the rest of the connector flooded with
silicone.


That's cool. With all the weather we get here, I think it's a good
idea for all crimps. I use silicone grease on the seals of my car top
to keep it from squeeking and have used it to reassemble ceramic
faucet parts. Good stuff.


The Dow 111 silicone works pretty good for sealing electrical stuff
(similar to spark plug boot grease) but it is sold as a plumbing lube.

I also use it to seal up PVC pipe joints that I want to be able to get
apart. As long as you have fairly low pressure (drains and swimming
pool supply pipes) it will hold. I use it for switching the 2" pipe
back and forth between the grand kid's pool sliding board and the
waterfall.


I've only been able to find it in small quantities in the plumbing
section at the big box hardware store. Have you seen it offered
retail (or wholesale) in larger quantities? Is this an electrical
warehouse item?

I_am_Tosk March 14th 11 04:47 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:03:23 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 3/14/2011 10:23 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:40:33 -0400,
wrote:

It is pretty common to have the silicone gel right in the connector
with underground splices. The mechanical pressure will squeeze it out
of the actual joint but leave the rest of the connector flooded with
silicone.

It is also useful for prelubricating new water pump impellers, a trick
learned from my diesel mechanic. It helps with insertion and also
prevents dry start wear and tear.


Apply the dielectric grease after making the mechanical connection to
insure getting a good connection.


Has anybody tried any of that liquid electrical tape? I just noticed a
bottle in my electrical box the other day. It seems it could be a real
mess in tight places, but not as bad as trying to wrap tape in close
areas.


The guys out on Pine Island swear by it if you coat the soldered joint
and slide heat shrink over it, then shrink it down until the goo
squeezes out. The theory is you start shrinking in the center working
out to force out all the air bubbles and you get a totally sealed
joint.


Sounds like it might be worth a try.

jps March 14th 11 04:58 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:44:52 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:30:31 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:35:06 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:40:33 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:32:41 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:48:51 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:35:05 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:31:33 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:33:23 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:25:00 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:14:28 -0400, Gene
wrote:

So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?

Just make your own with quality wire and adhesive shrink fit
connectors. Silicone grease is your friend.....

Do you put silicone grease directly on the wire before making the
crimp?

I think he was talking about the wire pull?

Most wire pulls don't involve passing it through conduit.... but if
that is the case, use a proper wire pulling lubricant....

So, what are you using the silicone grease for? Are you talking about
a conductive silicone grease?

Silicone grease is, by definition, NOT conductive.... it is a good
thermal conductor and will help keep moisture out of electrical
junctions....

So, you're applying it around the junction as a moisture barrier, not
in it, correct?

It is pretty common to have the silicone gel right in the connector
with underground splices. The mechanical pressure will squeeze it out
of the actual joint but leave the rest of the connector flooded with
silicone.

That's cool. With all the weather we get here, I think it's a good
idea for all crimps. I use silicone grease on the seals of my car top
to keep it from squeeking and have used it to reassemble ceramic
faucet parts. Good stuff.


The Dow 111 silicone works pretty good for sealing electrical stuff
(similar to spark plug boot grease) but it is sold as a plumbing lube.

I also use it to seal up PVC pipe joints that I want to be able to get
apart. As long as you have fairly low pressure (drains and swimming
pool supply pipes) it will hold. I use it for switching the 2" pipe
back and forth between the grand kid's pool sliding board and the
waterfall.


I've only been able to find it in small quantities in the plumbing
section at the big box hardware store. Have you seen it offered
retail (or wholesale) in larger quantities? Is this an electrical
warehouse item?


Did a google search and found lots under Dow 111 but still only in 5.3
oz tubes. I'm looking for the tub size that'll last for years.

jps March 14th 11 05:02 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:58:16 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:44:52 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:30:31 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:35:06 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:40:33 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:32:41 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:48:51 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:35:05 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:31:33 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:33:23 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:25:00 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:14:28 -0400, Gene
wrote:

So, Does anybody sell wiring harnesses with marine tinned wire or
should I simply make my own?

Just make your own with quality wire and adhesive shrink fit
connectors. Silicone grease is your friend.....

Do you put silicone grease directly on the wire before making the
crimp?

I think he was talking about the wire pull?

Most wire pulls don't involve passing it through conduit.... but if
that is the case, use a proper wire pulling lubricant....

So, what are you using the silicone grease for? Are you talking about
a conductive silicone grease?

Silicone grease is, by definition, NOT conductive.... it is a good
thermal conductor and will help keep moisture out of electrical
junctions....

So, you're applying it around the junction as a moisture barrier, not
in it, correct?

It is pretty common to have the silicone gel right in the connector
with underground splices. The mechanical pressure will squeeze it out
of the actual joint but leave the rest of the connector flooded with
silicone.

That's cool. With all the weather we get here, I think it's a good
idea for all crimps. I use silicone grease on the seals of my car top
to keep it from squeeking and have used it to reassemble ceramic
faucet parts. Good stuff.

The Dow 111 silicone works pretty good for sealing electrical stuff
(similar to spark plug boot grease) but it is sold as a plumbing lube.

I also use it to seal up PVC pipe joints that I want to be able to get
apart. As long as you have fairly low pressure (drains and swimming
pool supply pipes) it will hold. I use it for switching the 2" pipe
back and forth between the grand kid's pool sliding board and the
waterfall.


I've only been able to find it in small quantities in the plumbing
section at the big box hardware store. Have you seen it offered
retail (or wholesale) in larger quantities? Is this an electrical
warehouse item?


Did a google search and found lots under Dow 111 but still only in 5.3
oz tubes. I'm looking for the tub size that'll last for years.


Here we go...

http://www.amazon.com/Dow-Corning-11...d_sbs_indust_2

14 oz for $36 instead of .2 oz for $3.

HarryisPaul March 14th 11 05:09 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 3/14/11 11:29 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:03:23 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

Has anybody tried any of that liquid electrical tape? I just noticed a
bottle in my electrical box the other day. It seems it could be a real
mess in tight places, but not as bad as trying to wrap tape in close
areas.


It works OK as a sealer but is messy and hell to get off.


I use that stuff to seal/tidy up the ends of lines I've cut with a hot
knife. I dip the end of the line into the can and then let the line
drape and dry for a day.


Why don't you do it the correct way?

HarryisPaul March 14th 11 06:29 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:09:54 -0400, HarryisPaul wrote:

In article , payer3389
says...

On 3/14/11 11:29 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:03:23 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

Has anybody tried any of that liquid electrical tape? I just noticed a
bottle in my electrical box the other day. It seems it could be a real
mess in tight places, but not as bad as trying to wrap tape in close
areas.

It works OK as a sealer but is messy and hell to get off.


I use that stuff to seal/tidy up the ends of lines I've cut with a hot
knife. I dip the end of the line into the can and then let the line
drape and dry for a day.


Why don't you do it the correct way?


What are you thinking? A sewn whipping with sail cord or a back
splice? I like the latter.



Back splice, of course! Three strand should do nicely.

Wayne.B March 15th 11 06:30 AM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:25:41 -0400, wrote:

What are you thinking? A sewn whipping with sail cord or a back
splice? I like the latter.


A back splice is too bulky in many applications and almost always on
large lines. Sewn whipping followed by a hot knife on the end is the
best in my experience. You can get a hot knife adapter for a
soldering gun which works quite well.


Harryk March 15th 11 10:49 AM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/15/11 2:30 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:25:41 -0400, wrote:

What are you thinking? A sewn whipping with sail cord or a back
splice? I like the latter.


A back splice is too bulky in many applications and almost always on
large lines. Sewn whipping followed by a hot knife on the end is the
best in my experience. You can get a hot knife adapter for a
soldering gun which works quite well.



I've used this or something similar from other vendors for years on
lines whose ends were sealed with a hot knife.

http://tinyurl.com/4dopf9z

Also used it to mark off 25' lengths on anchor lines.

I used "sewn on" whipping when I used manila rope. The "real" whipping
looks better than the "dip'n'whip," but I'm not so anal that I spend a
lot of time thinking about the ends of lines. If they don't unravel, I'm
happy with them.

Ernie March 15th 11 12:42 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/15/2011 6:49 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 2:30 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:25:41 -0400, wrote:

What are you thinking? A sewn whipping with sail cord or a back
splice? I like the latter.


A back splice is too bulky in many applications and almost always on
large lines. Sewn whipping followed by a hot knife on the end is the
best in my experience. You can get a hot knife adapter for a
soldering gun which works quite well.



I've used this or something similar from other vendors for years on
lines whose ends were sealed with a hot knife.

http://tinyurl.com/4dopf9z

Also used it to mark off 25' lengths on anchor lines.

I used "sewn on" whipping when I used manila rope. The "real" whipping
looks better than the "dip'n'whip," but I'm not so anal that I spend a
lot of time thinking about the ends of lines. If they don't unravel, I'm
happy with them.


What do *YOU* use manila rope for.

Harryk March 15th 11 12:54 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/15/11 8:42 AM, Ernie wrote:
On 3/15/2011 6:49 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 2:30 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:25:41 -0400, wrote:

What are you thinking? A sewn whipping with sail cord or a back
splice? I like the latter.

A back splice is too bulky in many applications and almost always on
large lines. Sewn whipping followed by a hot knife on the end is the
best in my experience. You can get a hot knife adapter for a
soldering gun which works quite well.



I've used this or something similar from other vendors for years on
lines whose ends were sealed with a hot knife.

http://tinyurl.com/4dopf9z

Also used it to mark off 25' lengths on anchor lines.

I used "sewn on" whipping when I used manila rope. The "real" whipping
looks better than the "dip'n'whip," but I'm not so anal that I spend a
lot of time thinking about the ends of lines. If they don't unravel, I'm
happy with them.


What do *YOU* use manila rope for.



I'm a professional hangman, Ernie. I prefer manila because it leaves a
really nice rope burn around the neck of those the state says I should
execute. Plus, manila rope is less expensive than nylon rope, and we
corporate entities have to save every dime in order to make our
executive team richer.

Now, "Ernie," I'm about finished with you. Go play with Snotty Ingersoll
and the rest of the right-wing morons.


paul@byc March 15th 11 01:44 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/15/2011 8:54 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 8:42 AM, Ernie wrote:
On 3/15/2011 6:49 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 2:30 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:25:41 -0400, wrote:

What are you thinking? A sewn whipping with sail cord or a back
splice? I like the latter.

A back splice is too bulky in many applications and almost always on
large lines. Sewn whipping followed by a hot knife on the end is the
best in my experience. You can get a hot knife adapter for a
soldering gun which works quite well.



I've used this or something similar from other vendors for years on
lines whose ends were sealed with a hot knife.

http://tinyurl.com/4dopf9z

Also used it to mark off 25' lengths on anchor lines.

I used "sewn on" whipping when I used manila rope. The "real" whipping
looks better than the "dip'n'whip," but I'm not so anal that I spend a
lot of time thinking about the ends of lines. If they don't unravel, I'm
happy with them.


What do *YOU* use manila rope for.



I'm a professional hangman, Ernie. I prefer manila because it leaves a
really nice rope burn around the neck of those the state says I should
execute. Plus, manila rope is less expensive than nylon rope, and we
corporate entities have to save every dime in order to make our
executive team richer.

Now, "Ernie," I'm about finished with you. Go play with Snotty Ingersoll
and the rest of the right-wing morons.


A hangman? I was wondering how you pulled down those big bucks. :)

Ernie March 15th 11 01:48 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/15/2011 8:54 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 8:42 AM, Ernie wrote:
On 3/15/2011 6:49 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 2:30 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:25:41 -0400, wrote:

What are you thinking? A sewn whipping with sail cord or a back
splice? I like the latter.

A back splice is too bulky in many applications and almost always on
large lines. Sewn whipping followed by a hot knife on the end is the
best in my experience. You can get a hot knife adapter for a
soldering gun which works quite well.



I've used this or something similar from other vendors for years on
lines whose ends were sealed with a hot knife.

http://tinyurl.com/4dopf9z

Also used it to mark off 25' lengths on anchor lines.

I used "sewn on" whipping when I used manila rope. The "real" whipping
looks better than the "dip'n'whip," but I'm not so anal that I spend a
lot of time thinking about the ends of lines. If they don't unravel, I'm
happy with them.


What do *YOU* use manila rope for.



I'm a professional hangman, Ernie. I prefer manila because it leaves a
really nice rope burn around the neck of those the state says I should
execute. Plus, manila rope is less expensive than nylon rope, and we
corporate entities have to save every dime in order to make our
executive team richer.

Now, "Ernie," I'm about finished with you. Go play with Snotty Ingersoll
and the rest of the right-wing morons.


Mr Krausenstein. You certainly do have a nasty disposition. You may be
finished with me but I am not finished with you. Manila rope has a
distinct advantage over nylon. What is it? I'll give you a minute to
google the answer.

Ernie March 15th 11 02:01 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/15/2011 9:44 AM, paul@byc wrote:
On 3/15/2011 8:54 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 8:42 AM, Ernie wrote:
On 3/15/2011 6:49 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 2:30 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:25:41 -0400, wrote:

What are you thinking? A sewn whipping with sail cord or a back
splice? I like the latter.

A back splice is too bulky in many applications and almost always on
large lines. Sewn whipping followed by a hot knife on the end is the
best in my experience. You can get a hot knife adapter for a
soldering gun which works quite well.



I've used this or something similar from other vendors for years on
lines whose ends were sealed with a hot knife.

http://tinyurl.com/4dopf9z

Also used it to mark off 25' lengths on anchor lines.

I used "sewn on" whipping when I used manila rope. The "real" whipping
looks better than the "dip'n'whip," but I'm not so anal that I spend a
lot of time thinking about the ends of lines. If they don't unravel,
I'm
happy with them.

What do *YOU* use manila rope for.



I'm a professional hangman, Ernie. I prefer manila because it leaves a
really nice rope burn around the neck of those the state says I should
execute. Plus, manila rope is less expensive than nylon rope, and we
corporate entities have to save every dime in order to make our
executive team richer.

Now, "Ernie," I'm about finished with you. Go play with Snotty Ingersoll
and the rest of the right-wing morons.


A hangman? I was wondering how you pulled down those big bucks. :)


Jawohl indeed. The only big bucks Harry pulls down is when he robs his
landlady's purse. Any talent, he might have had, has dried up in the
last several years. His writing skills have devolved to the point that
he steals material from Nom De Plume.

jps March 15th 11 06:54 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:01:20 -0400, Ernie wrote:

On 3/15/2011 9:44 AM, paul@byc wrote:
On 3/15/2011 8:54 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 8:42 AM, Ernie wrote:
On 3/15/2011 6:49 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 2:30 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:25:41 -0400, wrote:

What are you thinking? A sewn whipping with sail cord or a back
splice? I like the latter.

A back splice is too bulky in many applications and almost always on
large lines. Sewn whipping followed by a hot knife on the end is the
best in my experience. You can get a hot knife adapter for a
soldering gun which works quite well.



I've used this or something similar from other vendors for years on
lines whose ends were sealed with a hot knife.

http://tinyurl.com/4dopf9z

Also used it to mark off 25' lengths on anchor lines.

I used "sewn on" whipping when I used manila rope. The "real" whipping
looks better than the "dip'n'whip," but I'm not so anal that I spend a
lot of time thinking about the ends of lines. If they don't unravel,
I'm
happy with them.

What do *YOU* use manila rope for.


I'm a professional hangman, Ernie. I prefer manila because it leaves a
really nice rope burn around the neck of those the state says I should
execute. Plus, manila rope is less expensive than nylon rope, and we
corporate entities have to save every dime in order to make our
executive team richer.

Now, "Ernie," I'm about finished with you. Go play with Snotty Ingersoll
and the rest of the right-wing morons.


A hangman? I was wondering how you pulled down those big bucks. :)


Jawohl indeed. The only big bucks Harry pulls down is when he robs his
landlady's purse. Any talent, he might have had, has dried up in the
last several years. His writing skills have devolved to the point that
he steals material from Nom De Plume.


Says talentless you? How would you recognize talent, troll?

Plonk!

Harryk March 15th 11 07:02 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
On 3/15/11 2:54 PM, jps wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:01:20 -0400, wrote:

On 3/15/2011 9:44 AM, paul@byc wrote:
On 3/15/2011 8:54 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 8:42 AM, Ernie wrote:
On 3/15/2011 6:49 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 2:30 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:25:41 -0400, wrote:

What are you thinking? A sewn whipping with sail cord or a back
splice? I like the latter.

A back splice is too bulky in many applications and almost always on
large lines. Sewn whipping followed by a hot knife on the end is the
best in my experience. You can get a hot knife adapter for a
soldering gun which works quite well.



I've used this or something similar from other vendors for years on
lines whose ends were sealed with a hot knife.

http://tinyurl.com/4dopf9z

Also used it to mark off 25' lengths on anchor lines.

I used "sewn on" whipping when I used manila rope. The "real" whipping
looks better than the "dip'n'whip," but I'm not so anal that I spend a
lot of time thinking about the ends of lines. If they don't unravel,
I'm
happy with them.

What do *YOU* use manila rope for.


I'm a professional hangman, Ernie. I prefer manila because it leaves a
really nice rope burn around the neck of those the state says I should
execute. Plus, manila rope is less expensive than nylon rope, and we
corporate entities have to save every dime in order to make our
executive team richer.

Now, "Ernie," I'm about finished with you. Go play with Snotty Ingersoll
and the rest of the right-wing morons.


A hangman? I was wondering how you pulled down those big bucks. :)


Jawohl indeed. The only big bucks Harry pulls down is when he robs his
landlady's purse. Any talent, he might have had, has dried up in the
last several years. His writing skills have devolved to the point that
he steals material from Nom De Plume.


Says talentless you? How would you recognize talent, troll?

Plonk!



Ernie is just a sockpuppet of one of the regular right-wing
conservatrashers who have ruined this newsgroup. He's the latest entry
on my D-N-R list...which either means do not resuscitate or do not read.


HarryisPaul March 15th 11 07:26 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:01:20 -0400, Ernie wrote:

On 3/15/2011 9:44 AM, paul@byc wrote:
On 3/15/2011 8:54 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 8:42 AM, Ernie wrote:
On 3/15/2011 6:49 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 2:30 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:25:41 -0400,
wrote:

What are you thinking? A sewn whipping with sail cord or a back
splice? I like the latter.

A back splice is too bulky in many applications and almost always on
large lines. Sewn whipping followed by a hot knife on the end is the
best in my experience. You can get a hot knife adapter for a
soldering gun which works quite well.



I've used this or something similar from other vendors for years on
lines whose ends were sealed with a hot knife.

http://tinyurl.com/4dopf9z

Also used it to mark off 25' lengths on anchor lines.

I used "sewn on" whipping when I used manila rope. The "real" whipping
looks better than the "dip'n'whip," but I'm not so anal that I spend a
lot of time thinking about the ends of lines. If they don't unravel,
I'm
happy with them.

What do *YOU* use manila rope for.


I'm a professional hangman, Ernie. I prefer manila because it leaves a
really nice rope burn around the neck of those the state says I should
execute. Plus, manila rope is less expensive than nylon rope, and we
corporate entities have to save every dime in order to make our
executive team richer.

Now, "Ernie," I'm about finished with you. Go play with Snotty Ingersoll
and the rest of the right-wing morons.


A hangman? I was wondering how you pulled down those big bucks. :)


Jawohl indeed. The only big bucks Harry pulls down is when he robs his
landlady's purse. Any talent, he might have had, has dried up in the
last several years. His writing skills have devolved to the point that
he steals material from Nom De Plume.


Says talentless you? How would you recognize talent, troll?

Plonk!


Good thing Harry has you to do his work for him.

HarryisPaul March 15th 11 07:27 PM

TRailer wiring harness
 
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 3/15/11 2:54 PM, jps wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:01:20 -0400, wrote:

On 3/15/2011 9:44 AM, paul@byc wrote:
On 3/15/2011 8:54 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 8:42 AM, Ernie wrote:
On 3/15/2011 6:49 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/15/11 2:30 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:25:41 -0400, wrote:

What are you thinking? A sewn whipping with sail cord or a back
splice? I like the latter.

A back splice is too bulky in many applications and almost always on
large lines. Sewn whipping followed by a hot knife on the end is the
best in my experience. You can get a hot knife adapter for a
soldering gun which works quite well.



I've used this or something similar from other vendors for years on
lines whose ends were sealed with a hot knife.

http://tinyurl.com/4dopf9z

Also used it to mark off 25' lengths on anchor lines.

I used "sewn on" whipping when I used manila rope. The "real" whipping
looks better than the "dip'n'whip," but I'm not so anal that I spend a
lot of time thinking about the ends of lines. If they don't unravel,
I'm
happy with them.

What do *YOU* use manila rope for.


I'm a professional hangman, Ernie. I prefer manila because it leaves a
really nice rope burn around the neck of those the state says I should
execute. Plus, manila rope is less expensive than nylon rope, and we
corporate entities have to save every dime in order to make our
executive team richer.

Now, "Ernie," I'm about finished with you. Go play with Snotty Ingersoll
and the rest of the right-wing morons.


A hangman? I was wondering how you pulled down those big bucks. :)

Jawohl indeed. The only big bucks Harry pulls down is when he robs his
landlady's purse. Any talent, he might have had, has dried up in the
last several years. His writing skills have devolved to the point that
he steals material from Nom De Plume.


Says talentless you? How would you recognize talent, troll?

Plonk!



Ernie is just a sockpuppet of one of the regular right-wing
conservatrashers who have ruined this newsgroup. He's the latest entry
on my D-N-R list...which either means do not resuscitate or do not read.


If the newsgroup is "ruined" what the **** are you doing here, you fat
ass?


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