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Winning elections is not good enough
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 02:28:35 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:01:00 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:10:29 -0500, wrote: What part of this is so hard to understand, your insurance is on the cops computer in his car in real time. It is not a "random stop". It is a flashing message on the laptop that tells the cop, not only that your insurance was canceled but who your agent/company is. You can't even get a tag without insurance and if it lapses for any reason you tag is flagged. So, how come all those illegals aren't getting stopped as soon as they get on the road?? They aren't. They run legal tags and they have insurance ? Huh? You believe that illegals have insurance on their to do list? No insurance is a tow in Florida and you ride to the station in cuffs. I doubt it. Most likely you're given a ticket unless there's some other reason to detain you. That is simply not true. They do tow cars stopped with no insurance. My wife has had it happen to employees. They have even waited at the gate for them to come out and bust them right there. Sounds like a police state to me. My neighbor got stopped for expired tags. He didn't even have his DL on him. They gave him a fix it ticket. I suppose you could run someone elses tag but that is fraught with it's own perils. I would certainly expect a "felony stop" if I was doing that. (dragged out of the car, knocked to the ground and a cops foot on your neck) The assumption is you are up to no good, car theft at the minimum and perhaps something a lot worse. That computer in the cop car has taken a lot of mystery out of who they are looking at and certainly which car that tag belongs to. Yet, there are lots and lots of people on the road without insurance... Not so much here, maybe you just need better enforcement there. Maryland was bad about that, mostly because DC did not require insurance. That may be better but they also do not talk to each other. They have 2 deputies here in each district who do nothing but insurance, out of state tags and radar. They drive around all day just running tags to see what pops. That was the allure of that camera system that did it automatically. They are checking every tag that comes in range. These guys also look for out of state tags in employee parking lots. That one is a ticket but it is a ticket with a warrant attached if you don't buy a Florida tag right away. The next time it is that tow and the ride downtown. They do all of this because we do have a lot of out of state people here who will blow off a wreck and leave the injured party trying to catch someone across a state line. Well, good for FL. However, there are 49 other states plus DC. |
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#3
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Winning elections is not good enough
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says... On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 02:28:35 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:01:00 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:10:29 -0500, wrote: What part of this is so hard to understand, your insurance is on the cops computer in his car in real time. It is not a "random stop". It is a flashing message on the laptop that tells the cop, not only that your insurance was canceled but who your agent/company is. You can't even get a tag without insurance and if it lapses for any reason you tag is flagged. So, how come all those illegals aren't getting stopped as soon as they get on the road?? They aren't. They run legal tags and they have insurance ? Huh? You believe that illegals have insurance on their to do list? No insurance is a tow in Florida and you ride to the station in cuffs. I doubt it. Most likely you're given a ticket unless there's some other reason to detain you. That is simply not true. They do tow cars stopped with no insurance. My wife has had it happen to employees. They have even waited at the gate for them to come out and bust them right there. Sounds like a police state to me. My neighbor got stopped for expired tags. He didn't even have his DL on him. They gave him a fix it ticket. Doesn't matter unless you are trying to deflect the conversation away from insurance, to DL, or even further into a political thing.. .oh wait...  I suppose you could run someone elses tag but that is fraught with it's own perils. I would certainly expect a "felony stop" if I was doing that. (dragged out of the car, knocked to the ground and a cops foot on your neck) The assumption is you are up to no good, car theft at the minimum and perhaps something a lot worse. That computer in the cop car has taken a lot of mystery out of who they are looking at and certainly which car that tag belongs to. Yet, there are lots and lots of people on the road without insurance... Not so much here, maybe you just need better enforcement there. Maryland was bad about that, mostly because DC did not require insurance. That may be better but they also do not talk to each other. They have 2 deputies here in each district who do nothing but insurance, out of state tags and radar. They drive around all day just running tags to see what pops. That was the allure of that camera system that did it automatically. They are checking every tag that comes in range. These guys also look for out of state tags in employee parking lots. That one is a ticket but it is a ticket with a warrant attached if you don't buy a Florida tag right away. The next time it is that tow and the ride downtown. They do all of this because we do have a lot of out of state people here who will blow off a wreck and leave the injured party trying to catch someone across a state line. Well, good for FL. However, there are 49 other states plus DC. non |
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#4
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Winning elections is not good enough
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:49:39 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:28:07 -0800, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 02:28:35 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:01:00 -0800, wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:10:29 -0500, wrote: What part of this is so hard to understand, your insurance is on the cops computer in his car in real time. It is not a "random stop". It is a flashing message on the laptop that tells the cop, not only that your insurance was canceled but who your agent/company is. You can't even get a tag without insurance and if it lapses for any reason you tag is flagged. So, how come all those illegals aren't getting stopped as soon as they get on the road?? They aren't. They run legal tags and they have insurance ? Huh? You believe that illegals have insurance on their to do list? They do if getting deported is not on their to do list. We don't have the Arizona problem. They will check immigration status on an arrest and no insurance is an arrest.. Oh give me a break. I'm sure all the illegal Cubans rush to get their car insurance all paid up. No insurance is a tow in Florida and you ride to the station in cuffs. I doubt it. Most likely you're given a ticket unless there's some other reason to detain you. That is simply not true. They do tow cars stopped with no insurance. My wife has had it happen to employees. They have even waited at the gate for them to come out and bust them right there. Sounds like a police state to me. My neighbor got stopped for expired tags. He didn't even have his DL on him. They gave him a fix it ticket. There is a huge difference between an expired tag and no insurance. The cop simply tells you, he can't let you on the street with no insurance and your car gets towed. Here's a link... http://www.insuranceusa.com/Californ...-Insurance.php Here's another... scroll down. http://www.ehow.com/list_6772564_sta...tion-laws.html I don't see anything about getting your car towed... "Auto insurance is mandatory and driving without the proper documentation can lead to significant fines or even suspension of your license." I suppose you could run someone elses tag but that is fraught with it's own perils. I would certainly expect a "felony stop" if I was doing that. (dragged out of the car, knocked to the ground and a cops foot on your neck) The assumption is you are up to no good, car theft at the minimum and perhaps something a lot worse. That computer in the cop car has taken a lot of mystery out of who they are looking at and certainly which car that tag belongs to. Yet, there are lots and lots of people on the road without insurance... Not so much here, maybe you just need better enforcement there. Maryland was bad about that, mostly because DC did not require insurance. That may be better but they also do not talk to each other. They have 2 deputies here in each district who do nothing but insurance, out of state tags and radar. They drive around all day just running tags to see what pops. That was the allure of that camera system that did it automatically. They are checking every tag that comes in range. These guys also look for out of state tags in employee parking lots. That one is a ticket but it is a ticket with a warrant attached if you don't buy a Florida tag right away. The next time it is that tow and the ride downtown. They do all of this because we do have a lot of out of state people here who will blow off a wreck and leave the injured party trying to catch someone across a state line. Well, good for FL. However, there are 49 other states plus DC. Maryland is pretty nasty about insurance too and I bet the same is true about California. They do have instant check in the cop car, in real time there too. |
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#5
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Winning elections is not good enough
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:17:15 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:33:53 -0800, wrote: "Auto insurance is mandatory and driving without the proper documentation can lead to significant fines or even suspension of your license." Since we talked last, my wife had another incident at work (a server's car is stranded in the community until he gets insurance) and she asked her deputy. He says the policy is based on the idea that driving without insurance is illegal and letting a person driving away from you when you know they are uninsured could make the county liable if there was an accident, in addition to ignoring an ongoing illegal activity. Stranded? How's that? What if the payment was sent, but there's a screw up with the insurance company (that never happens, right?). You really believe the car is going to get towed? Doesn't sound like her worker's car got towed either. |
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#6
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Winning elections is not good enough
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:52:41 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:41:54 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:17:15 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:33:53 -0800, wrote: "Auto insurance is mandatory and driving without the proper documentation can lead to significant fines or even suspension of your license." Since we talked last, my wife had another incident at work (a server's car is stranded in the community until he gets insurance) and she asked her deputy. He says the policy is based on the idea that driving without insurance is illegal and letting a person driving away from you when you know they are uninsured could make the county liable if there was an accident, in addition to ignoring an ongoing illegal activity. Stranded? How's that? What if the payment was sent, but there's a screw up with the insurance company (that never happens, right?). You really believe the car is going to get towed? Doesn't sound like her worker's car got towed either. Stranded in the sense that the cop says he will tow the car when the guy drives it out of the gate.. Sure. I'm positive he's sitting there day and night waiting for that to happen. A bunch of nonsense. If the insurance company screwed up, you fix it with the insurance company. The cop does not care. It would be the same thing if you said you paid all of those parking tickets, they still tow your car once the warrant is issued and you stay on the "tow" list until the computer says you are cleared. Certainly mistakes are made and people get arrested all the time over mistakes but they still stay arrested until it gets straightened out. You have really lived a sheltered life. You certainly do not seem to know much about how cops operate. They're not going to tow your car unless you've done something else. That's just paranoia. You definitely don't know how cops operate. They're mostly decent people who give people a break when they can. |
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Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:01:56 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:31:37 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:52:41 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:41:54 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:17:15 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:33:53 -0800, wrote: "Auto insurance is mandatory and driving without the proper documentation can lead to significant fines or even suspension of your license." Since we talked last, my wife had another incident at work (a server's car is stranded in the community until he gets insurance) and she asked her deputy. He says the policy is based on the idea that driving without insurance is illegal and letting a person driving away from you when you know they are uninsured could make the county liable if there was an accident, in addition to ignoring an ongoing illegal activity. Stranded? How's that? What if the payment was sent, but there's a screw up with the insurance company (that never happens, right?). You really believe the car is going to get towed? Doesn't sound like her worker's car got towed either. Stranded in the sense that the cop says he will tow the car when the guy drives it out of the gate.. Sure. I'm positive he's sitting there day and night waiting for that to happen. A bunch of nonsense. He doesn't have to sit there all day, he also knows where you live and probably has a pretty good idea when you get off of work. Huh? This is his highest priority... he's going to sit there and worry about your lack of insurance. Good grief! If the insurance company screwed up, you fix it with the insurance company. The cop does not care. It would be the same thing if you said you paid all of those parking tickets, they still tow your car once the warrant is issued and you stay on the "tow" list until the computer says you are cleared. Certainly mistakes are made and people get arrested all the time over mistakes but they still stay arrested until it gets straightened out. You have really lived a sheltered life. You certainly do not seem to know much about how cops operate. They're not going to tow your car unless you've done something else. That's just paranoia. You would have to tell that to the employee who had their car towed. Which employee is that? You never said anyone had their car towed. New information or you're just making thing up to suit you? You definitely don't know how cops operate. They're mostly decent people who give people a break when they can. Yeah right. They do what they are told by their boss. Some cops give some people a break sometime but don't count on it. You seem to have a very low opinion of cops. They are still left with the reality that if they knowingly let a person drive without insurance, the department could be liable for a wreck. Even if the suit was tossed, no Sheriff wants that showing up in a campaign. This is a community of seniors, mostly republicans, who think having insurance is a big deal. They have little patience with deadbeats. Sounds paranoid to me... |
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#8
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Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:33:25 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:19:30 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:01:56 -0500, wrote: Stranded in the sense that the cop says he will tow the car when the guy drives it out of the gate.. Sure. I'm positive he's sitting there day and night waiting for that to happen. A bunch of nonsense. He doesn't have to sit there all day, he also knows where you live and probably has a pretty good idea when you get off of work. Huh? This is his highest priority... he's going to sit there and worry about your lack of insurance. Good grief! He is a cop working traffic. What do you think his highest priority is? He's going to stop people for running lights, tail lights out, an expired sticker, failing to yield, etc., not for "lack of insurance." If the insurance company screwed up, you fix it with the insurance company. The cop does not care. It would be the same thing if you said you paid all of those parking tickets, they still tow your car once the warrant is issued and you stay on the "tow" list until the computer says you are cleared. Certainly mistakes are made and people get arrested all the time over mistakes but they still stay arrested until it gets straightened out. You have really lived a sheltered life. You certainly do not seem to know much about how cops operate. They're not going to tow your car unless you've done something else. That's just paranoia. You would have to tell that to the employee who had their car towed. Which employee is that? You never said anyone had their car towed. New information or you're just making thing up to suit you? Yes I did. I told you one of Judy's people did get stopped and had their car towed. Try to keep up. Did get stopped... FOR WHAT? Lack of insurance or something else and then they discovered the "lack of insurance." You definitely don't know how cops operate. They're mostly decent people who give people a break when they can. Yeah right. They do what they are told by their boss. Some cops give some people a break sometime but don't count on it. You seem to have a very low opinion of cops. I understand what they do for a living and evidently you don't. Have you actually spent any time with cops? (on duty or off) This is not TV. I've probably spent more than a few weeks with them during my internships. Most of their day is spent on very mundane tasks and if they "gave everyone a break" their productivity numbers would not be up to par. It is not really a "quota" but it is an expectation and there is some degree of competition. Low producers do not get promoted When the shift sargent says "we gave you a list of insurance expirations, did you find any of them" he is not going to take "yeah I found a couple but I let them go". Which has nothing to do with the "insurance" claims you're making. They are still left with the reality that if they knowingly let a person drive without insurance, the department could be liable for a wreck. Even if the suit was tossed, no Sheriff wants that showing up in a campaign. This is a community of seniors, mostly republicans, who think having insurance is a big deal. They have little patience with deadbeats. Sounds paranoid to me... Welcome to the world lawyers have given us. I am done with this. Mostly seniors, mostly republicans, who are overly paranoid. Yes, I don't doubt you're done with this. |
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#9
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Winning elections is not good enough
I am done with this. Yea! |
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#10
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Winning elections is not good enough
Stranded? How's that? What if the payment was sent, but there's a screw up with the insurance company (that never happens, right?). You really believe the car is going to get towed? Doesn't sound like her worker's car got towed either. Stranded in the sense that the cop says he will tow the car when the guy drives it out of the gate.. If the insurance company screwed up, you fix it with the insurance company. The cop does not care. It would be the same thing if you said you paid all of those parking tickets, they still tow your car once the warrant is issued and you stay on the "tow" list until the computer says you are cleared. Certainly mistakes are made and people get arrested all the time over mistakes but they still stay arrested until it gets straightened out. You have really lived a sheltered life. You certainly do not seem to know much about how cops operate. She lives in a land of milk and honey. She cant see or won't acknowledge there is a fly swimming around in it. Poor baby. |
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