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On 2/28/2011 12:12 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 2/28/2011 11:02 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: And this boat has three children. It's time for this to stop. The Navy needs to storm this boat. If the innocents are killed they need to identify the pirates, which town they are from in Somali, and eliminate it. I guarantee you do this a couple of times, and the Somalis themselves will put a stop to it... Somehow it is more civilized to let the drama continue. That there is a Global government etc that should deal with piracy as a crime with due process and Pirates rights. We have the resources to locate these people on the oceans. Sink them without asking them, about their troubled childhoods, poor villages back home, and their hopes and aspirations. Somalia is a trouble region and really is no civilized government in control of anything their gnp is probably all from piracy. Let the military deal with them as they deem wise and necessary, on the spot and no recriminations from Washington etc. No trials. Once the victims are free, put the pirates back on the mother or pirate ship and sink it. Close their ports and destroy them. they might get upset...well the victims are upset and the rest of the world is tired of it. Chances are nothing will be gained by dragging things out. Get it over with. Freeing the hostages is the hard part. |
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"Lil Abner" wrote in message ...
On 2/28/2011 11:02 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: And this boat has three children. It's time for this to stop. The Navy needs to storm this boat. If the innocents are killed they need to identify the pirates, which town they are from in Somali, and eliminate it. I guarantee you do this a couple of times, and the Somalis themselves will put a stop to it... Somehow it is more civilized to let the drama continue. That there is a Global government etc that should deal with piracy as a crime with due process and Pirates rights. We have the resources to locate these people on the oceans. Sink them without asking them, about their troubled childhoods, poor villages back home, and their hopes and aspirations. Somalia is a trouble region and really is no civilized government in control of anything their gnp is probably all from piracy. Let the military deal with them as they deem wise and necessary, on the spot and no recriminations from Washington etc. No trials. Once the victims are free, put the pirates back on the mother or pirate ship and sink it. Close their ports and destroy them. they might get upset...well the victims are upset and the rest of the world is tired of it. Reply: Solution to the piracy. Limit the fishing to within 100 miles of the shore. If a Somali boat is outside the 100 miles, they sink and die. When the Somali's decide that piracy is not worth the problems, then they can fish further out. If the pirates capture a boat inside the 100 miles, is the boats problem. They kill hostages while in Somalia, then figure how who had gotten rich in the last 5 years and kill them. |
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On 2/28/11 1:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Lil Abner" wrote in message ... On 2/28/2011 11:02 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: And this boat has three children. It's time for this to stop. The Navy needs to storm this boat. If the innocents are killed they need to identify the pirates, which town they are from in Somali, and eliminate it. I guarantee you do this a couple of times, and the Somalis themselves will put a stop to it... Somehow it is more civilized to let the drama continue. That there is a Global government etc that should deal with piracy as a crime with due process and Pirates rights. We have the resources to locate these people on the oceans. Sink them without asking them, about their troubled childhoods, poor villages back home, and their hopes and aspirations. Somalia is a trouble region and really is no civilized government in control of anything their gnp is probably all from piracy. Let the military deal with them as they deem wise and necessary, on the spot and no recriminations from Washington etc. No trials. Once the victims are free, put the pirates back on the mother or pirate ship and sink it. Close their ports and destroy them. they might get upset...well the victims are upset and the rest of the world is tired of it. Reply: Solution to the piracy. Limit the fishing to within 100 miles of the shore. If a Somali boat is outside the 100 miles, they sink and die. When the Somali's decide that piracy is not worth the problems, then they can fish further out. If the pirates capture a boat inside the 100 miles, is the boats problem. They kill hostages while in Somalia, then figure how who had gotten rich in the last 5 years and kill them. Under International Law, I doubt you can do that. How are you going to legally restrict access to the high seas? |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:17:52 -0500, Harryk
wrote: On 2/28/11 11:02 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: And this boat has three children. It's time for this to stop. The Navy needs to storm this boat. If the innocents are killed they need to identify the pirates, which town they are from in Somali, and eliminate it. I guarantee you do this a couple of times, and the Somalis themselves will put a stop to it... Let me see if I understand this. You want the Navy to storm the pirate boat and if the hostages are killed, you want to bomb the village of the pirates into oblivion? You are not even high enough on the evolutionary scale to be called a moron. The United States has killed tens of thousands of innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan. Perhaps we should allow the home towns of our soldiers who did the killing to be bombed into oblivion? Oh, wait...that's just collateral damage. Doesn't count, right? What an asshole you are. For some people, guns and violence are always the answer. |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:12:08 -0500, Lil Abner wrote:
On 2/28/2011 11:02 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: And this boat has three children. It's time for this to stop. The Navy needs to storm this boat. If the innocents are killed they need to identify the pirates, which town they are from in Somali, and eliminate it. I guarantee you do this a couple of times, and the Somalis themselves will put a stop to it... Somehow it is more civilized to let the drama continue. That there is a Global government etc that should deal with piracy as a crime with due process and Pirates rights. We have the resources to locate these people on the oceans. Sink them without asking them, about their troubled childhoods, poor villages back home, and their hopes and aspirations. Somalia is a trouble region and really is no civilized government in control of anything their gnp is probably all from piracy. Let the military deal with them as they deem wise and necessary, on the spot and no recriminations from Washington etc. No trials. Once the victims are free, put the pirates back on the mother or pirate ship and sink it. Close their ports and destroy them. they might get upset...well the victims are upset and the rest of the world is tired of it. So, I guess you don't care about the vast majority of the people there who are just trying eke out an existence... |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:40:25 -0500, Harryk
wrote: On 2/28/11 1:37 PM, Califbill wrote: "Lil Abner" wrote in message ... On 2/28/2011 11:02 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: And this boat has three children. It's time for this to stop. The Navy needs to storm this boat. If the innocents are killed they need to identify the pirates, which town they are from in Somali, and eliminate it. I guarantee you do this a couple of times, and the Somalis themselves will put a stop to it... Somehow it is more civilized to let the drama continue. That there is a Global government etc that should deal with piracy as a crime with due process and Pirates rights. We have the resources to locate these people on the oceans. Sink them without asking them, about their troubled childhoods, poor villages back home, and their hopes and aspirations. Somalia is a trouble region and really is no civilized government in control of anything their gnp is probably all from piracy. Let the military deal with them as they deem wise and necessary, on the spot and no recriminations from Washington etc. No trials. Once the victims are free, put the pirates back on the mother or pirate ship and sink it. Close their ports and destroy them. they might get upset...well the victims are upset and the rest of the world is tired of it. Reply: Solution to the piracy. Limit the fishing to within 100 miles of the shore. If a Somali boat is outside the 100 miles, they sink and die. When the Somali's decide that piracy is not worth the problems, then they can fish further out. If the pirates capture a boat inside the 100 miles, is the boats problem. They kill hostages while in Somalia, then figure how who had gotten rich in the last 5 years and kill them. Under International Law, I doubt you can do that. How are you going to legally restrict access to the high seas? He's talking about a blockade I would guess. That's pretty difficult given the length of the coast line... very expensive to maintain. Of course, everyone seems to be forgetting our little adventure in 1993, wherein Clinton tried to do something and got blasted by the right-wing. Here's a bit of history for those too ignorant to look it up. http://novaonline.nvcc.edu/eli/evans...Somalia93.html "The U.N. asked its member nations for assistance. In December 1992, in one of his last acts as President, George Bush proposed to the U.N. that United States combat troops lead the intervention force. The U.N. accepted this offer and 25,000 U.S. troops were deployed to Somalia. President Bush stated that this would not be an “open-ended commitment.” The objective of Operation Restore Hope was to rapidly secure the trade routes in Somalia so that food could get to the people. President Bush stated that U.S. troops would be home in time for Bill Clinton’s inauguration in January. Once President Clinton was inaugurated he stated his desire to scale down the U.S. presence in Somalia, and to let the U.N. forces take over. In March 1993 the U.N. officially took over the operation, naming this mission UNOSOM – II. The objective of this mission was to promote “nation building” within Somalia. One main target was to disarm the Somali people. UNOSOM – II stressed restoring law and order, improving the infrastructure, and assisting the people with setting up a representative government. President Clinton supported the U.N. mandate and ordered the number of U.S. troops in Somalia reduced, to be replaced by U.N. troops. By June 1993, only 1200 U.S. troops remained in Somalia, but on June 5, 1993 24 Pakistani soldiers were ambushed and killed during the inspection of a Somali arms weapons storage site. The U.N. responded with an emergency resolution to apprehend those responsible. While it was not specifically stated, Aidid and his followers were believed to be responsible. On June 19, 1993 Admiral Howe ordered Aidid’s arrest and offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to this. He also requested a counterterrorist rescue force after the massacre of the Pakistani troops." |
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On Feb 28, 1:37*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"Lil Abner" *wrote in ... On 2/28/2011 11:02 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: And this boat has three children. It's time for this to stop. The Navy needs to storm this boat. If the innocents are killed they need to identify the pirates, which town they are from in Somali, and eliminate it. I guarantee you do this a couple of times, and the Somalis themselves will put a stop to it... Somehow it is more civilized to let the drama continue. That there is a Global government etc that should deal with piracy as a crime with due process and Pirates rights. We have the resources to locate these people on the oceans. Sink them without asking them, about their troubled childhoods, poor villages back home, and their hopes and aspirations. Somalia is a trouble region and really is no civilized government in control of anything their gnp is probably all from piracy. Let the military deal with them as they deem wise and necessary, on the spot and no recriminations from Washington etc. No trials. Once the victims are free, put the pirates back on the mother or pirate ship and sink it. Close their ports and destroy them. they might get upset...well the victims are upset and the rest of the world is tired of it. Reply: Solution to the piracy. *Limit the fishing to within 100 miles of the shore. If a Somali boat is outside the 100 miles, they sink and die. *When the Somali's decide that piracy is not worth the problems, then they can fish further out. *If the pirates capture a boat inside the 100 miles, is the boats problem. *They kill hostages while in Somalia, then figure how who had gotten rich in the last 5 years and kill them. 100 miles, that's a laugh. Make it TWENTY miles. |
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"Harryk" wrote in message
m... On 2/28/11 1:37 PM, Califbill wrote: "Lil Abner" wrote in message ... On 2/28/2011 11:02 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: And this boat has three children. It's time for this to stop. The Navy needs to storm this boat. If the innocents are killed they need to identify the pirates, which town they are from in Somali, and eliminate it. I guarantee you do this a couple of times, and the Somalis themselves will put a stop to it... Somehow it is more civilized to let the drama continue. That there is a Global government etc that should deal with piracy as a crime with due process and Pirates rights. We have the resources to locate these people on the oceans. Sink them without asking them, about their troubled childhoods, poor villages back home, and their hopes and aspirations. Somalia is a trouble region and really is no civilized government in control of anything their gnp is probably all from piracy. Let the military deal with them as they deem wise and necessary, on the spot and no recriminations from Washington etc. No trials. Once the victims are free, put the pirates back on the mother or pirate ship and sink it. Close their ports and destroy them. they might get upset...well the victims are upset and the rest of the world is tired of it. Reply: Solution to the piracy. Limit the fishing to within 100 miles of the shore. If a Somali boat is outside the 100 miles, they sink and die. When the Somali's decide that piracy is not worth the problems, then they can fish further out. If the pirates capture a boat inside the 100 miles, is the boats problem. They kill hostages while in Somalia, then figure how who had gotten rich in the last 5 years and kill them. Under International Law, I doubt you can do that. How are you going to legally restrict access to the high seas? Reply: Under the rule of the others got bigger guns and boats. |
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