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Winning elections is not good enough
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:58:05 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:16:17 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:09:28 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:26:36 -0800, wrote: Yes, there's a limit. There's no indication that those who buy it are going to stop any time soon. So you think we should wait until they do stop buying our debt before we act? That is a hell of a game of chicken you want to play with the full faith and credit of the US. Never said that, as you know. You just did. You are not going to believe there is a problem until you see it happening. By then it will be too late. Please show me where I said the long term problem doesn't exist and/or doesn't need to be addressed. You just think everything is "long term" AKA someone elses problem. It is here right now. Everything? Really? Typically, when someone says everything, always, and similar, that's a clue that the argument is full of holes. The time to fix this was 30 years ago. We may already be past the tipping point. Fear-based nonsense. The real problem is the entitlements and we will never go after people who are retired or within 10-15 years of retirement. That means most of the boomer problem is still coming and there is nothing we can do about it., Maybe the Republicans should reinvent death panels ala Arizona style. |
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Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:17:01 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:11:34 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:58:05 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:16:17 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:09:28 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:26:36 -0800, wrote: Yes, there's a limit. There's no indication that those who buy it are going to stop any time soon. So you think we should wait until they do stop buying our debt before we act? That is a hell of a game of chicken you want to play with the full faith and credit of the US. Never said that, as you know. You just did. You are not going to believe there is a problem until you see it happening. By then it will be too late. Please show me where I said the long term problem doesn't exist and/or doesn't need to be addressed. You just think everything is "long term" AKA someone elses problem. It is here right now. Everything? Really? Typically, when someone says everything, always, and similar, that's a clue that the argument is full of holes. It has ben your answer to everything in this thread. That's not accurate either. The time to fix this was 30 years ago. We may already be past the tipping point. Fear-based nonsense. Keep telling yourself that if it gets you through the night. Umm... fear-based action is what "gets" you though the night. Rational people are not quaking under the blanket. The real problem is the entitlements and we will never go after people who are retired or within 10-15 years of retirement. That means most of the boomer problem is still coming and there is nothing we can do about it., Maybe the Republicans should reinvent death panels ala Arizona style. Don't be shocked when that happens. It will come in the guise of the Canadian waiting list. Medicare does spend most of it's money on people in their last 6 months of life and the estimate is it really only buys a month or so. Well, perhaps if the Republicans stopped their nonsense about the false death panels, people would have a greater ability to consult with their doctor and thus prevent some of the unnecessary care, but when you have politicians playing on fear, e.g., pull the plug on grandma, then you certainly are not helping the situation. |
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#4
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Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:09:09 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:02:05 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:17:01 -0500, wrote: Everything? Really? Typically, when someone says everything, always, and similar, that's a clue that the argument is full of holes. It has ben your answer to everything in this thread. That's not accurate either. What have you admitted was a problem? ?? Not sure what you're asking? Do we have a long-term financial problem? Sure. Are there some things we can do in the short-term that will help? Sure. Is the sky falling? Nope. Don't be shocked when that happens. It will come in the guise of the Canadian waiting list. Medicare does spend most of it's money on people in their last 6 months of life and the estimate is it really only buys a month or so. Well, perhaps if the Republicans stopped their nonsense about the false death panels, people would have a greater ability to consult with their doctor and thus prevent some of the unnecessary care, but when you have politicians playing on fear, e.g., pull the plug on grandma, then you certainly are not helping the situation. There is a lot of money in keeping corpses alive with a very low risk. So, you're saying the doctors were lobbying for removing their ability to be paid to consult with people about their end care? If you lose one due to a doctor screw up, the chances of getting caught are pretty slim. Most people who die in a nursing home do not even have an autopsy. They simply accept the attending physicians cause of death A popular one is COPD which means "Cant Offer a Precise Diagnosis". No idea what this has to do with the false notion put forth by Palin and others. |
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#5
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Winning elections is not good enough
On 2/24/2011 2:46 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:09:09 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:02:05 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:17:01 -0500, wrote: Everything? Really? Typically, when someone says everything, always, and similar, that's a clue that the argument is full of holes. It has ben your answer to everything in this thread. That's not accurate either. What have you admitted was a problem? ?? Not sure what you're asking? Do we have a long-term financial problem? Sure. Are there some things we can do in the short-term that will help? Sure. Is the sky falling? Nope. Don't be shocked when that happens. It will come in the guise of the Canadian waiting list. Medicare does spend most of it's money on people in their last 6 months of life and the estimate is it really only buys a month or so. Well, perhaps if the Republicans stopped their nonsense about the false death panels, people would have a greater ability to consult with their doctor and thus prevent some of the unnecessary care, but when you have politicians playing on fear, e.g., pull the plug on grandma, then you certainly are not helping the situation. There is a lot of money in keeping corpses alive with a very low risk. So, you're saying the doctors were lobbying for removing their ability to be paid to consult with people about their end care? If you lose one due to a doctor screw up, the chances of getting caught are pretty slim. Most people who die in a nursing home do not even have an autopsy. They simply accept the attending physicians cause of death A popular one is COPD which means "Cant Offer a Precise Diagnosis". No idea what this has to do with the false notion put forth by Palin and others. Gas is $3.299 today. Up 15c from yesterday. What are the rest of you folks paying? |
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