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You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
On 2/2/11 5:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management. Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance, typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions are destroying the middle class. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 17:12:02 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management. Doesn't matter? It matters to me if a stock I'm holding is destroying the rainforest, but I have no control over the CEO. Selling the shares doesn't have any affect on CEO salary, for example. They've got their parachutes and are immune from my small action. |
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On Feb 2, 5:37*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:29:05 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:36:08 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:58:25 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:49:28 -0800, jps wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 02:00:06 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 22:00:40 -0800, jps wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 00:31:01 -0500, wrote: Without the farm subsidies ethanol would be very expensive. Right, let's do...nothing. Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. Ethanol still has not proved it's value. Ethanol is a ruse. *We should be investing in switchgrass or algae production and refinement. Why not CNG, it is cheap, clean and we have plenty of it? Why not invest in something we can grow instead of ripping apart the earth's crust while spoiling the water table with toxins and dangerous gases? Because we are going to run out of water long before we run out of oil. So, we should make the problem worse by using fracking? Did you just learn a new word? ? Are you trying to insult me? If so, try again. No D'Plume. He asked you a question. Mentally are you really that thick? |
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says... On 2/2/11 12:31 AM, wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:09:43 -0500, wrote: On 2/1/11 3:58 PM, wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 12:17:11 -0500, wrote: Read up on cellulosic ethanol, Unfortunately virtually all of the ethanol made here comes from corn. That doesn't mean we're going to be forever stupid. Without the farm subsidies ethanol would be very expensive. Right, let's do...nothing. Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. Ethanol still has not proved it's value. There are other agricultural alternatives to corn ethanol. If we come up with something, I'd like it owned by the people instead of by big, multi-national corporations. We need to move away from "corporate uber alles." Why don't you start up a co-op. What a freaking dumb****. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/2/11 8:06 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 06:30:35 -0500, wrote: Doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing. Ethanol still has not proved it's value. There are other agricultural alternatives to corn ethanol. If we come up with something, I'd like it owned by the people instead of by big, multi-national corporations. We need to move away from "corporate uber alles." You should buy some stock in some of those big, multi-national corporations. It turns out that they are all owned by the people, people just like us. Right...small individual shareholders have the ability to control big, multi-national corporations, and Hollywood starlets call me all the time for dates. Big, multi-national corporations...that's why everything is working out so well. I prefer public ownership of the public's resources, the public's highways, the public's schools, the public's hospitals, the public's airports. et cetera. When "the system" favors only the rich, when the middle and lower income classes are regressing, when able-bodied, willing workers cannot find decent, family supporting jobs, all because of the greed at the top, it's time for serious, heavy duty change. You are an idiot. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
In article ,
says... On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management. The last six months have been very good to me. I have an unrealized gain in one company of about 45%. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/2/11 5:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management. Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance, typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions are destroying the middle class. Businesses/corporations have always run the world. You really do need to brush up on some history. |
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On 2/2/11 7:41 PM, BAR wrote:
In articleqaudnU5a7qnpStTQnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/2/11 5:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management. Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance, typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions are destroying the middle class. Businesses/corporations have always run the world. You really do need to brush up on some history. Slavery used to be "legal" in this country until we made it illegal. We can change the negative impacts corporations have on society. You're a real flatlander, eh? |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... Since the 1980s, it seems, the so-called "free market" has not been serving us with its credo of no real taxes on the wealthy, no real regulation, no real government. "Market driven quality" is no quality at all. You have recently participated in Market Driven Quality. You get the quality you are willing to pay for. You problem is that you do not want others to have choices that are different from yours. |
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 19:39:36 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management. The last six months have been very good to me. I have an unrealized gain in one company of about 45%. Thus, Obama is destroying the country... |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
On 2/2/11 7:49 PM, BAR wrote:
In articleW_SdnQEoj8MQAtTQnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Since the 1980s, it seems, the so-called "free market" has not been serving us with its credo of no real taxes on the wealthy, no real regulation, no real government. "Market driven quality" is no quality at all. You have recently participated in Market Driven Quality. You get the quality you are willing to pay for. You problem is that you do not want others to have choices that are different from yours. You're a birther, Bertie. Nothing you say politically is meaningful. |
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On 2/2/11 8:18 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In om, says... In articleW_SdnQEoj8MQAtTQnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Since the 1980s, it seems, the so-called "free market" has not been serving us with its credo of no real taxes on the wealthy, no real regulation, no real government. "Market driven quality" is no quality at all. You have recently participated in Market Driven Quality. You get the quality you are willing to pay for. You problem is that you do not want others to have choices that are different from yours. Progressives believe that each and every person should have a choice, as long as it is the choice they (progressives) have made... Anything else is met with ignorance and intolerance. I wouldn't object to you and your family getting or not getting abortions. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance, typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions are destroying the middle class. Businesses/corporations have always run the world. You really do need to brush up on some history. Slavery used to be "legal" in this country until we made it illegal. Slavery is still practiced around the world. Why am I not surprised that you are not concerned with the condition of man outside the USA? We can change the negative impacts corporations have on society. Why would we want to devolve to an agrarian society? Why do you want to return to the days of 18th century? You're a real flatlander, eh? You are an idiot. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/2/11 8:18 PM, I am Tosk wrote: In om, says... In articleW_SdnQEoj8MQAtTQnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Since the 1980s, it seems, the so-called "free market" has not been serving us with its credo of no real taxes on the wealthy, no real regulation, no real government. "Market driven quality" is no quality at all. You have recently participated in Market Driven Quality. You get the quality you are willing to pay for. You problem is that you do not want others to have choices that are different from yours. Progressives believe that each and every person should have a choice, as long as it is the choice they (progressives) have made... Anything else is met with ignorance and intolerance. I wouldn't object to you and your family getting or not getting abortions. But, you object to each and every other choice that they make. Either you are pro choice or you are pro abortion. It appears that you are only pro abortion. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/2/11 7:49 PM, BAR wrote: In articleW_SdnQEoj8MQAtTQnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Since the 1980s, it seems, the so-called "free market" has not been serving us with its credo of no real taxes on the wealthy, no real regulation, no real government. "Market driven quality" is no quality at all. You have recently participated in Market Driven Quality. You get the quality you are willing to pay for. You problem is that you do not want others to have choices that are different from yours. You're a birther, Bertie. Nothing you say politically is meaningful. I see that you haven't denied participating in a Market Driven Quality commercial transaction recently. |
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On 2/3/11 8:46 AM, BAR wrote:
In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance, typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions are destroying the middle class. Businesses/corporations have always run the world. You really do need to brush up on some history. Slavery used to be "legal" in this country until we made it illegal. Slavery is still practiced around the world. Why am I not surprised that you are not concerned with the condition of man outside the USA? My comments were about the United States. My comments were not about the rest of the world. Since my comments were limited, you have no idea whether my concerns extend to the rest of the world. Your response was not logical. We can change the negative impacts corporations have on society. Why would we want to devolve to an agrarian society? Why do you want to return to the days of 18th century? Again, your comment is not logical. I offered no suggestion that we go back to an agrarian society. I do believe we can control corporations. You obviously have never taken a rigorous course in logic or participated on a debate team. You would have been laughed out of the former and kicked off the latter. You have a teabagger's approach to adult discussion. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
On 2/3/11 8:49 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleZs2dnZOE5ZfImtfQnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/2/11 8:18 PM, I am Tosk wrote: In om, says... In articleW_SdnQEoj8MQAtTQnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Since the 1980s, it seems, the so-called "free market" has not been serving us with its credo of no real taxes on the wealthy, no real regulation, no real government. "Market driven quality" is no quality at all. You have recently participated in Market Driven Quality. You get the quality you are willing to pay for. You problem is that you do not want others to have choices that are different from yours. Progressives believe that each and every person should have a choice, as long as it is the choice they (progressives) have made... Anything else is met with ignorance and intolerance. I wouldn't object to you and your family getting or not getting abortions. But, you object to each and every other choice that they make. Either you are pro choice or you are pro abortion. It appears that you are only pro abortion. Pro-choice and pro-abortion are not competing concepts. I think the choice of whether to get an abortion is up to the pregnant female. So, I obviously am pro-choice. I think safe abortions should be available to pregnant females everywhere. So, obviously, I am pro-abortion. But that doesn't mean I am in favor of "forced" abortion, as your statement seems to imply. Once again, you exhibit your inability to engage in logical discussion and debate. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... Slavery used to be "legal" in this country until we made it illegal. Slavery is still practiced around the world. Why am I not surprised that you are not concerned with the condition of man outside the USA? My comments were about the United States. My comments were not about the rest of the world. Since my comments were limited, you have no idea whether my concerns extend to the rest of the world. Your response was not logical. Are you pro slavery outside the USA? We can change the negative impacts corporations have on society. Why would we want to devolve to an agrarian society? Why do you want to return to the days of 18th century? Again, your comment is not logical. I offered no suggestion that we go back to an agrarian society. I do believe we can control corporations. You are always obtuse. You obviously have never taken a rigorous course in logic or participated on a debate team. You would have been laughed out of the former and kicked off the latter. You have a teabagger's approach to adult discussion. You have a hard time with commitment don't you. |
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On 2/3/11 9:01 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlevO6dnXU2Wdw3LtfQnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Slavery used to be "legal" in this country until we made it illegal. Slavery is still practiced around the world. Why am I not surprised that you are not concerned with the condition of man outside the USA? My comments were about the United States. My comments were not about the rest of the world. Since my comments were limited, you have no idea whether my concerns extend to the rest of the world. Your response was not logical. Are you pro slavery outside the USA? We can change the negative impacts corporations have on society. Why would we want to devolve to an agrarian society? Why do you want to return to the days of 18th century? Again, your comment is not logical. I offered no suggestion that we go back to an agrarian society. I do believe we can control corporations. You are always obtuse. There was nothing obtuse about my statements. When discussing making slavery illegal, I clearly stated "this country." Perhaps you don't know what obtuse means. You obviously have never taken a rigorous course in logic or participated on a debate team. You would have been laughed out of the former and kicked off the latter. You have a teabagger's approach to adult discussion. You have a hard time with commitment don't you. You're talking nonsense...again. The subject I raised was directed at your inability to think logically and to debate. Commitment? Commitment to what, in the context I raised? Is your inability to engage in responsible, adult discussion an outgrowth of your ducking out on formal education or your time in the marines, or both? |
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"BAR" wrote in message
. .. In article , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Slavery used to be "legal" in this country until we made it illegal. Slavery is still practiced around the world. Why am I not surprised that you are not concerned with the condition of man outside the USA? My comments were about the United States. My comments were not about the rest of the world. Since my comments were limited, you have no idea whether my concerns extend to the rest of the world. Your response was not logical. Are you pro slavery outside the USA? We can change the negative impacts corporations have on society. Why would we want to devolve to an agrarian society? Why do you want to return to the days of 18th century? Again, your comment is not logical. I offered no suggestion that we go back to an agrarian society. I do believe we can control corporations. You are always obtuse. You obviously have never taken a rigorous course in logic or participated on a debate team. You would have been laughed out of the former and kicked off the latter. You have a teabagger's approach to adult discussion. You have a hard time with commitment don't you. "rigorous course in logic" Translation: Attempting to learn something that is completely foreign to him. Parse his other statement. Is he inferring that he was a member of a debate team and that he actually debated? His closing remark was just too weird to comment on. -- Ziggy® |
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"I am Tosk" wrote in message
... In article , says... In article , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Slavery used to be "legal" in this country until we made it illegal. Slavery is still practiced around the world. Why am I not surprised that you are not concerned with the condition of man outside the USA? My comments were about the United States. My comments were not about the rest of the world. Since my comments were limited, you have no idea whether my concerns extend to the rest of the world. Your response was not logical. Are you pro slavery outside the USA? We can change the negative impacts corporations have on society. Why would we want to devolve to an agrarian society? Why do you want to return to the days of 18th century? Again, your comment is not logical. I offered no suggestion that we go back to an agrarian society. I do believe we can control corporations. You are always obtuse. You obviously have never taken a rigorous course in logic or participated on a debate team. You would have been laughed out of the former and kicked off the latter. You have a teabagger's approach to adult discussion. You have a hard time with commitment don't you. OH NOOOOOO! You were not on a debate team! I guess this means you won't get a job as a writer for a third rate sit-com...:) -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! You are insulting his former employer. You need to apologize. They made first quality fish wrapping paper. -- Ziggy® |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/2/11 5:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter how much or how little say you have. If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. Essentially you just fired the management. Doing well only refers to one aspect of a corporation's performance, typically. The problem is that corporations have become the actual government in many countries, such as this one, and corporate actions are destroying the middle class. Really? Corporations are the government here? Do they maintain the military? Make laws? That's about the most stupid statement you've made about the U.S.A. and everyone here knows you hate this country. You CAN leave you know? |
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On 2/3/11 7:56 PM, BAR wrote:
In , says... You obviously have never taken a rigorous course in logic or participated on a debate team. You would have been laughed out of the former and kicked off the latter. You have a teabagger's approach to adult discussion. You have a hard time with commitment don't you. "rigorous course in logic" Translation: Attempting to learn something that is completely foreign to him. Parse his other statement. Is he inferring that he was a member of a debate team and that he actually debated? His closing remark was just too weird to comment on. He was the debate team manager. He carried the 3x5 cards for the members of the team. This from a few mooks who couldn't have made it through a two year course of study at a community college? |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/3/11 7:56 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... You obviously have never taken a rigorous course in logic or participated on a debate team. You would have been laughed out of the former and kicked off the latter. You have a teabagger's approach to adult discussion. You have a hard time with commitment don't you. "rigorous course in logic" Translation: Attempting to learn something that is completely foreign to him. Parse his other statement. Is he inferring that he was a member of a debate team and that he actually debated? His closing remark was just too weird to comment on. He was the debate team manager. He carried the 3x5 cards for the members of the team. This from a few mooks who couldn't have made it through a two year course of study at a community college? Your jealousy is apparent. |
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On Feb 2, 7:28*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 19:39:36 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:38:39 -0800, wrote: So, you think the small investor in a multinational has some actual say in how the company is run and the ethics involved? It's only recently that CEO pay has been on the table as needing non-binding approval of the stockholders! It doesn't really matter *how much or how little say you have. *If the company is doing well, you share in the gains just like all of the other owners. *If it's not doing well you vote with your telephone and sell the stock. *Essentially you just fired the management. The last six months have been very good to me. I have an unrealized gain in one company of about 45%. Thus, Obama is destroying the country... Your words? |
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On 2/3/11 10:06 PM, BAR wrote:
In articleVsOdnQWr6_1jxdbQnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/3/11 7:56 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... You obviously have never taken a rigorous course in logic or participated on a debate team. You would have been laughed out of the former and kicked off the latter. You have a teabagger's approach to adult discussion. You have a hard time with commitment don't you. "rigorous course in logic" Translation: Attempting to learn something that is completely foreign to him. Parse his other statement. Is he inferring that he was a member of a debate team and that he actually debated? His closing remark was just too weird to comment on. He was the debate team manager. He carried the 3x5 cards for the members of the team. This from a few mooks who couldn't have made it through a two year course of study at a community college? Your jealousy is apparent. Of what? Your going into the military instead of college... Your inability to think logically? Your inability to maintain an adult discussion? Your circle of jerkoff right-wing buddies here? Your belief in "birther-ism"? Your "go-fer" job at a tech company? Your lack of a boat? Sorry, BertieBirther...you just don't have anything that interests me. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... Your jealousy is apparent. Of what? Your going into the military instead of college... Your inability to think logically? Your inability to maintain an adult discussion? Your circle of jerkoff right-wing buddies here? Your belief in "birther-ism"? Your "go-fer" job at a tech company? Your lack of a boat? Sorry, BertieBirther...you just don't have anything that interests me. You are jealous of me. |
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On 2/4/11 7:35 AM, BAR wrote:
In article49ydnb4Ny8hefNbQnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Your jealousy is apparent. Of what? Your going into the military instead of college... Your inability to think logically? Your inability to maintain an adult discussion? Your circle of jerkoff right-wing buddies here? Your belief in "birther-ism"? Your "go-fer" job at a tech company? Your lack of a boat? Sorry, BertieBirther...you just don't have anything that interests me. You are jealous of me. I suppose that *is* what passes for a thought in your pea-brain. |
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:35:23 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , payer3389 says... Your jealousy is apparent. Of what? Your going into the military instead of college... Your inability to think logically? Your inability to maintain an adult discussion? Your circle of jerkoff right-wing buddies here? Your belief in "birther-ism"? Your "go-fer" job at a tech company? Your lack of a boat? Sorry, BertieBirther...you just don't have anything that interests me. You are jealous of me. Having met you both, I can state that Harry has good reason for his jealousy! |
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"BAR" wrote in message
. .. In article , says... You obviously have never taken a rigorous course in logic or participated on a debate team. You would have been laughed out of the former and kicked off the latter. You have a teabagger's approach to adult discussion. You have a hard time with commitment don't you. "rigorous course in logic" Translation: Attempting to learn something that is completely foreign to him. Parse his other statement. Is he inferring that he was a member of a debate team and that he actually debated? His closing remark was just too weird to comment on. He was the debate team manager. He carried the 3x5 cards for the members of the team. Likely, you are correct. I can't imagine him debating. After all, he's NEVER shown us he's capable. -- Ziggy® |
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"John H" wrote in message
... On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:35:23 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , payer3389 says... Your jealousy is apparent. Of what? Your going into the military instead of college... Your inability to think logically? Your inability to maintain an adult discussion? Your circle of jerkoff right-wing buddies here? Your belief in "birther-ism"? Your "go-fer" job at a tech company? Your lack of a boat? Sorry, BertieBirther...you just don't have anything that interests me. You are jealous of me. Having met you both, I can state that Harry has good reason for his jealousy! Now that we have an unbiased expert opinion that states the obvious, can we close this case? -- Ziggy® |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/3/11 10:06 PM, BAR wrote: In articleVsOdnQWr6_1jxdbQnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/3/11 7:56 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... You obviously have never taken a rigorous course in logic or participated on a debate team. You would have been laughed out of the former and kicked off the latter. You have a teabagger's approach to adult discussion. You have a hard time with commitment don't you. "rigorous course in logic" Translation: Attempting to learn something that is completely foreign to him. Parse his other statement. Is he inferring that he was a member of a debate team and that he actually debated? His closing remark was just too weird to comment on. He was the debate team manager. He carried the 3x5 cards for the members of the team. This from a few mooks who couldn't have made it through a two year course of study at a community college? Your jealousy is apparent. Of what? Your going into the military instead of college... Many brave men did just that, coward. Your inability to think logically? Do you think that your position that everything conservative is bad, everything liberal is good is logical? Your inability to maintain an adult discussion? Do you mean like your name calling and insulting every time someone disagrees with you? Your circle of jerkoff right-wing buddies here? Not unlike you, Don and slammer, eh? Your belief in "birther-ism"? Your "go-fer" job at a tech company? Your unemployment? Your lack of a boat? Your lack of a boat? Sorry, BertieBirther...you just don't have anything that interests me. Sorry, Harry, your lies don't interest me. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
On 2/4/11 8:42 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:35:23 -0500, wrote: In article49ydnb4Ny8hefNbQnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... Your jealousy is apparent. Of what? Your going into the military instead of college... Your inability to think logically? Your inability to maintain an adult discussion? Your circle of jerkoff right-wing buddies here? Your belief in "birther-ism"? Your "go-fer" job at a tech company? Your lack of a boat? Sorry, BertieBirther...you just don't have anything that interests me. You are jealous of me. Having met you both, I can state that Harry has good reason for his jealousy! Doubt it. I'm not interested in your butt as BertieBirther is. |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:53:36 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:37:57 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:29:05 -0500, wrote: Why not invest in something we can grow instead of ripping apart the earth's crust while spoiling the water table with toxins and dangerous gases? Because we are going to run out of water long before we run out of oil. So, we should make the problem worse by using fracking? Did you just learn a new word? ? Are you trying to insult me? If so, try again. No, it was just your one word answer to two posts in a row. No offence intended Ok. In any case, I pointed out that that technique isn't pollution/risk free. In fact, it's pretty bad. I agree there have been some problem in a few places with this but the majority of the fracking does not hurt anyone. Some problems? Lots of problems... igniting water from someone's tap is pretty serious. Don't know about the majority. You mean more than 50%? There have been a few problems, widely reported by the media but the process has been harmless most of the times it is used. What was that you said about the health care bill 'Fix the problems" More than "a few problems." I'm happy to entertain the notion of fixing the problems with fracking. Perhaps they can start by disclosing the chemical mix they use. Do you know of anything that doesn't affect someone? Sure. If my cat pees on a bush and I don't know about it, I suspect nobody is affected. Is that an equivalency attempt you're trying to make? I am trying to say "energy" is never going to be free of costs or even dangers. I agree. How about nuclear? France seems to be doing it safely. Oh wait, the French can't be trusted... lol |
You Will be forced to use 15% ethanol
On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 02:43:12 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 11:22:05 -0800, wrote: On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:53:36 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:37:57 -0800, wrote: On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:29:05 -0500, wrote: Why not invest in something we can grow instead of ripping apart the earth's crust while spoiling the water table with toxins and dangerous gases? Because we are going to run out of water long before we run out of oil. So, we should make the problem worse by using fracking? Did you just learn a new word? ? Are you trying to insult me? If so, try again. No, it was just your one word answer to two posts in a row. No offence intended Ok. In any case, I pointed out that that technique isn't pollution/risk free. In fact, it's pretty bad. I agree there have been some problem in a few places with this but the majority of the fracking does not hurt anyone. Some problems? Lots of problems... igniting water from someone's tap is pretty serious. Don't know about the majority. You mean more than 50%? There have been a few problems, widely reported by the media but the process has been harmless most of the times it is used. What was that you said about the health care bill 'Fix the problems" More than "a few problems." I'm happy to entertain the notion of fixing the problems with fracking. Perhaps they can start by disclosing the chemical mix they use. The problems I have heard are mostly because they were fracking too close to the surface and in residential areas. You mean that left up to the companies, who by the way deny everything, we shouldn't have any gov't oversight because there aren't any problems.. Do you know of anything that doesn't affect someone? Sure. If my cat pees on a bush and I don't know about it, I suspect nobody is affected. Is that an equivalency attempt you're trying to make? I am trying to say "energy" is never going to be free of costs or even dangers. I agree. How about nuclear? France seems to be doing it safely. Oh wait, the French can't be trusted... lol I am OK with nuclear but the waste is still a problem. Yes, it's a problem, but there's got to be a trade-off. |
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