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Winning elections is not good enough
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:34:21 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:39:08 -0800, wrote: BTW this is why I have been saying for years, insurance companies should be titling cars and issuing tags. They are the ones with the skin in the game and the databases the cops use anyway. The whole thing could be rolled up into one national database and eliminate 51 state (remember DC) operations that are not that good about talking to each other National db? Perhaps administered by insurance companies? Or, by the gov't??? Sounds like a police state to me... Insurance companies already maintain a national database. That was my point. The insurance company database is a whole lot more accurate than the police database unless the police link to the insurance companies, which they do in Florida. Why do we need the police anyway? Why not just hire the insurance companies to do it all? Sheesh.. We still need the cops to enforce the law. I am talking about the insurance companies doing the bookkeeping since they already do most of it anyway. Why? A better job for less money. Keeping 51 separate databases that do not talk to each other is just stupid. No... my question was why do we need the cops? Why not just let the for-profit companies do it, since they're so much better than public employees? |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:52:41 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:41:54 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:17:15 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:33:53 -0800, wrote: "Auto insurance is mandatory and driving without the proper documentation can lead to significant fines or even suspension of your license." Since we talked last, my wife had another incident at work (a server's car is stranded in the community until he gets insurance) and she asked her deputy. He says the policy is based on the idea that driving without insurance is illegal and letting a person driving away from you when you know they are uninsured could make the county liable if there was an accident, in addition to ignoring an ongoing illegal activity. Stranded? How's that? What if the payment was sent, but there's a screw up with the insurance company (that never happens, right?). You really believe the car is going to get towed? Doesn't sound like her worker's car got towed either. Stranded in the sense that the cop says he will tow the car when the guy drives it out of the gate.. Sure. I'm positive he's sitting there day and night waiting for that to happen. A bunch of nonsense. If the insurance company screwed up, you fix it with the insurance company. The cop does not care. It would be the same thing if you said you paid all of those parking tickets, they still tow your car once the warrant is issued and you stay on the "tow" list until the computer says you are cleared. Certainly mistakes are made and people get arrested all the time over mistakes but they still stay arrested until it gets straightened out. You have really lived a sheltered life. You certainly do not seem to know much about how cops operate. They're not going to tow your car unless you've done something else. That's just paranoia. You definitely don't know how cops operate. They're mostly decent people who give people a break when they can. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:03:02 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:42:16 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:29:12 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:34:45 -0800, wrote: They are testing the camera in the cop car that scans tag here as we speak. It uses OCR to read the tag, the on board computer runs it and a few seconds later the cop has a message flashing on the screen telling him everything there is to know about the car and the owner.. This is not just for insurance, it is also Amber alerts, stolen cars, wants, warrants or whatever else you can glean from a tag or the owner of that tag. This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ... as soon as they justify the cost. Sure... ok, we'll just hang around until they get that working... The camera system works great, they are just testing the public perception. It will probably come down to cost. On the plus side, the majority of felony arrests come from traffic stops in one way or another. The cop has a huge advantage as soon as you get in your car particularly if they can find an excuse to tow the car. Driving is not a right it is a privilege (or so they say) and you sign away most of your rights as soon as you get in a car. (certainly amendment 4, 5, 6 &7) Not for checking insurance it doesn't. They may stop you for "insurance" but while they have you they can; Make everyone get out and show ID Search everyone in the car, ostensibly for weapons search the passenger compartment of the car, ostensibly for weapons call in a drug dog for a sniff ask you all sorts of questions about anything they think is "suspicious" ... and here they will check your immigration status but it is really on your DL. Of course if anyone in the car "pops" on the computer they are going for a ride and that is where most of the felony arrests come from. That is why they think it is worth the cop's time. They would have to have some excuse. Sure, if you're sticking a gun out the window, they're going to crawl all over you. You're backpeddling, as no cop is going to bother running plates on every car he sees, so that he can find one that doesn't have insurance. If they do have cause to impound the car it has to be "inventoried" so even if you did manage not to give permission for a full search (a lot harder to do than you learned in law school), it just happened. Again, all a bunch of a nonsense scenario that would never happen. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:04:30 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:42:54 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:00:01 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:33:01 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ... as soon as they justify the cost. I noticed what appeared to be a radar gun mounted on the left rear bumper of a Fairfax County Police car the other day. I wonder if that was the camera to which you're referring. Well...now I know. Glad you mentioned it. http://www.elsag.com/detail.asp?i=195 Nincdepoop should get a charge out of that privacy invasion! I love the way they keep harping on it's ability to find stolen cars. BFD, and bull****.. This is going to quickly morph into finding parking ticked violators, tax evaders, and any other violation involving not giving money to the state or town. They already use these in big cities in conjunction with tow services and just drive around looking for folks who owe parking tickets and such. To make Plume happy I am sure they will also use it to catch child support deadbeats. If you pop on that in a traffic stop you are going away too in Florida. (for the legal eagles, it is an open contempt of court warrant) Which has nothing to do with being stopped BECAUSE your insurance may or may not be out of date. That is just another thing that gets you stopped. No it isn't. No cop is going to stop you because you lack insurance. It might be a consequence of some other problem, but not due solely to lack of insurance. It's complete nonsense. |
Winning elections is not good enough
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says... On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:04:30 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:42:54 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:00:01 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:33:01 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ... as soon as they justify the cost. I noticed what appeared to be a radar gun mounted on the left rear bumper of a Fairfax County Police car the other day. I wonder if that was the camera to which you're referring. Well...now I know. Glad you mentioned it. http://www.elsag.com/detail.asp?i=195 Nincdepoop should get a charge out of that privacy invasion! I love the way they keep harping on it's ability to find stolen cars. BFD, and bull****.. This is going to quickly morph into finding parking ticked violators, tax evaders, and any other violation involving not giving money to the state or town. They already use these in big cities in conjunction with tow services and just drive around looking for folks who owe parking tickets and such. To make Plume happy I am sure they will also use it to catch child support deadbeats. If you pop on that in a traffic stop you are going away too in Florida. (for the legal eagles, it is an open contempt of court warrant) Which has nothing to do with being stopped BECAUSE your insurance may or may not be out of date. That is just another thing that gets you stopped. No it isn't. No cop is going to stop you because you lack insurance. It might be a consequence of some other problem, but not due solely to lack of insurance. It's complete nonsense. Don't you ****ing get it you thick headed moron? They are not going to take on the liability of letting you drive without insurance, period!!! Just like they are not going to let you go just because you are a "little drunk"... Moron... |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:38:15 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:28:27 -0500, John H wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:56:06 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:24:15 -0500, John H wrote: I've been pushing to have chips implanted in the necks of babies as they're born, similar to those implanted in dogs and cats. Then we wouldn't need all these damn cameras. Chips are cheap. They could even be programmed so that medical procedures could be tracked. Once a set amount is spent on healthcare, they explode. Wouldn't need Obama's death panels then either. :) I am ready for my chip. If I could get on a plane faster or get through the checkout line faster, it would be worth it. I want it in the second finger of my left hand. Then when someone wanted to see my ID I would just hold it up and show it to them. And it would be easily removable if your hand ever got caught between a rock and a hard place. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On 3/2/11 7:11 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:04:30 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:42:54 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:00:01 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:33:01 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ... as soon as they justify the cost. I noticed what appeared to be a radar gun mounted on the left rear bumper of a Fairfax County Police car the other day. I wonder if that was the camera to which you're referring. Well...now I know. Glad you mentioned it. http://www.elsag.com/detail.asp?i=195 Nincdepoop should get a charge out of that privacy invasion! I love the way they keep harping on it's ability to find stolen cars. BFD, and bull****.. This is going to quickly morph into finding parking ticked violators, tax evaders, and any other violation involving not giving money to the state or town. They already use these in big cities in conjunction with tow services and just drive around looking for folks who owe parking tickets and such. To make Plume happy I am sure they will also use it to catch child support deadbeats. If you pop on that in a traffic stop you are going away too in Florida. (for the legal eagles, it is an open contempt of court warrant) Which has nothing to do with being stopped BECAUSE your insurance may or may not be out of date. That is just another thing that gets you stopped. No it isn't. No cop is going to stop you because you lack insurance. It might be a consequence of some other problem, but not due solely to lack of insurance. It's complete nonsense. Don't you ****ing get it you thick headed moron? They are not going to take on the liability of letting you drive without insurance, period!!! Just like they are not going to let you go just because you are a "little drunk"... Moron... It's always mildly humorous when the dumbest poster in rec.boats, scott ingerfool, refers to others as morons. |
Winning elections is not good enough
Stranded? How's that? What if the payment was sent, but there's a screw up with the insurance company (that never happens, right?). You really believe the car is going to get towed? Doesn't sound like her worker's car got towed either. Stranded in the sense that the cop says he will tow the car when the guy drives it out of the gate.. If the insurance company screwed up, you fix it with the insurance company. The cop does not care. It would be the same thing if you said you paid all of those parking tickets, they still tow your car once the warrant is issued and you stay on the "tow" list until the computer says you are cleared. Certainly mistakes are made and people get arrested all the time over mistakes but they still stay arrested until it gets straightened out. You have really lived a sheltered life. You certainly do not seem to know much about how cops operate. She lives in a land of milk and honey. She cant see or won't acknowledge there is a fly swimming around in it. Poor baby. |
Winning elections is not good enough
That is just another thing that gets you stopped. No it isn't. No cop is going to stop you because you lack insurance. It might be a consequence of some other problem, but not due solely to lack of insurance. It's complete nonsense. Don't you ****ing get it you thick headed moron? They are not going to take on the liability of letting you drive without insurance, period!!! Just like they are not going to let you go just because you are a "little drunk"... Moron... It's always mildly humorous when the dumbest poster in rec.boats, scott ingerfool, refers to others as morons. Call him a moron if you want but he's absolutely correct. Even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day. |
Winning elections is not good enough
The blogger is quoting Gen Maples. When the blogger is Arianna Huffington everything you post is gospel. Please show me the evidence that supports this statement. Evidence of what? Maples' Testimony? I imagine I can page through the congressional record and find his testimony but you would just change the subject if I did. And that's what keeps her in the game. |
Winning elections is not good enough
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Winning elections is not good enough
On 3/2/11 10:28 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... That is just another thing that gets you stopped. No it isn't. No cop is going to stop you because you lack insurance. It might be a consequence of some other problem, but not due solely to lack of insurance. It's complete nonsense. Don't you ****ing get it you thick headed moron? They are not going to take on the liability of letting you drive without insurance, period!!! Just like they are not going to let you go just because you are a "little drunk"... Moron... It's always mildly humorous when the dumbest poster in rec.boats, scott ingerfool, refers to others as morons. Call him a moron if you want but he's absolutely correct. Even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day. I always laugh when the retard of rec.boats calls someone dumb. I mean, the guy is a hs dropout for ****s sakes... *You* are the "retard" of rec.boats, Snotty. You and your equally dumb Loogy clone buddy. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:01:56 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:31:37 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:52:41 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:41:54 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:17:15 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:33:53 -0800, wrote: "Auto insurance is mandatory and driving without the proper documentation can lead to significant fines or even suspension of your license." Since we talked last, my wife had another incident at work (a server's car is stranded in the community until he gets insurance) and she asked her deputy. He says the policy is based on the idea that driving without insurance is illegal and letting a person driving away from you when you know they are uninsured could make the county liable if there was an accident, in addition to ignoring an ongoing illegal activity. Stranded? How's that? What if the payment was sent, but there's a screw up with the insurance company (that never happens, right?). You really believe the car is going to get towed? Doesn't sound like her worker's car got towed either. Stranded in the sense that the cop says he will tow the car when the guy drives it out of the gate.. Sure. I'm positive he's sitting there day and night waiting for that to happen. A bunch of nonsense. He doesn't have to sit there all day, he also knows where you live and probably has a pretty good idea when you get off of work. Huh? This is his highest priority... he's going to sit there and worry about your lack of insurance. Good grief! If the insurance company screwed up, you fix it with the insurance company. The cop does not care. It would be the same thing if you said you paid all of those parking tickets, they still tow your car once the warrant is issued and you stay on the "tow" list until the computer says you are cleared. Certainly mistakes are made and people get arrested all the time over mistakes but they still stay arrested until it gets straightened out. You have really lived a sheltered life. You certainly do not seem to know much about how cops operate. They're not going to tow your car unless you've done something else. That's just paranoia. You would have to tell that to the employee who had their car towed. Which employee is that? You never said anyone had their car towed. New information or you're just making thing up to suit you? You definitely don't know how cops operate. They're mostly decent people who give people a break when they can. Yeah right. They do what they are told by their boss. Some cops give some people a break sometime but don't count on it. You seem to have a very low opinion of cops. They are still left with the reality that if they knowingly let a person drive without insurance, the department could be liable for a wreck. Even if the suit was tossed, no Sheriff wants that showing up in a campaign. This is a community of seniors, mostly republicans, who think having insurance is a big deal. They have little patience with deadbeats. Sounds paranoid to me... |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:38:01 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:33:47 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:03:02 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:42:16 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:29:12 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:34:45 -0800, wrote: They are testing the camera in the cop car that scans tag here as we speak. It uses OCR to read the tag, the on board computer runs it and a few seconds later the cop has a message flashing on the screen telling him everything there is to know about the car and the owner.. This is not just for insurance, it is also Amber alerts, stolen cars, wants, warrants or whatever else you can glean from a tag or the owner of that tag. This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ... as soon as they justify the cost. Sure... ok, we'll just hang around until they get that working... The camera system works great, they are just testing the public perception. It will probably come down to cost. On the plus side, the majority of felony arrests come from traffic stops in one way or another. The cop has a huge advantage as soon as you get in your car particularly if they can find an excuse to tow the car. Driving is not a right it is a privilege (or so they say) and you sign away most of your rights as soon as you get in a car. (certainly amendment 4, 5, 6 &7) Not for checking insurance it doesn't. They may stop you for "insurance" but while they have you they can; Make everyone get out and show ID Search everyone in the car, ostensibly for weapons search the passenger compartment of the car, ostensibly for weapons call in a drug dog for a sniff ask you all sorts of questions about anything they think is "suspicious" ... and here they will check your immigration status but it is really on your DL. Of course if anyone in the car "pops" on the computer they are going for a ride and that is where most of the felony arrests come from. That is why they think it is worth the cop's time. They would have to have some excuse. Sure, if you're sticking a gun out the window, they're going to crawl all over you. This is what they CAN do. (refering to the rights you give up in the car) The "excuse" is you look suspicious. That can be almost anything. I was shaken several times in DC, mostly because I was out late at night working. No real good reason to stop me but they did. I usually made it go pretty fast because I had a good reason to be there and I gave them permission to shake my car. After a while I got to know all the cops and I didn't have any more problems. You should have said no. I've said no. They don't like it, but they've either got to arrest or move on. Feel free to give up your civil rights. I won't. You're backpeddling, as no cop is going to bother running plates on every car he sees, so that he can find one that doesn't have insurance. This works the other way. They get the list of the canceled policies in their district and they go hunting. Sure... right. ... but cops do run plates for the reason I said before. It is the biggest source of felony arrests. By far the largest number of drug busts start with a traffic stop. They used "gardening supplies" as PC for a search of a house and turned up a grow operation here about 3 weeks ago. Personally I bet it was an illegal wire tap or something that got them looking in the first place but that is how it was supposed to have happened. While they are fishing, if they do turn up "no insurance" they will bust you, if for no other reason, they get a free search of your car when they inventory it. That is fishing with dynamite. BS. Total. If they do have cause to impound the car it has to be "inventoried" so even if you did manage not to give permission for a full search (a lot harder to do than you learned in law school), it just happened. Again, all a bunch of a nonsense scenario that would never happen. Which part? The inventory? That is simply a fact. If for no other reason it is so you can't say they took the diamond ring you had in the console. If they do turn up a roach in your ashtray here, that is another charge and they probably search your house. This ain't California and pot is really illegal here. They are serious about it. An ounce in your night stand makes you a trafficker (20 grams) Sounds like the police are corrupt. Maybe we should replace them with cops for hire. BTW why didn't you google this? http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_police...re gistration If it's parked on public property, or you're caught operating that vehicle, yes I thought you don't like wiki? http://car-insurance.onlineautoinsur...-legal-limits/ If a resident of Florida is caught owning or driving a vehicle without a policy in force which meets the state’s requirements, the resident may be ticketed. Such violations could result in hundreds of dollars in citation fines or worse, the state of FL may impound vehicles in violation. Impound fees are charged daily and towing fees could add up quickly. Keep in mind that when a vehicle is impounded, the owner is responsible for the impound fees and towing fees that may result in hundreds of dollars additional to citation fines. Which is what I posted. Key word... may. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:38:54 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:34:45 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:04:30 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:42:54 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:00:01 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:33:01 -0500, I_am_Tosk wrote: This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ... as soon as they justify the cost. I noticed what appeared to be a radar gun mounted on the left rear bumper of a Fairfax County Police car the other day. I wonder if that was the camera to which you're referring. Well...now I know. Glad you mentioned it. http://www.elsag.com/detail.asp?i=195 Nincdepoop should get a charge out of that privacy invasion! I love the way they keep harping on it's ability to find stolen cars. BFD, and bull****.. This is going to quickly morph into finding parking ticked violators, tax evaders, and any other violation involving not giving money to the state or town. They already use these in big cities in conjunction with tow services and just drive around looking for folks who owe parking tickets and such. To make Plume happy I am sure they will also use it to catch child support deadbeats. If you pop on that in a traffic stop you are going away too in Florida. (for the legal eagles, it is an open contempt of court warrant) Which has nothing to do with being stopped BECAUSE your insurance may or may not be out of date. That is just another thing that gets you stopped. No it isn't. No cop is going to stop you because you lack insurance. It might be a consequence of some other problem, but not due solely to lack of insurance. It's complete nonsense. That is simply not true. It simply is true. No cop is going to be running plates on every car that goes by in the hope of finding someone who lack insurance. It's just nonsense. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:21:35 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:44:13 -0800, wrote: They search the database and respond to any hit. That was a puff piece, trying to minimize everything that this system will do. Look... cops are not driving around aiming cameras at cars to figure out if the owners have insurance. That's just nonsense. It might come up during a stop, probably would, but that's a long way from what you're proposing. Read my top quote If you pop on the computer for anything, you get stopped. Insurance is one of those things. It is clear the cops here go looking for cars with no insurance or they would not have found the server yesterday. I don't know what the chances are that you get caught on any given day but it is enough to scare people into getting insurance. This is four for her place that she knows about and one of them took the chance, it didn't work out so well. The damned tow is about $300 and $50-$100 a day (depending on who gets the tow) until you can get your tag straightened out. I hope you don't have a roach in the ash tray. One of the reasons they use the traffic (radar) guys for this is they may be able to write a few speeding tickets while they are waiting for the insurance guy to drive onto a public street. They are not checking unless they have a reason to. Not sure how to make this more understandable. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:23:13 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:45:16 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:56:06 -0500, wrote: I really believe tags will go away soon and you will just have an RFID tag in your car that links to all of the databases I'm betting that most righties would be fine with it until they figure out it applies to them, as well as Hispanics. I'm sure most of them have a toll transponder if they live near a toll road/bridge anyway. Same thing. It is just who wants to read it. P A R A N O I D |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:25:19 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:47:35 -0800, wrote: Call the cops, tell them your insurance expired and you still have to drive to work a few days until you can get it reinstated. Use your cutest girl voice. Tell us what they say. I bet the words "arrest" and "Impound your car" come up. That's just dumb. Come on. Don't answer until you make the call. Do it from a pay phone. Don't worry. This has nothing at all to do with them towing a car for no other reason that a possible lapse in insurance. Until someone in California asks a cop if they tow cars with no insurance, you are just talking out of your ass. I know they do here. Never said they don't. What I said was they don't look for cars driving by that don't have insurance. They look for other things, and the lack of insurance is secondary to the stop. Keep at it. Eventually, you'll figure it out. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:28:19 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:48:38 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:34:21 -0500, wrote: We still need the cops to enforce the law. I am talking about the insurance companies doing the bookkeeping since they already do most of it anyway. Why? A better job for less money. Keeping 51 separate databases that do not talk to each other is just stupid. No... my question was why do we need the cops? Why not just let the for-profit companies do it, since they're so much better than public employees? Cops are the ones with the guns and the red/blue lights on the roof. Data processing geeks are the guys back at the county administration building with tape on their glasses. Big difference False equivalency again? The cops are corrupt. Replace them! |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:45:56 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:26:47 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:28:19 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:48:38 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:34:21 -0500, wrote: We still need the cops to enforce the law. I am talking about the insurance companies doing the bookkeeping since they already do most of it anyway. Why? A better job for less money. Keeping 51 separate databases that do not talk to each other is just stupid. No... my question was why do we need the cops? Why not just let the for-profit companies do it, since they're so much better than public employees? Cops are the ones with the guns and the red/blue lights on the roof. Data processing geeks are the guys back at the county administration building with tape on their glasses. Big difference False equivalency again? The cops are corrupt. Replace them! Totally non responsive I guess you agree again We are done with this one too. Yes, you're done. You really need to get a clue about what is and what isn't false equivalency. If I believe something is, I say why. When you claim something is, you don't support yourself at all. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:43:37 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:25:06 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:23:13 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:45:16 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:56:06 -0500, wrote: I really believe tags will go away soon and you will just have an RFID tag in your car that links to all of the databases I'm betting that most righties would be fine with it until they figure out it applies to them, as well as Hispanics. I'm sure most of them have a toll transponder if they live near a toll road/bridge anyway. Same thing. It is just who wants to read it. P A R A N O I D I suppose you think the idea of scanning the RFID from your credit cards is paranoid too. No. I think that someone who believes the authorities have the time and energy to scan every car that goes by on the street looking for expired insurance is a bit paranoid. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:42:00 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:22:36 -0800, wrote: This is what they CAN do. (refering to the rights you give up in the car) The "excuse" is you look suspicious. That can be almost anything. I was shaken several times in DC, mostly because I was out late at night working. No real good reason to stop me but they did. I usually made it go pretty fast because I had a good reason to be there and I gave them permission to shake my car. After a while I got to know all the cops and I didn't have any more problems. You should have said no. I've said no. They don't like it, but they've either got to arrest or move on. Feel free to give up your civil rights. I won't. You must live in ****ing Mayberry. Try that on I-95. You are going to have a long night. The Sacramento area is pretty conservative. I have no problem forcing them to follow the law. I wouldn't do this in some hick town, but in the Capital? You're backpeddling, as no cop is going to bother running plates on every car he sees, so that he can find one that doesn't have insurance. This works the other way. They get the list of the canceled policies in their district and they go hunting. Sure... right. Again, all a bunch of a nonsense scenario that would never happen. Which part? The inventory? That is simply a fact. If for no other reason it is so you can't say they took the diamond ring you had in the console. If they do turn up a roach in your ashtray here, that is another charge and they probably search your house. This ain't California and pot is really illegal here. They are serious about it. An ounce in your night stand makes you a trafficker (20 grams) Sounds like the police are corrupt. Maybe we should replace them with cops for hire. They are enforcing the law, to let someone go would be corrupt. This is a symptom of the failed drug war but as long as the US government is pumping as much money into local law enforcement to prosecute this war it will go on. I bet you think asset forfeiture is a lie too. I bet you're still on this thing about getting stopped for lacking insurance vs. getting stopped for some other infraction and not being able to prove you have insurance. BTW why didn't you google this? http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_police...re gistration If it's parked on public property, or you're caught operating that vehicle, yes I thought you don't like wiki? When you change the subject I take it you agree with what I said Take it any way you want. http://car-insurance.onlineautoinsur...-legal-limits/ If a resident of Florida is caught owning or driving a vehicle without a policy in force which meets the state’s requirements, the resident may be ticketed. Such violations could result in hundreds of dollars in citation fines or worse, the state of FL may impound vehicles in violation. Impound fees are charged daily and towing fees could add up quickly. Keep in mind that when a vehicle is impounded, the owner is responsible for the impound fees and towing fees that may result in hundreds of dollars additional to citation fines. Which is what I posted. Key word... may. Feel lucky? Maybe not so much if you are the illegal Mexican we started this ridiculous thread with. You never answered the question. What should a cop do if you are driving with no insurance? Just let you keep doing it? Of course not, but that wasn't the issue. The issue was stopping someone BECAUSE they don't have insurance. That DOESN'T happen. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:33:25 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:19:30 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:01:56 -0500, wrote: Stranded in the sense that the cop says he will tow the car when the guy drives it out of the gate.. Sure. I'm positive he's sitting there day and night waiting for that to happen. A bunch of nonsense. He doesn't have to sit there all day, he also knows where you live and probably has a pretty good idea when you get off of work. Huh? This is his highest priority... he's going to sit there and worry about your lack of insurance. Good grief! He is a cop working traffic. What do you think his highest priority is? He's going to stop people for running lights, tail lights out, an expired sticker, failing to yield, etc., not for "lack of insurance." If the insurance company screwed up, you fix it with the insurance company. The cop does not care. It would be the same thing if you said you paid all of those parking tickets, they still tow your car once the warrant is issued and you stay on the "tow" list until the computer says you are cleared. Certainly mistakes are made and people get arrested all the time over mistakes but they still stay arrested until it gets straightened out. You have really lived a sheltered life. You certainly do not seem to know much about how cops operate. They're not going to tow your car unless you've done something else. That's just paranoia. You would have to tell that to the employee who had their car towed. Which employee is that? You never said anyone had their car towed. New information or you're just making thing up to suit you? Yes I did. I told you one of Judy's people did get stopped and had their car towed. Try to keep up. Did get stopped... FOR WHAT? Lack of insurance or something else and then they discovered the "lack of insurance." You definitely don't know how cops operate. They're mostly decent people who give people a break when they can. Yeah right. They do what they are told by their boss. Some cops give some people a break sometime but don't count on it. You seem to have a very low opinion of cops. I understand what they do for a living and evidently you don't. Have you actually spent any time with cops? (on duty or off) This is not TV. I've probably spent more than a few weeks with them during my internships. Most of their day is spent on very mundane tasks and if they "gave everyone a break" their productivity numbers would not be up to par. It is not really a "quota" but it is an expectation and there is some degree of competition. Low producers do not get promoted When the shift sargent says "we gave you a list of insurance expirations, did you find any of them" he is not going to take "yeah I found a couple but I let them go". Which has nothing to do with the "insurance" claims you're making. They are still left with the reality that if they knowingly let a person drive without insurance, the department could be liable for a wreck. Even if the suit was tossed, no Sheriff wants that showing up in a campaign. This is a community of seniors, mostly republicans, who think having insurance is a big deal. They have little patience with deadbeats. Sounds paranoid to me... Welcome to the world lawyers have given us. I am done with this. Mostly seniors, mostly republicans, who are overly paranoid. Yes, I don't doubt you're done with this. |
Winning elections is not good enough
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:19:51 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:17:04 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 01:53:02 -0500, wrote: OK ex goat herders. The idea that some guy, with no assets to his name but a rusty AKM, walking around the mountains in Afghanistan is any real threat to the US is preposterous. Which has nothing to do with OBL. Exactly, so why are we waging war on Afghanistan? At the moment it's to stabilize the country as best as possible, so that when we leave it won't return to Taliban hands. If you don't like that, talk to Mr. Obama and the generals. |
Winning elections is not good enough
I am done with this. Yea! |
Winning elections is not good enough
You said you were done.
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Winning elections is not good enough
No. I think that someone who believes the authorities have the time and energy to scan every car that goes by on the street looking for expired insurance is a bit paranoid. He's done. Go away |
Winning elections is not good enough
Of course not, but that wasn't the issue. The issue was stopping someone BECAUSE they don't have insurance. That DOESN'T happen. Go away. Come back if and when you can support your statement with facts. Girly intuition doesn't count. |
Winning elections is not good enough
Yes, I don't doubt you're done with this. Babble on if you must, but no one is listening. |
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