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Subject: FW: Walmart vs Morons
Thought you all just might enjoy this tidbit of info--it is amazing!!!!!!! 1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at WalMart every hour of every day. 2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute! 3. WalMart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year. 4. WalMart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined. 5. WalMart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, and most speak English. 6. WalMart is the largest company in the history of the world. 7. WalMart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years. 8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy. 9. WalMart now sells more food than any other store in the world. 10. WalMart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago. 11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at WalMart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.) 12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a WalMart. You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run WalMart to fix the economy. This should be read and understood by all Americans Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!! To the President and all 535 voting members of the Legislature,both parties. It is now official you are ALL corrupt morons: a.. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is broke. b.. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke. c.. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is broke. d.. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more. e.. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are broke. f.. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right and it is broke. g.. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure. You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars. AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ?? YOU THINK YOU CAN RUN THE AUTO INDUSTRY.. THE BANKING SYSTEM?? MAYBE WE OUGHT TO KICK YOUR EGG-HEAD BUDDY BUMS OUT OF OFFICE AND HIRE WALMART TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT ??? WALMART SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS.......WHY DON'T YOU GUYS JUST ADMIT IT'S WAY BEYOND YOUR PAY GRADE, AND QUIT? "You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out." -- Ziggy® |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:20:42 -0500, Ziggy® wrote:
Subject: FW: Walmart vs Morons Thought you all just might enjoy this tidbit of info--it is amazing!!!!!!! 1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at WalMart every hour of every day. 2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute! 3. WalMart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year. 4. WalMart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined. 5. WalMart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, and most speak English. 6. WalMart is the largest company in the history of the world. 7. WalMart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years. 8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy. 9. WalMart now sells more food than any other store in the world. 10. WalMart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago. 11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at WalMart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.) 12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a WalMart. You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run WalMart to fix the economy. This should be read and understood by all Americans Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!! To the President and all 535 voting members of the Legislature,both parties. It is now official you are ALL corrupt morons: a.. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is broke. b.. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke. c.. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is broke. d.. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more. e.. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are broke. f.. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right and it is broke. g.. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure. You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars. AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ?? YOU THINK YOU CAN RUN THE AUTO INDUSTRY.. THE BANKING SYSTEM?? MAYBE WE OUGHT TO KICK YOUR EGG-HEAD BUDDY BUMS OUT OF OFFICE AND HIRE WALMART TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT ??? WALMART SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS.......WHY DON'T YOU GUYS JUST ADMIT IT'S WAY BEYOND YOUR PAY GRADE, AND QUIT? "You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out." The math doesn't work for the first two lines. WalMart also allows RV to spend the night in their parking lots - at no charge. Of course, since there's nothing to do there but shop, that's what most folks do. WalMart sells a lot of food to RV owners. |
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On 1/17/11 7:01 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:20:42 -0500, wrote: Subject: FW: Walmart vs Morons Thought you all just might enjoy this tidbit of info--it is amazing!!!!!!! 1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at WalMart every hour of every day. 2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute! 3. WalMart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year. 4. WalMart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined. 5. WalMart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, and most speak English. 6. WalMart is the largest company in the history of the world. 7. WalMart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years. 8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy. 9. WalMart now sells more food than any other store in the world. 10. WalMart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago. 11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at WalMart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.) 12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a WalMart. You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run WalMart to fix the economy. This should be read and understood by all Americans Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!! To the President and all 535 voting members of the Legislature,both parties. It is now official you are ALL corrupt morons: a.. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is broke. b.. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke. c.. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is broke. d.. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more. e.. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are broke. f.. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right and it is broke. g.. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure. You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars. AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ?? YOU THINK YOU CAN RUN THE AUTO INDUSTRY.. THE BANKING SYSTEM?? MAYBE WE OUGHT TO KICK YOUR EGG-HEAD BUDDY BUMS OUT OF OFFICE AND HIRE WALMART TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT ??? WALMART SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS.......WHY DON'T YOU GUYS JUST ADMIT IT'S WAY BEYOND YOUR PAY GRADE, AND QUIT? "You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out." The math doesn't work for the first two lines. WalMart also allows RV to spend the night in their parking lots - at no charge. Of course, since there's nothing to do there but shop, that's what most folks do. WalMart sells a lot of food to RV owners. Mindless right-wing crap...there's no end to it. |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:03:22 -0500, Harryk wrote:
On 1/17/11 7:01 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:20:42 -0500, wrote: Subject: FW: Walmart vs Morons Thought you all just might enjoy this tidbit of info--it is amazing!!!!!!! 1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at WalMart every hour of every day. 2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute! 3. WalMart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year. 4. WalMart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined. 5. WalMart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, and most speak English. 6. WalMart is the largest company in the history of the world. 7. WalMart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years. 8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy. 9. WalMart now sells more food than any other store in the world. 10. WalMart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago. 11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at WalMart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.) 12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a WalMart. You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run WalMart to fix the economy. This should be read and understood by all Americans Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!! To the President and all 535 voting members of the Legislature,both parties. It is now official you are ALL corrupt morons: a.. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is broke. b.. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke. c.. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is broke. d.. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more. e.. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are broke. f.. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right and it is broke. g.. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure. You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars. AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ?? YOU THINK YOU CAN RUN THE AUTO INDUSTRY.. THE BANKING SYSTEM?? MAYBE WE OUGHT TO KICK YOUR EGG-HEAD BUDDY BUMS OUT OF OFFICE AND HIRE WALMART TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT ??? WALMART SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS.......WHY DON'T YOU GUYS JUST ADMIT IT'S WAY BEYOND YOUR PAY GRADE, AND QUIT? "You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out." The math doesn't work for the first two lines. WalMart also allows RV to spend the night in their parking lots - at no charge. Of course, since there's nothing to do there but shop, that's what most folks do. WalMart sells a lot of food to RV owners. Mindless right-wing crap...there's no end to it. Believe it or not, Harry, not all RV'ers are right-wingers. Some good friends in our little group are liberal as all hell. Of course, they're also personable and honest. |
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On Jan 17, 7:01*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:20:42 -0500, Ziggy wrote: Subject: FW: Walmart vs Morons Thought you all just might enjoy this tidbit of info--it is amazing!!!!!!! 1. *Americans spend $36,000,000 at WalMart every *hour of every *day. 2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute! 3. *WalMart *will sell more from January 1 to St. *Patrick's Day (March 17th) than *Target sells all year. 4. WalMart is *bigger than Home Depot + *Kroger + Target +Sears *+ Costco + K-Mart *combined. 5. *WalMart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, *and most speak English. 6. WalMart is the largest company in the history *of the world. 7. WalMart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway *combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years. 8. During *this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy. 9. *WalMart now sells more food than any other store in the world. 10. *WalMart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of *which 1,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years *ago. 11. This year 7.2 *billion different purchasing experiences *will occur at WalMart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 *Billion.) 12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a *WalMart. You may think *that I am complaining, but I am really *laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run *WalMart to fix the economy. This should be read and understood by all *Americans Democrats, Republicans, *EVERYONE!! To the *President *and all 535 voting members of *the *Legislature,both parties. *It is now official you are ALL *corrupt *morons: a.. The U.S. *Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right *and it is broke. b.. *Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right *and it is broke. c.. *Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it *is *broke. d.. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" *and they only want *more. e.. *Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. *You have had *44 years to get it right and they are *broke. f.. *Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get *it right and it is *broke. g.. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on *foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a *year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right *and it is an abysmal *failure. You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax *dollars. AND *YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH *CARE SYSTEM *?? YOU THINK YOU CAN RUN THE AUTO INDUSTRY.. THE BANKING SYSTEM?? MAYBE *WE OUGHT TO KICK YOUR EGG-HEAD BUDDY BUMS OUT OF OFFICE AND HIRE WALMART TO RUN *THE *GOVERNMENT *??? WALMART SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS.......WHY DON'T YOU GUYS JUST ADMIT *IT'S WAY BEYOND YOUR PAY GRADE, AND QUIT? "You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out." The math doesn't work for the first two lines. WalMart also allows RV to spend the night in their parking lots - at no charge. Of course, since there's nothing to do there but shop, that's what most folks do. WalMart sells a lot of food to RV owners. You should also know that " certain " Walmarts (if not all ) do NOT allow Semis to park in the parking lot. It doesn't matter if the Driver has just driven 10 strait hours to get their **** there. Walmart is China in a fancy package. |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:03:22 -0500, Harryk
wrote: On 1/17/11 7:01 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:20:42 -0500, wrote: Subject: FW: Walmart vs Morons Thought you all just might enjoy this tidbit of info--it is amazing!!!!!!! 1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at WalMart every hour of every day. 2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute! 3. WalMart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year. 4. WalMart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined. 5. WalMart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, and most speak English. 6. WalMart is the largest company in the history of the world. 7. WalMart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years. 8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy. 9. WalMart now sells more food than any other store in the world. 10. WalMart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago. 11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at WalMart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.) 12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a WalMart. You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run WalMart to fix the economy. This should be read and understood by all Americans Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!! To the President and all 535 voting members of the Legislature,both parties. It is now official you are ALL corrupt morons: a.. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is broke. b.. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke. c.. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is broke. d.. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more. e.. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are broke. f.. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right and it is broke. g.. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure. You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars. AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ?? YOU THINK YOU CAN RUN THE AUTO INDUSTRY.. THE BANKING SYSTEM?? MAYBE WE OUGHT TO KICK YOUR EGG-HEAD BUDDY BUMS OUT OF OFFICE AND HIRE WALMART TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT ??? WALMART SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS.......WHY DON'T YOU GUYS JUST ADMIT IT'S WAY BEYOND YOUR PAY GRADE, AND QUIT? "You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out." The math doesn't work for the first two lines. WalMart also allows RV to spend the night in their parking lots - at no charge. Of course, since there's nothing to do there but shop, that's what most folks do. WalMart sells a lot of food to RV owners. Mindless right-wing crap...there's no end to it. Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." |
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On 1/17/11 7:10 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:03:22 -0500, wrote: On 1/17/11 7:01 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:20:42 -0500, wrote: Subject: FW: Walmart vs Morons Thought you all just might enjoy this tidbit of info--it is amazing!!!!!!! 1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at WalMart every hour of every day. 2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute! 3. WalMart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year. 4. WalMart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined. 5. WalMart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, and most speak English. 6. WalMart is the largest company in the history of the world. 7. WalMart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years. 8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy. 9. WalMart now sells more food than any other store in the world. 10. WalMart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago. 11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at WalMart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.) 12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a WalMart. You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run WalMart to fix the economy. This should be read and understood by all Americans Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!! To the President and all 535 voting members of the Legislature,both parties. It is now official you are ALL corrupt morons: a.. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is broke. b.. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke. c.. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is broke. d.. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more. e.. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are broke. f.. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right and it is broke. g.. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure. You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars. AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ?? YOU THINK YOU CAN RUN THE AUTO INDUSTRY.. THE BANKING SYSTEM?? MAYBE WE OUGHT TO KICK YOUR EGG-HEAD BUDDY BUMS OUT OF OFFICE AND HIRE WALMART TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT ??? WALMART SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS.......WHY DON'T YOU GUYS JUST ADMIT IT'S WAY BEYOND YOUR PAY GRADE, AND QUIT? "You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out." The math doesn't work for the first two lines. WalMart also allows RV to spend the night in their parking lots - at no charge. Of course, since there's nothing to do there but shop, that's what most folks do. WalMart sells a lot of food to RV owners. Mindless right-wing crap...there's no end to it. Believe it or not, Harry, not all RV'ers are right-wingers. Some good friends in our little group are liberal as all hell. Of course, they're also personable and honest. My comment was about the attempt to put Wal-Mart on a pedestal, not about RV'ers. D'oh. |
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On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? What are you smoking, Wayne? |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:57:28 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? Tell you what. Why don't you organize a self-sustaining not for profit group that provides all of the goods and services that everyone needs. If your prices are competetive and you provide a good customer experience, the world will beat a path to your door, and the evil "for profit corporations" will be driven out of business. What's so difficult about that? By the way, please pay your employees well, provide them with good benefits, and make sure all of your suppliers are in the US. How about we let gov't do what we pay it to do instead of continually praying at the alter of unfettered capitalism. I do pay my employees well, provide health insurance, and I believe most of what we buy is made here. |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:54:33 -0800, jps wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:57:28 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? Tell you what. Why don't you organize a self-sustaining not for profit group that provides all of the goods and services that everyone needs. If your prices are competetive and you provide a good customer experience, the world will beat a path to your door, and the evil "for profit corporations" will be driven out of business. What's so difficult about that? By the way, please pay your employees well, provide them with good benefits, and make sure all of your suppliers are in the US. You whackos can't see the case for balance. It's either no-holds-barred capitalism with all the ugly implications, or it's socialism and the nanny state. Your arguments are intellectually dishonest, as if there's no place in the middle. Exactly. With extremists there's no middle ground. |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0500, Harryk
wrote: On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? What are you smoking, Wayne? Are you telling us that you actually had a successful career in corporate America that you've never told us about? Not likely in my opinion. The vitriol of you and your proxy spokespersons says it all. |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:58:01 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:37:51 -0800, jps wrote: It wasn't always that way. Sam Walton refused to purchase anything that wasn't made in the USA. He's dead and so is his patriotism. The interesting thing is pretty much all of America followed the lead of the Walton kids. Sam sr invented the concept of "Market Driven Quality". Basically don't give the customer more quality than he will pay for. When Gerstner took over IBM he embraced this idea. We threw away our "six sigma" quality hats, stopped emulating Sony and got our MDQ hat http://gfretwell.com/electrical/mdq.jpg Real quality went out the window. We gave the customer what the cheapest one was willing to pay for and being the industry leader, everyone else followed. Now when you call for service, you get a guy in India. Under Gerstner IBM reduced their US staff by about 45% and made a **** load of money. The Walton kids figured out the American public was of the same mind. They would always buy the cheapest product, giving up quality for price and the best place to find those products was China. They had their old Little Rock neighbor (and spouse of a former board member) in the White House to ease any trade restrictions so off they went to China looking for cheap products. The rest is history. WalMart went from an also ran, regional chain store to the biggest retailer in the world in a decade. It really doesn't matter whether you look at retailers, airlines or computer systems, we seem to be giving up quality and service for a cheap price. Buy it cheap, use it up and throw it away. I agree with you, basically. The issue is that cheaper isn't necessarily better when it comes to the public welfare. That's why I don't believe corporations can possibly do the right thing in that regard... at least not without appropriate regulation and oversight. |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:55:10 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:59:08 -0800, wrote: Tell you what. Why don't you organize a self-sustaining not for profit group that provides all of the goods and services that everyone needs. If your prices are competetive and you provide a good customer experience, the world will beat a path to your door, and the evil "for profit corporations" will be driven out of business. What's so difficult about that? By the way, please pay your employees well, provide them with good benefits, and make sure all of your suppliers are in the US. How about we let gov't do what we pay it to do instead of continually praying at the alter of unfettered capitalism. ========= That is certainly not what I think the government should be doing, nor did the founders of this country. Government as the ultimate panacea for all ills is a relatively recent notion. It would be unaffordable even if it were desirable. Well, what exactly do you think gov't is supposed to do?? Not protect its citizens? That's what public health, for example, is all about. Ensure some standard education level? What exactly don't you like about gov't? The former Soviet Union created a culture where there was no penalty for failure and no reward for success. It didn't work there and it won't work anywhere else because it goes aginst human nature. We are in no way comparable to the SU. Nobody is advocating anything that's even 1/1000 of what happened there. Tell you what. Why don't you organize a self-sustaining not for profit group that provides all of the goods and services that everyone needs. If your prices are competetive and you provide a good customer experience, the world will beat a path to your door, and the evil "for profit corporations" will be driven out of business. What's so difficult about that? By the way, please pay your employees well, provide them with good benefits, and make sure all of your suppliers are in the US. The answer is that you couldn't do it. Without a profit motive no one would even try. The answer is from a question that has no meaning. |
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On Jan 17, 8:59*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:57:28 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. *Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? Tell you what. Why don't you organize a self-sustaining not for profit group that provides all of the goods and services that everyone needs. If your prices are competetive and you provide a good customer experience, the world will beat a path to your door, and the evil "for profit corporations" will be driven out of business. *What's so difficult about that? *By the way, please pay your employees well, provide them with good benefits, and make sure all of your suppliers are in the US. How about we let gov't do what we pay it to do instead of continually praying at the alter of unfettered capitalism. I do pay my employees well, provide health insurance, and I believe most of what we buy is made here. Now, justify the rest of it . DPlume. that is, if you can. |
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On Jan 17, 8:59*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:54:33 -0800, jps wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:57:28 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. *Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? Tell you what. Why don't you organize a self-sustaining not for profit group that provides all of the goods and services that everyone needs. If your prices are competetive and you provide a good customer experience, the world will beat a path to your door, and the evil "for profit corporations" will be driven out of business. *What's so difficult about that? *By the way, please pay your employees well, provide them with good benefits, and make sure all of your suppliers are in the US. You whackos can't see the case for balance. *It's either no-holds-barred capitalism with all the ugly implications, or it's socialism and the nanny state. Your arguments are intellectually dishonest, as if there's no place in the middle. Exactly. With extremists there's no middle ground. You prove that here on a seemingly regular basis. |
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On Jan 17, 8:54*pm, jps wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:57:28 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. *Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? Tell you what. Why don't you organize a self-sustaining not for profit group that provides all of the goods and services that everyone needs. If your prices are competetive and you provide a good customer experience, the world will beat a path to your door, and the evil "for profit corporations" will be driven out of business. *What's so difficult about that? *By the way, please pay your employees well, provide them with good benefits, and make sure all of your suppliers are in the US. You whackos can't see the case for balance. *It's either no-holds-barred capitalism with all the ugly implications, or it's socialism and the nanny state. Your arguments are intellectually dishonest, as if there's no place in the middle. For once, it is good to see you spelled "intellectually" correctly. |
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On Jan 18, 12:23*am, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:58:01 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:37:51 -0800, jps wrote: It wasn't always that way. *Sam Walton refused to purchase anything that wasn't made in the USA. He's dead and so is his patriotism. The interesting thing is pretty much all of America followed the lead of the Walton kids. Sam sr invented the concept of "Market Driven Quality". Basically don't give the customer more quality than he will pay for. When Gerstner took over IBM he embraced this idea. We threw away our "six sigma" quality hats, stopped emulating Sony and got our MDQ hat http://gfretwell.com/electrical/mdq.jpg Real quality went out the window. We gave the customer what the cheapest one was willing to pay for and being the industry leader, everyone else followed. Now when you call for service, you get a guy in India. Under Gerstner IBM reduced their US staff by about 45% and made a **** load of money. The Walton kids figured out the American public was of the same mind. They would always buy the cheapest product, giving up quality for price and the best place to find those products was China. They had their old Little Rock neighbor (and spouse of a former board member) in the White House to ease any trade restrictions so off they went to China looking for cheap products. The rest is history. WalMart went from an also ran, regional chain store to the biggest retailer in the world in a decade. It really doesn't matter whether you look at retailers, airlines or computer systems, we seem to be giving up quality and service for a cheap price. Buy it cheap, use it up and throw it away. I agree with you, basically. Now, this is a first. |
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On 1/17/11 11:13 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0500, wrote: On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? What are you smoking, Wayne? Are you telling us that you actually had a successful career in corporate America that you've never told us about? Not likely in my opinion. The vitriol of you and your proxy spokespersons says it all. Early in my professional working career, I was a successful employee of a major American newspaper, the government, the largest wire service, a labor union and two advertising/PR agencies. In each case in those days, I left for better opportunities. What little respect I had for the "corporate world" dissipated during the 1980s. |
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@mypacks.net says... On 1/17/11 11:13 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0500, wrote: On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? What are you smoking, Wayne? Are you telling us that you actually had a successful career in corporate America that you've never told us about? Not likely in my opinion. The vitriol of you and your proxy spokespersons says it all. Early in my professional working career, I was a successful employee of a major American newspaper, the government, the largest wire service, a labor union and two advertising/PR agencies. In each case in those days, I left for better opportunities. What little respect I had for the "corporate world" dissipated during the 1980s. I found out that there was this thing called pay for performance in the 80's. You got paid for your performance. If you performed well you were paid well. If you were a lay about and didn't do your job you were fired. My pay increased so much during the 80's it was amazing. I can see why you were disillusioned Harry. |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:20:54 -0500, Gene
wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:01:40 -0500, John H wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:20:42 -0500, Ziggy® wrote: Subject: FW: Walmart vs Morons Thought you all just might enjoy this tidbit of info--it is amazing!!!!!!! The math doesn't work for the first two lines. WalMart also allows RV to spend the night in their parking lots - at no charge. Of course, since there's nothing to do there but shop, that's what most folks do. WalMart sells a lot of food to RV owners. The problem with Wal-Mart is that they sold out America. When Sam Walton was alive, "Made in America" meant something... now, it doesn't.... at least, at Wal-Mart. I just choose to trade in a manner that benefits *THIS* side of the border...... I have another issue with the dumbing of America. Wal-Mart has put a lot of Ma & Pa stores out of business where, penny wise and pound foolish, folks have forsaken the expert knowledge and help available for a few shekels less for product.... and, actually, paid the price, anyway, because Wal-Mart has contrived to pay their part time "associates" at a rate that qualifies them for public assistance. (Talk about both ends against the middle!) Anyway, a few years hence and they can still buy *stuff* cheap, they just can't find any expert advice from the *associates* trained only on the scanner.... The RV thing is one of the things I think works well for Wal-Mart.... it, amazingly, isn't necessarily a hooray for us to hell with you thing, like the China (product) connection is. Wal-Mart has traded a few square feet of unused parking lot for a few extra eyes protecting their property.... equitable trade, I think.... RV shoppers are a bonus.... What stores do you use that pay their associates so well and don't sell Chinese stuff? Do you shop only in 'union' stores? The days of looking for the union label are pretty much gone. Except for automobiles, the union label doesn't show up on much. If we can learn anything from Ford, the label may gradually leave automobiles also. Watch and listen to the last couple lines: http://apps.detnews.com/apps/multime...ex.php?id=1189 While in Germany we toured the Mercedes plant in Stuttgart. Their assembly lines are much like that shown in the video, with different models intermixed on the same line. |
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On 1/18/11 8:41 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlemMednZP5eLhY6qjQnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 1/17/11 11:13 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0500, wrote: On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? What are you smoking, Wayne? Are you telling us that you actually had a successful career in corporate America that you've never told us about? Not likely in my opinion. The vitriol of you and your proxy spokespersons says it all. Early in my professional working career, I was a successful employee of a major American newspaper, the government, the largest wire service, a labor union and two advertising/PR agencies. In each case in those days, I left for better opportunities. What little respect I had for the "corporate world" dissipated during the 1980s. I found out that there was this thing called pay for performance in the 80's. You got paid for your performance. If you performed well you were paid well. If you were a lay about and didn't do your job you were fired. My pay increased so much during the 80's it was amazing. I can see why you were disillusioned Harry. My "pay" increased from the $50,000 salary I was making in 1976 as a senior account exec at a DC 4A's advertising agency to $155,000 in fees and commissions the next year as an independent marketing consultant. Of course, I had to pay both sides of Social Security taxes that year. I was disillusioned by the "corporate world" in the 1980s when greed became the only driving force behind many corporations. By then, I was 10 years off of steeenking corporate payrolls. |
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In article , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 1/17/11 11:13 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0500, wrote: On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? What are you smoking, Wayne? Are you telling us that you actually had a successful career in corporate America that you've never told us about? Not likely in my opinion. The vitriol of you and your proxy spokespersons says it all. Early in my professional working career, I was a successful employee of a major American newspaper, the government, the largest wire service, a labor union and two advertising/PR agencies. In each case in those days, I left for better opportunities. What little respect I had for the "corporate world" dissipated during the 1980s. I found out that there was this thing called pay for performance in the 80's. You got paid for your performance. If you performed well you were paid well. If you were a lay about and didn't do your job you were fired. My pay increased so much during the 80's it was amazing. I can see why you were disillusioned Harry. Sucker. You could have joined a union and received huge pay and benefit increases for nothing more than time in service. No work required. and as a side benefit you would have contributed to breaking the back of your corporate employer. -- Ziggy® |
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On Jan 17, 8:59 pm, wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:57:28 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? Tell you what. Why don't you organize a self-sustaining not for profit group that provides all of the goods and services that everyone needs. If your prices are competetive and you provide a good customer experience, the world will beat a path to your door, and the evil "for profit corporations" will be driven out of business. What's so difficult about that? By the way, please pay your employees well, provide them with good benefits, and make sure all of your suppliers are in the US. How about we let gov't do what we pay it to do instead of continually praying at the alter of unfettered capitalism. I do pay my employees well, provide health insurance, and I believe most of what we buy is made here. Now, justify the rest of it . DPlume. that is, if you can. Doesn't her statement remind you of the time a few years ago when Harry was going to expand his "staff" and provide them with extravagant benefits unheard of in small business America. I guess, if you are going to lie, why not lie big time. -- Ziggy® |
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@mypacks.net says... On 1/18/11 8:41 AM, BAR wrote: In articlemMednZP5eLhY6qjQnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 1/17/11 11:13 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0500, wrote: On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? What are you smoking, Wayne? Are you telling us that you actually had a successful career in corporate America that you've never told us about? Not likely in my opinion. The vitriol of you and your proxy spokespersons says it all. Early in my professional working career, I was a successful employee of a major American newspaper, the government, the largest wire service, a labor union and two advertising/PR agencies. In each case in those days, I left for better opportunities. What little respect I had for the "corporate world" dissipated during the 1980s. I found out that there was this thing called pay for performance in the 80's. You got paid for your performance. If you performed well you were paid well. If you were a lay about and didn't do your job you were fired. My pay increased so much during the 80's it was amazing. I can see why you were disillusioned Harry. My "pay" increased from the $50,000 salary I was making in 1976 as a senior account exec at a DC 4A's advertising agency to $155,000 in fees and commissions the next year as an independent marketing consultant. Of course, I had to pay both sides of Social Security taxes that year. I was disillusioned by the "corporate world" in the 1980s when greed became the only driving force behind many corporations. By then, I was 10 years off of steeenking corporate payrolls. Yeah, sure, more Harrylies. |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:14:28 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:23:26 -0800, wrote: The interesting thing is pretty much all of America followed the lead of the Walton kids. Sam sr invented the concept of "Market Driven Quality". Basically don't give the customer more quality than he will pay for. When Gerstner took over IBM he embraced this idea. We threw away our "six sigma" quality hats, stopped emulating Sony and got our MDQ hat http://gfretwell.com/electrical/mdq.jpg Real quality went out the window. We gave the customer what the cheapest one was willing to pay for and being the industry leader, everyone else followed. Now when you call for service, you get a guy in India. Under Gerstner IBM reduced their US staff by about 45% and made a **** load of money. The Walton kids figured out the American public was of the same mind. They would always buy the cheapest product, giving up quality for price and the best place to find those products was China. They had their old Little Rock neighbor (and spouse of a former board member) in the White House to ease any trade restrictions so off they went to China looking for cheap products. The rest is history. WalMart went from an also ran, regional chain store to the biggest retailer in the world in a decade. It really doesn't matter whether you look at retailers, airlines or computer systems, we seem to be giving up quality and service for a cheap price. Buy it cheap, use it up and throw it away. I agree with you, basically. The issue is that cheaper isn't necessarily better when it comes to the public welfare. That's why I don't believe corporations can possibly do the right thing in that regard... at least not without appropriate regulation and oversight. The best regulator is the customer. Really? How's the "consumer" supposed to protect the environment from Big Oil? Not buy their product after the "consumer" is dead from all the pollution. Sam Walton said it best "the customer can fire all of us by taking his money somewhere else" Sure... for products not for gov't. Last I checked he started a company, not a gov't. That is why antitrust is so important, to insure we still have somewhere else to go. That is where the government does have a role. Antitrust isn't enough. You can still have massive public harm without regulation. |
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John H wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:03:22 -0500, wrote: On 1/17/11 7:01 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:20:42 -0500, wrote: Subject: FW: Walmart vs Morons Thought you all just might enjoy this tidbit of info--it is amazing!!!!!!! 1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at WalMart every hour of every day. 2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute! 3. WalMart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year. 4. WalMart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined. 5. WalMart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, and most speak English. 6. WalMart is the largest company in the history of the world. 7. WalMart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years. 8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy. 9. WalMart now sells more food than any other store in the world. 10. WalMart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago. 11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at WalMart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.) 12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a WalMart. You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run WalMart to fix the economy. This should be read and understood by all Americans Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!! To the President and all 535 voting members of the Legislature,both parties. It is now official you are ALL corrupt morons: a.. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is broke. b.. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke. c.. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is broke. d.. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more. e.. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are broke. f.. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right and it is broke. g.. The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure. You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars. AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM ?? YOU THINK YOU CAN RUN THE AUTO INDUSTRY.. THE BANKING SYSTEM?? MAYBE WE OUGHT TO KICK YOUR EGG-HEAD BUDDY BUMS OUT OF OFFICE AND HIRE WALMART TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT ??? WALMART SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS.......WHY DON'T YOU GUYS JUST ADMIT IT'S WAY BEYOND YOUR PAY GRADE, AND QUIT? "You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out." The math doesn't work for the first two lines. WalMart also allows RV to spend the night in their parking lots - at no charge. Of course, since there's nothing to do there but shop, that's what most folks do. WalMart sells a lot of food to RV owners. Mindless right-wing crap...there's no end to it. Believe it or not, Harry, not all RV'ers are right-wingers. Some good friends in our little group are liberal as all hell. Of course, they're also personable and honest. He can't begin to understand how that is possible. |
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TopBassDog wrote:
On Jan 18, 12:23 am, wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:58:01 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:37:51 -0800, wrote: It wasn't always that way. Sam Walton refused to purchase anything that wasn't made in the USA. He's dead and so is his patriotism. The interesting thing is pretty much all of America followed the lead of the Walton kids. Sam sr invented the concept of "Market Driven Quality". Basically don't give the customer more quality than he will pay for. When Gerstner took over IBM he embraced this idea. We threw away our "six sigma" quality hats, stopped emulating Sony and got our MDQ hat http://gfretwell.com/electrical/mdq.jpg Real quality went out the window. We gave the customer what the cheapest one was willing to pay for and being the industry leader, everyone else followed. Now when you call for service, you get a guy in India. Under Gerstner IBM reduced their US staff by about 45% and made a **** load of money. The Walton kids figured out the American public was of the same mind. They would always buy the cheapest product, giving up quality for price and the best place to find those products was China. They had their old Little Rock neighbor (and spouse of a former board member) in the White House to ease any trade restrictions so off they went to China looking for cheap products. The rest is history. WalMart went from an also ran, regional chain store to the biggest retailer in the world in a decade. It really doesn't matter whether you look at retailers, airlines or computer systems, we seem to be giving up quality and service for a cheap price. Buy it cheap, use it up and throw it away. I agree with you, basically. Now, this is a first. Why waste your time with her? She has no real boating interest (yes, I remember the dumb questions) and is only here to debate poorly. |
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On Jan 18, 7:34*am, BAR wrote:
In article , says... The math doesn't work for the first two lines. WalMart also allows RV to spend the night in their parking lots - at no charge. Of course, since there's nothing to do there but shop, that's what most folks do. WalMart sells a lot of food to RV owners. Mindless right-wing crap...there's no end to it. Sounds like pretty good business sense. Need some food Wal-Mart has it. Need some chair to sit out side Wal-Mart has them. Need some new plates and glasses Wal-mart has them. Walmart also has their own house brand chainsaw bar oil for $9.99 a gallon. The little mom 'n pop hardware store down the road had OE name brand Dolomar bar oil for $6.99 a gallon. |
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On Jan 17, 8:59*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:57:28 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. *Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? Tell you what. Why don't you organize a self-sustaining not for profit group that provides all of the goods and services that everyone needs. If your prices are competetive and you provide a good customer experience, the world will beat a path to your door, and the evil "for profit corporations" will be driven out of business. *What's so difficult about that? *By the way, please pay your employees well, provide them with good benefits, and make sure all of your suppliers are in the US. How about we let gov't do what we pay it to do instead of continually praying at the alter of unfettered capitalism. I do pay my employees well, provide health insurance, and I believe most of what we buy is made here. But D'Plume, are, or are you not a *for profit* business? |
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On Jan 18, 8:53*am, Ziggy® wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in ... On Jan 17, 8:59 pm, wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:57:28 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote: Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest." You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry? Tell you what. Why don't you organize a self-sustaining not for profit group that provides all of the goods and services that everyone needs. If your prices are competetive and you provide a good customer experience, the world will beat a path to your door, and the evil "for profit corporations" will be driven out of business. What's so difficult about that? By the way, please pay your employees well, provide them with good benefits, and make sure all of your suppliers are in the US. How about we let gov't do what we pay it to do instead of continually praying at the alter of unfettered capitalism. I do pay my employees well, provide health insurance, and I believe most of what we buy is made here. Now, justify the rest of it . DPlume. that is, if you can. Doesn't her statement remind you of the time a few years ago when Harry was going to expand his "staff" and provide them with extravagant benefits unheard of in small business America. I guess, if you are going to lie, why not lie big time. -- Ziggy® Well, I trust Herr Krause feeds his cats quite well. |
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@mypacks.net says... My "pay" increased from the $50,000 salary I was making in 1976 as a senior account exec at a DC 4A's advertising agency to $155,000 in fees and commissions the next year as an independent marketing consultant. Of course, I had to pay both sides of Social Security taxes that year. I was disillusioned by the "corporate world" in the 1980s when greed became the only driving force behind many corporations. By then, I was 10 years off of steeenking corporate payrolls. Show us your SS statement, the one they send to you that shows your what you will get when you retire. It has a list of your maximum social security income for all of the years you have worked. |
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On 1/19/11 8:01 AM, BAR wrote:
In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... My "pay" increased from the $50,000 salary I was making in 1976 as a senior account exec at a DC 4A's advertising agency to $155,000 in fees and commissions the next year as an independent marketing consultant. Of course, I had to pay both sides of Social Security taxes that year. I was disillusioned by the "corporate world" in the 1980s when greed became the only driving force behind many corporations. By then, I was 10 years off of steeenking corporate payrolls. Show us your SS statement, the one they send to you that shows your what you will get when you retire. It has a list of your maximum social security income for all of the years you have worked. Sure, Bertie, I'm going to produce documents for your reading pleasure, right after I put you in my will. I will tell you I've had about 35 years paying the maximum FICA contribution. If memory still serves me, I could have been receiving a SS check last year of $2300 and change. Hey, it's not my fault you are an underachiever, and I earned more in the late 1970's than you earn today. Had you gone to college instead of joining the marines, you might be doing better, too. |
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@mypacks.net says... On 1/19/11 8:01 AM, BAR wrote: In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... My "pay" increased from the $50,000 salary I was making in 1976 as a senior account exec at a DC 4A's advertising agency to $155,000 in fees and commissions the next year as an independent marketing consultant. Of course, I had to pay both sides of Social Security taxes that year. I was disillusioned by the "corporate world" in the 1980s when greed became the only driving force behind many corporations. By then, I was 10 years off of steeenking corporate payrolls. Show us your SS statement, the one they send to you that shows your what you will get when you retire. It has a list of your maximum social security income for all of the years you have worked. Sure, Bertie, I'm going to produce documents for your reading pleasure, right after I put you in my will. I will tell you I've had about 35 years paying the maximum FICA contribution. If memory still serves me, I could have been receiving a SS check last year of $2300 and change. Hey, it's not my fault you are an underachiever, and I earned more in the late 1970's than you earn today. Had you gone to college instead of joining the marines, you might be doing better, too. As usual, can't prove one of his lies, what does he do? That's right folks, call names and insult. It's the way to deflect of children everywhere! |
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