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You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
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You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
On 2/2/11 5:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management. Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance, typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions are destroying the middle class. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 17:12:02 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management. Doesn't matter? It matters to me if a stock I'm holding is destroying the rainforest, but I have no control over the CEO. Selling the shares doesn't have any affect on CEO salary, for example. They've got their parachutes and are immune from my small action. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
On Feb 2, 5:37*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:29:05 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:36:08 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:58:25 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:49:28 -0800, jps wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 02:00:06 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 22:00:40 -0800, jps wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 00:31:01 -0500, wrote: Without the farm subsidies ethanol would be very expensive. Right, let's do...nothing. Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. Ethanol still has not proved it's value. Ethanol is a ruse. *We should be investing in switchgrass or algae production and refinement. Why not CNG, it is cheap, clean and we have plenty of it? Why not invest in something we can grow instead of ripping apart the earth's crust while spoiling the water table with toxins and dangerous gases? Because we are going to run out of water long before we run out of oil. So, we should make the problem worse by using fracking? Did you just learn a new word? ? Are you trying to insult me? If so, try again. No D'Plume. He asked you a question. Mentally are you really that thick? |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
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says... On 2/2/11 12:31 AM, wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:09:43 -0500, wrote: On 2/1/11 3:58 PM, wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 12:17:11 -0500, wrote: Read up on cellulosic ethanol, Unfortunately virtually all of the ethanol made here comes from corn. That doesn't mean we're going to be forever stupid. Without the farm subsidies ethanol would be very expensive. Right, let's do...nothing. Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. Ethanol still has not proved it's value. There are other agricultural alternatives to corn ethanol. If we come up with something, I'd like it owned by the people instead of by big, multi-national corporations. We need to move away from "corporate uber alles." Why don't you start up a co-op. What a freaking dumb****. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/2/11 8:06 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 06:30:35 -0500, wrote: Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. Ethanol still has not proved it's value. There are other agricultural alternatives to corn ethanol. If we come up with something, I'd like it owned by the people instead of by big, multi-national corporations. We need to move away from "corporate uber alles." You should buy some stock in some of those big, multi-national corporations. It turns out that they are all owned by the people, people just like us. Right...small individual shareholders have the ability to control big, multi-national corporations, and Hollywood starlets call me all the time for dates. Big, multi-national corporations...that's why everything is working out so well. I prefer public ownership of the public's resources, the public's highways, the public's schools, the public's hospitals, the public's airports. et cetera. When "the system" favors only the rich, when the middle and lower income classes are regressing, when able-bodied, willing workers cannot find decent, family supporting jobs, all because of the greed at the top, it's time for serious, heavy duty change. You are an idiot. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
In article ,
says... On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management. The last six months have been very good to me. I have an unrealized gain in one company of about 45%. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/2/11 5:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management. Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance, typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions are destroying the middle class. Businesses/corporations have always run the world. You really do need to brush up on some history. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
On 2/2/11 7:41 PM, BAR wrote:
In articleqaudnU5a7qnpStTQnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/2/11 5:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management. Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance, typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions are destroying the middle class. Businesses/corporations have always run the world. You really do need to brush up on some history. Slavery used to be "legal" in this country until we made it illegal. We can change the negative impacts corporations have on society. You're a real flatlander, eh? |
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