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NOYB,
You and I may not agree on everything, but when we disagree I always assume you are trying to offset Harry's left wing crapola. I do think it is funny that these losers are trying to get your goat by making fun of the fact that you are a doctor. Harry is grasping at straws to find something to ridicule, jps is so dumb that he is just jumping on whatever band wagon Harry is pushing. Rec.boats is better than any soap opera on TV. "NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net... "jps" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... Your failed miserable life, combined with extreme Narcissistic Personality Disorder, make you a time bomb ready to go off when it becomes apparent that your entire life's "work" has gone for naught. Pretty sad... Even if true, still better than drilling rotten teeth. Not really. With the advent of cosmetic dentistry, there's a certain satisfaction in my work when the patient leaves my office sporting a big, white Hollywood smile. With the the "only-go-to-the-dentist-when-it-hurts" kind, there's a satisfaction in knowing that they aren't in pain any longer when they leave. Either way, it's very fulFILLING (pun intended). It must suck to be an "advocate for union membership"...and then see the number of members reduced by more than 60% in the last 50 years. |
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Harry,
Have you ever been happy with yourself, or your life's achievements? It is obvious that you feel like your life is totally devoid of content. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: Couldn't hold down a job, eh? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message news:8lsbb.21089 No wonder GM finds it hard to compete. I'm sure it has been modernized that plant over the years, but the age of the facility speaks volumes about what is wrong with the management of America's car manufacturers. No kidding. Management should have shut it down years ago in favor of opening a more profitable non-union plant. I guess it took 68 years of "negotiations" with UAW to finally win concessions for closing the place. Please provide... No. *You* prove I'm wrong. No one has to. You're 30 years old and have led a sheltered life. What the hell would you know about working at an auto plant, or, for that matter, any other factory job? What would *you* know about it? You peck away at a keyboard, and before that a type-writer, writing "we hate management" slogans meant to incite anger in people out there doing real work. You represent a group that first sparks the outrage, and then reaps the benefits in the form of union dues. That makes you a low-life, exploitive, flim flam man...who's ****ed you couldn't pass "p-chem" so that you could have pursued a "real" profession. Your failed miserable life, combined with extreme Narcissistic Personality Disorder, make you a time bomb ready to go off when it becomes apparent that your entire life's "work" has gone for naught. Pretty sad... I've had both factory and construction jobs, little boy. -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. Yeah, right. You see, I always wanted to be a dentist, because I have this obsession with rotten teeth, bad breath, and inflicting dental pain. -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:OUPbb.549403$Ho3.96596@sccrnsc03... Harry, Do you honest believe calling someone a fluffer has any content whatsoever. You have to have a sense of humor Bill. Don't sweat it, maybe next life. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jps wrote: "Jim -" wrote in message et... Poor Jim/Dennis...can't even compete with a blue collar auto worker. Based on the intention of that remark, you obviously think little of the blue collar auto worker you claim to defend. You are a total farce. Notice that he never disputes the Dennis/Jim thing? Funny, him calling someone else a farce. I'll bet he's neither Jim nor Dennis. Maybe a wash out auto worker named Denice? The concept of people having 2 or three names is beyond you I guess. Yes, my full name is James Dennis. If you include my confirmation name it is James Dennis Thomas. So what is there to dispute? What kind of name is jps? |
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Gould 0738 wrote:
Blame both GM and the unions. The plant closing is due exclusively to neither party. However, with increased automation in an attempt to cut costs, union labor workforces have been cut...perhaps due to the high costs of those union workers. One also has to wonder about the efficiency of an old plant like that and whether or not GM attempted to modernize it to keep it as efficient as possible. I would have to agree. The way they make cars these days, it doesn't matter very much if the guys on the line are getting $8 an hour or a decent, living wage. Being competitive today is more about robotics and automation than whether the workforce has been hired for the lowest conceivable dollar. There aren't as many man hours in a car as just several years ago. Which brings up an interesting hypothetical question. If we were to "automate" all manufacturing, distribution, and information 100%, what would we have left for the American worker to do? The answer would probably be a good career choice for a high school senior to contemplate. Dave |
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"NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message news:8lsbb.21089 No wonder GM finds it hard to compete. I'm sure it has been modernized that plant over the years, but the age of the facility speaks volumes about what is wrong with the management of America's car manufacturers. No kidding. Management should have shut it down years ago in favor of opening a more profitable non-union plant. I guess it took 68 years of "negotiations" with UAW to finally win concessions for closing the place. Please provide... No. *You* prove I'm wrong. I did, by the way. No rebuttal? |
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No you didn't.
"basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message news:8lsbb.21089 No wonder GM finds it hard to compete. I'm sure it has been modernized that plant over the years, but the age of the facility speaks volumes about what is wrong with the management of America's car manufacturers. No kidding. Management should have shut it down years ago in favor of opening a more profitable non-union plant. I guess it took 68 years of "negotiations" with UAW to finally win concessions for closing the place. Please provide... No. *You* prove I'm wrong. I did, by the way. No rebuttal? |
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Bill,
Harry's got a tough sell here. In most Gallup surveys, dentists and engineers (I have a DDS and BSME) always poll in the top 10 to 15 most trusted professions...and journalists and labor union brass always poll near the bottom. That's mighty difficult for a Narcissist to accept. "Bill Cole" wrote in message news:HZPbb.554909$uu5.91838@sccrnsc04... NOYB, You and I may not agree on everything, but when we disagree I always assume you are trying to offset Harry's left wing crapola. I do think it is funny that these losers are trying to get your goat by making fun of the fact that you are a doctor. Harry is grasping at straws to find something to ridicule, jps is so dumb that he is just jumping on whatever band wagon Harry is pushing. Rec.boats is better than any soap opera on TV. "NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net... "jps" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... Your failed miserable life, combined with extreme Narcissistic Personality Disorder, make you a time bomb ready to go off when it becomes apparent that your entire life's "work" has gone for naught. Pretty sad... Even if true, still better than drilling rotten teeth. Not really. With the advent of cosmetic dentistry, there's a certain satisfaction in my work when the patient leaves my office sporting a big, white Hollywood smile. With the the "only-go-to-the-dentist-when-it-hurts" kind, there's a satisfaction in knowing that they aren't in pain any longer when they leave. Either way, it's very fulFILLING (pun intended). It must suck to be an "advocate for union membership"...and then see the number of members reduced by more than 60% in the last 50 years. |
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"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... snip Dave, read the whole thing a few times - before you reply. I would have to agree. The way they make cars these days, it doesn't matter very much if the guys on the line are getting $8 an hour or a decent, living wage. Being competitive today is more about robotics and automation than whether the workforce has been hired for the lowest conceivable dollar. There aren't as many man hours in a car as just several years ago. Which brings up an interesting hypothetical question. If we were to "automate" all manufacturing, distribution, and information 100%, what would we have left for the American worker to do? You did not go far enough, what *can't* be automated? Think hard. Any job that can be conducted over a telephone can be automated. Fifty years ago, most people would have had trouble seeing how a bank teller would be replaced with an ATM. Doctor Tooth can (and will) be replaced by a robot and a token low paid nurse. Cars *will* drive themselves - kiss your fall-back truck driver job goodbye. It is *very* hard to think of a job that can't be automated; certainly there are not enough of these jobs for everybody! The answer would probably be a good career choice for a high school senior to contemplate. Dave Excellent grasshopper - you have taken your first small step towards enlightenment! I am actually very surprised that you were able to think of this. It is such a *long* way from your usually Pollyanna "the free market will fix everything" stand on every issue. I asked this same question in the mid 70's as I first realized the awesome power of embedded microprocessors combined with Moore's curve. As you grapple with the question you just asked, you may slowly come to understand that the current system will *have* to lead to massive numbers of unemployed and underemployed. Nobody works as cheap as a $0.10 chip. Not even the third world; things will *have* to change in some fundamental way. We can't all be programmers. See if you are able to draw the path from the reduction of traditional jobs to where we *must* go. It could lead to very good places, or complete chaos.The most important question is "will this change be under control, or will it be thrust upon us?" If we steer towards where we want to go, we may actually get there. If our only tiller is greed and competition, we *will* go to compete anarchy. The first step down the wrong path is stratification of society into a few rich, and the rest very poor. The currently shrinking middle class is a very ominous sign. Think about it for about twenty years and you may finally see why I am a liberal. As you ponder this, think about what I keep saying over and over: "When the poor of our society do better, we all do better". Mark Browne P.S. Teachers will become *much* more important and valued in the future - think 1 to 1 teacher / student ratio. Think through what that would mean to the USAs position in the high tech and creative writing/theater/music/arts arena. Think about why I identified these as the most important areas for human endeavors. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
... Bill, Harry's got a tough sell here. In most Gallup surveys, dentists and engineers (I have a DDS and BSME) always poll in the top 10 to 15 most trusted professions...and journalists and labor union brass always poll near the bottom. That's mighty difficult for a Narcissist to accept. Though easy for a narcissist like you. |
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Mark Browne wrote:
"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... snip Dave, read the whole thing a few times - before you reply. I would have to agree. The way they make cars these days, it doesn't matter very much if the guys on the line are getting $8 an hour or a decent, living wage. Being competitive today is more about robotics and automation than whether the workforce has been hired for the lowest conceivable dollar. There aren't as many man hours in a car as just several years ago. Which brings up an interesting hypothetical question. If we were to "automate" all manufacturing, distribution, and information 100%, what would we have left for the American worker to do? You did not go far enough, what *can't* be automated? Think hard. Any job that can be conducted over a telephone can be automated. Fifty years ago, most people would have had trouble seeing how a bank teller would be replaced with an ATM. Doctor Tooth can (and will) be replaced by a robot and a token low paid nurse. Cars *will* drive themselves - kiss your fall-back truck driver job goodbye. It is *very* hard to think of a job that can't be automated; certainly there are not enough of these jobs for everybody! The answer would probably be a good career choice for a high school senior to contemplate. Dave Excellent grasshopper - you have taken your first small step towards enlightenment! I am actually very surprised that you were able to think of this. It is such a *long* way from your usually Pollyanna "the free market will fix everything" stand on every issue. I asked this same question in the mid 70's as I first realized the awesome power of embedded microprocessors combined with Moore's curve. As you grapple with the question you just asked, you may slowly come to understand that the current system will *have* to lead to massive numbers of unemployed and underemployed. Nobody works as cheap as a $0.10 chip. Not even the third world; things will *have* to change in some fundamental way. We can't all be programmers. See if you are able to draw the path from the reduction of traditional jobs to where we *must* go. It could lead to very good places, or complete chaos.The most important question is "will this change be under control, or will it be thrust upon us?" If we steer towards where we want to go, we may actually get there. If our only tiller is greed and competition, we *will* go to compete anarchy. The first step down the wrong path is stratification of society into a few rich, and the rest very poor. The currently shrinking middle class is a very ominous sign. Think about it for about twenty years and you may finally see why I am a liberal. As you ponder this, think about what I keep saying over and over: "When the poor of our society do better, we all do better". Mark Browne P.S. Teachers will become *much* more important and valued in the future - think 1 to 1 teacher / student ratio. Think through what that would mean to the USAs position in the high tech and creative writing/theater/music/arts arena. Think about why I identified these as the most important areas for human endeavors. My favorite right-wing idiocy: "Those who can do, do. Those who cannot, teach." Or some variation on that theme. Virtually every right-winger poster here has uttered that phrase at least once. It is a very revealing statement to make, because it shows the poster to be bereft of intellectuality. And, usually, jealous of the rather meager salary teachers are paid, considering the responsibility they have. The very best we have, the real thinkers and doers, usually devote themselves to teaching at some point in their lives. The aphorism might better be phrased: "Those who can do, do teach." I had some fabulous teachers in my lifetime, and I remember most of them, from Mrs. Dickstein in the fourth grade who took it upon herself to teach us French, to Mrs. Ruff in the tenth grade, who encouraged me to write poetry and study Russian so I could read some of the world's greatest literature in the language in which it was written, to Casey Jones at the Kansas City Star, who helped me polish my prose, and Bob Busby, who taught me how to write a sports lead, to Robert Penn Warren in Grad School, who rekindled my interest in poetry, to Saul Alinsky, who taught me how to make serious trouble for the opposition, hell, there are too many to mention. All great achievers and all great teachers, too. There's no higher calling than teaching. -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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jps wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message ... Bill, Harry's got a tough sell here. In most Gallup surveys, dentists and engineers (I have a DDS and BSME) always poll in the top 10 to 15 most trusted professions...and journalists and labor union brass always poll near the bottom. That's mighty difficult for a Narcissist to accept. Though easy for a narcissist like you. Ah, yes, dentists. The movers and shakers of society. -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jps wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message ... Bill, Harry's got a tough sell here. In most Gallup surveys, dentists and engineers (I have a DDS and BSME) always poll in the top 10 to 15 most trusted professions...and journalists and labor union brass always poll near the bottom. That's mighty difficult for a Narcissist to accept. Though easy for a narcissist like you. Ah, yes, dentists. The movers and shakers of society. Hehehe. Harry thinks he makes a difference in the World. |
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What? You mean rec.boats isn't a major force in influencing key leaders in
America? It must be sad when you feel that you have so much to offer humanity, and the only outlet you have is rec.boats. rec.boats is nothing more than a way to kill some time, and it can be more enjoyable than a lot of the sit coms on TV. "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... jps wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message ... Bill, Harry's got a tough sell here. In most Gallup surveys, dentists and engineers (I have a DDS and BSME) always poll in the top 10 to 15 most trusted professions...and journalists and labor union brass always poll near the bottom. That's mighty difficult for a Narcissist to accept. Though easy for a narcissist like you. Ah, yes, dentists. The movers and shakers of society. Hehehe. Harry thinks he makes a difference in the World. |
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:zY7cb.420556$cF.130353@rwcrnsc53... What? You mean rec.boats isn't a major force in influencing key leaders in America? It must be sad when you feel that you have so much to offer humanity, and the only outlet you have is rec.boats. rec.boats is nothing more than a way to kill some time, and it can be more enjoyable than a lot of the sit coms on TV. I knew that'd be your kind of entertainment. Big fan of "Friends" are you? Killing time seems to be your major interest in life. |
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jps,
I wish you were a little more challenging, but to be honest with you, you are boring me with your feeble attempts at personal attacks. First you try my profession and now you are trying to attack my choice of TV shows. Since I have not watched Friends, I really can't tell you if it a good show or not, but Jennifer Anniston is a cute as a button. It does appear that you believe rec.boats is an effective venue for making a change in American politics or attitudes. Since we disagree on many issues, I hope you continue to use rec.boats as your outlet for political discussion. It keeps you from doing anything that make have an impact on anything you view as important. "jps" wrote in message ... "Bill Cole" wrote in message news:zY7cb.420556$cF.130353@rwcrnsc53... What? You mean rec.boats isn't a major force in influencing key leaders in America? It must be sad when you feel that you have so much to offer humanity, and the only outlet you have is rec.boats. rec.boats is nothing more than a way to kill some time, and it can be more enjoyable than a lot of the sit coms on TV. I knew that'd be your kind of entertainment. Big fan of "Friends" are you? Killing time seems to be your major interest in life. |
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:Fegcb.563411$Ho3.100383@sccrnsc03... jps, I wish you were a little more challenging, but to be honest with you, you are boring me with your feeble attempts at personal attacks. First you try my profession and now you are trying to attack my choice of TV shows. Since I have not watched Friends, I really can't tell you if it a good show or not, but Jennifer Anniston is a cute as a button. It does appear that you believe rec.boats is an effective venue for making a change in American politics or attitudes. Since we disagree on many issues, I hope you continue to use rec.boats as your outlet for political discussion. It keeps you from doing anything that make have an impact on anything you view as important. Boring you? Is that why you can't resist answering, 'cause you're bored? You don't agree with my politics and you don't have the intellectual capacity to argue. You're apparently *only* capable of launching personal attacks. If that's your sport, I'll take you on but I'm not into "killing time." I expect some satisfaction from the exchange, so you'll have to bring the level of debate up an order of magnitude. Otherwise, go chase someone else's skirt. |
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In reading your posts and exchanges, it appears that you are easily
satisfied. I am not making any personal attack on you, I am just making the same observation that the majority of the readers in rec.boats have already made. "jps" wrote in message ... "Bill Cole" wrote in message news:Fegcb.563411$Ho3.100383@sccrnsc03... jps, I wish you were a little more challenging, but to be honest with you, you are boring me with your feeble attempts at personal attacks. First you try my profession and now you are trying to attack my choice of TV shows. Since I have not watched Friends, I really can't tell you if it a good show or not, but Jennifer Anniston is a cute as a button. It does appear that you believe rec.boats is an effective venue for making a change in American politics or attitudes. Since we disagree on many issues, I hope you continue to use rec.boats as your outlet for political discussion. It keeps you from doing anything that make have an impact on anything you view as important. Boring you? Is that why you can't resist answering, 'cause you're bored? You don't agree with my politics and you don't have the intellectual capacity to argue. You're apparently *only* capable of launching personal attacks. If that's your sport, I'll take you on but I'm not into "killing time." I expect some satisfaction from the exchange, so you'll have to bring the level of debate up an order of magnitude. Otherwise, go chase someone else's skirt. |
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:C5jcb.570457$uu5.93961@sccrnsc04... In reading your posts and exchanges, it appears that you are easily satisfied. I am not making any personal attack on you, I am just making the same observation that the majority of the readers in rec.boats have already made. Proof please. Talkin' out yer ass, as usual. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net...
No you didn't. If you don't think so, then you really need to learn to read. So, where is YOUR proof of a statement YOU made? |
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No. You need to learn how to write.
"basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... No you didn't. If you don't think so, then you really need to learn to read. So, where is YOUR proof of a statement YOU made? |
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smile, it is not nice to make fun of the handicapped.
"NOYB" wrote in message om... No. You need to learn how to write. "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... No you didn't. If you don't think so, then you really need to learn to read. So, where is YOUR proof of a statement YOU made? |
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NOYB wrote:
No. You need to learn how to write. "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... No you didn't. If you don't think so, then you really need to learn to read. So, where is YOUR proof of a statement YOU made? *You* are criticizing someone else's writing? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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That is as silly as Harry criticizing someone's else post being totally
devoid of content (TDC), "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: No. You need to learn how to write. "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... No you didn't. If you don't think so, then you really need to learn to read. So, where is YOUR proof of a statement YOU made? *You* are criticizing someone else's writing? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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Yes.
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: No. You need to learn how to write. "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... No you didn't. If you don't think so, then you really need to learn to read. So, where is YOUR proof of a statement YOU made? *You* are criticizing someone else's writing? -- * * * email sent to will *never* get to me. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message . com...
No. You need to learn how to write. Okay, you dimwit, here it is. You stated: No kidding. Management should have shut it down years ago in favor of opening a more profitable non-union plant. I guess it took 68 years of "negotiations" with UAW to finally win concessions for closing the place. Are you denying you said that? Then I gave DIRECT QUOTES from reputable resources that proves otherwise. So, are you saying that you couldn't understand those? Now, please show ANY evidence that your above, original statement has ANY merit. |
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